Talk:Soldier

Garbage Planet

Anyone notice that so called future societies expend resource to fly out 20th century 'junk' out to a planet as a garbage dump, but they're dumping literally TONS of usable raw materials. One of the iconic shots is a scrapped Aircraft carrier, which would NOT be dumped. The various metals would be reused. There is enough scrap iron to build literally tons of stuff. Where do these guys get the raw materials to build a huge spaceship from if they throw away all their metal ores? I know, I know, it's science fiction, but I can't see such resources as metals becoming so worthless that they would just throw it all away. MoviePropMaster2008 02:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

You know when I was watching it again I was thinking the same thing. It's not realistic at all. I was thinking the same thing about the aircraft carrier, I figured in reality they'd either scrap it of sink it. It's just done to make an interesting environment for the movie to take place in, is probably all. Diego Wolfwood

Nevermind the costs of moving a freakin' aircraft carrier off the planet. But it's a moot point, considering the aircraft carrier shown was scrapped in the early eighties. --Funkychinaman 02:05, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

There was many interesting things among the garbage, including Liberty Bell, spinner from Blade Runner (Soldier is actually Blade Runner spin-off - genetically engeneered soldiers are replicants as well), other notable things. Can we put this interesting information in trivia section, like in T2 page, please ? --Kloga 23:35, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually the T2 page is ridiculous. There is more trivia than relevant content. So I guess the answer is 'no' MoviePropMaster2008 02:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

How is Soldier a Blade Runner spin off? The plots have nothing to do with each other Excalibur01

FYI: Both Soldier and Blade Runner were written by David Webb Peoples, who did sprinkle references to Blade Runner in Soldier. --Ben41 05:20, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

That doesn't go as far as to make it a Blade Runner spin-off, though. Lots of movies have references to other, unrelated movies. It's common for directors, writers, etc. to homage films they liked in their own movies. Spartan198 20:41, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I think "spin-off is not a good word for it. It's probably safe to say that both movies are set in the same universe much like the recent Marvel movies. The fact that both movies were written by the same screenwriter also is significant. --Ben41 00:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Is it really in the same universe, or is it just a wink? The ship from Firefly and the original Enterprise made similar cameos in the Battlestar Galactica miniseries, but no one is suggesting that they're in the same universe. If you look at Todd's service record, there are similar winks to lots of other films. (Mainly Kurt Russell movies.)--Funkychinaman 02:05, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

And did anyone else notice the similarities between these soldiers and the Spartans from Halo? --Funkychinaman 02:05, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

No, i didnt. They wore tactical gear and were human. -Winn

All Spartans are human, albeit genetically and surgically enhanced. I was referring to both groups being taken as children and raised as soldiers and knowing nothing else. --Funkychinaman 19:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually when I saw the movie again to do the caps, I did notice the parallels to the Spartans from Halo, but I also thought this movie was the typical movie about super soldiers brought up by the government. In Dark Angel, it's the same basic premise, but more on the idea that the super soldiers escaped and on the run. The Hitman games had Agent 47s origin as being a government trained super soldier. So the concept of Super Soldier by the government is more of a cliche archetype, but people of this generation watching Soldier for the first time will right away see Halo Spartans and nothing else. Excalibur01 04:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

On the unknown rifle please look at the Browning BLR Rifle at this link http://www.chuckhawks.com/lever_action.htm The rifle looks like the BLR with an UZI magazine put in place of the standard Mag. Thank you.

first....

is this the first movie to feature an M4 with a RIS handguard?

I think so, though not 100% sure. -MT2008 00:04, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Cowardly commander

-When did he shoot one of the newer soldiers, I don't remember that. - Diego Wolfwood

-im dont recall that either. i know he kills the old soldier simmons 8492