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Revision as of 22:01, 5 December 2010
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That's Norman Reedus with the crossbow. He plays Daryl Dixon, who was not in the actual comic that I can recall. I like that though, he's a cool actor. I'm also a little bummed that they didn't use the guns drawn in the comics. Rick uses a HK mk.23. For those of you who might think that it's impossible to tell that from the comic the artist wrote HK MK.23 on the barrel. humanzie3
- I read some where that the Walker are attracted to loud noises. that might be why he is carrying a crossbow
It is smart to use a crossbow; because it saves on bullets and in most all undead literature and movies the undead always react and swarm when they hear a gunshot. Very good show, have never read the comic but look forward to.-GoshMr.Peabody
It's pretty amazing. I recommend buying the trade paperbacks. humanzie3
Whoa
I loved the comic, when the hell did it get a tv show?
The idea was revealed a while ago. It comes out on Halloween. -SasquatchJim
honestly , its like two hours till the show ,i cant wait. simmons 8492
Well it kept my interest. I'll watch it again next week to see if it can maintain the momentum.--Jcordell 18:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
honestly it took some time to realy get things going , but now hes in a populated zone with other survivers . and if i was him id start that tank up! simmons 8492
I coulda sworn the 50 on that tank was still loaded with ammo and in the next scene, it had no ammo Excalibur01 01:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Just watched it again. The .50 on the tank doesn't appear to be loaded, but there's another one in a sandbag fort that is, in the foreground as he goes by. -IGemini 04:15, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
iv watched it from the start and i have to say its great simmons 8492
Crappy dialogue
In the trailer, one of the cops told the other to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off. First off, the man he was talking to, had a Glock, so no safety. And since he's a trained cop, ready to open fire on a suspect that's hostile, why wouldn't he have a round in the chamber and his gun ready to go? That line just threw me off Excalibur01 22:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys, just watched it. Its brilliant, easily as good as the comic. The 'crappy dialogue above does jar a little tho. Hes telling him to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off as it is implied the officer in question is a bit useless, however after doing a brass check the officer in question then presses down on the slide release (even tho the slide is forward) as if to pretend it is the saftey catch. Morgan has a 5 shot snub revolver (which someone else will have to identify as im not too good with em). Rick pull a 92fs (standing in for an m9) from a dead soldiers shoulder holster at the end of the episode, and i'm fairly sure the SIG is a tutone P228 or 229 not a P239 --Captain Snikt 00:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
The funny thing about the thing with the safety is that you can hear the sound of a safety being click off.--Mattattack07 04:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Remember that the dialogue was written long before it was decided the cop would be holding a Glock(unless the writer is Michael Mann). So maybe the round in the chamber thing may have been unwarranted, but maybe he was a rookie, he did seem sort of skittish. Regardless, it's unfair to call that crappy dialogue. I think you're letting your knowledge of guns get in the way of enjoying good stories.--Mr-Jigsaw 04:32, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Dont know if its worth noting, but the cop he tells that too, is actually, the first zombie he ends up shooting, after leaving the police station. Rick commented he was careless and dumb, so reminding him, makes sense.
And, of course, Rick committed a cardinal sin; he referred to a magazine as a clip :P -SasquatchJim
I'm not surprised, Sasqatch. The cop I talked to called his Glock 17 a "Glock 9". I'm sure he would have said clip to. Not all cops are into guns. Haha
SIG P239
This doesn't look like a P239 to me; more like a P226 or P228. It's too big, and it has nickel controls (which the two-tone P239s don't have). -MT2008 01:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- P228 because of the slide length. --Predator20 01:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Remember, on low resolution screencaps like the ones I had to use, feel free to correct the Gun IDs. :) MoviePropMaster2008
- Watching the scene I agree that it is somewhat larger. Sounds fine to me - I'll change it. The first episode was pretty good. I'm adding a Beretta 92FS (M9) entry - Grimes indeed takes one off a 'dead' soldier inside the Abrams tank he gets into, as noted by the above section. Also, I never did get a good glance at the snub revolver, though I'm fairly certain it's a S&W. They're replaying the show so I'll keep an eye for it, and some of the other guns. StanTheMan 02:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Remember, on low resolution screencaps like the ones I had to use, feel free to correct the Gun IDs. :) MoviePropMaster2008
Spoiler Comment and Morgan's Revolver
Its nice to see the page updated but arn't some of the descriptions (mainly the colt python) a bit spoilerific for anyone who hasn't watched it yet? --Captain Snikt 04:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Whoa, yes they are, I sure as hell didn't add those. :b I'll reword them somewhat. Also! The revolver Morgan uses is a Snub S&W Model 66, I can almost guarantee it. Bah, wish I could get screencaps. Still, I'll add that as well. StanTheMan 04:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Are you sure its a 66? I remember it having a 5 round cylinder --Captain Snikt 04:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
I grabbed this off my skyplus box so sorry bout the quality [IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2i700fm.jpg[/IMG] Any use, its definatly a 5 shot--Captain Snikt 04:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- I could have sworn it was a S&W. But it's definitely not a Model 66, since there's no rear adj. sights, nor of course a 6-shot cylinder. But Smith snubbie J-frames (5-shot) all have flat 'bull-nose' ejector rod shrouds, not curved. Bah, now I'm kinda stumped. My best guess at this point would probably be a Ruger SP101. Convert that image there to JPG and upload it on the site. It's not great, but it's better than nothing. StanTheMan 05:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Looks like it could also be either the Taurus Model 617 or possibly a stainless steel Taurus Model 85. Biu it is difficult.--Jcordell 12:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
From the barrel it looks like an early Taurus Model 85 in stainless or nickel plated. It was a five shot cylinder definitely.GaBoy45 17:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- After posting I did consider it being a Taurus, many of them are awfully S&W looking to begin with. I doubt it's a 617 but it easily could be an 85. Hell, could be anything for all I know at this point. I guess it'll just be another 'unidentified' until we get more/better screencaps. I'll modify the S&W 66 entry I posted and just call it un-ID'd snub revolver, noting the 5-shot capacity and stating the possible choices. StanTheMan 17:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
I am almost certain it is actually a Ruger SP101, two inch model. No other snubbie, as far as I know, has the upper rear of the frame shaped into a rear sight notch like the SP101, as both of those Taurus models just lack rear sights - you can check the Taurus website as both models lack a "rear sight" category under specifications. Also, if you check out the behind the scenes vid here, there is a pretty decent side shot of the revolver. The general shape is very close to a SP101, and even from the front, the lines on Morgan's triggerguard and barrel are cut much closer semi-melted look on the SP than the very sharp ones on a Taurus oR S&W.
All said, the easiest way to tell would be if they showed the damned cylinder release at some point. --John 234 07:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC) (Corrected typo --John 234 02:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC))
- It's not an SP101. The recoil shield shown is a simple traditional shape, not the bulkier contours Rugers have in that part of the frame. Also, the ejector rod shroud is cut back more sharply from the muzzle, and the revolver in the show seems to lack the small hole on the front of the frame for the front crane lock. Rule .303 14:56, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Judging by the screens uploaded I'd say definately not a 617, 617 is a 7-shot, also can't see a ported barrel. Still think it's a Taurus though. ZombieKiller 09:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
What kind of tank was that?
Its oviously a stand-in for an M-1 but I'm not sure what it is. I'm thinking possibly a Chieftain, but I'm not sure. Also, note that a real M-1 woulnd't have worked for the scene since it lacks the floor escape hatch.
-AC.
At this point I'm not sure, but I do suspect it's the same tank that shows up in Zombieland. Both shows are filmed in Georgia and the voice-over commentary on Zombieland states that the tank is owned by a private collector.--Jcordell 16:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Definately a Chieftain.
- I concur, Chieftains are often used (mocked-up) as stand-ins for Abrams tanks. I also noticed the bottom escape hatch, which as far as I can recall, indeed isn't on an actual Abrams. StanTheMan 23:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Other comments posted on main page-
(Perhaps it is just me, but the Abrams featured in this appears to be a mocked up British Chieftain Tank, I didn't get a good look at the tank but it didn't seem to be a genuine Abrams, although it could simply be an older pattern M1 without the TUSK upgrade, reactive armor and the more apparent loaders hatch. Yet that would not explain the escape hatch.- Doc345)
Older M1s didn't look that diffrent, from the later ones, aside from the most recent upgardes.
Also, the angle of the frontal turret armor is wrong to be an M1.
I think this may be the same tank which appeared in, among other series, Jericho. The vehicle, if I remember correctly, is built on an old Centurion chasis to resemble an Abrams with some obvious differences. --Charon68 00:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
On a random note, where was a Striker seen in the episode? It says on the page that there was one with a fifty cal on it, but aside from the tank, the only other military vehicles I saw where some HMMWVs, what looked like a deuce, and a half, and some abandone Hueys.
Intrestingly, in the trailor, the one Rick first sees after leaving the hospital lacked a rotor blade making me think it was edited in post-production. Also, the one off to Ricks left appears to still be lacking one.
-AC
at the begging seen when the main cerictor walkes out of the hospital he sees a ebandoned military equpent you can see a Stryker IFV --Armyguy277 21:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
heres a picture
I can say without a doubt that the 'M1' is a Chieftain, not a Centurion. The long sloping frontal 'nose' armour, the front idler wheel and the lockers/storage bins are features of the Chieftain, not the Centurion. Not too sure about the 'escape hatch' though. I wonder if this is the same 'M1' that appears in the 2010 remake of Red Dawn? It looks the same to me. Spanner
Things I noticed
Did anybody else notice that when Morgan cocked the hammer back on his gun and threatened to shoot Grimes if he didn't talk, the cylinder didn't advance to the next chamber like it should?
And what about Grimes' personal arsenal in his backpack? Is it safe to assume that rubber/resin mockups? He was getting bounced pretty hard by that horse and the guns kept bumping him in the back. That's at least 40 pounds of gear to be carrying around.
More than safe to assume that. Most of them even appeared to have solid barrels. Probably rubber.--99.48.50.70 04:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
The cylinder did rotate, I remembered that happening when I watched the scene. As far as the bag -o- guns, I have no idea. If they were all rubber, they were modeled after some hard to find shotgun configurations and looked very real. --Yournamehere 20:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
According to Grimes in episode 3 his duffle bag was holding six shotguns, two "high powered" rifles, a dozen handguns, and 700 rounds of assorted ammo. That's easily 80-90 pounds of gear. There's no way Grimes could be carrying that around in one hand with a gas can in the other. Or getting bucked and having the bag sag to the side and the stuff not come falling out.
Did anybody else notice that Dale seemed to switch between carrying a rifle with a sling, to carrying one without a sling between scenes?
I rewatched the first episode.
Two of the Sheriffs deputys from the neighboring county had shotguns. One looked like and 870 Remington. The other looked like a Mossberg.
The gun used to shoot Rick, I'm pretty sure was either 1911, or a Glock. It seemed to have an extended slide.
-AC
- I noticed the shotguns too but it was hard to get a decent look at them, mainly the second one (Mossberg I guess). I will concur at least one of the other shotguns was indeed a standard 870. No idea what the pistol is/was. StanTheMan 16:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Almost positive the other two deputys, from the neighboring county had Glocks, like the other deputys from Ricks department.
You can see one of the shotguns fairly well, after Rick gots shot, one of the two deputys joins Shane in trying to help Rick. Like Shane, he drops his gun, and it can be seen fairly well.
Looking at the pick on here, I'm more positive than ever that the last gunmans weapon was a 1911. Good eye on my part, since it was litreally visible for like less than a second.-AC.
Andrea's gun
I believe Andrea is packing a Smith and Wesson 3913 Ladysmith humanzie3
- I concur. -Winn
Here's a good picture. http://blogs.amctv.com/photo-galleries/the-walking-dead-season-1-episode-photos/episode-2-rick-andrea.php humanzie3
- I also agree about it being a 3913 Ladysmith. We also saw a M67 'baseball' grenade in this latest episode (actually the training version, you could still spot some blue paint on it). StanTheMan 05:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
What kind of rifle did Meryl have?
Looked like possibly a Model 70, but I'm bad at identifing bolt actions. -AC
Seriously, does anyone know what kind of rifle he had?-AC
Compare the bolt heads (or whatever the end of the bolt closest to the butt is called); the Remington 700 seems to have more of a protruding portion, while the Mod. 70 is tucked in and more square-like.
At least, that's what it seems like. There used to be a generic page for comparing Bolt-Action Rifles, like the shotguns have now. Where did that page go?
Here it is.
Scoped Bolt Action Hunting Rifles. --Jcordell 01:52, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Shane's Pistol
Can anyone identify the pistol Shane is carrying? It looks like either a Glock or possibly a Sig Pro. humanzie3
Probally a Gock. There very common cop guns, in both hollywood, and real life. Also, severael of the cops, at opening shootout had them, so evedently the prophouse they went to had some. -AC
Definitely a Glock. Although it's only shown briefly, it looks like a 17. He carries it in a thumb break holster.
Picture of him holding it: http://blogs.amctv.com/photo-galleries/the-walking-dead-season-1-episode-photos/episode-4-carl-lori-shane-morales.php
After looking at the screenshot on the main page, can anyone identify the holster?
Merle
It's Merle not Maryl or Marle
Guts
I really like how Rick actually checks the dead soldier's vest for more ammo instead of just taking the weapon like every other film. I also like how when his Beretta runs dry he doesn't toss it away like some generic action hero but he keeps it and stows it in Glenn's backpack. --AdAstra2009 02:03, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Oh yeah, that was good stuff. Have yet to see the Beretta again though. humanzie3
- Did you also notice that his Colt Python is still in his hoslter even though he ran out of ammo for it? I liked that touch as well. --Jcordell 14:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
You never know what you might find ammo for at a latter date.-AC
- Which he does in the third episode. Anyway Python's are too expensive to be tossing away on a whim. Even after the Zombie Apocalypse has happened. --Jcordell 17:32, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
If I recall right they've been outta production since the late 90s.
- The last Python was manufactured approximately six years ago. --Jcordell 18:30, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Still outta production than. If I recall right, for a while it was outta generael production, but could be special ordered.
Yes the last five or six years it had to be ordered through the custom shop.--Jcordell 01:54, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
The Python, and The Anaconda, where the best revolvers Colt made since the SAA imho-AC
IMO, the Official Police and Detective Special should be included as well. -SasquatchJim
Too bad that still fully loaded .50 next to the tank is too heavy to take back Excalibur01 23:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
If he can walk and ride a horse with a 90lb bag on his back like its nothing, he could carry a M2.--FIVETWOSEVEN 01:44, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
And he brought buddies with him to GET that bag he left behind. They can lug around an M2 with ammo. Sure it doesn't look like there's any extra, but it's an M2 with AMMO! Excalibur01 03:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
But honestly, what would be the purpose, in this story? I mean, they're already getting guns and ammo, and it's not like you need a lot of penetration to kill a zombie, so they don't really need a .50 caliber machinegun. All it would really do was kill a couple of zombies while making a shitload of noise, attracting every zombie in a mile radius. Acora 05:04, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- I bet one would've come in handy on top of the camper during the attack on the camp. That's One Angry Duck 04:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Possibly (I posted that before I saw that episode, sorry.), though I doubt any of them have any training or even any practice with military grade machine guns, and so I'm betting that during the chaos of the attack, they would have killed more of their own people. Acora 02:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Vatos
Ok, tonight I think I've seen a S&W model 10, a Colt Detective Special, and possibly a S&W mosel 28 in the hands of the mexican gangsters and it looks like T-Dog was using a BAR. The bag had some Sigs and Glocks and Daryl had a Remington 870 and I think that Rick is using a Mossberg 590 not a 500. humanzie3
Just so everyone knows, I didn't edit the page tonight, I just wrote on here. humanzie3
Daryl took at least one Sig from the bag. T-Dog used a Mossberg later, but I think his scoped rifle was a BAR. The shotty Glenn ended up with, looked the same as Daryl's. Also, Shane drew his pistol at one point, but it was hard to see.-AC
Daryl's Crossbow
Daryl Dixon's crossbow is a Horton Scout HD 125: http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2817217&cid=CSE:GoogleProductSearch. In the fourth episode "Vatos", when Daryl points it a T-dog on the roof you can see the faded Horton logo on the front. Scout 125 can be seen above the trigger after the camera angle changes.
- Picture added and changes made. --Jcordell 19:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Was that an XD?
The handgun, that Daryl takes from the bag of guns. At first I thought it was a SIG, but after rewatching it, I think it may have been a Springfield Army XD. -AC
Nope, definitely a bi-tone Sig of some kind.
Yeah, the XDs don't have all that stuff on the side of the gun and the slide is actually more Glock like than the more rounder Sig slides Excalibur01 17:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- ZeoRanger5 17:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
that looks like a SIG-sauer P226 or P228. simmons 8492
I agree with simmons 8492, i'd say p228 myself.
How did you think that was an XD?--Jackie.45Cal 14:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Not sure. When I stuck it in his waistband, it looked like a combination between a Sig, and a Glock. As far as handguns go, I'd say the XD is closest to that description. Course I was rather sleep deprived at the time.-AC
i also think that in episode 5 shane pulls what looks to be a sig when the sister is coming back to life . im not sure because i know shane has a glock but this isnt in the holster , its carried mexican style and is only seen for seconds. can some one verify ? simmons 8492
Faking recoil
Its a littlle overdone but nice to see it (a HP in 9mm doesnt kick as much as shown, but its better than most shows, and handling is pretty good or tv.
may be because he hasent realy fired a 9mm in a while he wasnt use to it or because hes used to the revovler
DShK heavy machine gun?
I believe there was an abandoned DShK heavy machine gun flanked by sandbags when they headed towards the CDC building by the looks of the muzzle. (This was the best episode so far, I think.) - Angel_956
Most likely a mocked up M2 but I definatly saw that distinct muzzle brake.--FIVETWOSEVEN 18:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
I added a cap but you cannot really tell one way or another if it is a mock up or not. Either way...it makes no sense for it to be there in the first place!!! --Charon68 23:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
That's exactly what I was thinking. Why would an outdated Soviet Union machine gun even be in the show, but it might be cleared up in the next episode. I clearly remember the guy in the CDC building saying something about some French soilders, I think. If so it might of meant that there was an international response to the zombie outbreak, trying to control it, explaining the DShK. Angel_956
- Now your just over-analyzing, it's in all likeliness what they used because it's what was available to use when they were shooting the scene. --AdAstra2009 05:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Weird though, since they oviously had M2s available for filming.-AC
- Not necessarily. Armorers can change during filming and weapons may not be available even though they were previously. Also remember that only the first episode had the M2 so the armorer could have changed since then. --AdAstra2009 22:43, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Daryl's knife
In the third episode, when Daryl is told about his brother, he attacks Rick with some sort of hunting or combat knife. He's later seen with it in a sheath on his left thigh, and you get a fairly close (But very brief) look at it when they're walking through the building at the beginning of the forth episode. Anyone have any clue what it is? I mean, from the brief glimpse I got of it in the forth episode, it looked like it was possibly a TOPS Steel Eagle 107C, the same kind of knife that the character Royce had sheathed in Predators, but I'm not sure. Can anyone confirm, or give an alternative? Acora 07:42, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
What kind of gun did he give Morales?
He said it was a .357, but I have no idea what it was.-AC
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He held it in his hand for a profile shot; maybe you should try screencapping it at that point and going from there. There should be an ID for it though, unlike Morgan's snubnose.
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I lack the equipment needed to screencap.-AC
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Use IrfanView (freeware) or the PrtScn button on your computer (press it on the frame you want to capture, and then paste it into Paint to crop it).
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Rick's second shotgun.
After Rick gives the 590 (it wasn't a 500, someone should change that) to Guillermo, he uses one with an 18 inch barrel, a blued type finish and wood furniture. I think some people commented on it being a Mossberg, but it has a rounded bolt like a Remington 870. However, it's not an 870 since the trigger guard isn't round enough, the magazine tube is longer than the standard 4 shot tube, and it doesn't have an extension attached, and the wood furniture has a single rib on the side for gripping. After doing some research, my best guess is that it's an earlier H&R Pardner Pump, possibly in some sort of police configuration. I know it's neither a Mossberg or a Remington, though.
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I'd PrtScn/screencap the shotgun in question before making any comparisons. We still haven't definitively IDed Dale's bolt-action, so maybe you should get one of that as well.
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We still have Merles bolt-action as well. -AC
Think its funny
Rick misses several close range shots (so do long gun toting officers) in the beginning against chase suspects, then later in series hes nailing headshots left and right....
Noticed that too, although zombies don't shoot back. They just charge straight ahead.
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It's a screenplay-direction thing. The show is already a bit overdramatized in general, so little things like the 'clip' and 'safety' dialogue or the headshot ratio aren't really all that important to the screenwriters, at least not compared with inserting dramatic bits into it.
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Question about Shane's shotgun technique
Just a question for those who may know, is it considered proper technique to hold the gun that high on the shoulder, with his cheek resting on the receiver? I figuered it was an adjustmant made due to the M4-style stock, as Rick and other survivors wielding unmodified weapons don't do this.
- I noticed that too, I figured it was just the actor's preference (possibly due to inexperience) but I guess it could be because of the M4 stock. I dunno. That's One Angry Duck 01:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- It's standard practice in the US military. They teach you to ride the stock high so that your sights are level with your eyes. Spartan198 13:56, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Thats with the M16/M4, not a shotgun.--FIVETWOSEVEN 20:58, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- the stock on the shotgun is a Knoxx Industries SpecOps NRS Shotgun Stock