User talk:Tiksom

Non American users are being strongly reminded to adhere to the IMFDB page standards

Sorry, we have been stressing to members that (a) they should upload their screencaps, posters and other info BEFORE they make the page. (b) New members are held up to greater scrutiny due to recent abuses by many new and anonymous members. There has been a rash of really BAD pages with almost no info, usually from new members. My apologies, but apparently you got caught up in the wave of deletions of bad pages created by new users. Now if the page was made by a recognized veteran member, whom we know would finish the page, then we would have probably let it go for at least a month before someone said something. Also Stalker is a Russian film. IMFDB is starting to clamp down on foreign films that have weak pages, because WE can't finish them (unless we go out of our war to order a region free DVD from overseas which we won't do). Be sure to make it conform to IMFDB standards as we have had some Russian users make crappy pages. It makes us wary of pages created by users where English is not their strong suit. So if you want to make a new page, don't just make a bare page and walk away. Even having the movie poster, a plot synopsis and some screenshots, would have kept that page from being deleted. The rules of IMFDB are getting more strict (unfortunately due to a bunch of bad page making by a small but energetic percentage of users). Also have screencaps ready. User should be committed enough to learn how to screencap their projects, if they don't know how or have problems, there are MANY users who are happy to help if help is requested. Hope this helps. MoviePropMaster2008 22:42, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

BTW, your page had already been tagged for deletion by other users. See the "NoEffort" template to see what I mean. Pages tagged with the DELETE category will be deleted. Only YOU can keep this from happening by showing marked effort in working on a new page. Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008 22:51, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for taking time to write the answer and for apologies.

I see now your point. I did read policy (it's not very clear to be honest) and got an impression that "bad pages" are removed only after certain inactivity period, when it is clear that nobody is updating them. It seems that users (marking for deletion) are just not patient or don't check if it's just a new page being worked on ;-) As you wrote that you have an influx of such bad pages not allowing grace periods, I will change my workflow, trying to complete more page offline before putting it to IMFDB, then insert pictures first.

"Stalker" can't have very good page (=plenty of guns), as it only features two (or possibly three) firearms, one of them not recognized by me, plus an atomic bomb (not sure if it qualifies as a firearm though ;-) ). I see a certain problem here - movies that are very popular, especially American blockbusters, have tens of people working on them. Information on what gun was used in what scene can be found not only on IMFDB, but also plenty of other sources. For less popular movies, and non-American ones, there is a certain contradiction. It is not easy to find out details on firearms on the Internet, and IMFDB by the policy you listed ("clamp down on foreign films") will probably not allow construction of stub pages that can be filled out by other visitors. Often original author of page can't recognize firearms, but can at least provide scene descriptions and pictures. Other visitors would then add more details.

What would be your thoughts on that? Based on your answer, posting just a list/pictures of unrecognized firearms for others to work on be ok, right? Similar with less popular movies that feature just a very few firearms, I guess these would be ok too, if accompanied with poster/pictures?

--Tiksom 23:19, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

One, with obscure (To american viewers) films, we desperately need good screenshots (but not too many ;) ). That is why most of us are here. Surely recognizing the guns is priority one, but any member can put up a query for help and others will do it. But it's our inability to get those films and screencap them if the original creator doesn't do it, that is irritating. IMFDB wants completeness in it's pages, and we prefer complete individual pages, rather than listing everything ever made , with weak almost empty pages. If you can post a good pic of the movie poster (see other pages for examples) and then screencaps, you can always post "what is this weapon?" and people can help, in fact they are very willing to help if the shot is clear enough. The vast majority of IMFDB's viewer traffic is NON-gun people coming here to check on what weapons were used in their favorite films. Then they branch out, checking out all the other movie, etc. pages. Or else they are complete MOVIE BUFFS who want verification of what guns were in their favorite movies. Any way, it's OUR job to make sure that their viewing experience is not only accurate but professional looking. Hope this helps. MoviePropMaster2008 19:20, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Just a reminder, do NOT put hyperlinks in the section titles

That's clearly written in the rules. Just a reminder. I will change the hyperlinks you put in Stalker as they violate the rules of IMFDB. Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008 16:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. I reread the rules to make sure I haven't missed something else.