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:I think the barrel is too short on the Turkish Mauser carbine. Bolt handle also looks different. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 14:50, 19 March 2015 (EDT) | :I think the barrel is too short on the Turkish Mauser carbine. Bolt handle also looks different. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 14:50, 19 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
:Correction, the exposed part of the barrel is too short. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 14:51, 19 March 2015 (EDT) | :Correction, the exposed part of the barrel is too short. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 14:51, 19 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
::Another guess is a [http://www.angelfire.com/nh/milarm/images/95c.jpg Spanish Mauser M1895 Carbine]. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 14:59, 19 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::Agreed! [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 15:05, 19 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::Hold it! I think I've found it. It's a [http://www.rollanet.org/~stacyw/turkish_berthier_carbine_sling.htm Turkish Berthier Carbine].[[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 15:18, 19 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::It seems some variants have a [http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/213813/12247343/berthier-bb.jpg_thumbnail0.jpg straight bolt and covered barrel] while others have [http://www.imfdb.org/images/c/cc/Bert-c92_70.jpg bent bolt and uncovered barrels].[[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 15:23, 19 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::I just noticed the [http://www.forgottenweapons.com/turkish-orman-carbine-video/ Turkish version does not have a portruding magazine] unlike the original Berthier. | |||
Can we get a poster for this? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:45, 19 March 2015 (EDT) | Can we get a poster for this? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:45, 19 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
== "Other bolt action rifles" == | |||
Does anyone have a clue yet as to what rifle is shown in the third screenscap of the "Other bolt action rifles category"? [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 08:54, 20 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
:This rifle bears resemblance with various Mannlicher model but it lacks its typical magazine. So my guess is [[Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 carbine|Greece Mannlicher-Schoenauer M1903/14]] ([http://weaponland.ru/images/vintovki/avstro-vengr/Mannlicher-Schoenauer_1903-2.jpg like the one at the bottom]). [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 13:22, 20 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
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[[ File:Waterdiviner-poster.jpg |thumb|right|300px|''The Water Diviner'' (2014)]] | |||
'''''The Water Diviner''''' is a 2014 Australian historical drama that marked the feature film directorial debut of [[Russell Crowe]]. The film's setting takes place in 1919, as Joshua Connor (portrayed by Crowe), an Australian farmer, begins a search for his three sons, all of whom went missing following the horrific battle at Gallipolli, Turkey in 1915. As the story progresses, Crowe gets involved with the Greek-Turkish War of 1919-1922. The film's cast also includes [[Olga Kurylenko]], [[Jai Courtney]], Cem Yilmaz and Yilmaz Erdogan. | |||
{{Film Title|The Water Diviner}} | |||
__TOC__<br clear=all> | |||
{{Spoilers}} | |||
==Mauser C96== | |||
Major Hasan carries a C96 and is briefly seen shooting it. Later a Greek soldier captures it and is about to use it on Hasan himself. | |||
[[Image:C96MauserRed9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mauser C96 "Red 9" Version for the German Army - 9x19mm. This model is World War One dated.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerC96 (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hasan firing during the train ambush.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerC96 (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Greek soldier gloatingly loads Hasan's own C96 in front of him as he prepares to execute Hasan.]] | |||
== Mle 1892 revolver== | |||
The leader of the Greek ambush party carries a [[Mle 1892 Revolver]]. | |||
[[Image:LebelRevolver1892.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Modele d’Ordonnance Mle 1892 Revolver - 8 x 27mm SR]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerRevolver (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
==Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III*== | |||
The Australians are seen with the contemporary [[Lee-Enfield|Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III]]. | |||
[[Image:SMLE.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III* - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during the First World War, introduced in 1907 it has seen action throughout the 20th century.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerSMLE3 (4).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sergeant Jemal ([[Cem Yilmaz]]) inspects a boobytrap SMLE left behind by the Anzac after they retreated from Gallipolli.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerSMLE3 (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Connor brothers in action at Gallipolli with their Mk.III's in a flashback.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerSMLE3 (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Anzac soldier shooting Turkish wounded after capturing a trench.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerSMLE3 (3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Tucker ([[Christopher Sommers]]) and Lt.Col Cyril Hughes ([[Jai Courtney]])]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerSMLE3 (5).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
==Mockup SMLE Mk.III== | |||
The Commonwealth troops in Istanbul carries mockup Mk.III's. They are easily spotted due to the bolt handle being too far forward and the generally bulky appearence of the weapon. | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerFalseSMLE (5).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the bolt handle's incorrect position on the weapon on the left. The magazine also seems to be too large compared to the Mk.III further indicating a mockup.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerFalseSMLE (3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the overall incorrect appearance of the weapon on the right.]] | |||
==Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.I== | |||
In a brief shot the anochronistic SMLE No.4 is shown during the Gallipolli battle. | |||
[[Image:LeeEnfield4Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.I - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during World War Two, however, it was supplemented heavily with the older Lee Enfield No.1 MK.III. First placed in service with the British military in 1941.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerSMLE4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The portruding barrel gives away that it is a No.4 as opposed to the historically correct Mk.III.]] | |||
==Mauser rifle== | |||
The Turks are equipped almost to a man with Mauser rifles, both during the Gallipolli battle flashback and later. | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerMauser (6).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Turkish soldiers preparing to assault at Gallipolli.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerMauser (5).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerMauser (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The soldiers discovers the Anzac soldiers have already departed with the trenches now standing empty.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerMauser (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Major Hasan's soldiers fighting during the train ambush.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerMauser (4).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
===Mauser Gewehr 1898=== | |||
One of Major Hasan's ([[Yilmaz Erdogan]]) soldiers is armed with a Gewehr 1898 during the train scene. | |||
[[Image:Mauser g98.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser Gewehr 1898 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerGewehr98.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the distinct rear sight.]] | |||
===Mauser 98AZ Artillery Carbine=== | |||
A Turkish soldier uses a [[Mauser 98AZ Artillery Carbine]] during the train ambush. | |||
[[Image:Mauser 98AZ Artillery Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser 98AZ Artillery Carbine - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerMauser (7).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the hooded sight and the stacking hook just underneath the muzzle.]] | |||
===Turkish Mauser=== | |||
The [[1903 Turkish Mauser|Turkish mauser 1903]] is seen by at least one Turkish soldier. | |||
[[Image:1903TurkishMauser.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Turkish Mauser 1903 - 7.65x53mm Mauser]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerMauser (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The third soldier from the left (facing the camera) carries a Turkish mauser 1903.]] | |||
==Other bolt action rifles== | |||
The Greek raiding party all carry bolt action rifles of unknown sort. Some are possibly a mockup SMLE Mk.III. | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerRifle (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerRifle (3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerRifle (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
==Berthier Mle 1907-16 Rifle== | |||
One of the Greek soldiers uses a [[Berthier Rifles|Berthier Mle 1907-16]] during the train ambush. | |||
[[Image:FusilM1916.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Berthier Mle 1907-16 Rifle - 8mm Lebel]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerRifle (7).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
==Turkish Berthier Carbine== | |||
A Turkish Berthier Carbine is used by one of the Greek raiders during the train ambush. | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerCarbine (3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sergeant Jemal threatened by the Greek carrying a carbine. (hardcoded subtitles)]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerCarbine (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Front sight of carbine]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerCarbine (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
==Small caliber bolt action rifle== | |||
In a flashback Connor recalls his sons after a successful hunt. The eldest is carrying a small bolt action rifle. | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerRifle (5).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerRifle (6).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
==Maxim MG08== | |||
The Turkish and later Greek soldiers are armed with a Maxim 08 mounted on a 'sledge' mount. | |||
[[Image:MaximMG08.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim MG08 on 'sledge' mount - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerMaxim (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Maxim used during the Gallipolli battle.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerMaxim (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Used again at the train ambush by Greek soldiers. This is most likely the same MG as used in the Gallipolli scene.]] | |||
==Single and Double barrelled shotgun== | |||
At least one Turkish civilian is armed with a double barrelled shotgun and another with what looks like a single barrel. | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerShotgun (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the exposed hammers.]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerShotgun2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Civilian on the left with what looks like a single barrel shotgun. (subtitles are hardcoded)]] | |||
==Bergmann MP18== | |||
A Greek soldier is seen with a Bergmann MP18 during the train ambush. | |||
[[Image:MP18.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Bergmann MP18 Sub Machine Gun with 32 round Drum - 9x19mm]] | |||
[[File:TheWaterDivinerMP18.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[Category:Movie]] | |||
[[Category: War]] | |||
[[Category:Drama]] | |||
Latest revision as of 04:32, 29 July 2023
The revolver is a French Mle 1892 Revolver. The rifle on the final screenshot in Bolt action rifles entry appears to be a Berthier Fusil Mle 1907-15 M16.
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I also guess that Greek raider's carbine is a Turkish Mauser M1905 Carbine. Greg-Z (talk) 14:35, 19 March 2015 (EDT)
- I think the barrel is too short on the Turkish Mauser carbine. Bolt handle also looks different. Dudester32 (talk) 14:50, 19 March 2015 (EDT)
- Correction, the exposed part of the barrel is too short. Dudester32 (talk) 14:51, 19 March 2015 (EDT)
- Another guess is a Spanish Mauser M1895 Carbine. Greg-Z (talk) 14:59, 19 March 2015 (EDT)
- Agreed! Dudester32 (talk) 15:05, 19 March 2015 (EDT)
- Hold it! I think I've found it. It's a Turkish Berthier Carbine.Dudester32 (talk) 15:18, 19 March 2015 (EDT)
- It seems some variants have a straight bolt and covered barrel while others have bent bolt and uncovered barrels.Dudester32 (talk) 15:23, 19 March 2015 (EDT)
- I just noticed the Turkish version does not have a portruding magazine unlike the original Berthier.
- Agreed! Dudester32 (talk) 15:05, 19 March 2015 (EDT)
- Another guess is a Spanish Mauser M1895 Carbine. Greg-Z (talk) 14:59, 19 March 2015 (EDT)
Can we get a poster for this? --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:45, 19 March 2015 (EDT)
"Other bolt action rifles"
Does anyone have a clue yet as to what rifle is shown in the third screenscap of the "Other bolt action rifles category"? Dudester32 (talk) 08:54, 20 March 2015 (EDT)
- This rifle bears resemblance with various Mannlicher model but it lacks its typical magazine. So my guess is Greece Mannlicher-Schoenauer M1903/14 (like the one at the bottom). Greg-Z (talk) 13:22, 20 March 2015 (EDT)
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The Water Diviner is a 2014 Australian historical drama that marked the feature film directorial debut of Russell Crowe. The film's setting takes place in 1919, as Joshua Connor (portrayed by Crowe), an Australian farmer, begins a search for his three sons, all of whom went missing following the horrific battle at Gallipolli, Turkey in 1915. As the story progresses, Crowe gets involved with the Greek-Turkish War of 1919-1922. The film's cast also includes Olga Kurylenko, Jai Courtney, Cem Yilmaz and Yilmaz Erdogan.
The following weapons were used in the film The Water Diviner:
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Mauser C96
Major Hasan carries a C96 and is briefly seen shooting it. Later a Greek soldier captures it and is about to use it on Hasan himself.
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Mle 1892 revolver
The leader of the Greek ambush party carries a Mle 1892 Revolver.
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Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III*
The Australians are seen with the contemporary Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III.
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Mockup SMLE Mk.III
The Commonwealth troops in Istanbul carries mockup Mk.III's. They are easily spotted due to the bolt handle being too far forward and the generally bulky appearence of the weapon.
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Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.I
In a brief shot the anochronistic SMLE No.4 is shown during the Gallipolli battle.
Mauser rifle
The Turks are equipped almost to a man with Mauser rifles, both during the Gallipolli battle flashback and later.
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Mauser Gewehr 1898
One of Major Hasan's (Yilmaz Erdogan) soldiers is armed with a Gewehr 1898 during the train scene.
Mauser 98AZ Artillery Carbine
A Turkish soldier uses a Mauser 98AZ Artillery Carbine during the train ambush.
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Turkish Mauser
The Turkish mauser 1903 is seen by at least one Turkish soldier.
Other bolt action rifles
The Greek raiding party all carry bolt action rifles of unknown sort. Some are possibly a mockup SMLE Mk.III.
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Berthier Mle 1907-16 Rifle
One of the Greek soldiers uses a Berthier Mle 1907-16 during the train ambush.
Turkish Berthier Carbine
A Turkish Berthier Carbine is used by one of the Greek raiders during the train ambush.
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Small caliber bolt action rifle
In a flashback Connor recalls his sons after a successful hunt. The eldest is carrying a small bolt action rifle.
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Maxim MG08
The Turkish and later Greek soldiers are armed with a Maxim 08 mounted on a 'sledge' mount.
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Single and Double barrelled shotgun
At least one Turkish civilian is armed with a double barrelled shotgun and another with what looks like a single barrel.
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Bergmann MP18
A Greek soldier is seen with a Bergmann MP18 during the train ambush.
