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Talk:M30 Luftwaffe Drilling
How does one fire the rifle part? I don't see a third trigger anywhere. Or does one of them fire the rifle barrel while the other fires both shotgun barrels? - User: 2wingo
- By the power of google:
- "To fire the rifle barrel, you must push the sliding catch on the tang directly in back of the breech-opening lever-forward. So doing both raises the 100-meter open V-notch rear sight blade and engages the forward trigger, which is used to fire the rifle barrel, centered under the side-by-side shotgun barrels."
- "This front trigger is a European "single-set" type, which is activated by sliding the trigger manually forward until it audibly clicks into the set mode. The rear trigger is a standard type and fires the left barrel, which is choked to fire Brenneke slugs to the rifle sight's 100-meter point-of-aim."
- "Sliding the rifle's selector catch rearward both lowers the rifle's rear sight and permits the front trigger to fire the right shotgun barrel. It is thus theoretically possible to fire three shots without opening the breech or lowering the drilling from the shoulder."
- Basically in the standard WW2 German method of creating a technical marvel to do something that didn't really need doing. Evil Tim (talk) 03:44, 30 November 2012 (EST)
- Jeez, who designed this thing, Rube Goldberg? - User: 2wingo
Double standards lol
Send hundreds of women, children and elderly people to gas chambers, no one bats an eye. Use a 9.3x74mmR round to defend yourself against an enemy, you're a war criminal. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 06:00, 28 October 2017 (EDT)
- Well, this is the same set of rules that says you can't use hollowpoints or riot control agents against soldiers, but can use them against much more dangerous civilians. (Also on a hair-splitting level Germany wasn't in a legal state of war with the parts of its own population it was trying to exterminate, hence the creation of the concept of "crimes against humanity" to address that: this was also why the 1949 Geneva Convention added a section regarding conduct when one side in an armed conflict is not a state, since prior to this your rights as a non-state combatant were, um, nothing).
- By all accounts this weapon mostly exists because Goering didn't know a lot about Africa aside from big carnivorous things live there somewhere, and had visions of his heroic pilots being eated by lions, not realising that North Africa leans more towards scorpions. Evil Tim (talk) 03:16, 29 October 2017 (EDT)
Which trigger fires which barrel?
So the weapon undisputedly has two triggers, three barrels, and a selector to switch between the three, with "forwards" raising the rear sight and switching it to the rifle mode. The current page description says this: "With the selector in the forward position... the front trigger fires the rifle barrel while the rear trigger fires the left shotgun barrel... Sliding the selector back... disables the front trigger and makes the rear trigger fire the right shotgun barrel." But Ian from Forgotten Weapons says that: "The front trigger will fire the rifle barrel, and it will also fire the right shotgun barrel." Which one is correct? Where did we find the current info? --Wuzh (talk) 01:45, 10 December 2017 (EST)
- I found the quote in the first section of the talk page on TheFreeLibrary (here) which sources it to Shotgun News, published May 10th 2009. Though I did misquote it in the page description when I said the rear trigger fires the right barrel, it's the front (as it says above). I think that agrees with what Ian is saying but I'm a little tired and confused. Evil Tim (talk) 02:23, 10 December 2017 (EST)