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Talk:The Guns of Navarone
Mk. 1* Sten
I see someones removed the Sten Mk.1* and the screencaps. Its pretty obvious that for any scenes where the commando's don't fire their weapons they carry the Mk.1*, substituting the prop gun for the action scenes.--The Mercenary 13:19, 24 April 2012 (CDT)
- I was the one who got rid of the Mk I* section and changed it to Mk II when I split up the Sten page and sorted out all the pages for the correct Mark. However, there were never any extra screen shots, those are the only two that were ever on the page. I could only go by the screenshots that were on the page as I don't have the film, and they most closely resemble the Mk II with the barrel cut down as the heatshield on a Mk I* is much longer than on the gun shown. If you have any other screecaps to show that the weapons change to Mk I* Stens for non firing scenes feel free to add them. --commando552 13:39, 24 April 2012 (CDT)
Mauser M1934 or Beretta M1934?
There was only one suppressed pistol used by both Spyros Pappadimos and Keith Mallory, Mallory obtains it from Maria Pappadimos after she shoots the traitor Anna and its this pistol he uses in the fortress. As far as i can tell there were no Beretta's in the film only a Mauser which may have been the only Mauser on set. This could be confirmed in the scene when the SS Captain tortures Franklin he uses an Artillery Luger and not a pistol carried by Mallory's team.--The Mercenary 23:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- There is more than one Mauser. The one Mallory almost uses to shoot Anna is a different one from the suppressed one used by Spyros and given to Maria. They both have their weapons out in the same scene so it can't be the same gun, unless some very clever editing was employed. - Kooshmeister
- Ive just watched the film again and theres definately no Beretta in it. Yes Mallory points a Mauser at Anna, but he take Spyro's pistol off Maria after she shoots Anna, so why would he remove a suppressor thats been made for Spyro' gun and attach it to Muesel's? Mallory uses Spyro's gun to kill the two guards at the fort. Also after carefully watching the earlier scenes, it seems that Spyro is attaching a suppressor to a Beretta Bobcat or even a Beretta Jetfire pistol, the suppressor is screwed right onto the pistol as far as the trigger guard. Can anyone screencap these scenes to allow a more accurate impression?--The Mercenary 21:45, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
You can get a good look at Muesel's pistol at the wedding scene when he holds it directly over their table, and it looks like it has a longer barrel than normal - adapted for fitting a silencer? Now a regular German officer wouldn't have a silencer-adapted pistol, so have they just mixed up regular and adapted pistols between scenes? IKD 9 Oct 2010
Mosin 91/30? I'm not sure Andrea's rifle is this. When he changes position among the rocks on the hill (he holds it with his right hand around the action) you can glimpse a pistol grip on the stock, and the butt actually looks very nice. The scope also looks a bit too long. IKD 9 OCt 2010
Spyro's Gun - when they are captured at the wedding, Spyro pulls out a pistol but is stopped by Miller (David Niven), who puts his hand over Spyro's. I think this might be a .32" Webley automatic from the exposed barrel, shape of the slide and ejector port and trigger guard. Any ideas? IKD 9 Oct 2010
I can't upload pics so I've stuck some on photobucket instead - maybe someone can copy them? There should be: 3 assorted glimpses of Stavros' rifle - if that's a Mosin-Nagant (I don't think it is) then it has been sporterized; 2 Bren related shots - Spyro loading a magazine, and then using the uncovered Bren to finish off a sailor when Brown freezes; Muesel's (non-standard?) Mauser 1934; Spyro's pistol (.32" Webley?); Brown holding a guard at gunpoint - but with the slide clearly locked back! [1] IKD 10 Feb 2011
More Guns
Had these in my hard drive and figured I'd better upload them. I'll try and get a screenshot of the Bren used on the boat soon. - Kooshmeister
German Patrol Boat Gun
The German patrol boat is armed with a large gun.
It looks like a Oerlikon 20mm Cannon. --funkychinaman 12:26, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- - I agree with FCM. StanTheMan 01:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Mk 1 Sten revisited
After going through the movie and taking a few screens I'm convinced there were never any real Mk II in the movie (besides Marias Mk.IIs). As far as I can see all the actors (minus Maria and Anna) use Mk.I and switch to propguns that ressemble Mk.II's. These propguns fire only flame: There is no cycle, no brass ejection or even minimal of recoil. As an example: Check out these two screens from the same scene. (zoom in and check out the left-most gun in the two scenes)
Based on this I've reinserted the Mk.I entry. Dudster32 10:03, 1 June 2012 (CDT)