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==Type 84 Target/Match== | |||
So you finally got to take pictures of them. Nice! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 01:19, 25 December 2008
Most of my uploaded firearms pics were photographed by me and thus offered for use by IMFDB with my permission.
BTW: Please IDENTIFY yourself when you leave a message. I shouldn't have to sleuth your identity through the Wiki/History page to figure out who asked what. ;) Thanks.
YES!
Thank you SO much! Those look great, and actually, they look very close to the ones that have appeared in quite a few movies. We can start replacing the two-tone SIG pics that we have on our other pages with these immediately! Again, I greatly appreciate you doing this for me. How will I ever repay you?
Out of curiosity, since you told me that they usually don't fit, how did you make them work together? -MT2008
Re: MP5A5
Huh, that's interesting. I always figured Stembridge would have mostly -90 series guns that looked just like those "MP5s" that appear in so many productions they've rented to. Any idea why those HK94s were never converted further to make them look like more realistic MP5s? As my Air Force One page shows, Stembridge basically left those guns as-is well into the 1990s.
Thanks for the MP5A5 picture...I was actually close to replacing it myself (albeit with something from a Google image search). And yes, I'm sure more people than me appreciate them! At least, I hope so. You're pretty much the most important person we've got when it comes to gun images. I mean, how many sites out there get to have pictures of the same prop weapons used in many films?
Thanks for the new pictures
You've uploaded a lot of good pictures recently...I especially like the S&W 4506 and the SIG P220 Sport (is that the one from Cinema Weaponry that's appeared in several movies?) I thought of taking a picture of my own personal 4506 for a while, but gave up because I knew I couldn't take one as good as what you could do. -MT2008
One other thing...
I know I keep asking for stuff from you lately, but this time it's talk only.
I just finished working on the Air Force One page for this site. That movie features some type of short-barreled AK which looks just like the one from True Lies. Here's a picture:
The next time you talk to Harry Lu, would you mind asking him what these guns are and who owns them (Stembridge?) Thanks! -MT2008
Re:
The new pictures are really cool, as usual. I especially love the M16A1 with A2 handguards picture, because there are a lot of Hollywood movies featuring guns with that config, and it's great that we now have a picture to prove to our visitors how you sneaky armorers have deceived so many of us common folk action movie fans with those fake M16A2s! Haha, just kidding. Anyway, how did you get your hands on a Diemaco? Remember Al Vrkljan, the Canadian armorer who helped me out on The Incredible Hulk (2008)? He told me that Diemaco/Colt Canada wouldn't sell any of their guns to his company or any civilian companies, so where did it come from?
Also, you brought up an interesting point on the American Gun (2006) page...as an armorer who works in the film industry, how do you feel about the anti-gun attitudes that seem so prevalent in Hollywood? Does it ever frustrate you and make you not want to rent your guns out to people who are so overtly anti-RKBA? I've always wondered how armorers feel about the people they work with.
Appreciate the effort on the Type 84 and two-tone P226 pics. Whenever you get a chance!
What do you think...
...of the article on the Colt Flare Launcher? -MT2008
- Trust me, I'm not offended. I respect and share your commitment to ensuring accuracy on this site, especially since you're obviously far more qualified to talk about guns in film (and guns in general) than I will ever be. -MT2008
Oh, yes, and one other request...
I have another request, this one a bit more unusual. I recently did a page for 2 Fast 2 Furious, which features a two-tone SIG P226 of West German manufacture that has a stainless frame and a regular black slide and barrel. It looks like the armorer just combined two existing guns to make it (since the two-tone P226s usually have black frame and stainless slide), and I'd love to have a picture of something identical for my page. So if you ever get out those two P226s that you photographed for IMFDB back in June, do you mind combining this:
..and this...
...to make this?
...and then taking a picture of it for me? Also, if you put the slide and barrel from the stainless P226 on the frame of the black P226, you'd have a gun identical to the one from Face/Off which we could use for that page.
- Now THAT is news to me. I'm really surprised...finishes really make the fit of the parts THAT difficult? Wow. I don't think the gun above is a factory job because the two-tone P226s that SIG has sold are always black frame and stainless slide, not the other way around. Do you by chance know who supplied the weapons for 2 Fast 2 Furious?
- Thanks for the info, as always.
Re: Back for a bit
I do think you're right and that there are some SKS rifles in Platoon (which may or may not be Chinese Type 56 copies, for all I know). I own that movie on DVD, so as soon as I get back to my place, I'm gonna have to pop it in my laptop and watch again to be sure. Also, thanks for backing me up on the CAR-15 variants in the film - I was pretty sure they were 653s, and I know that particular model was exported in large numbers to U.S. allies during the 1970s (if you ever check out any Arab-Israeli war photos from the news, even today, you'll see many IDF personnel using them).
I was also suspicious of the "MAC-9" page, because I have never heard of that variant. On the other hand, I had no idea that the 9mm variant of the MAC-10 was called the "MAC-10/9"; I've usually just heard it referred to as a MAC-10. I figure "MAC-9" was just somebody butchering the spelling of "M11/9", which has appeared in lots of movies (I made the entry for that gun under the MAC-10 page myself, though someone else put down - inaccurately - that it was used in Blue Streak).
Sorry to hear Josh Brolin broke a gun...indeed, how DO you bend a trigger guard? Then again, he's had some issues with the law lately, so maybe it's not too surprising. What film is he working on that required him to carry a Police Chief Special, anyway? Some period piece, I take it? I don't know how frustrating it is to be an armorer, but I can imagine...I mean, if you've rented out dozens of guns to one production, doesn't that make you lose your nerve to think how much those guns must be getting tossed around, even with armorers on-set to supervise their use? Also, remember when you sent me that picture of guns to ID from your vault? How many did I get right?
That's cool if you can get a picture of a Chinese Tokarev. Later. -MT2008
Tokarev
MP2008,
Nice to see you're back on the site! Hope you've seen some of GunMaster45's recent work (especially on Heartbreak Ridge and Platoon.
Anyway, I'm curious...do you by chance have a Chinese Type 54 copy of a Tokarev in your company's inventory? I ask only because I've seen those in quite a few movies, and I figure we should have a picture of one for this site. Also, I thought that only Chinese Tokarevs have the frame-mounted safety? I have little experience with them, but I thought I remembered reading that...please educate me if I'm wrong!
Re: A pic and an update
Good lord, is that what Heaven on Earth looks like? I can see (from left to right), an AR with a triangular forearm (M16A1 or AR15 SP1, I can't tell, but the selector appears to be on semi!), an FN MAG, an MP5A2 with slim forearm, a shorty AR with a 10" barrel, an AKM variant, an FN Minimi, a G36E, two AR carbines with what appear to be 14.5"+ barrels, what I believe to be an MG3 and an MG42, and then a PK or PKM. Behind the MG3, I see the barrel shroud of what might be an M1919, but I can't tell for sure. All I know is that I seriously hope my own safe looks like that...some day (as it stands, my GSA-imported Chinese AK is the only "evil"-looking gun I own).
As far as changing the pages...totally fine. I never intended to leave our conversations on there permanently...only long enough to make sure that the guns were properly identified. Of course, I'm quickly learning that you're usually right!
Sorry you've got so many guns to clean...I've heard stories about the way that blanks wear guns in comparison to live rounds, so I know how busy you must be! As far as replacement parts go, please replace that slim forearm on the MP5 (which I see has a tag). I've always found those slim forearms on ANY H&K long gun to be annoying because I can't get a comfortable grip on them; they're just way too narrow (and this is coming from a guy with pretty small hands!) I imagine anyone who has to fire hundreds of rounds out of that gun (until the director gets a satisfying take of an action scene) would also start to hate it.
Haha...thanks for the vault picture. Talk to you later. -MT2008
Long-barreled AK under-folder
Here is the gun from The X-Files I mentioned to you. Found these on a fan site for the show. They're not great quality, but you can see it pretty well:
It's clearly an under-folder, it has a long barrel, but it also has what appears to be a .223 mag. And it seems to have a hooded front sight in the first pic. Any idea what this might be? It's appeared in several episodes of the show from a couple of seasons, and I always thought it was a Type 84 under-folder fitted with the barrel from an RPK clone. -MT2008
- Mike Sudrow is listed on IMDB as having worked on a few episodes of The X-Files. Since the show lasted so long (nine years), I imagine they probably had many, many different armorers depending on the season/filming location.
- As far as Canadian armorers go, Al Vrkljan of Movie Armaments Group was on here a couple months ago. He corrected me on the Incredible Hulk page by telling me that, interestingly enough, Diemaco/Colt Canada won't sell its weapons to film armorers in Canada! He also told me more about those mystery grenade launchers we were discussing earlier, plus he updated the page with more guns that I had missed. I really hope he comes back; he said he might be able to get some pictures of the launchers for us.
- No worries on the Heat stuff, although I think you actually mean Gunmaster45, not me. As far as buying handguns go, I have yet to even try it in my home state (NC) because I live in Orange County and you have to get three "references" (people who are county residents) to apply for a purchase permit at the sheriff's dept. Sadly, Chapel Hill is full of overly-liberal people whom I wouldn't be comfortable asking to sign my permit application, so I've never bought a pistol here even though I'm of age - I've just inherited pistols from my grandfather. Ah, well, maybe if I wind up re-locating to Texas for this new job, I can finally buy that SIG P226 I've always wanted... -MT2008
Re:Re:Sahara
Thanks for going so far out of your way to get the photo of the Type 84 with the AKM-style sight...I realize it must have been a hassle! However, I wasn't saying they put an AKM sight on a Type 84; I simply thought the front sight itself indicated the gun was a Type 84 because my eyes suck and it looked hooded to me from that perspective.
As far as the source goes, I believe Crowntower Limited supplied the weapons that were used in Sahara. I say that based on a couple of deductions: Sascha Robey was one of the armorers who worked on Casino Royale as well as Sahara, Crowntower is listed in the credits of Casino Royale (but not Sahara) as the weapons supplier, and finally, if you look at our Casino Royale page, the AKs in that film top look identical to the one in Sahara that we were talking about. Perhaps this Sascha Robey rented the same guns for two films.
Re:Sahara
A lot of what you've said makes sense...BUT, there's still something bugging me about the third screenshot. Either my eyes really suck, or that is still a Norinco-style sight in that shot. HOWEVER, the first screenshot does, admittedly, show what appears to be a standard AKM-style front sight. Compare:
I'm also confused because I have seen Type 84s fitted with mags that LOOK like the Romak mags, even if they aren't, like the one in the picture I posted. Anyway, is it possible that they used two different weapons for this "hero" gun use, and one was a Romak (or whatever) and the other was a Type 84 re-styled to look more like the Romak?
BTW, I didn't correct that typo; Gunmaster45 did. -MT2008
Oh, yeah, and the screens are really cool. As far as people's sudden interest in ignored pages, I guess it has to do with the fact that once they see somebody's worked on it in the "Recent Changes" section, they glance at it, and then they're more likely to spot mistakes they didn't see before.
- OK, you know what? My eyes do suck! I just stood way, way back from my monitor and squinted, and now I see that it's not a hooded Norinco sight; it's just the angle makes it appear circular. You are right; it can't be a Type 84, or anything that uses Type 84 parts. And I'm guessing that also means I could be wrong about the Casino Royale AKs, too.
- It's kinda strange, though...I wouldn't have figured British armorers would use civilian AK variants that were essentially geared towards the U.S. firearms market.
I, Robot SMG
Excellent, I'm glad to see you found the scene in I, Robot where it shows a close-up of the SMG's receiver and the Spectre's safety is visible. I was beginning to think my memory had failed me and that I was wrong...but I remember seeing this movie in the theater, on the big screen, and seeing that exact same image in your screenshot. Immediately, I thought to myself, "Spectre M4!" Actually, only a few months before the movie came out, I was at a gun show where one of the dealers had the semi-auto carbine version on his table...probably how I recognized it so quickly!
BTW, I believe the trigger and pistol grip are one unit on the Spectre. It looks to me like the armorers who worked on I, Robot just removed it and added that PSG1-style grip, but never bothered to put on a replacement trigger guard. - MT2008
M70
Hi,
Do you think we should really have a separate page for the Zastava M70, instead of just putting it under the AK-47 page, as we did for the Type 56? - MT2008
- I see your point. However, my personal criteria is that we should keep all conventional 7.62x39mm AK-type assault rifles on one page. Although the M70 series are by no means straightforward AK-47/AKM copies (due to the ladder sight and the mix of stamped receiver with traditional AK layout, like on the Type 56), they are still basically pretty conventional rifles, as opposed to say, the Norinco Type 86 or the Saiga and Vepr series. I feel it'd probably be better to keep the M70 on the AK-47 page, especially since I haven't seen any movies yet that feature weapons like the M76 or M77. This is, of course, sort of a gray area and one of the biggest problems with this site, IMO.
- Also, I feel compelled to point out...there's an episode in Ultimate Force where "Russian" soldiers are actually seen using M70Bs and Type 56s, which is of course ridiculously inaccurate (the episode takes place in the present-day Chechen conflict).
RE: RE: Studio Weapons
You more than answered the question, thank you. I have seen some pictures of places that do the rentals and, frankly, privately list them as places I would most want to work. "No we don't have a .50 cal minigun on the shelves but I can check in the back." Once again thanks for the info and for the earlier compliments. Incidentally, I am working on a new one..."Farewell to the King" (1989)..should have it ready in a few days.
Do studios still keep their own "arsenals"? I was given the impression that most, if not all, firearms for movies were in the private sector.
RE: Images
No skin off of my nose what images you use mate. Fact of the matter is, when you boil it down, pretty much all the images we are using on here are not "legal". So which ones you use, from whatever site are ok with me. Frankly, as far as I go, I try to only use images which do not have another web site's watermark on them.
RE:
First of all, cheers for the update on the Type 84 picture. There's no hurry; I understand if it takes a while to get the appropriate mags (since obviously, a Type 84 doesn't look very different from a Type 56 without them).
Second, while I don't speak for everyone on here, I can say that I personally do not have any problem with you replacing pictures of guns on this site (even those that I uploaded) with any that you took. Nor do I see why anyone else would. The only reason I can imagine anyone getting offended would be if they went to the same effort you do to get the guns and photograph them on their own. But pretty much everyone else on here just uploads pictures they copied from other gun sites, in some cases airsoft web sites (like that picture we used to have of the SP89, which was just an airsoft MP5K fitted with an SP89 handguard from DenTrinity; terrible!). And it doesn't take much time or effort to copy and upload someone else's work.
Additionally, your gun photos are obviously of superior quality to anything else on here, and they're of guns that have actually appeared in movies (possibly the same movies as the pages they're on), so as far as I am concerned, there really isn't any reason why we can't replace any existing photos of guns with the ones you've taken. In fact, I would encourage you to not be so timid in the future when it comes to replacing photos. If you want an example of what I mean by this, take a look at the Armalite AR-18 page. Your AR-18 picture is way better than any of those on the page, so I don't see any reason why you can't just remove some of the others (maybe keep ONE of the other photos of the gun with the scope, and even that could be replaced if you took an equivalent picture).
One thing I will point out, though: I have sometimes used pictures on my pages that are from the web site of Rick Washburn's company Weapons Specialists, Inc. (http://www.weaponspecialists.com/index.php). They provided the guns for I Am Legend, so the page for that movie now features pictures of the guns used in the film that I copied and uploaded from them (including the tan-framed Mark 23). In cases like that, I'd prefer those particular photos stay up (you'll know them because I always provide links and info mentioning where they're from) because they feature the actual movie guns, and they're decent quality. Besides that, I don't have any problem with you replacing any and all photos of guns on this site with yours.
Chinese Type 56
First of all, I GREATLY appreciate the photo you took of one of the Goldeneye AKs for me. I didn't know you had access to any British armories?
However, I have one question: Do you think it's really appropriate to classify the Chinese Type 56 rifles with stamped receivers as "AK-47" and "AKS-47" clones, as opposed to AKM/AKMS derivatives? I realize that the Type 56s with stamped receivers lack just about all of the other features of the AKMs (including the muzzle break, ribbed receiver cover, rate reducer, grip rails, narrower front sight, etc.), but I've usually heard them described as AKM copies simply to distinguish them from the earlier milled-receiver versions. I know this is an over-simplification of sorts because the Type 56s aren't really orthodox AK-47s or AKMs (they're more like a weird hybrid version), but I figured it would be more appropriate.
- Well, I would say I know the differences between the two. I must point out that I own a Chinese AK (mine was imported by Golden State Arms and simply has 'AK47S 7.62x39mm - Made in China' stamped on the receiver). I was simply curious whether the presence of a stamped receiver on the Type 56 made it worthy of being designated an AKM variant or not.
- Personally, I think the best bet might be to literally just create a new sub-entry for the Type 56 under the AK-47 page and then we can focus on finding any and all movies that feature the Type 56 and putting them under there. This would reflect best the fact that the Type 56 is sort of a weird hybrid AK-47/AKM with distinctly Chinese characteristics (such as the hooded front sight), which most other AK derivatives (like the Maadis) don't have.
- Haha, no offense taken, just wanted you to know I'm not a complete newbie when it comes to AKs, though obviously you completely blow me out of the water. Anyway, I would definitely appreciate the Type 84 pic whenever you get a chance. Not sure if there's anything else I need at the moment...but I would strongly encourage you to just take pictures of whatever you can get your hands on. As I've said, it's really great that we have you because this site is full of pictures that are copied from sites like world.guns.ru or (in some cases) AIRSOFT websites (i.e. the SP89 picture that we used to have before I replaced it).
- BTW, these are some incredible pics you've gotten us lately, moreso than usual. How on earth did you get that Romanian AIMS from "44 Minutes"? Do you know Thell Reed, too? Also, I'm going to do a LITTLE bit of additional work on the Type 56 entry, and I think I'm also gonna ditch the AKS-47 one for now (simply because there don't seem to be any movies I'm aware of that have actual milled-receiver Russian AKS-47s or close copies) and move all the Type 56-1 entires down. If you disagree, you can revert (or partially modify) the edits and I won't mind. Also, good work on the RPG-7 article getting the Type 69 mentioned (it's something I wanted to do myself - mostly because "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" also has a Type 69).
Re: Editing Dogs of War
Thanks for the info. I've seen those guns in a whole bunch of movies and I always wondered what they were, who made them, and why. I think they've also appeared in a couple episodes of The A-Team and a Chuck Norris movie or two.
I have some great screenshots of the fake Uzis which I took for my Raw Deal page (I've been meaning to work on it for ages, but so far, I just never have managed to get around to it). Here they are:
Re: image
Sorry for the mixup. Feel free to replace the image with a better one if you have one handy. It's good to have a professional armourer on the site to help out, you've been doing some good work so far. Orca1 9904 10:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904
Contact?
I was wondering, is there any way we could chat off-site? I'd enjoy the opportunity to talk with you about your work as an armourer and about some various weapons and films. My contact info can be found on my user page. I hope to hear from you soon, and wish you well. Orca1 9904 22:43, 9 June 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904
Red Dawn
OK, I was simply confused because I thought you were saying that the Egyptians didn't call the full-auto version they made for their armed forces the Misr, which would contradict almost every book and web site on AKs I've read. You obviously know far, FAR more than I do, so I think it's perfectly fine if you want to edit the page to refer to the guns as Maadi ARMs. Perhaps it might also be reasonable to put in a note that the ARM is the semi-automatic version of the Misr or something? Also, please post the picture of the "Red Dawn" AKM you took.
Appreciate your contributions, and (especially) your photographs. It's really cool that we have somebody like you on here. Do you by chance have any pictures of the Norinco/Poly Tech AKs that the rental armories purchased in the 80s? A long, LONG time ago, somebody put one of them up for sale on GunBroker; I wish I had saved the picture. I'm also curious to know if you have pics of the Norinco Type 84...I've been trying to get a good one to add to the Casino Royale page and my Harsh Realm page for a while now.
- Wow, thanks! Yeah, I'd prefer the basic fixed-stock configuration since the ones in Casino Royale and Harsh Realm seem to have that (except the wood on the CR guns looks like it can't be factory), but I wouldn't encourage you to go TOO far out of your way, as I recognize you must be really busy.
- Which armory is it that you have access to?
Re: My two cents on the Hulk Launchers
Yeah, I think you're probably right...it looks to me that the armorers were shooting for an M32 look but couldn't get the real deal, so they took civilian launchers (most likely DefTech) and modified them heavily. I notice that there seem to be a lot of 37mm launchers which are depicted as HE grenade launchers in movies (i.e. Colt 37mm Flare Launchers substituting for M203s). I guess this is another case of the same deal.
Sure, you can re-post the CZ99 pic. It isn't "mine"; I took it from world.guns.ru, which is where many of the photographs of guns on this site come from (as you can imagine, that's why I'm happy to have someone like you who is willing to give us original photos, especially when they're of actual movie guns).
Thanks
The Dogs of War was one of my first "efforts" here. I knew, already, that you saw a guy running around with a MAC-10 during the weapons training phase but did not know there was one of those cheesy ass "fake" Uzis. Oh, the same goes for the Car-15s.
Incidentally, I forget what movie I saw it in but there was a fake Uzi in it and the foregrip on it was rotated so that the front sight was actually pointed downward!!!
Hey
Hey MoviePropMaster, I'm Alienqueen11, and I seen the images you have uploaded, and they're great. I also want to know if you can do me a favor, if you can upload a picture of a Remington 870 with Ghost Ring Sights and a High Capacity Tube like the one in the screenshot below for the Dawn of the Dead (2004) page, I would greatly appreciate it, and great work so far.
Thanks
Thanks for complitementing my knowledge on guns, I also reverted a version of one of your MP5 pictures because someone copied over it with an airsoft image, I really wish some people would checked the thing while they're uploading an image to make sure the name isn't already used to avoid mistakes like this. And once again, thanks for your contributions and keep up the good work. Alienqueen11.
Heartbreak Ridge M16's
I just saw Heartbreak Ridge on TV this afternoon, and all the M16's I saw on-screen were the A1 variant, complete with bolt-forward assist buttons at the rear of the upper recievers. Even saw one fitted with an M203 grenade launcher used by one of the Recon Marines under Gunnery Sergeant Highway's command.
Orca1 9904 08:01, 22 July 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904 - He might want to look at my page and see they weren't all M16A1s.
Question
Gunmaster45: Hi, I was just wondering how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect? My other question is that on the Hollow Point page I made recently, did I get the AK varient right? I figured I'd ask you as you seem to be the AK pro on the site. Thanks. (My list of pages is on my profile if you feel like checking any of my other work as well.)
M14 rifle
I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great, is there any chance you could take some good shots? The pictures now are blurry, or black and white.
37mm Launcher
Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM
- I built the colt launcher page based on what MT said, but your input greatly helped it. It's a shame taking professional pictures is so complex. The best I have is photoshop and an erase brush. I have a Norinco Type 54 pistol and I wanted to put pictures of it on the site soon. I'm not bad with editing, it should come out okay. I just need to find the time to do it. The M14 rifle pics came out great, let me know if you get your hands on an M21. I'll have plenty of films to be corrected in the future, my to do list touches the sky. One or two every friday or saturday. Stay cool. -GM
Bren 10 "Peregrine Falcon"
- Here's a tricky task, do you think you could find a Bren 10 "Peregrine Falcon"? Aparently it is what John Practice uses in Last Action Hero according to user input, and I can't find a good picture of it. Until I do find a good picture, I'll have to keep my horrible AR-24 picture I had on their before. If it isn't a Bren 10 PF, I'd assume you of all people would shoot me straight.
M1911/M1911A1
- I apoligize for asking one more thing of you, but the M1911 and M1911A1 pistols are infamous works of art in the firearms world, commonly used in films. We got a repro M1911 picture (modernized), a Springfield M1911A1 (when Colt M1911A1 is the genuine picture desired), another M1911A1 with pachmyr grips (better than springfield, but see how it sticks out on Platoon? It's too modern) So is their any chance you could find a genuine (or prefered, an authentic reproduction) of a Colt M1911 and Colt M1911A1 to snap some shots of, that would be awesome. I trust you know them apart, your a pro. Thanks. Good luck. -GM
Re:Last Action Hero
I saw Last Action Hero when I was young and loved it. Now, it is still one of my favorites. I like how it makes fun of action movies, by showing how Arnold can fire a billion rounds from a Desert Eagle and cars just explode for no reason. I'll fix those problems you mentioned. Your saying they are more likely civilian TEC-9s instead of TEC-DC9's? What physical traits help determine this, just the sling? And they were firing full-auto so they were probably converted.
Hi!
Still no replacement grip for the M70?
Shame, it looks strange with that grip - I'm used to seeing them on M76s and M72s... which reminds me: about that mystery long barreled AK - I know that Crvena Zastava makes under-folder RPKs, namely the M72A (7.62 - based on M70), and the M90A (5.56 - based on an assault rifle of the same designation). The under-folder RPKs (those with an "A") have removable bipods (the standard, solid-stock ones have fixed), so w/ the folding stocks and w/o bipods they would look like those mystery AKs, no? Also, one more improtant fact: unlike the Yugo AKs (which have 3 holes), the Yugo RPKs have TWO holes in the forward grip (like the original AKs). http://pookieweb.dyndns.org:61129/Yugo/pics/m72a.jpg
I hope this was hepful, keep up the good work!
Request
I'm sorry to ask, but if you get the chance, can you upload a Beretta M92FS? I know the ones on the site are already good enough, but I want to see how great one by you would be. I know you're already busy, so don't do it if you're too busy, and if you can't upload it, it's okay. Anyway, welcome back, the new pictures for the M16 and M14 are great. Alienqueen11
RE:870
I think you're right about the Mossberg sights on the 870, they seem to match those on the Mossberg more then anything.
Here the picture I had on the page when I thought his shotgun was a Mossberg 500:
And this is the image I have on the page now, seeing it now, they look nothing like the sights in the screencap:
And it looks like the armorer must have put the Mossberg sights on the Remington:
Hope this helps, and thanks for the favor, I appreciate it. Alienqueen11
Done
Don't worry, he won't be able to edit again, if it happens again, I'll be sure to make so only registered users can edit the Commando page. Alienqueen11
Karabiner 98k sniper rifle
- I recently noticed while working on the Saving Private Ryan page that we have no sniper rifle varient Kar98k rifle pic. I've noticed you Enemy at the Gates page is in need of this picture as well too. I apoligize for adding yet another gun to your to-do list but just let me know if you find one. -GM45
Re: FINALLY
Excellent! I already have a use for the 870 folder, too - just put it on the RoboCop page (which features an identical weapon). And thanks for the UMP-45 and the Gen 2 Glock-17 as well! There are so many movies that feature Gen 2 Glocks, yet all we have is that stock picture of a Gen 3. When I get back to my place later today, I'm going to start using your Glock in every movie page that features such a gun.
Also...that AR15A2 you photographed; can we consider it an M16A2? Is it converted to auto or burst? We really need a good M16A2 picture, because the one that appears throughout the site is yet another crappy airsoft picture.
RE:
Hmmm, I'll have to see. There's lots of loose women and great beer over here in Texas that I might be able to offer you, but the gold's gonna be hard to come by! Haha.
Thanks yet AGAIN for the improved two-tone P226 picture. Weirdly enough, I completely failed to notice that the one in Face/Off had a silver hammer until you pointed it out. But it's great that you have a better eye for detail than I do, and moreso that you corrected it. And, of course, thank you for answering my questions about movie guns to the best of your ability. I think your idea for a 12-gauge pump page is perfectly useful, though I must point out that if it can't be categorized, it's gonna be hard for other users to find it. In order to make sure people see it, please add links to it on pages for the shotguns it distinguishes from each other. That would be the best way to make sure your word gets out.
Hope you don't mind, but I've already shown your SIG pics on SIGforum.com to draw attention to our site. I'd show your H&K pictures on HKPRO forum (where I also post), too, if their forum wasn't down every other minute. I dunno if you post on any other gun-related boards, but if you do, show off your pics and point folks to IMFDB. The more attention, the better. We've already got 55,000 views from the Heat page (which features your P220 and M16A1 pictures, among others), so spread the word and more people will discover the beauty of IMFDB with its original movie gun pictures, taken by an actual movie armorer!
Oh, yeah, and I will respond to the topic of vandals on Bunni's talk page shortly. -MT2008
Re:Dibbs
Feel free, one less thing for me to do. I only ask that you keep the bow and knife on the page so it fits the other two. I'll eventually add them to Rambo (2008) so that one fits as well. If anything I'll likely just add some shots like I tend to do. Thanks for asking me and not just doing it. Can't wait to see it. -GM45
- Almost forgot, MT2008 may have asked already but we really need a Poly Tech Legend AK pic.
- Nope, I forgot, too! Yeah, it wouldn't be a bad idea. I've been looking for one on Google image search, but no go on any good ones. Also, speaking of AKs (and here I go again making your request list longer), a new AKM pic would be nice. Not to sound unappreciative, but I tend to shy away from the one you took just because the red stock looks out-of-place and ugly, plus the magazine is the plastic type rather than the ribbed type. If you can get a picture of one of the Maadi AKMs with the right stock, plus a metal ribbed-style mag (which is more the "classic" style, if you will)...great. If not, no worries. -MT2008
Re:Casino Royale
Yep, that's the exact same picture I looked up to remind myself what an M76 was. Actually, I think I always thought that the M76 just referred to their long-range rifle, and I didn't remember that their smaller-caliber AKs were called M76. But I did know off the top of my head that it couldn't be Zastava because their full-sized AKs always have the folding GL sight, and the Casino Royale AKs don't.
BTW, any idea what's wrong with the Taurus PT92 picture you gave us? I just put it on the page for The X-Files, and now it's disappeared. A search of the page history indicates no act of vandalism.
Oh, yeah, and one other thing: I never thanked you for getting that Australian Automatic Arms carbine picture for The Matrix page. So...thanks! -MT2008
DotD 870
I don't mean to bug you, but did you have any luck with the Dawn of the Dead Remington 870, and did the message I sent you about about the sights help at all, please let me know. Also excellent work lately, The new Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 pictures are great, and so are the many other pictures you uploaded lately, I really like the two tone Sig P226s you got for MT2008, those are one of kind. Good luck, and keep up the good work.--Alienqueen11 03:10, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Kelly's Heroes
I was aware they were using FN BAR type D 8mm guns instead of american .30-06 BARs but I didn't know they were using the wrong mag pouches. Thanks for the info. -GM45
Re:M1911 pistols
The 1911 pictures are absolute perfection. The M1911 from 1913 looks great. I have one from 1913 too and yours puts mine to shame. Thanks very much. -GM45
- And thanks for the P38, too! Feel free to just delete the one that's been on the P38 already, and insert your image into any and all movie pages featuring P38s. I've been replacing old gun images on many pages with your new gun images (i.e. the Glock you uploaded earlier in the week). -MT2008
Need some help
Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?
-Excaliber
Re: Beretta M92FS
It looks excellent, I don't mind an American made Beretta, an Italian made one isn't too different, is it? If you come across an Italian one in the future, you can upload that, but you don't have to, like I said, I like the new one as it is. Thank you soo much for the favor, you never disappoint.--Alienqueen11 23:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the USP!
I was thinking of asking you for a USP pic, but figured I should hold off on it, just to prevent you from getting bogged down.
As you can tell, we're embarking on a campaign to replace any and all older images of guns taken from other sites, with the pictures you've uploaded. I'm also curious...what would you think of a page dedicated to explaining the importance of your gun images to new users of the site, and featuring examples of your work? It would be linked from the main page. -MT2008
Should cartoons be allowed?
I want to know if it is either no one cares about the fact that cartoons like Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and recently South Park had been allowed to this site. I have don't think these pages should exist because do you think about the rare guns that appears on those shows and wonder what they are? Cause I sure don't. I'm too busy laughing my ass off to how funny these series are, not wondering if the shotgun Homer used in the Zombie episode was a Winchester Model 1887 or that it never appeared in any other episode following. I don't care and I dont think anyone else should care. We're getting cartoon fanboys that thinks just because Family Guy has an episode where Stewie has a closet full of look alike guns, means we should write a page about them. Those guns are not the point of the show and the artist that drew them obviously didn't take much consideration for them or mention. I think Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and South Park be removed at once. None of them deserve to be on this site. And whoever puts them here doesn't respect this site enough.
- That's a little harsh. I added some of the info on those pages, thank you. I was eventually going to do the South Park movie, because it does in fact have some pretty obvious guns in it. Personally I think they shouldn't be removed but if they are to stay, someone should take the time to screencap them and show us what they are talking about. -GM45
Reign of Fire
I just finished screencapping Reign of Fire and before I upload them on the page, I wanted to see if you knew what this gun is. Based on what I see I'm assuming it is a .577 Nitro Tyrannosaurus Rex rifle built personally by the Mauser company's greatest gunsmiths based on the Mauser rifle type extractor/bolt release and the Mauser style firing pin striker seen on the gun. At first I thought it was a Model 70 or a Mauser sporterized and then they show what big ass rounds he loads in it so now I just don't know. I figured of all, you'd likely know best. Also, if it is a T-rex rifle, I'd likely need a picture of it because as usual, the internet sucks for finding gun pics. I know this gun is rare but so is the .600 Nitro double barreled rifle, but that is seen in The Lost World: Jurassic Park despite that. I'm not expecting a picture from you because I know how rare and expensive it is but I figured if it ever came up I could count on you.
Here's the pics:
Hope you respond soon. -GM45
- I've decided to upload the movie tommorow to give you more time to respond. -GM
- I didn't expect you'd have one, after all it isn't a mass produced company gun. Major members of the Mauser company make it customly crafted. You'll see it all on the page in a sec. Also, the pic I uploaded I had to edit so it was horizontal and since it had 4 whited corners after turning it, I had to clone the corners in. Once you know, it is far more obvious to tell where I edited.
Re: New Pics
What I meant is that I want to make sure people on this site see how thorough you are, and how accurately you match guns to requests. Remember that AR15 Sporter that you visually modified to look like an XM177 from The Dogs of War? Or the two SIG P226s you made to look the ones in Face/Off and Bad Boys II? Those are the kinds of gun pics that I want to show off to new folks. What I would do is just make a page that briefly explains your contributions, and then shows guns you've photographed and how close they are to those in the movies. This is an unformed idea, I admit, but basically, I want people browsing this sight to understand (1.) That your images are exclusive to IMFDB, and (2.) That they're basically close representations of what those users have seen in movies. I know I'm not being terribly articulate, but do you understand what I mean?
And don't worry about replacing previous pics with your pics. The rest of us will continue to do that for you, as we've been doing. So far, we've pretty much replaced all of the old M16s, M4s, Berettas, Glocks, Kar98s, MP40s, etc. with your guns. I think I'm gonna start putting your USP pic on our pages, too (except those that feature the larger .45 variant of the USP, like Collateral).-MT2008
AK-47 recognition page
Now that you've made a Shotgun page, why not make an AK page to tell a Norinco from a Maadi from a genuine, from a poly tech, etc. Also, maybe an M16 page for slab sides, A1s, A2s, etc. It would probably help the users out a lot. I'm sure the shotgun page did. Personally, I have trouble telling a Norinco Type 56 aside from its hooded sight. Perhaps a couple of close ups of sight placement, recievers and all that will make me a more efficient I.Der. -GM45
Dawn of the Dead
Hey, MPM2008, I uploaded some more shots of Ving Rhames' shotgun in Dawn of the Dead (2004) if you want to take a look, it's in the Custom Remington 870 section of the page. Thanks in advance.--Alienqueen11 03:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Hey
Hey, MPM2008, do you want me to put protections on your images so no one can revert them if they've been upload over with images from the internet in the past, or upload over them? I'm asking this because some user keeps uploading a crappy picture from the internet over your H&K USP40 image. And if you want, I could ask Bunni to make you a mod or I can take the protections off them whenever you want to edit them or upload a new version of them. Let me know what you want to do.--Alienqueen11 20:24, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Update: I protected all your images, and I also asked Bunni to make you an adminstrator so you can upload new versions of or revert them if want. If you not made an admin right away, just tell me what image you want to access, and I'll unlock it for you. I'm sorry I had to do this, but I wanted to prevent idiots like the guy who kept uploading over your H&K USP40 from changing your pictures, and I promise, if I ever get the ability to block users back, I will undo the protections. See you soon and good luck.--Alienqueen11 03:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Made you a mod, enjoy. WikiSysop 22:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Response
Thanks, I will always make sure your images stay the way they are. And I didn't understand that user either, I told him politely a bunch of times to stop, but he wouldn't listen. What really intrigues me most is how somebody could prefer a crappy image they probably found on Google Images over an excellent well photographed image such as yours. As for being a mod, congratulations, but I most warn you that the block function is not working at this time, but Bunni is trying his best to fix it, but you will be able to delete any pages or images you don't want, and you will also be able to protect pages. And if we ever get the ability to block back, that one user is going to be the first on my list.--Alienqueen11 02:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
As for the 870, take as much time as you need to, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait when it's uploaded. I will also have more requests in the future, but I won't bother you with them right now. And I also I have a question, I read your new project pictures thing on your user page, and when you say 870 riot configurations, do mean Remington 870s similar in appearence to the one seen in Walking Tall? Thanks, and good luck, I can't wait to see any future images you upload.--Alienqueen11 02:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Update- MPM2008, you are now able to block vandals.
Re:Special page
Well, that's fine. But now that you're a mod and your images can be protected, I don't think there's much to worry about. I also think it would just be cool if new users understood right off the bat that IMFDB has essentially its own movie armorer. -MT2008
Other Request
Hey, MPM2008, whenever you get the chance, is there a possiblity you can get me a Beretta 92FS Inox or Stainless model of the Beretta 92FS? Thanks in advance. Also, good work with your recent images, I really like the new Walther P99, I was going to ask for one, but you thought about it before I did. Keep up the great work.--Alienqueen11 21:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Sin City Yellow Bastard's custom 92FS
YB's Beretta 92FS in Sin City is a unique blend of a factory black and an Inox model, similair to SIG-Sauer used in 2 fast 2 furious. Since AQ11 just asked for an Inox, if you get your hands on one, do yuo think you could mix the two together. This is the gun in the movie.
Thanks -GM45
Re: Pop Quiz
I think that may be a Smith & Wesson Model 27, as it comes in both .357 Magnum and .38 Special and looks similar to the one used in Bad Boys by the main villian. Orca1 9904 06:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
- Isn't the Mod 27 a larger frame? That's what's stumping me. It looks like the frame of a model 10. MPM2008.
- That one in the Bad Boys screenshot looks pretty huge, unless the actor has small hands. Orca1 9904 07:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
- Arghhh. I had better go back to the vault and check. I keep on thinking it's a Model 19-2, primarily because the Mod 27-2 barrel looks different than this one. Thanks so much for the effort. MPM2008
BTW, I'll let you know what I find out. :)
RE:animated gifs
I have a lot of high-tec computer editing crap, I likely could do it. I just don't know how. My sister is computer wiz, I see if she can figure it out. I had all three of those Heat GIFs saved on my Myspace. Just a heads up, I'm gonna be doing The Punisher (2004) soon, so you can check that out. I can't make you any promises on the animated GIFs tho. -GM
Re: Reign of Fire
Thanks. Take your time on the Ultimax, it isn't a big deal right now. Wiki just made me an Admin. so I'm feeling pretty damn special right now. I'm going to get the Punisher (2004) on today, than I'm finally back on track with my original list. -GM45
"Non Guns"
I just made a page for the "Non Guns", and I'm curious to know what you think of it. I don't know a whole lot about them besides what I've read online, whereas I imagine you've probably got some experience with them, since I've heard many armorers rent them for scenes where blanks are unsafe. Any thoughts? Would say the summary I've done at the top of the page is a pretty good description of what they do?
Cheers.-MT2008
- Haha, trust me, I hear you on the "fugly" part. I cringe every time I spot a Non Gun in a movie or TV show, because they're soooooo fake-looking and too many idiot directors don't even think to film them at angles/lighting conditions where it won't be so obvious what they are. But, like you've said, our goal here is to be educational and informative, and no matter how crappy Non Guns might look, they are still important to the topic of guns in cinema, and that's what we're here for. :) The images are from Weapons Specialists' web site, which apparently subrents them; ISS has their own pictures, but I prefer Weapons Specialists' because theirs don't have the measuring tape above the gun.
- Sorry to hear you've been sick, but don't worry...you never have to apologize for anything. I really like the idea of your "Hello IMFDB!" card and think it would be great for our site. I will, of course, not demand it or anything, but it would be awesome if we had something like that. I agree with the idea of using the IMFDB logo, though if I can think of anything else, I'll tell you. As usual, thanks for all the work you've been doing (for us AND Hollywood), and thanks for the kind words on my Non Guns page. -MT2008
2nd-Gen Glock 23
Hey, I was wondering if you could possibly provide an image of a 2nd-Generation Glock 23 for the article on The Fugitive, since the image for that weapon on the page is of a 3rd-Generation model with accessory rails on the frame as opposed to the smooth-framed 2nd-Generation model seen in the screenshots? I already edited the Glock 22 section similarly for that article and the sequel U.S. Marshals, and was wondering if you could help me out with that one image so I don't have to chase down an image on Google. Thanks in advance. Orca1 9904 08:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
- I asked for Second-Generation Glocks, those are 3rd generation (note the accessory rails at the front of the frame). Seeing as someone identified the compact Glock model in the film in question as a Glock 19 it's something of a moot point now. However, a 2nd-Generation Glock 19 image would be appreciated as there's none available here yet and there's several pages here that could benefit from an image of that weapon. Orca1 9904 07:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
Get Well Soon
Hey MPM2008, I heard you were sick so I wanted to stop by and say get well soon.--Alienqueen11 20:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
My man!
Awesome! The AKM and Type 84 look great; they're just what we needed. It's weird that I haven't been able to find a good picture of a standard fixed-stock Type 84 anywhere; yours might just be one of the best pics of this gun on the entire 'net right now. Question...is the AKM a Maadi, or is some other make? I would like to edit the entry on the AK-47 page to say if it is or not.
I will start phasing out the old pictures and replacing them, although it seems you guys have a head start on me. And thanks for the other new pictures as well - love that new PSG-1, the Uzi Carbine, and of course the "plain" 870 police (which, like you said, was something we REALLY needed). I'm also glad to see you're better, too. Take care. -MT2008 15:19, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
(BTW...dunno if you've noticed, but I only discovered this recently; if you hit the " ~ " key four times, it signs your posts automatically so that you don't have to type out your username. I've been using Wikis for several years now and I only just figured that out. Alienqueen discovered this long before I did, but just a heads-up.)
Great work
Thanks for the police 870, it looks excellent. we really needed a standard since so many of the 870s on the site look like that. I'll be sure to replace all the 870s that need to be replaced with that. And also, I'm glad to hear you got better.--Alienqueen11 18:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Oops
I didn't read correctly who gave me the PSG1 pic
Pics
Hi,
First of all, thanks yet again for the new pics! The SR9s are nice, but...I had no idea that some SR9s in movies are actually converted from HK91s? If that's the case, then by all means, you should still go ahead and put down those pics under the SR9 section of the G3 page. But does this also mean that the SR9(T) from The Replacement Killers is one of these guns? Again, this is just a huge revelation for me. I still see no reason to put them under the HK91 entry, simply because if they're meant to be SR9s, just as the converted HK94s are meant to be MP5s, then I think it's appropriate to label them as such.
And, thanks for the Type 56 that looks like the Goldeneye ones. If you want to shoot it again with the regular non-blued bolt carrier, that's fine by me. However, I should also point out that the ones in Goldeneye also have red bakelite magazines, so you might wanna give it one of those, too. Then, you'll have something identical to the Goldeneye "AKS-74s". But I will still use the picture you have in the meantime. -MT2008 00:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm. Yeah, I guess I figured when I noticed the trigger, but I wasn't sure if the gun from The Replacement Killers was genuine or not. Was this sort of thing done because real SR9s were too expensive? I figured since the SR9 used to be a readily available civilian "assault rifle", armorers would use it.
- However, if your guns are a fairly accurate representation of the SR9s that have appeared in movies, then it's better that you've given us images of these particular guns. I agree with you that our goal should be to have the most accurate representations of movie guns possible, and since you're an armorer, we can anticipate that yours represent what movies use.-MT2008 04:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- only 125 TCs were imported into the entire USA and only 100 T models
- Wow, it was really that few? OK, that explains everything. I had no idea they were so rare to begin with. Even HKPRO, which has import data for most of the -90 series guns, didn't have that info. Thanks for those numbers.
- Like I've said, I think this means it's good that we have the pics you've taken because they are a very accurate representation of the SR9s actually used in movies. I would recommend you do one of those "Movie Armorer's Notes" in the SR9 section of the G3 page, just like you did for the Colt Commando section on the M16 page, explaining what you've told me. Hope it doesn't bother you that we're unmasking all of the various tricks that you armorers have been using over the years to convince moviegoers they're seeing one gun when it's actually another! -MT2008 02:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Re: SR9
I think part of the problem is that there just aren't enough people who take Wikis in general seriously. As far as HK aficionados go, one of my pet peeves is that way too many of them I meet are way too arrogant towards non-HK owners for not being able to appreciate the "Teutonic superiority" (as Larry Correia put it) of HK weapons. Sorry to say that I dunno if you can please some of them no matter what you do. :)
Personally, I accept that there's some stuff that even Hollywood's people have to do in order to make our movie experience satisfactory. Like when we were talking about the Jarhead Abrams tanks...it's a necessary evil for Hollywood vehicle wranglers to dress up an English Centurion to look like an M1A1 simply because unless you're Spielberg, it's very hard to get the DoD to lend you a real one for a show. And likewise, in 1984, it was not possible to get real Soviet AKMs, RPG-7s, and DShKs, so the Stembridge armorers had to find the next best thing. But I also enjoy uncovering these tricks simply because I'm an enthusiast of firearms and military equipment in general, so I always like seeing how Hollywood's people think on the fly in adverse circumstances. There's an art to it, no? -MT2008 02:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the correction on the Four Brothers' HK33, it was labeled as a HK41 long before I started editing the page, I just took the screenshot. And also, thanks for the new images, I'm putting up the new M16A2 on pages right now.--Alienqueen11 19:34, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
No problem, every image you upload is great. I also have a question, how do you get the pictures so perfect? Because your gun images are probably some of the best, if not the best gun images I ever seen on the internet. And yea, your new camera really does make a difference, the new versions of the images look great. Anyway, good job on your recent images, and can't wait to see your future M16s.--Alienqueen11 20:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
I see, you put alot of effort into your images and that's exactly what makes them great. I agree that alot of gun sites have bad images, some gun books don't have the best pictures either. One problem with some sites is that they also don't use the best examples, like they'll have a picture of gun but it'll have a whole bunch of modifications on it when the unmodified one is what's really needed, and I agree which should replace as many as the old images as possible. And I think visitors do notice your images because if you look at your Remington 870 Riot Model's file page, it has almost 200 views anad it's only been there since Sunday. And good work on the new M4, if you noticed, Hieloco (the user who kept trying to replace your images with "Net" Images) uploaded a version of the ColtM4 file with similar attachments, but yours beats his by by a long shot. And also is that the same M4 you mentioned on MT2008's talk page that the actor dropped? Just wondering.--Alienqueen11 21:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
re:M16A2
First of all, thanks so much for the new M16A2! The AR15 A2 picture was nice, too, but I just thought it'd be better to have the real deal, and it's nice that we have it now. AlienQueen's already been getting to work on replacing the old M16A2 with the new one, and I'll help out, too. The Luger is another image we needed - and the fact that it's from Hogan's Heroes is especially cool! As far as the HK91 goes, I didn't notice the shadow, but the new one is fine by me. There's only one that troubles - I think the newer Taurus 85 image is a bit fuzzier compared to the old one.
As far as future stuff goes, I have another recommendation. You know how we have an AR15 section under the M16 rifle page? I'd like to get some more un-modified, basic civvie AR15 variants on there, especially Colt Sporters, because I've seen them used in quite a few movies and TV shows that stand in for mil-spec M16s. We've already got an SP1 with an A2 hand guard that you took for the Heat page, but I think we should also have SP1s without the forward assist (both A1 and A2 forearms) and a carbine with a 16" barrel. What do you think? (Sadly, I have added more guns to your to-do list...inevitable.)
And yes, we definitely have some of the best gun pics on the 'Net thanks to you. I must admit I'm still smitten with the fact that Norinco Type 84 pics are basically non-existent in just about any gun image site around (even World Guns, which is usually pretty reliable)...except here. -MT2008 00:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Actually, one other thing occurred to me, something we need more than the Colt Sporter ARs...do you think you could get some pics of Thompson Submachine Guns? All of our Tommy images are jacked from elsewhere on the Net. It's about time they were replaced. Of course, I know we've already given you a ridiculous number of requests, so I won't bug you too much. Thanks. -MT2008 00:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Sergio Leone Trilogy
I finished the Leone Trilogy yesterday and I was wondering if you could I.D. the machine gun used in A Fistful of Dollars, someone said it was a fake but wasn't very specific. I figured if it was some type of fake movie gun, you'd know best.
- Also, excellent Single Action Army picture, that's a beautiful gun. Care to tell me a little about the one you uploaded? Thanks. -GM
P.S. Check out Last Man Standing, I just got that done.
Good job on the Luger P08, it looks great. I don't think the finishes are a big deal, to tell you the truth, I don't even notice it. And it's cool that it was used in Hogan's Heroes, because not only is it a special gun, but someone's destined to make a Hogan's Heroes page eventually, and it will be of a great use when someone does. Keep up the great work.--Alienqueen11 01:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Speaking of LMS, his two .45s uniquely have diamond grips and I was wondering if you could take a special picture of A1s with diamond grips. I made a rough draft picture of what I had in mind.
Let me know what you can do. -GM
re: Taurus 85 & G3
Haha...whoops, you're right. I keep forgetting, but...when you upload a new version of an existing image, IMFDB doesn't instantly replace it. Instead, the old image goes fuzzy for a period of time (which seems to vary from hours to days; no clue why) before the new image replaces it. I saw your Taurus Mod 85 pic when it was in this fuzzy "transitional" phase and the thought slipped my mind that this happens. The filter from my brain to my mouth (or rather, my keyboard) doesn't work sometimes, I guess.
As far as the G3 page goes, it is unfortunate. One thing I find annoying about Wikis is that there's apparently no way to confine an image to a particular section of a page when you use the "align" code, so when we follow page conventions and force an image to shift left, right, or center, it totally fucks up the formatting if the images are bigger than the text (which is going to be common for guns that don't have very many movie appearances listed). The only thing you can do is just add lots of space in between each section manually so that the images fit into the section.
But I do agree with you on one thing...why do we need a regular sporter SR9 with the thumbhole stock? Have you seen a movie with one? Do you or any of your fellow armorers have any in stock? Better yet, is there any movie or TV show that would NEED some heavily neutered civilian version of a G3? I kinda doubt it, so I would say it doesn't make sense to include the image. -MT2008 06:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I ditched the other two SR9 pics. Til we get movies with them (and I know I haven't heard of any yet), no point in having them on there.
- Nice that you found those long-barreled AK folders. I'm pretty sure that Vollmer had at least one at sale (years ago, back when their sales site was still online), but they are quite rare in this country indeed. As far as the pics from World Guns go...it's a mix, just like here. Some of them are pics that the site's editors took themselves, others are jacked from other sites, and some are scanned from books or gun rags. I've usually just used them because (before us), they were one of the most comprehensive gun sites on the net. But I definitely think that because of you, IMFDB now has not only good movie gun images, but some of the best gun images, PERIOD.
- Good luck on your current projects, and don't let those idiot Obama-supporting actors fuck up any more of your guns. -MT2008 00:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
The special page
Remember how a while ago I asked you if I could try making a page that explained to new IMFDB users just how significant it was that we have a movie armorer who photographs his company's guns for us? Well, I finally got around to trying it out. Here it is:
MoviePropMaster2008: IMFDB's Own Armorer
The title is kinda cheesy, I admit, but it was the best I could think of. The other issue is that I'm not always sure my facts are straight, so if you want to correct anything, go right ahead. And I realize this might be kind of a lame idea - but I just feel it's important for everyone to understand how important your work is to this site. What do you think? -MT2008 01:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, trust, I fully understand what you mean about wanting to remain anonymous. Even if you weren't a pro-RKBAer working in an industry that is hostile to gun ownership (and non-liberals in general), it would still be perfectly reasonable to want to remain anonymous. When you're a professional of any sort, working in any industry, you don't want to do post something on a web site under your own name that could get you in trouble. As far as the page goes, however, I don't think it should be too big a deal for your anonymity as long as you avoid giving us your name. It's mostly just a way for us to brag that we have someone who can provide us with such great pictures, and to make sure that our new users understand the significance of those pictures. :-) But if you really are uncomfortable with it, that's fine, too...I can ditch it. It took all of 15 minutes to make.
- BTW, I dunno if you're OK telling me this or not (if not I understand), but are you a member of the American Entertainment Armorers' Association? I remember Dan Shea announcing its creation on a forum I used to visit, a couple years ago now. I understand that it was created specifically to address the threat from Cali's gun laws upon your businesses? -MT2008 01:35, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
More SAAs
Your Colt Peacemakers are great, my western pages greatly need them. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Be sure to check out Hellboy II: The Golden Army, I just finished it. -GM
Image use on WIkipedia?
Hi, I am an editor on the English Wikipedia. I came across this great site as it completes the media appearances lacking in our firearms pages. You've got some fantastic images of some obscure equipment in the idea configuration - that is, clear background and side profile shots. These would really help us illustrate some of our pages that are lacking in media content. Would you be kind enough to allow us to use these images on Wikipedia? We could upload them under an attribution license and provide a link to this Wiki in return. Kind regards, Koalorka from the WP:Firearms teams. 99.232.219.131 12:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
- Any chance of obtaining a response? I can be reached at koalora at rogers.com. 99.232.219.131 12:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
- If you are hesitant or have any further questions regarding licensing, feel free to ask. Wikipedia is by principle an entirely non-profit organization as you are probably aware and we could not compensate you financially for the images. I do recognize that there was some considerable effort involved in collecting some of these rare specimens (still salivating over the CETME Ameli) and then setting up a studio with professional lighting, hardware etc. What we can offer to do is attribute you properly and generate additional traffic and awareness for this site and any other organization you specify (even the armory/studio that owns the firearms). If you agreed to have your images uploaded to our server, every one of them would be licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license that requires the copyright holder to be properly credited every time the image is displayed, in either modified or unmodified form. The license does not impair or restrict your moral rights. Here is the license description. We can do a "test" image so to speak, upload an individual image to see if that satifies your expectations.
- In other words, don't make me beg.. :D At least the Ameli, pretty please.
- Regards.
- To Koaloarka, I appreciate your kind words and gracious offer. As you can probably tell, I've been thinking about the offer. I'm obviously not jumping at the opportunity or else I would have communicated much earlier than now. I must assess what I've been trying to do for the last six months. Since I joined IMFDB I've been working extraordinarily hard to provide the site with exclusive gun images that are available nowhere else. Everyone here knows the hard work, time and $$ spent on trying to get the best quality images of the weapons available anywhere (on the net). And obviously I do it for the benefit of IMFDB. I'm torn by the upside of increased awareness to the site, but I am also not eagerly anticipating the inevitable diluting of the 'exclusivity' of IMFDB's images when they start showing up everywhere on the web.
- Some background to my thinking - I would not have done the images for a simple firearms site. I probably would not have worked so hard for six months to get these types of images for a gun wiki. IMFDB's unique focus is that it mixes weapons and CINEMA, especially movie trivia and factoids which are not part of the 'regular gun owner's lexicon. That is the field I'm in, and I welcomed the idea of a place where I can contribute my experience and information (mostly 'lost' on the 'regular firearms crowd'). Many of my images are hybrid guns (M16a2s with A1 features or vice versa), or some of custom guns made for the movies (Custom Type 84s or AMD-65s), or weird combinations of uppers and lowers (like the M16 variants, or the 2 toned handguns,etc). which are not factory standards nor are they historically accurate. I remember once, when a firearms historian and enthusiast looked at some of my handguns (SIG P226s and USPs) and was wondering what was wrong with my barrels. He didn't fathom nor appreciate the fact that these were REAL movie guns. He was just disdainful that they were 'ruined' because of the customization needed for blank firing in movies. Anyway, I was toying with the possibility of a limit release of images with a specific watermark or copyright. I was thinking of using similar but not identical images (but still identifying IMFDB.org as the source of the image) with a translucent copyright logo, but that would take some time. But I have not decided yet and I hope you understand my reluctance at this time. I've only been doing this for six months and I don't think I'm ready right now to 'give away' the work I've done when I'm not complete updating the gun images for IMFDB. Perhaps when I've stopped or retired from getting gun pics for IMFDB ....
- Now there are some sites who already have MY permission to use some MY images, but each one of those entities provided weapons to be photographed, so they helped me personally with the photography itself. (some FFLs, a few collector friends, other armorers, etc.) So you might see a recognizable shot somewhere else, but they will be watermarked and copyrighted as license granted to that entity.
- Anyway I'm still thinking about it. Give me a little time. I am also conferring with other Administrators of IMFDB and I welcome their input. Ultimately, I will have to make some sort of decision (as the original photographer and copyright holder) as to where I wish to release the rights. Hope that helps.
- MoviePropMaster2008 02:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with what you say about how many people in the gun-owning community aren't going to appreciate what these guns are if they see them on any random gun site. Like, who the hell is going to understand that in Hollywood, HK91s are converted to look like SR9s, or AR15 SP1 carbines converted to look like XM177s? However, one thing I think you should consider is that some of the guns you've photographed are hard to find pictures of, and your pictures represent not only good "movie gun" images, but good gun images, period. The Type 84 pics you've taken are a very good example, because like I said earlier, good pics of the Type 84 seem extraordinarily hard to come by. The new FG42 image is also one that I think can be considered particularly special.
- I would say that at the very least, you should consider it on a case-by-case basis; whether the gun image you have stands as both an important gun image as well as an important "movie gun" image. But ultimately, these are your images, so the decision is yours. Take my opinion only for what it's worth. -MT2008 03:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- I was not asking for a blanket-release of your work into the public domain or any such thing, just a few individual photographs of authentic and obscure and unmodified firearms, i.e. the CETME Ameli, FG42. Cheers. 99.232.226.200 18:11, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- I KNEW that. But work on Wikipedia WILL be jacked and seen all over the web. And the more removed the image is from the original source (here) the harder it is to force people to remove pirated images on their own sites. I fully intend to slam pirates who steal my images (which is my right), but it's harder when they can say "Oh I got it from Wikipedia, who are you? What authority do YOU have to tell me not to use a stolen pic?" It might be helpful to make a list of what you are interested in. I am considering creating an alternate image of the same gun with watermarks and attributions for 3rd parties (though it's not something I was planning to do at this time). Let me know your list and we can discuss it. thanks MoviePropMaster2008 18:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- The attribution license is for that purpose specifically, if you are not properly attributed when the image is displayed, that person has violated your rights to the image and is liable for prosecution under international or US copyright laws. Keep in mind that those willing to pirate your images will do so whether or not you agree with it, this will happen at a higher frequency once your sites gains in popularity; by letting Wikipedia use your images, your images will proliferate the net with the proper license, exposing your work and Imfdb.org to the mainstream. Right now, we can do just one image to determine if you'd be satisfied with the end result; how about the Ameli? The CETME Ameli page does not receive too many hits due to the scarcity of the gun. Kind regards. 99.232.226.200 19:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Smiths
Thanks so much for the Smiths, but especially the Model 29! All the ones on the page before now were 629s, and I figured we needed an original blued M29. In fact, it seems almost like blasphemy that this is exactly what Dirty Harry used and we haven't had the right gun until tonight. -MT2008 06:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah, forgot about that other S&W 29, hehe. But still, an MPM2008 photo of a Smith is always preferable to some random image from Google. And to answer your question - yes, you should feel free to replace old pictures jacked from Google with yours. There's no reason why anyone should complain, because...
- (A.) Your pictures are always vastly superior to the old ones
- (B.) It takes no effort to copy an image off the web, whereas taking your own pics is a time-consuming process (especially the way you do it)
- (C.) You're an administrator now, so you have the final word anyway.
- As far as the other Wiki guy's offer goes, I agree that you should only do it if you can mark the images as your own first, or if they give you proper credit (and link to this site, guaranteeing us more hits :). Come to think of it, it might not be a bad idea to do that with ALL of your gun images from now on, just to make sure that we mark them definitively as ours. But although I like being able to think of your gun images as exclusively IMFDB's, not so sure I like the idea of clamping down on other users. I mean, let's face it, we'd look like hypocrites because many of the images on IMFDB are still jacked from other sites (though this will change eventually, of course). World Guns would probably throw a fit if they saw this site. -MT2008 01:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I suppose you're right...if World Guns did ask us to remove all of the images we've used without permission, I would immediately comply with their request. However, you gotta admit that it's still going to be kind of flattering if people decide that IMFDB is a great source of gun images (not just "movie gun" images) and want to use our pics.
- BTW, have you talked to any of the other armorers about IMFDB? -MT2008 04:04, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Predator
I never knew they tend to used A1 muzzle breaks but it does make sense, A1 star flashes look cool (I'm still in awe over the shot when the muzzle flash is out 2ft in each direction)
I hope you don't mind that I edited your pictures together, I just used what I had. I'll just leave them on the page like that until you take some SP1 pics. Thanks. More to come on the Predator page. -GM
Hollow Point
Thanks for the Type 84S specific to the Hollow Point page. I really apprieciate it. Was the gun actually used in the movie or do you mean it is made to look the same? -GM
The Mask
I have it on my list, so I'll get it done eventually. -GM
Alienqueen11 here, sorry if I got in the way when you were uploading gun images when I was uploading those Resident Evil screenshots. --Alienqueen11 00:38, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the new guns
I really like those new SIGs you uploaded (just ditched the old P220R image and replaced it with yours on all pages), as well as the Type 84 folder and the Madsen M50 (the movie City of God features those, so we gotta get that image on that page whenever someone screencaps it).
Also, can you by chance tell me what kind of shotgun this is (from my page for The Crow):
Who makes that bullpup stock? I think it's a Muzzelite, but I dunno, and a Google search seems to turn up negative for info or images on this gun. I know I've seen it in at least a couple of action movies from the 1990s. -MT2008 03:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, OK, thanks for clarifying the type of gun used to kill Lee. I figured it was the 629 that killed him because I have heard from various articles that the gun was definitely a .44 Magnum, and the character of Funboy uses the 629 throughout the movie. Any idea why they switched to another gun for that one scene? Seems like it would have been identifiable as a continuity error had the scene been finished and Lee had not been killed.
- And don't worry; I do fully appreciate (have heard it many times) that the entire reason that the accident happened was because the production sent the armorer home in order to save money. And I have heard it was the fault of some clueless property assistant(s) who were responsible for the fuck-up that got Lee killed.
- Also, I appreciate the ID on Grange's shotgun. -MT2008 02:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Re:Dibbs
I didn't think of it that way but I completely understand what you mean. I'll change the word. Dibbs is kind of declaring it is mine, simply saying that a movie is on my to-do list changes it sort of. The only movies I would really want to declare "dibbs" on are the ones I ordered on DVD, even when I own them on VHS already, just so I can screencap them. I'll remove my dibbs messages and just let people know I plan to do it, and if no one else plans to do it, I would like to. "Dibbs" was simply a poor choice of words. It's not like I'm locking the page from someone else to work on though. When Orca1 9904 asked to do Tears of the Sun, I let him. (AQ11 even cut off the widescreen bars now). When you asked to do Rambo III, I let you. (P.S. Let me know if you need me to finish that.) I agree tho, it was a dumb idea. P.S. I screencapped Iron Man, sorry. -GM
One more request
Hey MPM2008, when I asked for the Beretta 92FS Inox, I happened to notice GM45 asked for a reversed Two Tone Beretta 92FS for use on the Sin City. If you happen to get ahold of them, I would like to know if you can combine them the factory style way as well and photograph it if you can, because a Beretta like that would be useful for pages such as Hostage (2005). Here's a screenshot of the gun in the movie:
Thanks in advance.--Alienqueen11 01:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
That's an awesome shot as always, aAnd you're right that has to be the best shot of the gun on the entire internet. I like it the way it is, and excellent work on your most recent images too, I really like the M16A4. Also, are you still considering the Wikipedia user's offer?--Alienqueen11 01:53, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
AK-104
It looks great. The magazine is no big deal. Even with that magazine, you still have the only well-taken AK-104 on the net. Don't worry about fixing it right away, it looks awesome even with the wrong mag. One thing though. You never know when one day a movie could have an AK-104 with a waffle mag so don't just cover over it if you take a new pic. You replaced the MAC-10 with the after market mag with the newer image, but you never know when one could be seen using one. Just a pointer. I'm almost done with Hot Fuzz, then I'm gonna do Tropic Thunder, Crank, Shawshank Redemption, and The Dirty Dozen. Should have them all done by the end of the month. (With deer season, my job to fix guns has been pulling me away. Plus, I hunt myself on occasion.) Keep up the good work. -GM
- If I use the word "sexy" to describe a gun picture, what does that say about me? LOL.
- I like it. And I agree with Alienqueen; I wouldn't worry too much about the mag. However, I must say that I'm a little more excited about some of the other pics you uploaded while I was at work today...thanks so much for re-doing that Type 56-1 picture for the Goldeneye page with the AK-74 muzzle break and plastic mag, and I also really appreciate you getting the Benelli M1 Super 90 (oddly enough, we don't have a page for that gun, for whatever reason). And the new XM177 pic is something we REALLY needed; time to ditch that old XM177 picture we've been using to represent "Colt Commandos" in movies (I think it's actually a Tokyo Marui airsoft replica, anyway).
- But...for now, I must do more GRE studying and personal statements for grad school apps. Sadly, I'm getting way too busy to make regular contributions these days, but real life keeps calling. -MT2008 02:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- I wouldn't worry too much about the stock, because if you notice every image you upload always finds a use. There's no telling if a movie will come up with an AK 104 in the same configuration, plus if it's a movie gun, the movie it was used in will have to come up eventually. But if you want to upload a new one, that's entirely up to you.--Alienqueen11 02:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- So finishes can cause that much trouble when combining parts? Makes you wonder how they do it because I see soo many Berettas in wierd configurations in movies, I remember seeing a Beretta 92FS Inox with a black barrel in Kiss of The Dragon. And also, how rare is it to see a two tone Beretta 92FS? Because even if you search it on Google, there aren't many images of one.
And about the FG421, that is one wierd looking gun, is it German made? Because it resembles the MG42's from Saving Private Ryan a little bit, but I must say the grip dosen't look too comfortable with the way it's positioned. But another great image none the less.--Alienqueen11 04:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
FG-42
Nice piece. It must be rare, I don't ever see them in my typical order books like Southern Ohio Guns or any other vintage firearms catalogs. Like AQ said, I think the grip is positioned ackwardly and seems uncomfortable. Like all the other cool German guns, I can't own it sadly. I don't see why they would make it a paratrooper gun, way too big. Nice pic. Glad you didn't ignore it in the back. -GM
No Problem
You're welcome. Despite not being such a great movie, it was quite interesting gun-wise :))
Taps and Mr. & Mrs. Smith
I don't own Tapps and have never seen it but I own the Extended Cut of Mr. & Mrs. Smith, which includes a scene with a Mini-gun and cool other things. It is on my list and once my to-do list pile is reduced, I'll get on it. Right now I'm working on Tropic Thunder and The Shawshank Redemption. -GM
The FG42
Damn, that thing is beautiful! Reminds me why one can never fail to give the Nazis points for ingenuity when it came to weapons. I seriously want one, along with a Sturmgewehr. Good news though! Have you heard about this? http://www.ssd-weapon.com/engl_web/produkte_en/fg42_en/fg42_en.htm Apparently, they've got civvie reproductions of these guns now! Dunno if/when they'll get imported/manufactured in the States. -MT2008 03:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Your choice, I guess. Are they being imported to the states yet, though? The site doesn't list a U.S. distributor, and I haven't seen any for sale yet. But yeah, it would be cool to have a picture of a nice new FG42, plus you can get the 2nd version which you told Alienqueen you didn't have.
- BTW, speaking of rare German weapons, do you have access to a Sturmgewehr (either -42 or -44)? There aren't too many movies with them that I'm aware of (besides Escape to Athena), but they do appear in lots of WWII-themed games. -MT2008 01:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Remington 870
Closest thing I can find is this bird gun in The Unit.
- I read your story on Brandon Lee, that's tragic. I sometimes make dummy bullets and I always fire the primers before I reload the bullet. Your supposed to use super glue to make sure the round stays in the brass. Then you go to a wire wheel and polish the brass and get rid of any super glue that seeped out. I wonder why they never made "dud" primers that could look live but not go "bang" when the hammer falls on them. I first made dummy rounds with 8mm rounds for my Kar98k, but I didn't super-glue them in, and eventually they all fell into the shells and got stuck. It sucked. I'm sick with something bad and Tropic Thunder is gonna have to wait because I feel like crap. Have a good day. -GM
Re:Morita
Thanks, I'm feeling a little better. I was filling out some of the fictional firearms pages and I figured of all of them, you'd like the Morita page since I remembered you said you owned one. I deleted my page because yours came out better than mine. You know more about the movie any way, I have yet to see it fully and last time I saw it was too long ago to remember. -GM
- Nice SMLE pic! And I forgot to mention, the Colt Navy is beautiful. -GM
Bankok Dangerous
You made the page look much better now. Your shots are far clearer than mine. Thanks. -GM
Tropic Thunder
A Sporter II pic would be much apprieciated. To test the whole blank safety distance, I tested various blank calibers to a piece of paper and found 10 yards to be the dead zone. Since I'm trying to make a movie with a few friends of mine (maybe something to show a film school), I'm going to use some blanks and want to know my limits. Obviously, since I'm the only one with true experiance and weapons intelligence, I'll be handling the blanks, post-production edits on my computer will fill the rest. I'll try my best to make them look like they know what their doing with guns, but they are pretty dumb. If you have any movie making tips, please let me know.
- P.S. I plan to make it a DVD and might even screencap it as a section on my profile. -GM
Re:590
Go for it, fine by me. Your pics are always better than what we find on google. -GM
The new Cobray M11 picture
The new Cobray M11/9 picture looks really cool! Thanks so much for that! Also, do you think it's appropriate to classify the M11/9 under the MAC-10 page? I have been thinking about giving that guns its own page for a while now. What do you think? -MT2008 17:02, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
- First of all, I completely missed the MAC-11. I've just been getting busier and busier (currently at work - on a Saturday! - indexing prior art PDF files now), and you upload so many images that I've missed a few here and there. I did like the SG550, though, and the the AMD-65 pics were also something nice (it's cool that you found the same style BFA as the Israelis). But that Type 56 is just...ugh, who the hell treats a nice gun that way? (in Africa or Afghanistan, sure, but not here in the states!) It's odd because I had no clue that the Type 56 was imported to the U.S. back when Uncommon Valor was filmed (82-83). I remember hearing it wasn't until 1984 that they reached these shores.
- As far as the Cobray page goes, I know what you mean about the mistake, but then again, we have the Taurus PT92 page separate from the Beretta 92 page even though the PT92 is commonly mistaken for the 92F. The best thing to do would put a note at the top of the page suggesting people look at the Cobray page just in case.
- Appreciate the effort on the Thompson pics...like I said, we REALLY need some good ones. I hate the fact that someone put an Auto-Ordnance semi-auto Thompson clone with a long barrel to represent an "M1921". Also, from now on, whenever you upload pictures, please do the same thing you did with the Cobray; just upload them as a new version over the old ones. The way, we don't have to go back and replace the old image with your new image on every single page that has the old one. And like I said before, nobody should mind if you get rid of the old images, because yours are always better and you're an admin anyway. -MT2008 21:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, it makes sense, what you're saying. Were the Type 56s from Deer Hunter also the same as the ones from Uncommon Valor? I mean, let's face it...you don't see that many Chinese AKs (or AK-type firearms, period) in American movies before about the mid-80s. -MT2008 22:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
That Type 56
Holy shit, who handled that gun to make it that FUBAR?! One of my main jobs in my dad's shop is to clean up guns, so I understand how horrible that is. Mail it to me, I'll clean it up. -GM
Woah, that thing looks like it's 70 years old with every thing it been through. What did they do to it? I'll give it credit for one thing, that's a very good example of how durable and rugged an AK type assault rifle can be, especially with that kind of treatment.--Alienqueen11 02:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Couple of questions regarding Walther pistols
1) Has the current-generation P99 been converted or modified into a movie blank-firing gun that you know of? I ask because I see on the back cover of one of Wesley Snipes' DTV movies that he's holding one that appears to be a new-model P99, but it also looks like they took an UMAREX airsoft model and painted the tip black. Insight?
2) Word on a couple of forums is that the Walther PPS makes an appearance in Quantum of Solace, wielded by Olga Kurylenko. If possible, could you confirm? --Clutch 02:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know, but I will keep it in mind when I ask around. MPM2008
Request
Revolver here Just curious, could you get a good picture of the M4s used by the Air force in Iron Man? The ones with the ISM-V Scopes? Possibly other pictures from the movie? Like the G36Ks and G36Cs?
- I'll add it to the gigantic list of things to do. best regards. MPM2008
.577 Rifle
That would be awesome. Do you think you could one pic before he mounts a scope and one when he does? You'd have the best picture of such a rifle on the internet. Gunmaster45 00:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Another Request
I was wondering, would it be possible for you to get your hands on a stainless steel Jericho 941? There's at least a couple pages here such as The Kill Point and Transporter 2 that could benefit from it. I'm also still waiting for a 1st-gen Glock 19 (or whichever version of the 19 it is that doesn't have rails on the frame). Thanks in advance. Orca1 9904 21:29, 25 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
- I didn't know it was an order, rather than a request (re the Glock) and I don't have a 2nd gen of my own or I would have posted it already. I have to track down someone with one and take the time to do the photoshoot, a real hassle BTW. MoviePropMaster2008 23:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
About Png
Hi, for some strange reason VLC does not catches screenshots in jpg, only in png. In the future I will convert them in jpg before uploading. Fimvit
Re: Goldeneye
That's fine. In all honesty, it's a bad habit that I'm afraid I have, and I seem to be influencing other forum members to do it even though it does ruin the "encyclopedic" format of the pages, as you've said. I'll try to remember in the future; bad habits die hard for me. -MT2008 23:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Re:
I know, I had already changed the settings. Regardless, it takes the snapshots in png. Can't figure out why... Kind regards Fimvit
Crank
Hahahahahahaha, Blu-ray. I can't afford half a Blu-ray player. I'm still using DVDs, I guess this one just looks a little better. I've noticed some people use png files now, but they take too long to load and if you click on the image, it's just as clear as a jpg, so that's what I use. Thanks. Sorry I'm taking so long with it, I keep getting sidetracked. Go check out AQ11's profile talk and see my list of movies in my pile. Ugh. It's gonna be a long month. -GM
Thanks
Thanks so much for the new images (i.e. the USAS-12), and thanks for getting the Benelli shotgun page in order. It really needed an overall badly, and it's crazy that we never even had an entry anywhere for the M1 series before now. Also, nice work on Ultraviolet; I've had that DVD in my collection for a while, but, like a lot of movies, simply never got around to capping it. No matter; yours are better than mine would have been.
Hope you've had a great Thanksgiving! -MT2008 04:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I agree, the Molotov cocktail doesn't need a page. This is the Internet Movie Firearms Database, not the Internet Movie Weapons Database. Also, dunno if you saw, but some anonymous user tried to delete your user page, and has thus been nuked. -MT2008 22:14, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah, almost forgot...I'm not really sure how to see page views besides going to "Special Pages" (under Toolbox on the left side) and there's a "Popular pages" section, but that's not quite what you need... -MT2008 18:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Re: Molotovs
I understand what you mean fully but many pages link to the Molotov page and it's one of those mistakes that kind of has to be there now. I'm making The Whole Nine Yards as we speak and that had a molotov. I don't think it is a weapon deserving a spot but too many pages already have it and it's just easier if it is there. Gunmaster45 22:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Question about the SIGs from Double Team
First of all, nice job so far on the Double Team page, even though it's not yet complete.
Anyway, I was looking at this picture:
What type of laser controls are those on the grip of the SIGs? I ask because I've seen the same setup on a SIG P228 that Denzel Washington uses in the movie Virtuosity, and I was wondering who makes it. Or was it something done just for both movies? -MT2008 00:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
The Thompsons
YES! They're awesome. Thanks so much...we really needed some good pics of Thompson SMGs. -MT2008 18:12, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Response (Sorry for being late)
Thanks for wishing me a Happy Thanksgiving, I hope you had a great one as well. As for improvised weapons, I agree with you, Propane tanks even though they were made to be bombs shouldn't be listed as weapons. But I agree the molotov should stay since it's already a page for it and it's on quite a few pages. Also good work on Starship Troopers, the page looks great, and the Thompson pictures are great as well. Keep up the good work.--Alienqueen11 03:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Thompson
Sounds good to me, we need some Thompsons. - Gunmaster45 21:22, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- Please, in the future, never hesitate to replace the old pics with yours. Yours are always better, plus when you just upload over the old ones, we don't have to replace the gun pics on each movie/TV/video game page individually. -MT2008 23:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Good Job
Good job on replacing all the Thompsons, the new pictures look great. Also, are you still going to upload an M16A3? And also did some of the M16 type guns you uploaded come from Iraq? I mean like the M16A4, and the M4A1 with the scope and RIS Foregrip.--Alienqueen11 02:02, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Taegukgi
I can barely stand anime let alone flash animation shorts. I think it disrespects the hard work we do to screencap movies (and you great efforts to make sure we have images galore) and we have a page for some little short? I don't see why someone would watch it and wonder "Would someone like to know what guns are used in this?" Maybe if someone froze and capped the short it MIGHT be acceptable.
P.S I've been working on Wanted for 2 days, there are so many guns and continuity errors (guns switch to others in seconds), it is driving me crazy. While most I can figure out, some user input such as your own would be much apprieciated. I feel like I'm lying to the people who read my message at the top of the page that says "I'll have it done today" and can't because I busy. I hope they all understand. I'll make sure I give them the excellent page they've been waiting for (and get rid of the abismal bootleg images). - Gunmaster45
- I think at the very least, a re-direct is in order. The flash animation should be something like "Taegukgi (Flash Animation)". But personally, I'm really kinda skeptical of including stuff that's not professional media. Next thing we know, any kid who makes action movies with his friends and their airsoft guns is gonna try and make an IMFDB page. This is an even bigger problem with mods for first-person shooter games, because there are lots of user-made mods on the 'Net.
- That reminds me...when I get done with the GRE, I need to get the FAQ done that I've been meaning to do. Once I draft it, I would like all the Admins on here to take a look, and we should all agree on particular terms. In it, I will specify rules on stuff like including Flash Animation. -MT2008 04:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. I have already warned several users that I will not allow images from bootleg copies of movies not out on DVD to be posted on IMFDB, but I missed Tunnel Rats because I had no idea what it was or when it was coming out. -MT2008 21:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
- I also think Anime is ok because it is something licienced, and more official. It's like saying Anime is to films and TV shows is to Flash and Fan made shorts with their home cameras and posted on youtube. I mean, should we start looking up shorts that people film themselves and then upload on Youtube? I don't think so. It's annoying, kinda insulting and a waste of time at the same time to even think of it. I do some of the Anime because I believe how they draw the weapons make them worthy of mention and images worth showing to see how real they drew them. Excalibur01
Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page?
Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. Excalibur01
I can't be nice anymore
Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. Excalibur01 02:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
My airsoft
So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. Excalibur01 02:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Just the same, I know you can tell my ONE Glock is real over the others listed that aren't. I don't go to the range as often as I want. Bullets are expensive and so is renting time on the range closest to me. I only play with Airsoft because it's the only time where I get to shoot people and not feel the slightest remorse whatsoever. I'm killing them in a manner of speaking. I have ran into the types of guys that only knows Airsoft brand names. I on the other hand am really interested in the real life counter parts that inspires Airsoft, this is where I found out so much info on real guns...but I still have trouble telling Berettas from Taurus and between shotguns sometimes. Excalibur01 10:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
FN FAL
Could take a picture of an FN-FAL?Oliveira 00:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Re:Predator
Thanks, it wasn't on my list but I saw the page was incomplete so I made time for it. Sorry I edited your pictures, but it looks better than an empty spot for now.
Also, excellent job with the Uzi pic, it looks great. I too never liked that Uzi pic before. I just finished screencapping Unforgiven so be sure to check that out. - Gunmaster45
Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"
Do you think you could check your armory for a Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" rifle? Also, a lot of the ones in films are used as Henry rifles by removing the forend, the advantage being the lack of a spring follower pinching the shooter's hand. So if you do find a Yellow Boy, could you remove the forend and snap a shot of that as well? Thanks. - Gunmaster45
H&K USP and H&K MK 23
Could you replace the pictures of the H&K USP .45 and the H&K MK23 with better images. Thanks.
Type 84 Target/Match
So you finally got to take pictures of them. Nice! -MT2008 01:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)