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==Additional Variants== | ==Additional Variants== | ||
[[Image:Winchester-1894-Lonestar-Commemorative.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Winchester-1894-Lonestar-Commemorative.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 Lonestar Commemorative lever action rifle with gold receiver and accents (with commemorative medallion in the buttstock) - .30-30.]] | ||
[[Image:Mossberg 464 Centerfire.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mossberg Model 464 curved stock model - .30-30Win.]] | |||
[[Image:Mossberg464spx.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mossberg Model 464 SPX - .30-30Win.]] | |||
[[Image:RossiR92.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rossi R92 - .357 Magnum.]] | |||
==Ali Larter== | ==Ali Larter== | ||
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== Mossberg 464 == | == Mossberg 464 == | ||
I think we should give the Mossberg 464 it's own page, it's actually a very different rifle than the Winchester. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]] | I think we should give the Mossberg 464 it's own page, it's actually a very different rifle than the Winchester. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]] | ||
I propose that the Mossberg 464 be removed from Imfdb because it has been misidentified in all 3 movies listed here.=[[User:LJ|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ|talk]]) 17:52, 21 July 2019 (EDT) | |||
:Not necessarily; we still have a couple confirmed appearances of the SPX variant (e.g. ''[[Cross Fire]]'', ''[[State of Decay]]'', ''[[Killing Floor 2]]'', etc.), so it should stay. Plus, even if that wasn't the case, it wouldn't be "removed from IMFDB"; the general policy in these situations is to put it in the discussion page, info and all, in case it pops up later. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 00:12, 22 July 2019 (EDT) P.S.: Reminds me, I was planning to do some more work on "CF''. Maybe I will at some point in the future. | |||
==Caliber== | ==Caliber== | ||
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.38-55, I think. -SasquatchJim. | .38-55, I think. -SasquatchJim. | ||
:.32-40 and .38-55 originally, followed by .25-35 and | :.32-40 and .38-55 originally, followed by .25-35 and .30-30 in 1895. The .32 Special was introduced in 1901. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]] | ||
Were any of those smokeless rounds or was the .30-30 the first smokeless rifle round Winchester used? -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] | Were any of those smokeless rounds or was the .30-30 the first smokeless rifle round Winchester used? -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] | ||
:.32-40 and .38-55 were both black powder rounds, originally introduced by Ballard for use in single-shot rifles. Both had previously been chamberings of the Winchester 1886 as well. .25-35 and .30-30 were both new, smokeless rounds, and both introduced in August 1895. .30-30 is commonly called the first commercial smokeless powder round in the US, likely because hardly anyone remembers the .25-35. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]] | |||
==Silly question== | |||
Silly question, but as a Western movie fan are there any quick guides to recognising the differences between a Model 1873, 1892 and 1894 by sight?[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 15:34, 20 November 2013 (EST) | |||
:You can distinguish the 1873 by looking at the receiver, it has an extra metal plate or something that the 1892 and the 1894 don't. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:52, 20 November 2013 (EST) | |||
::The 1873 also has that distinctive bulge under the receiver at the cocking loop pivot point. It is harder to tell the 1892 and 1894 apart, particularly with the different model variations and modern reproductions. The best way to tell these apart is that the 1892 is chambered for pistol sized rounds so has a small loading gate, whereas the 1894 is chambered in the .30-30 rifle cartridge so has a larger more elongated loading gate. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:13, 20 November 2013 (EST) | |||
*Thanks a million gang! I seem to recall reading something that one of the later model Winchesters used these 'three in one' blanks that could be used in the three weapons usually used in the films.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 06:10, 21 November 2013 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 13:24, 1 February 2021
Additional Variants
Ali Larter
Didn't she use a Mossberg 464 in Extinction? -SasquatchJim.
Mossberg 464
I think we should give the Mossberg 464 it's own page, it's actually a very different rifle than the Winchester. - Nyles I propose that the Mossberg 464 be removed from Imfdb because it has been misidentified in all 3 movies listed here.=LJ (talk) 17:52, 21 July 2019 (EDT)
- Not necessarily; we still have a couple confirmed appearances of the SPX variant (e.g. Cross Fire, State of Decay, Killing Floor 2, etc.), so it should stay. Plus, even if that wasn't the case, it wouldn't be "removed from IMFDB"; the general policy in these situations is to put it in the discussion page, info and all, in case it pops up later. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 00:12, 22 July 2019 (EDT) P.S.: Reminds me, I was planning to do some more work on "CF. Maybe I will at some point in the future.
Caliber
The model 1894 wasn't produced in .30-30 until 1895. Does anyone know what cartridge it was originally chambered for? -Anonymous
.38-55, I think. -SasquatchJim.
- .32-40 and .38-55 originally, followed by .25-35 and .30-30 in 1895. The .32 Special was introduced in 1901. - Nyles
Were any of those smokeless rounds or was the .30-30 the first smokeless rifle round Winchester used? -Anonymous
- .32-40 and .38-55 were both black powder rounds, originally introduced by Ballard for use in single-shot rifles. Both had previously been chamberings of the Winchester 1886 as well. .25-35 and .30-30 were both new, smokeless rounds, and both introduced in August 1895. .30-30 is commonly called the first commercial smokeless powder round in the US, likely because hardly anyone remembers the .25-35. - Nyles
Silly question
Silly question, but as a Western movie fan are there any quick guides to recognising the differences between a Model 1873, 1892 and 1894 by sight?Foofbun (talk) 15:34, 20 November 2013 (EST)
- You can distinguish the 1873 by looking at the receiver, it has an extra metal plate or something that the 1892 and the 1894 don't. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:52, 20 November 2013 (EST)
- The 1873 also has that distinctive bulge under the receiver at the cocking loop pivot point. It is harder to tell the 1892 and 1894 apart, particularly with the different model variations and modern reproductions. The best way to tell these apart is that the 1892 is chambered for pistol sized rounds so has a small loading gate, whereas the 1894 is chambered in the .30-30 rifle cartridge so has a larger more elongated loading gate. --commando552 (talk) 16:13, 20 November 2013 (EST)