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[[Image:Goldfinger dvd.jpg|thumb|none|300px|DVD cover for ''Goldfinger'']] | |||
Is it just me, or is that the most ill conceived shoulder holster ever? | Is it just me, or is that the most ill conceived shoulder holster ever? | ||
==Can anyone identify | There is a fella from Prescott Arizona selling a copy of that holster. Looks comfortable to me. | ||
==Can anyone identify thie weapons?== | |||
What type of weapon was used to launch a grappling hook in the pre credits sequence? | |||
* Is it possibly a jazzed up [[Palmer Cap-Chur Short Range Projector]]?[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 17:27, 17 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
::It looks accurate, see no reason why it's not. -[[User:SeptemberJack|SeptemberJack]] ([[User talk:SeptemberJack|talk]]) 19:06, 17 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
[[File:Goldfingerpiton.jpg]] | [[File:Goldfingerpiton.jpg]] | ||
Sold for £5,750/US$9,683 17 September 1998 auction in London by Christies.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 17:35, 11 December 2013 (EST) | Sold for £5,750/US$9,683 17 September 1998 auction in London by Christies.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 17:35, 11 December 2013 (EST) | ||
==Aston Martin's machine guns== | ==Aston Martin's machine guns== | ||
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Geoffrey Boothroyd's book The Handgun pictures a number of "Bond guns", including one identified as, "A considerably modified Smith and Wesson (sic) Military and Police Model which appeared on the dust jacket of Ian Fleming's From Russia with Love." The pictured gun has the same style of grips, round-butt magna with S&W medallion, as shown in the still from the Guns of Bond short. The gun pictured in the book has a barrel shortened to the length of the ejector rod, jeweled hammer and trigger, and "Fitz Special" style cut-away trigger guard. | Geoffrey Boothroyd's book The Handgun pictures a number of "Bond guns", including one identified as, "A considerably modified Smith and Wesson (sic) Military and Police Model which appeared on the dust jacket of Ian Fleming's From Russia with Love." The pictured gun has the same style of grips, round-butt magna with S&W medallion, as shown in the still from the Guns of Bond short. The gun pictured in the book has a barrel shortened to the length of the ejector rod, jeweled hammer and trigger, and "Fitz Special" style cut-away trigger guard. | ||
The holster is a Berns-Martin Triple Draw. | |||
== Testing a bullet-resistant vest == | == Testing a bullet-resistant vest == | ||
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It is a film-fallacy that bullet-resistant vests are tested by firing a full submachine gun burst at a person modeling the vest, but if you watch this scene again, the testers also check the vest-wearer's trousers for bullet holes. | It is a film-fallacy that bullet-resistant vests are tested by firing a full submachine gun burst at a person modeling the vest, but if you watch this scene again, the testers also check the vest-wearer's trousers for bullet holes. | ||
I would think if someone hit by a bullet or even a fragment, | I would think if someone hit by a bullet or even a fragment, he would know right away! | ||
i am pretty sure the test subject would clarify if there was any misses to his legs --[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] ([[User talk:Seekerdude|talk]]) 11:02, 8 December 2014 (EST) | |||
== North Koreans? == | |||
Goldfingers men were North Korean right? In my latest entry in the article I wrote so, but I did it automatically. I've always assumed they were NK. In retrospect I cant recall if and when Goldfinger says the troops are NK. Did I just imagine this? [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 11:42, 20 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
:I thought they were Red Chinese. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:47, 20 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
::Wonder where the heck I got Korean from..I better go re watch the movie. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 11:59, 20 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
::Nevermind, it just hit me: Goldfinger comments at the golf club with regards to his butler "Oddjob": "Golf is not yet the national game of Korea". Of course that only proves Oddjob is Korean, not Goldfingers soldiers. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 12:02, 20 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::Mr Ling (Burt Kwouk) is also described by Bond as "The Red Chinese agent at the factory" so they too have a part in this. Also, I'm pretty sure at least some of the troops speak Korean and some speak Chinese throughout the movie. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 13:37, 20 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
* In 1964 it was a major thing that Red China finally had the Atom Bomb after all the pundits saying 'Red China will have the Bomb in 5 years' from the mid 50s. Finally they had it. As I recall the film called Goldfinger's army 'Korean' without saying North or South. In the rec/gas rooom one of the Mafiosi mentions for his share of the million he smuggled those men in.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 17:40, 22 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
== cant update pic == | |||
For whatever reason I get a "Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/0/00". " error message when I try to update the pic. I've tried renaming my source pic, and even taken new pics at different timeslots but still get the above message. All the other pics I changed showed no such error. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 13:08, 20 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:Goldf-sw45c.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bond sits down after displaying his knowledge of firearms]] | |||
:The server does that on occasion. Just upload under a different name. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:05, 20 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
::Well yeah, but like I said I've tried several different names already. I'll try again tomorrow. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 14:52, 20 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::Try removing all numbers from the filename. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 19:06, 21 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
::::Just tried it, still the same error message. I'm no webmaster or programmer, but for the life of me I cannot figure out what the problem is. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 14:20, 22 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::::Forget about updating, just upload as a new image. Images with that error are stuck, you can't even delete them. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:38, 22 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
::::::Roger that! [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 14:38, 22 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Aston Martin MG's == | |||
After rewatching the movie I think I've discovered something. The Aston Martin MG looks like a MP40 with the hooded sight removed. I'd like a second opinion though. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 13:37, 31 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
[http://www.atlanticwallblanks.com/assets/images/MUZZLE%20NUT.jpg MP40 muzzle nut] | |||
[[Image:Goldf-aston1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Bond fires his Aston Martin machine guns.]] | |||
Latest revision as of 17:37, 31 July 2018
Is it just me, or is that the most ill conceived shoulder holster ever?
There is a fella from Prescott Arizona selling a copy of that holster. Looks comfortable to me.
Can anyone identify thie weapons?
What type of weapon was used to launch a grappling hook in the pre credits sequence?
- Is it possibly a jazzed up Palmer Cap-Chur Short Range Projector?Foofbun (talk) 17:27, 17 March 2017 (EDT)
- It looks accurate, see no reason why it's not. -SeptemberJack (talk) 19:06, 17 March 2017 (EDT)
Sold for £5,750/US$9,683 17 September 1998 auction in London by Christies.Foofbun (talk) 17:35, 11 December 2013 (EST)
Aston Martin's machine guns
If anyone is interested, according to several books on Bond (including "The History of James Bond") the machine guns used by the Aston are (meant to be) modified Browning .30 Cals. Different books list them as either cut-down water cooled .30's or the air cooled M1919A3s. In actual fact, IRL the guns in the film are gas powered blanks.
- I have one of these books, and the big problem with the depiction is that the artwork depicts the guns as extremely small (almost SMG size) to let them fit in the required space.
Derringer?
It looks like there's a Derringer at the bottom of the left column, under the 1908 Vest Pocket. Maxman (talk) 03:06 20 October 2013 (EST)
- Yes, it is. Most likely a Remington 1866 Derringer. Greg-Z (talk) 03:24, 20 October 2013 (EDT)
Note: The gentleman in the photo is Bond Stuntman George LeechFoofbun (talk) 17:36, 11 December 2013 (EST)
Unidentified revolver in Boothroyd's shoulder holster
Geoffrey Boothroyd's book The Handgun pictures a number of "Bond guns", including one identified as, "A considerably modified Smith and Wesson (sic) Military and Police Model which appeared on the dust jacket of Ian Fleming's From Russia with Love." The pictured gun has the same style of grips, round-butt magna with S&W medallion, as shown in the still from the Guns of Bond short. The gun pictured in the book has a barrel shortened to the length of the ejector rod, jeweled hammer and trigger, and "Fitz Special" style cut-away trigger guard.
The holster is a Berns-Martin Triple Draw.
Testing a bullet-resistant vest
It is a film-fallacy that bullet-resistant vests are tested by firing a full submachine gun burst at a person modeling the vest, but if you watch this scene again, the testers also check the vest-wearer's trousers for bullet holes.
I would think if someone hit by a bullet or even a fragment, he would know right away!
i am pretty sure the test subject would clarify if there was any misses to his legs --Seekerdude (talk) 11:02, 8 December 2014 (EST)
North Koreans?
Goldfingers men were North Korean right? In my latest entry in the article I wrote so, but I did it automatically. I've always assumed they were NK. In retrospect I cant recall if and when Goldfinger says the troops are NK. Did I just imagine this? Dudester32 (talk) 11:42, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
- I thought they were Red Chinese. --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:47, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
- Wonder where the heck I got Korean from..I better go re watch the movie. Dudester32 (talk) 11:59, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
- Nevermind, it just hit me: Goldfinger comments at the golf club with regards to his butler "Oddjob": "Golf is not yet the national game of Korea". Of course that only proves Oddjob is Korean, not Goldfingers soldiers. Dudester32 (talk) 12:02, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
- Mr Ling (Burt Kwouk) is also described by Bond as "The Red Chinese agent at the factory" so they too have a part in this. Also, I'm pretty sure at least some of the troops speak Korean and some speak Chinese throughout the movie. Dudester32 (talk) 13:37, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
- In 1964 it was a major thing that Red China finally had the Atom Bomb after all the pundits saying 'Red China will have the Bomb in 5 years' from the mid 50s. Finally they had it. As I recall the film called Goldfinger's army 'Korean' without saying North or South. In the rec/gas rooom one of the Mafiosi mentions for his share of the million he smuggled those men in.Foofbun (talk) 17:40, 22 June 2016 (EDT)
cant update pic
For whatever reason I get a "Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/0/00". " error message when I try to update the pic. I've tried renaming my source pic, and even taken new pics at different timeslots but still get the above message. All the other pics I changed showed no such error. Dudester32 (talk) 13:08, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
- The server does that on occasion. Just upload under a different name. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:05, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
- Well yeah, but like I said I've tried several different names already. I'll try again tomorrow. Dudester32 (talk) 14:52, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
- Try removing all numbers from the filename. Evil Tim (talk) 19:06, 21 June 2016 (EDT)
- Just tried it, still the same error message. I'm no webmaster or programmer, but for the life of me I cannot figure out what the problem is. Dudester32 (talk) 14:20, 22 June 2016 (EDT)
- Forget about updating, just upload as a new image. Images with that error are stuck, you can't even delete them. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:38, 22 June 2016 (EDT)
- Roger that! Dudester32 (talk) 14:38, 22 June 2016 (EDT)
- Forget about updating, just upload as a new image. Images with that error are stuck, you can't even delete them. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:38, 22 June 2016 (EDT)
- Just tried it, still the same error message. I'm no webmaster or programmer, but for the life of me I cannot figure out what the problem is. Dudester32 (talk) 14:20, 22 June 2016 (EDT)
- Try removing all numbers from the filename. Evil Tim (talk) 19:06, 21 June 2016 (EDT)
- Well yeah, but like I said I've tried several different names already. I'll try again tomorrow. Dudester32 (talk) 14:52, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
Aston Martin MG's
After rewatching the movie I think I've discovered something. The Aston Martin MG looks like a MP40 with the hooded sight removed. I'd like a second opinion though. Dudester32 (talk) 13:37, 31 July 2018 (EDT)
