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Talk:Terrorist Ivanova (Terroristka Ivanova)
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Unidentified pistol looks like CZ 27. Greg-Z (talk) 08:56, 27 November 2015 (EST)
- A BTR-80-mounted KPVT is seen on the third screenshot in AKS-74 section. Greg-Z (talk) 14:34, 27 November 2015 (EST)
- Thank you verry mach for the help! Pyramid Silent (talk) 14:54, 27 November 2015 (EST)
- The last pistol in the Makorov section isn't one, look at the trigger guard. My initial gut feeling was Mauser HSc, but the serrations look a bit off so not sure about that. --commando552 (talk) 20:04, 28 November 2015 (EST)
- I would rather think it to be a PSM or, more likely, a gas-firing/rubber-firing version of PSM, IZh-78-9 (later renamed MP-78-9) in 9mm PA caliber, as the muzzle looks too large for 5.45mm. Greg-Z (talk) 02:31, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- Or maybe not, as the inscription on the slide looks different from IZh-78. Greg-Z (talk) 03:34, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- The trigger guard also looks wrong, with the pictured gun having that smooth constant curve all the way to the front of the frame which is very much like the HSc. The design of the safety is also wrong for the PSM, and the way the sights are in a groove on the top of the slide is also a feature of the HSc (see here for an angle that shows this). The markings (two rows of text with a logo near the muzzle) also looks like the HSc. The only thing that makes me think it might not be an HSc is the fact that the serrations appear to be more vertical than they should be, but this might just be the fact that this image is from a very extreme angle. Are there any other shots of this pistol showing it more clearly in the episode? --commando552 (talk) 06:37, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- The bore seems to be larger than .32 caliber. Maybe a .380 version of HSc? Greg-Z (talk) 06:51, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- I upload a few more screenshoots of this gun. Maybe, it will be usefull. Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:01, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- The bore seems to be larger than .32 caliber. Maybe a .380 version of HSc? Greg-Z (talk) 06:51, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- The trigger guard also looks wrong, with the pictured gun having that smooth constant curve all the way to the front of the frame which is very much like the HSc. The design of the safety is also wrong for the PSM, and the way the sights are in a groove on the top of the slide is also a feature of the HSc (see here for an angle that shows this). The markings (two rows of text with a logo near the muzzle) also looks like the HSc. The only thing that makes me think it might not be an HSc is the fact that the serrations appear to be more vertical than they should be, but this might just be the fact that this image is from a very extreme angle. Are there any other shots of this pistol showing it more clearly in the episode? --commando552 (talk) 06:37, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- The last pistol in the Makorov section isn't one, look at the trigger guard. My initial gut feeling was Mauser HSc, but the serrations look a bit off so not sure about that. --commando552 (talk) 20:04, 28 November 2015 (EST)
- Thank you verry mach for the help! Pyramid Silent (talk) 14:54, 27 November 2015 (EST)
- Unfortunately these do not really show the pistol any better. The more I look at that first image though the more I am convinced that it is an HSc though. The second image does show a little bit more, if you look at the back of the slide you can see that it is the same shape as the HSc, with that even slope with the top of the frame being more vertical under it. Also, in the 3rd image you can just make out the semi-circular cut that the rear sight is recessed into, along with the fact that the rear of the slide is solid without a gap for the hammer (the hammer is in a slightly unusual place on the HSc, being kind of under the slide in the top of the frame). Also, I would agree with Greg that the bore is on the larger side suggesting that it is chambered in .380 rather than .32. --commando552 (talk) 17:40, 7 December 2015 (EST)
- Thank you very much! Pyramid Silent (talk) 17:44, 7 December 2015 (EST)