Talk:Predator 2: Difference between revisions
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:Definitely a laser sight. A scope would have a much wider lens on the other end. All of the detectives in this movie seem to carry pistols with laser sights.
:Definitely a laser sight. A scope would have a much wider lens on the other end. All of the detectives in this movie seem to carry pistols with laser sights.
But the desert eagle have the wires in a strange position, the spent shells would hit the wires, or not ?
-Schiebi86-
==Change your images to JPEGS not PNGs==
==Change your images to JPEGS not PNGs==
Who ever is doing this is making this page REALLY SLOW TO LOAD. I've given up already and my connection isn't that slow. On three other computers, people just gave up and left this page because it was too slow to load. Those images range from 500-700 KBs EACH!!!! Stop with the PNGS. Use some sort of image editing software and convert it to JPEG! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Who ever is doing this is making this page REALLY SLOW TO LOAD. I've given up already and my connection isn't that slow. On three other computers, people just gave up and left this page because it was too slow to load. Those images range from 500-700 KBs EACH!!!! Stop with the PNGS. Use some sort of image editing software and convert it to JPEG! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:How do i convert it to JPEG?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:How do i convert it to JPEG?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::You can just go to MSPaint or any other program, open up the image, hit "Save As", and then save it as a JPEG from there.
::Also, I see that you use VLC Media Player to take your screencaps. In the future, you don't need to convert images at all; VLC will take them in JPEG if you work with the settings. All you have to do is go to "Settings", then "Preferences", and then "Video". You'll see an option that reads "Video snapshot format"; just change it from PNG to JPEG and from now on, any movie you watch and screencap with VLC will have shots saved to JPEG format. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:48, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry guys,i din´t mean to screw up.I going to screencap the movie again.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:08, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
== Bill Paxtons' Gun==
What was the handgun carried by Bill Paxton. Like almost every other handgun in the movie it has a laser sight on it but I could never really get a good look at it. I think it might have been a 1911 but I'm not sure.
:It's a silver plated P226 or P220.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
==This Page==
Ok guys. I'm really sorry for fucking up this page but when i'm done with We Were Soldiers i am going to finish this page. I'm really sorry guys, i am really sorry.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:I've already started some work on the page for you; added a poster and done a bit of cleanup. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
::Thank you Orca.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
== Revolvers ==
Did anybody notice during the penthouse scene one of the Jamaicans was wielding a pair of gold plated revolvers with ivory grips does anybody know what they are?
== not a 4506 ==
I think that Rubén Blades uses as a sidearm a 645 and not a 4506
== Golden revolvers and unidentified AK47 derivative rifle. ==
I've added two new entries. One featuring the Jamaican gangster with his golden revolvers, the other shows a variant of AK47 which I cannot identify. So if any of you can learn anything from those photos be my guest and try to identify them :) [[User:Dudster32|Dudster32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 12:28, 26 February 2013 (EST)
:The gold revolver looks like the one from ''[[Dirty]]'' and ''[[Parks and Recreation]]''. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:40, 26 February 2013 (EST)
==Unknown Twin Barrel Rifle==
Used by Peter Keyes' ([[Gary Busey]]) government agents who attempt to hunt down the Predator in the abattoir. It has side-by-side barrels.
Can anyone get a screencap of this? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:33, 26 February 2013 (EST)
==Pics of twin barrel rifle (unidentified)==
Here are a few shots of the unidentified doublebarrel rifle. Note the recoil/flash dampener thingies.
My amateur view is that this is a hollywood-made weapon and not an existing one. [[User:Dudster32|Dudster32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 12:37, 26 February 2013 (EST)
[[Image:Predator 2, doublebarrel 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Rear of weapon]]
[[Image:Predator 2, doublebarrel 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rifle seen in the hands on the man to the right]]
[[Image:Predator 2, doublebarrel 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the two barrels in the center]]
[[Image:Predator 2, doublebarrel 4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The two-barrel weapon bringing up the rear.]]
===Cyborg cop 3?===
The rifle was used again in Cyborg cop 3, looks like though.
==Colt MkIV Series 70==
[[Image:Pred2 026.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An MK IV Series 70 fitted with a first series of production Laser Products 310R tactical light (first type ever produced) is seen in Harrigan's trunk.]]
It's ID'd as a standard-size Series 70, but the front dust cover and slide look a wee bit short - I think this is a Commander variant. It looks identical in length to the other Commander below it in the frame. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 18:40, 22 March 2015 (EDT)
== HMG with spade grips ==
What are the two HMG's on the left of Harrigan in this pic?
: The one on the right looks to be an M2HB, which would make sense as one is listed on the page. The other one is definitely a smaller gun, the top cover style/look makes me think it is an M60 variant. Also, though it's tough to tell, that one AK looks like it has a hooded front sight, which would make it a Type 56 rather than an AKM. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 23:52, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
The smaller one is an [[M60D]]. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 12:39, 11 August 2015 (EDT)
== SIG in Harrigan's trunk ==
Originally ID'd as a Nickel P226 (probably originally supposed that it was the same one Paxton uses later), the clearly has the shorter slide. As such the ID was changed to a P228, but looking close the grip looks a bit off and more importantly it doesn't seem to have the frame bulge, so I'm thinking this might actually be a nickel [[SIG-Sauer P225]] rather than a P228. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 01:58, 12 August 2015 (EDT)
== The boxes shown in the armory. ==
This is beyond the call of duty (so to speak) and probably not worth mentioning it in the article itself. But just out of curiosity: does anyone know what the two lenghty boxes contain? Could they contain some sort of missile judging by its shape?
(They are just behind the M60 on the bottom left.) [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 13:49, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
[[File:Pred2 318.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
:I believe that they are boxes for Redeye missile launchers. I seem to remember that these same boxes have appeared in several other films but cant think of one might now. This boxes might be what the made up missile launcher from Die Hard is transported in.--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:57, 17 August 2015 (EDT)
::Found the page I was thinking of. In [[Devil's_Own,_The#Trivia|Devil's Own]] there is a closeup of some crates supposedly containing Stingers, however the markings state that it is an M41 which is the designation for the Redeye launcher. [[File:DO-Stinger-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]][[Navy_SEALs#FIM-43_Redeye|Navy SEALs]] also features a Redeye launcher in its crate, once again being described as a Stinger. I think these crates are relatively common on the surplus market so they do pop up now and again. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:13, 17 August 2015 (EDT)
:::So these guys had anti-tank missile and anti-aircraft abilities, plus all the other hardware. Harrigan wasn't kidding when he said it was a "war in the streets". [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 11:59, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
::::Well, they had the '''boxes''' for anti-aircraft missiles, that is all we know for sure. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:52, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
== Heckler & Koch G3A3? ==
I've been going over the intro sequence featuring the G3 rifles used by both the police and the columbians. The article right now ID the rifle as the G3A3.
I've just noticed that as far as I can see, none of the rifles has the "paddle" magazine release, only button release. Isn't the button release a HK 91 exclusive? Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm not too familiar with the HK 91. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 14:44, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
[[File:Pred2_2008.jpg|thumb|none|400px|(zoom)]]
Yeah, it probably is an HK91 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 15:31, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
:Glad it's not just me then. I'm gonna go ahead and create a new HK91 section and try and figure out which rifles are 91 and G3 respectively :P. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 15:50, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
:: You're right, if it doesn't have the paddle release they can't be legit G3A3s. I'd say the lot are probably all HK91A2s. There are several seen firing fully automatic though, however those could just be conversions. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 01:52, 24 September 2016 (EDT)
Its very difficult to spot the paddle, or lack of, but I'm fairly sure at least two of the Columbians weapons does not have them. Also note that the Columbians G3 variant has tanned forward grip and stock while the Police G3 has all black. The Columbians also has a different forward grip than the Police.
Besides that: The Columbians forward grip, plus the color, looks like this G3 variant below but still no paddle on the movie version.
[[File:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|)]]
[[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 14:19, 24 September 2016 (EDT)
: Probably still HK91s, just the ones used by gang members have the OD colored stocks and 'slim' foregrips while the police have ones with black 'wide' foregrips and stocks - The furniture's interchangeable, I'm sure. The different aesthetic between the sets of rifles was likely an intentional bit of production design. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 17:16, 24 September 2016 (EDT)
The Scope could be a Laserpointer. Look at the Wires.
Definitely a laser sight. A scope would have a much wider lens on the other end. All of the detectives in this movie seem to carry pistols with laser sights.
But the desert eagle have the wires in a strange position, the spent shells would hit the wires, or not ?
-Schiebi86-
Change your images to JPEGS not PNGs
Who ever is doing this is making this page REALLY SLOW TO LOAD. I've given up already and my connection isn't that slow. On three other computers, people just gave up and left this page because it was too slow to load. Those images range from 500-700 KBs EACH!!!! Stop with the PNGS. Use some sort of image editing software and convert it to JPEG! MoviePropMaster2008 19:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
How do i convert it to JPEG?Oliveira 20:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
You can just go to MSPaint or any other program, open up the image, hit "Save As", and then save it as a JPEG from there.
Also, I see that you use VLC Media Player to take your screencaps. In the future, you don't need to convert images at all; VLC will take them in JPEG if you work with the settings. All you have to do is go to "Settings", then "Preferences", and then "Video". You'll see an option that reads "Video snapshot format"; just change it from PNG to JPEG and from now on, any movie you watch and screencap with VLC will have shots saved to JPEG format. -MT2008 20:48, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry guys,i din´t mean to screw up.I going to screencap the movie again.Oliveira 13:08, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Bill Paxtons' Gun
What was the handgun carried by Bill Paxton. Like almost every other handgun in the movie it has a laser sight on it but I could never really get a good look at it. I think it might have been a 1911 but I'm not sure.
It's a silver plated P226 or P220.-Oliveira 20:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
This Page
Ok guys. I'm really sorry for fucking up this page but when i'm done with We Were Soldiers i am going to finish this page. I'm really sorry guys, i am really sorry.-Oliveira 20:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
I've already started some work on the page for you; added a poster and done a bit of cleanup. Orca1 9904 20:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Did anybody notice during the penthouse scene one of the Jamaicans was wielding a pair of gold plated revolvers with ivory grips does anybody know what they are?
not a 4506
I think that Rubén Blades uses as a sidearm a 645 and not a 4506
Golden revolvers and unidentified AK47 derivative rifle.
I've added two new entries. One featuring the Jamaican gangster with his golden revolvers, the other shows a variant of AK47 which I cannot identify. So if any of you can learn anything from those photos be my guest and try to identify them :) Dudster32 (talk) 12:28, 26 February 2013 (EST)
Used by Peter Keyes' (Gary Busey) government agents who attempt to hunt down the Predator in the abattoir. It has side-by-side barrels.
Can anyone get a screencap of this? --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:33, 26 February 2013 (EST)
Pics of twin barrel rifle (unidentified)
Here are a few shots of the unidentified doublebarrel rifle. Note the recoil/flash dampener thingies.
My amateur view is that this is a hollywood-made weapon and not an existing one. Dudster32 (talk) 12:37, 26 February 2013 (EST)
The rifle was used again in Cyborg cop 3, looks like though.
Colt MkIV Series 70
Error creating thumbnail: File missingAn MK IV Series 70 fitted with a first series of production Laser Products 310R tactical light (first type ever produced) is seen in Harrigan's trunk.
It's ID'd as a standard-size Series 70, but the front dust cover and slide look a wee bit short - I think this is a Commander variant. It looks identical in length to the other Commander below it in the frame. StanTheMan (talk) 18:40, 22 March 2015 (EDT)
HMG with spade grips
What are the two HMG's on the left of Harrigan in this pic?
M60? .50 Cal? Dudester32 (talk) 15:34, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
The one on the right looks to be an M2HB, which would make sense as one is listed on the page. The other one is definitely a smaller gun, the top cover style/look makes me think it is an M60 variant. Also, though it's tough to tell, that one AK looks like it has a hooded front sight, which would make it a Type 56 rather than an AKM. StanTheMan (talk) 23:52, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
The smaller one is an M60D. Spartan198 (talk) 12:39, 11 August 2015 (EDT)
SIG in Harrigan's trunk
Originally ID'd as a Nickel P226 (probably originally supposed that it was the same one Paxton uses later), the clearly has the shorter slide. As such the ID was changed to a P228, but looking close the grip looks a bit off and more importantly it doesn't seem to have the frame bulge, so I'm thinking this might actually be a nickel SIG-Sauer P225 rather than a P228. StanTheMan (talk) 01:58, 12 August 2015 (EDT)
The boxes shown in the armory.
This is beyond the call of duty (so to speak) and probably not worth mentioning it in the article itself. But just out of curiosity: does anyone know what the two lenghty boxes contain? Could they contain some sort of missile judging by its shape?
(They are just behind the M60 on the bottom left.) Dudester32 (talk) 13:49, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
I believe that they are boxes for Redeye missile launchers. I seem to remember that these same boxes have appeared in several other films but cant think of one might now. This boxes might be what the made up missile launcher from Die Hard is transported in.--commando552 (talk) 18:57, 17 August 2015 (EDT)
Found the page I was thinking of. In Devil's Own there is a closeup of some crates supposedly containing Stingers, however the markings state that it is an M41 which is the designation for the Redeye launcher. Error creating thumbnail: File missingNavy SEALs also features a Redeye launcher in its crate, once again being described as a Stinger. I think these crates are relatively common on the surplus market so they do pop up now and again. --commando552 (talk) 19:13, 17 August 2015 (EDT)
So these guys had anti-tank missile and anti-aircraft abilities, plus all the other hardware. Harrigan wasn't kidding when he said it was a "war in the streets". Dudester32 (talk) 11:59, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
Well, they had the boxes for anti-aircraft missiles, that is all we know for sure. --commando552 (talk) 12:52, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
Heckler & Koch G3A3?
I've been going over the intro sequence featuring the G3 rifles used by both the police and the columbians. The article right now ID the rifle as the G3A3.
I've just noticed that as far as I can see, none of the rifles has the "paddle" magazine release, only button release. Isn't the button release a HK 91 exclusive? Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm not too familiar with the HK 91. Dudester32 (talk) 14:44, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
Yeah, it probably is an HK91 Excalibur01 (talk) 15:31, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
Glad it's not just me then. I'm gonna go ahead and create a new HK91 section and try and figure out which rifles are 91 and G3 respectively :P. Dudester32 (talk) 15:50, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
You're right, if it doesn't have the paddle release they can't be legit G3A3s. I'd say the lot are probably all HK91A2s. There are several seen firing fully automatic though, however those could just be conversions. StanTheMan (talk) 01:52, 24 September 2016 (EDT)
Its very difficult to spot the paddle, or lack of, but I'm fairly sure at least two of the Columbians weapons does not have them. Also note that the Columbians G3 variant has tanned forward grip and stock while the Police G3 has all black. The Columbians also has a different forward grip than the Police.
Here are two new screens I took.
Probably still HK91s, just the ones used by gang members have the OD colored stocks and 'slim' foregrips while the police have ones with black 'wide' foregrips and stocks - The furniture's interchangeable, I'm sure. The different aesthetic between the sets of rifles was likely an intentional bit of production design. StanTheMan (talk) 17:16, 24 September 2016 (EDT)
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