Talk:Hold the Dark

Trivia

Toy Army

Numerous "gun wielding" toy soldiers can be seen in Bailey's (Beckam Crawford) room.

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Bailey plants the "rifle" wielding toy soldier in the snow.

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Numerous toy soldiers can be seen on the table.

Armored Vehicles

A few armored vehicles and one combat helicopter can be seen in Iraq.

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The helicopter can be seen at the top of the image, and an armored vehicle and a Humvee can be seen in the background. The soldier at the far right holds an M4 Carbine.

News report

A few tanks and armored vehicles with mounted machine guns can be seen in a news report on the Battle of Fallujah.

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Several tanks can be seen on the TV screen.

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The Browning machine gun can be seen mounted on the tank.

Discussion

Where do you get all these guns from? Out of the air? I do not see the M3 infrared sight (and this is not the M3), let alone everything else. And Mauser Selbstlader... huh. --Slon95 (talk) 13:10, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

The M3 is just another Mini-14. --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:29, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

And that is not an M1919, it's an M2 .50 caliber machine gun. --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:58, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

The M2 carbine is also another Mini-14. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:00, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

The Hawk 372 is just another Remington 870, but with a slug barrel and a sling attachment on the barrel nut. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:02, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

The same about the "FN Trombone". And I do not see the distinctive features of the Springfield M1911. And G3 is clearly not an early version with wooden furniture, but HK91. --Slon95 (talk) 14:18, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

Might not want to use the rape scene as a screenshot either for the M4.--AgentGumby (talk) 14:50, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

The S&W auto has the double-stack bulge in a couple shots, which means it can't be a 639. That said, it also appears to have wraparound grips in other shots, that plus the blued hammer suggest this might actually be a later-model 5906. StanTheMan (talk) 22:25, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

Many thanks! I had correct the wrong ID. Pyramid Silent (talk) 15:23, 9 April 2019 (EDT)

IDs

How did you make the IDs on the Springfield Armory Mil-Spec M1911A1 and the Lee-Speed Sporter? --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:28, 9 April 2019 (EDT)

The Springfield was credited in the movie (as “.45 Springfield”), The Lee-Enfiled can be ID by its typical mag.

Pyramid Silent (talk) 15:59, 9 April 2019 (EDT)

And is it true that cheap Russian shotguns of the 20s are so popular in the USA? --Slon95 (talk) 16:37, 9 April 2019 (EDT)

Visual evidence trumps dialogue. Is there any way you can visually confirm that it's a Sprinfield? And I don't see an external magazine on the Lee-Enfield. --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:02, 9 April 2019 (EDT)

I had uploaded a few more screenshots: Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:29, 9 April 2019 (EDT)

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The Lee-Enfield mag is circled in red.

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Hey Pyramid Silent; some of the IDs are still suspect; it is best if you don't rush to add the links on the other gun pages right now. Some of the problems FCM and Slon95 pointed out and currently still exist are:

• "FN Trombone" identification uncertain
• M1911 variant identification uncertain
• Unlikelihood of Frolov shotgun being in an American film production
• Lee-Enfield identification uncertain

Regarding the "Frolov", I asked some of the guys on Gun wiki; they said that the cocking knob on the gun resembles a Springfield M1903 much more than a Mosin. It might be a customized sporterized Springfield or some variation thereof. --Wuzh (talk) 13:22, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

And Browning Auto-5 is obviously not it. The triggerguard resembles the Winchester 1200/1300, and the gun itself is obviously not young. I don't even know what it is, this is some kind of rare gun. --Slon95 (talk) 13:49, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

The much better quality (although to heavy for uploading) image of this gun. Pyramid Silent (talk) 14:07, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

I don't think this is a shotgun at all. It's got a scope, and you can see a small magazine. Maybe a Browning BAR Safari? --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:42, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

Your close, it’s a Remington Model 742.--AgentGumby (talk) 18:37, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

The Lee-Enfield mag, which proving the ID: Pyramid Silent (talk) 14:07, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

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The Lee-Enfield mag is circled in red.

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The Lee-Enfield mag can be seen from the another angle.

The long gun seen in Vernon Slone's memories may be a .410 Webley & Scott bolt action shotgun. --Greg-Z (talk) 15:26, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

Many thanks! Now, this page seems to be absolutely completed. Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:04, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

But it is not exactly. --Slon95 (talk) 16:15, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

Why? Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:18, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

The "FN Trombone" still appears to be uncertain. --Wuzh (talk) 17:14, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

The receiver looks too large and angular for Trombone (and O My Goodness who would go on deer hunt using .22 rifle?!) I have a gut feeling about something like Remington Model 8 or Wichnester Model 1907 but it's a very vague guess. Greg-Z (talk) 12:41, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

I had added this information (I guess, it's better to leave the both variants, note the unproved ID). Pyramid Silent (talk) 13:30, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

Nothing, since they are another museum exhibits, and they are fed from detachable boxes, and the gun has an extended tube magazine. Probably something like a Remington 1100 with an rifle sights and extended tube, although the receiver is strangely bent. --Slon95 (talk) 15:26, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

Rem 1100 seems too streamlined for the screen gun. Maybe it would be better to keep this gun as unidentified that to make doubtful guesses. Greg-Z (talk) 15:50, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

The muzzle attachment on the rifle

I want ask about the "Howa M1500," not exactly on the issue of IDs but on the muzzle attachment; what is this thing? --Wuzh (talk) 13:28, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

I guess, it's a flash suppressor. Pyramid Silent (talk) 13:33, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

Muzzle break. No point to a flash suppressor on a hunting rifle.--Mandolin (talk) 16:56, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

I think Sako 85 or Tikka T3. -- KINKI'boy (talk) 22:32, 11 April 2019 (JST)

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Core aims Donald's rifle.