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On the section about the Micro-Uzi, it says that it's unrealistic since it was first introduced in 1983. As far as I know, it was actually introduced in 1982, as it says on wikipedia and most sources I can find. Also many films as far back as 1985 show their useage ([[Invasion USA]] and [[Commando]]), so I doubt they were only known about for a couple of years before being so popular in civilian culture as to be placed in films. | On the section about the Micro-Uzi, it says that it's unrealistic since it was first introduced in 1983. As far as I know, it was actually introduced in 1982, as it says on wikipedia and most sources I can find. Also many films as far back as 1985 show their useage ([[Invasion USA]] and [[Commando]]), so I doubt they were only known about for a couple of years before being so popular in civilian culture as to be placed in films. | ||
Infact I even doubt the 1982 introduction date, as Israel and weapon secrecy seem to go hand-in-hand as well. | Infact I even doubt the 1982 introduction date, as Israel and weapon secrecy seem to go hand-in-hand as well. | ||
-Tec-9 | -[[User:Tec-9]] | ||
:The civilian version of the Micro Uzi (which is what you see in most American movies, including this one) was introduced to the American market in 1983. So, it would not have been around in 1982. As far as their appearances in mid-80s movies, that is actually common in Hollywood. The Desert Eagle was introduced in 1984 and shown immediately afterwards in ''[[Year of the Dragon]]'' and ''[[Commando]]'', both of which came out in 1985. A more extreme example that I documented was ''[[RoboCop 2]]'', which features the [[SIG-Sauer P228]] even though the P228 was introduced in 1990 (the same year that the movie came out). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] | :The civilian version of the Micro Uzi (which is what you see in most American movies, including this one) was introduced to the American market in 1983. So, it would not have been around in 1982. As far as their appearances in mid-80s movies, that is actually common in Hollywood. The Desert Eagle was introduced in 1984 and shown immediately afterwards in ''[[Year of the Dragon]]'' and ''[[Commando]]'', both of which came out in 1985. A more extreme example that I documented was ''[[RoboCop 2]]'', which features the [[SIG-Sauer P228]] even though the P228 was introduced in 1990 (the same year that the movie came out). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] | ||
::That explains it then - sorry about the edit then, feel free to revert it back. Thanks for the explanation too man - but just wondering whats the difference with the civilian version of the micro-uzi? Do you mean the semi-auto uzi pistol? Thanks. -[[User:Tec-9]] | |||
Revision as of 10:32, 17 May 2009
I just saw this movie again yesterday, there was no Steyr AUG in his container, it was a golden Hungarian AMD-65. - Flying Dane
- Actually, it wasn't a gold AMD-65, it was a nickel-plated Chinese Type-56 with ivory furniture and a Romanian-style folding grip. It's the same gun used in Belly. I had a picture of the gun on my Belly page when it still existed (before the server crash), but the picture of that gun is here: http://www.weaponspecialists.com/insiteTemplate.php?includeWhat=propView&id=160&category=&primaryCategory=ter&refID=20&cf=bpic
Orca, it is actually a MP5A4, i can see by the trigger group. The trigger groups of the MP5A2 and the MP5A4 are different. - Flying Dane
AKS74U
I don't think it's a 74u. the barrel seems too long and it doesn't have a triangular side folding stock (though that's not exactly definite). At the same time, the front sight and the flash hider look right. Plus, not to mention it's gold plated and the furniture looks strange to me. I think it looks more like an AKMS. Ah well, anybody see any of these things or am I just tired?
- It's probably a custom weapon that was assembled just for the film by the armorers. It is obviously not a 74U because that is a 7.62x39mm magazine (older style, before the ribbed versions), it has an East German-style side-folding stock, and a short barrel (AKMSU-style). You have to keep in mind that AKs can't all be classified so neatly (many countries have built their own versions, some of which are very different from the original Russian-made guns), which is one of the problems with this site. The best description I can give would be "custom-built Kalashnikov".
Poster Change
Is this poster better? - Gunmaster45
- Eh, not sure. I happen to prefer the older one just because it's a more creative design. But that's just me. -MT2008
- I just don't like it because it's a white poster, and the site's white background blend wierd and it looks ugly. But that's just me. - Gunmaster45
Micro-Uzi
On the section about the Micro-Uzi, it says that it's unrealistic since it was first introduced in 1983. As far as I know, it was actually introduced in 1982, as it says on wikipedia and most sources I can find. Also many films as far back as 1985 show their useage (Invasion USA and Commando), so I doubt they were only known about for a couple of years before being so popular in civilian culture as to be placed in films. Infact I even doubt the 1982 introduction date, as Israel and weapon secrecy seem to go hand-in-hand as well. -User:Tec-9
- The civilian version of the Micro Uzi (which is what you see in most American movies, including this one) was introduced to the American market in 1983. So, it would not have been around in 1982. As far as their appearances in mid-80s movies, that is actually common in Hollywood. The Desert Eagle was introduced in 1984 and shown immediately afterwards in Year of the Dragon and Commando, both of which came out in 1985. A more extreme example that I documented was RoboCop 2, which features the SIG-Sauer P228 even though the P228 was introduced in 1990 (the same year that the movie came out). -MT2008
- That explains it then - sorry about the edit then, feel free to revert it back. Thanks for the explanation too man - but just wondering whats the difference with the civilian version of the micro-uzi? Do you mean the semi-auto uzi pistol? Thanks. -User:Tec-9