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Talk:Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

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That's a Webley Mk.VI if anything - the Mk.VI had the square butt and 6" barrel, the Mk.IV had a 4" barrel and bird's head grip.

If you look closely at the weapon the warhead is clearly that of the RPG-2...the 7's predecessor. However I will admit the launcher itself has been modified to look like a 7's launcher with the addition of the rear blast cone as opposed to the 2's straight pipe configuration.

Just saw the movie 2 nights ago. The launcher is definitely a -7, and more specifically, the Chinese Type 69 version (all of the "Russian" weapons in this movie are actually Chinese copies, including the Tokarevs, the AKs, and the RPG). However, it looks like the rocket used in the launcher (which would have been inert and non-functional, as is customary in cinema) is the PG-2, which only the RPG-2 can fire. It's more likely they'd use the wrong rocket (which is easier to do) than visually modify the launcher. But that's not an RPG-2, and not just because of the cone in the back; you can tell the body of the launcher and everything else are completely unlike that of the -2. That would be a hell of a modification.

I don't know who changed the M2 Carbine into an M1A1 Carbine but that isn't right. While being fitted with a 30 round mag doesn't make it an M2, it would be an M1 not an M1A1. An M1A1 is the paratrooper folding stock model. - Gunmaster45

What is İrina Spalko's sword?

The KGB? agents pulling their Tokarevs on Mutt are clearly carrying either real Russian TT-30 or TT-33s OR more likely Polish Wz48s as they are more common in the states. (The serration pattern on the slide matches Russian or Polish guns.) They are also fully cocked with fingers on the triggers. Eek!

I'm dubious that the "Used in the film" props were used in the film. All of the M1 Carbines seen in the film stills have bayonet mounts, which were added after WW2, however the framed prop does not. - Rugerlvr

Getting soft in old age?

Indy does not fire one shot in anger the entire movie, except some rocket. How can this be?

"Directed by Steven Spielberg," that's how. You know, the modern one who airbrushed the guns out of ET rather than the old one who let Indy remember he'd bought a gun to a swordfight. Evil Tim 16:12, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
Too right mate. What is with the whimpification of all things?
In real life you shouldn't fire a gun in anger, that's just stupid, if someone fired a gun in anger around me I would take it away from them. :P - Mr. Wolf 18:36, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
Movie.

Soviet uniform

The interesting fact: in the film soviet soldiers are dressed in model 1970 uniform (I will remind - action of this film occurs in 1957.). Besides - the field peak-cap for soldiers and sergeants didn't exist. Peak-caps were dressed only by officers. Soldiers and sergeants put on only field caps (or hats - in tropical countries). And the last: many of soldiers - people of middle age and it is absurd. I am sorry for my bad English. Flexo 14:27, 30 September 2011 (CDT)

As for the older troops, I guess maybe since this is a super secret mission into one of the most secret sites of a rival super-power, the Soviets would want to only take the most experienced and reliable men and not young conscripts. Not a great theory, given how easily an aging archeologist takes them out, but it's something. --Funkychinaman 15:59, 30 September 2011 (CDT)
Yeah, most experienced… especially one of them. He looks like Brezhnev in 1957 :)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5814/52559991.34/0_68105_c9d122f8_L.jpg

Generally, this is a common thing in movies. Just look at the GoldenEye . There's a section about Norinco and AK-74 a lot of amazing photo that depict soviet conscripts soldiers (is clearly on their uniforms, because the professionals sergeants had another uniforms). The soviet conscripts soldiers could not be older than 29 years, but there you can see people who are over 50 years (besides, some of them is hairy like “Deep Purple”). Flexo 15:19, 1 October 2011 (CDT)


Good points, but remember, the production is limited to what they can actually get hold of or reasonably recreate.The Wierd It 15:52, 30 September 2011 (CDT)

Actually it’s not so difficult for recreate. Just the director does not pay attention to such trifles (Besides very few spectators knows about it). If you are interested, I can show photo of a real uniform of that period:

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4521/52559991.35/0_68106_a33491bd_XL.jpg

On the left shows the field uniform for the soldiers and sergeants. On the right you can see uniform for the officers. But after 1945 (and before replacement by new type of a uniform in 1970), soldiers and sergeants had the same field uniforms (with pockets on the chest) as officers.
Some more photos of field uniform М1943. Most likely they are made in 1945. Last photo, by the way, is rather amusing.

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4521/52559991.35/0_68109_90c8a20d_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5411/52559991.35/0_68108_43938ac5_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5814/52559991.35/0_68107_b7f27e0e_L.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5813/52559991.35/0_6810b_e616f348_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5813/52559991.35/0_6810a_7d3049b5_XL.jpg

Flexo 15:44, 1 October 2011 (CDT)

"M1" Carbine

--RickB (talk) 18:41, 11 June 2018 (EDT)There seems to have been editing and reediting of the M1 Carbine verbiage? It was identified as an M2, then changed to an M1A1, then (back?) to M1? The photo caption points out the selector, but identifies the gun as M1. The presence of the selector indicates it is an M2.

Screen-used Browning Hi-Power

I found the screen-used Browning HP on auction at the Prop Store Ltd website. I'm not sure if I should upload the images, so I'll just bring this to your attention. --Wuzh (talk) 01:42, 20 February 2019 (EST)

We've used images from Prop Store before and AFAIK there hasn't been any issue. If there had, I'm sure Bunni would have informed us about it on the forum and asked us to stop doing it, but he never has. Any time I upload an image from such a place, be it Prop Store or a specific prop house's website, I'll always add a notation in the description saying "Image courtesy of blah blah" and link to the source. See the image of Rick Flag's HK416 on the Suicide Squad page as an example. Spartan198 (talk) 02:58, 20 February 2019 (EST)

OK. Sounds good. --Wuzh (talk) 11:04, 20 February 2019 (EST)