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I've gone through this in my head multiple times and I cant figure it out: Why is the double SMG, as featured in Batman and that other movie, a mockup of an original 1915 SMG that does not ressemble the movie version except the fact it has two barrels and two magazines? The movie version is a new construct. I mean look at these two weapons: Is the former really supposed to be a duplicate of the latter? | I've gone through this in my head multiple times and I cant figure it out: Why is the double SMG, as featured in Batman and that other movie, a mockup of an original 1915 SMG that does not ressemble the movie version except the fact it has two barrels and two magazines? The movie version is a new construct. I mean look at these two weapons: Is the former really supposed to be a duplicate of the latter? | ||
Unless there is some written "behind the scenes" / "Directors cut" citations that I am unaware of, I cannot see any reasoning in upholding the theory that this is a Villar-Perosa mockup. In other words unless proven otherwise I believe the Beretta M38A was NOT made to be a mockup of the Villar-Perosa 1915. | Unless there is some written "behind the scenes" / "Directors cut" citations that I am unaware of, I cannot see any reasoning in upholding the theory that this is a Villar-Perosa mockup. In other words unless proven otherwise I believe the Beretta M38A was NOT made to be a mockup of the Villar-Perosa 1915. | ||
Unless someone proves me other wise I want to change the Batman and The Sicilian articles to reflect this. | Unless someone proves me other wise I want to change the Batman and The Sicilian articles to reflect this. | ||
P.S: I hope I do not come across as negative in this comment. I do not wish to step on anyones toes in this. I just want the facts!. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 15:25, 21 August 2015 (EDT) | P.S: I hope I do not come across as negative in this comment. I do not wish to step on anyones toes in this. I just want the facts!. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 15:25, 21 August 2015 (EDT) | ||
[[File:Fake Villar Perosa from The Sicilian.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]] | [[File:Fake Villar Perosa from The Sicilian.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]] | ||
[[Image:Villar-perosa 1915 4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Villar-Perosa M1915, fitted with wooden stock for off-hand use - 9 mm Glisenti]] | [[Image:Villar-perosa 1915 4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Villar-Perosa M1915, fitted with wooden stock for off-hand use - 9 mm Glisenti]] | ||
:[https://web.archive.org/web/20110106070827/http://www.longmountain.com/just-for-fun/movie-guns/TheSicilian/ According to LMO] (who apparently made the gun for ''The Sicilian''), it is supposed to be a Villar-Perosa.--[[User:Quarax|Quarax]] ([[User talk:Quarax|talk]]) 15:50, 21 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
::I take back what I said. My bad! [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 16:48, 21 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
== * Cough * == | |||
It's really a M1928A1? I clearly see the vertical handguard. -[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 17:44, 29 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Batmobile Machine Guns == | |||
Are we sure they aren't AN/M2s? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 03:24, 31 May 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Flamethrower in Wayne's armor room == | |||
One of the suits on display has a flamethrower in its hands. I'm almost certain it's entirely fictional, but I want to make doubly sure. | |||
[[File:Batman89-Flamethrower-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The flamethrower displayed behind Alexander Knox.]] | |||
[[File:Batman89-Flamethrower-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The flamethrower on display over Knox's right shoulder.]] | |||
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 05:41, 21 September 2021 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 09:41, 21 September 2021
Double barrelled SMG
Can't be sure as there are no clear shots of it, but that double barrelled SMG could be the fake Villar-Perosa from the 1987 film The Sicilian. What you are seeing as a sort of shield is actually two straight vertical magazine which belong to the pair of inverted Beretta Model 38As which make up the weapon:
Even if it is not this exact gun, I think it is something along the same lines. --commando552 (talk) 07:29, 1 October 2012 (EDT)
Also, remember that the limit for the number of screen-shots for a single weapon is 10 (7 if it is only used by one character). --commando552 (talk) 07:33, 1 October 2012 (EDT)
Thank you very much to whoever posted the picture of the double barrel SMG! I've been dying to find out what it actually looks like! I always pictured it in my mind with tommy gun Cutts compensators!--Gunnerboy (talk) 02:45, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
- No problem, just happened to be watching the making-of and it was in there.--Leigh Burne (talk) 04:10, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
- It definitely is the same weapon. Both movies were filmed in the U.K. and the armorers on both films were Bapty & Co. Remember, people, when you see two guns in two different movies that look identical to each other, it means that you're probably looking at the exact same weapon being reused on multiple productions. It happens all the time; think about how many times the TimeCop Taurus pistols have been reused in productions filmed in Vancouver, for instance. There's no need to say "the weapon in X film looks similar to the weapon in Y film"; you can almost always be certain that they're the same gun, provided you've verified that both movies were filmed in the same country (or same part of the country), which would usually mean that the same armorers got hired to work on both films. -MT2008 (talk) 11:58, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
Double barrel SMG might be "home made".
I think the Doubble Barrel SMG was put together using multiple other weapons. I can only identify one component so far: Compare the two respective pistol-grips below. Dudester32 (talk) 13:24, 19 July 2015 (EDT)
- And of course I was late in reading the Villar-Perosa M1915 SMG article or I would have realised the above is already old news..Dudester32 (talk) 12:46, 20 July 2015 (EDT)
Why is it a Villar-Perosa M1915 mockup?
I've gone through this in my head multiple times and I cant figure it out: Why is the double SMG, as featured in Batman and that other movie, a mockup of an original 1915 SMG that does not ressemble the movie version except the fact it has two barrels and two magazines? The movie version is a new construct. I mean look at these two weapons: Is the former really supposed to be a duplicate of the latter? Unless there is some written "behind the scenes" / "Directors cut" citations that I am unaware of, I cannot see any reasoning in upholding the theory that this is a Villar-Perosa mockup. In other words unless proven otherwise I believe the Beretta M38A was NOT made to be a mockup of the Villar-Perosa 1915. Unless someone proves me other wise I want to change the Batman and The Sicilian articles to reflect this. P.S: I hope I do not come across as negative in this comment. I do not wish to step on anyones toes in this. I just want the facts!. Dudester32 (talk) 15:25, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
- According to LMO (who apparently made the gun for The Sicilian), it is supposed to be a Villar-Perosa.--Quarax (talk) 15:50, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
- I take back what I said. My bad! Dudester32 (talk) 16:48, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
* Cough *
It's really a M1928A1? I clearly see the vertical handguard. -Slon95 (talk) 17:44, 29 August 2016 (EDT)
Batmobile Machine Guns
Are we sure they aren't AN/M2s? Spartan198 (talk) 03:24, 31 May 2018 (EDT)
Flamethrower in Wayne's armor room
One of the suits on display has a flamethrower in its hands. I'm almost certain it's entirely fictional, but I want to make doubly sure.
Spartan198 (talk) 05:41, 21 September 2021 (EDT)