Nikolai Krasotkin's rifle is Vetterli Model 1869/70, not SMLE. The multi-barrel machine gun seems to be a kind of Gatling Gun rather than modern Minigun. Greg-Z (talk) 16:43, 29 September 2017 (EDT)
Many thanks for the help! Pyramid Silent (talk) 17:31, 29 September 2017 (EDT)
That Yellowboy is a Winchester 1873, easy to tell, look at the color and the sideplates on the receiver. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 20:31, 29 September 2017 (EDT)
Webley Revolvers
Firstly, I think that the gun ID'd as a Mk V is the same as the others and the barrel length just look a little different due to the shadow and the fact that they are not drawn that consistently. Secondly, these guns are not Mk Vs or VIs as they lack the cylinder removal cams under the holster guides, and the guns have a birdshead grip with a spur at the top which makes them Mk Is:
The part that doesn't match is the barrel length, but seeing as everything else matches the Mk I (including the rounded front sight which is wrong for the Mk VI which is the only variant that actually had a 6" barrel) I would ID these as Mk Is with lengthened barrels. --commando552 (talk) 18:46, 29 September 2017 (EDT)
Just to add, there were 6" barreled Mk Vs but they are pretty rare and the frame doesn't match, and there were civilian Mk VIs that had a Mk I style frame but they still had the cylinder cams which these guns lack. I think there were also Mk Is converted by the Navy during WW1 (into Mark I** models) to have 6 inch barrels, but during the conversion they were also fitted with the other new parts like the cylinder cams, and the front sight would have been the blade type rather than the half circle type seen in this. --commando552 (talk) 19:13, 29 September 2017 (EDT)
And along with having cams they lack the holster guides and have the wrong style of front sight so I doubt they are based on this. As these are just drawings after all rather than real guns, I find it more likely that the reference the animators used was a Mk I and they just drew the barrel a little longer because they preferred the look. --commando552 (talk) 11:51, 30 September 2017 (EDT)
Unidentified revolver, used by the bearded man on "revolver 11 1", resembles Webley RIC. The revolver on "revolver 10 1" is possibly the same. Greg-Z (talk) 15:03, 1 October 2017 (EDT)
Rifles
The Vetterli rifle looks more like the Model 1878 variant (because of the type of the barrel).
The rifles on the last image seems to be French Charleville Mle 1777 muskets since it shows the French revolution and the rifle that is holded by the Afghan peasant could be some type of a Jezail musket (but this is only a guess).
--HighPhigh (talk) 12:52, 30 September 2017 (EDT)
Doesn't it have the 1869 rear sight though rather than the 1878 one though? It also looks like it doesn't have the full hook to the trigger guard the 1878 did. What do you mean by "type of the barrel", the number of bands? The number of bands is more correct for the 1878 but the other details are wrong. It could be a Stutzer carbine, but i can't tell if it has the double triggers. Or it could be a 69/71 or 71 that they have just given only the one band for whatever reason. --commando552 (talk) 13:47, 30 September 2017 (EDT)
You're right it's definitely not a M78. I compared the two Vetterli models again and I saw the difference between the rear sights in the anime. So it must be an early model like the 69/70, 69/71 or 71.
Is the 1969/70 a real gun? The only reference I can find to it is on our site so I wonder if that is a typo and is meant to be 1969/71. --commando552 (talk) 07:20, 1 October 2017 (EDT)
Good question. On my research for the differences between the M69/71, M71 and M78, i couldn't find anything about a 69/70 variant.--HighPhigh (talk) 08:51, 1 October 2017 (EDT)
