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User talk:Gunmaster45
Note: Please sign your name when adding to this discussion page so I don't have to sift through the page history to know who I'm talking to. I suggest adding a hyphen ( - ) and then typing in three ~ symbols to show your username (four if you wish to display the time as well). Also, I'm a tad OCD about this, but if you add a new post, put it at the bottom of the discussion page, so I have some form of chronological order here. Thanks. - Gunmaster45
Future Weapons
Hey GM, why don't we try to do Future Weapons together?
Helicopter in The Marine
Hey GM, That helicopter image you posted in "The Marine" under the acetaline M61 Vulcan was origionally from the scene in Rambo III where Traughman gets captured. Rockwolf66 06:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Re:Shoot 'Em Up Glocks
Yes, I realised the mistake but I think the picture of the thug with the Glock is a compact 19.-GunnutHk
Wanted
Hi, i know i was just testing out how it would be like to put up an image, anyway, why didn't you delete my Browning Hi-power pic? Oh yeah, and i added screencaps to Quantum of Solace go check it out. anyway, have you noticed that Wesley's style of holding his gun changes almost everytime. and his gun handling is unique, i have never seen it on anyone before, Wanted is my fav. movie.
Quantum of Solace
Have you checked out my Quantum of Solace pics? the one whith bond aiming his PPK is just a promotional image that i didn't upload, if you could, please upload Quantum of Solace screencaps.
Dirty Harry
Just so you know, Rafa has already done most of the Dirty Harry films. They could use a re-vamp, though, as most of them are missing stuff that we usually consider essential to a good page.
1911
Interestingly enough, I talked to my uncle (who is from West Hurley, NY; dunno if you've ever been there) a few weeks before I moved to Texas, and he was telling me excitedly about how he purchased an STI Guardian 1911 last month. If I ever go back there, I might just have to shoot it. Actually, I get the impression he wouldn't let me rest until I do...
Anyway, to answer your question, I must point out that I rarely get to shoot at all, which is mostly a consequence of the fact that I was in college out-of-state for four years, and recently moved to another state to take a job. However, I've never been a huge fan of .45 ACP pistols, which I've simply never handled well. My grandfather gave me a S&W 4506 when I turned 18, and it's really a monster (I haven't shot it in about 4 years now). I've fired only one 1911 which also belonged to my uncle, a Springfield Armory if I recall. Great gun, but still not quite up my alley. Of the .45s I have shot, I would say I liked the P220 SAO best, but even then, not enough to buy. Don't get me wrong; I completely respect the 1911 and appreciate its importance to the development of the semi-auto pistol, but I don't shoot much, and I'm just not big into .45 ACP when I do, even though most American pistol shooters are. Also, I should point out that while I prefer the Taurus PT92 over the Beretta due to the 1911-style frame-mounted controls, I still like the SIG decocker best, which is why I'm currently leaning towards the P226 as a handgun purchase (which won't be anytime soon, since I'm not living in my state of residence right now).
BTW, nice job on improving the 1911 page. It's not perfect (lots of images still not aligned with the guns they're supposed to be with), but it does look a lot less sloppy than it used to. Keep working on those movie pages, too! -MT2008
- Depends. If you can get a Tokarev pic, great. I do, of course, have a slight preference for MPM2008's pictures because his are always done professionally, but yours would still be great, too...if you can get it.
- Don't worry about corrections. We all make mistakes. If it seems like we pick on you, it's just that you do so much work on this site that it's inevitable you'll have a lot errors, too. I mean, think of the Hard Boiled page...when you've got like 50 guns, how can you NOT get so tired that your eye slips on some of them?
- It's fine, bruh...whenever you get time. It's for the site, not for me personally.
- Oh, yeah, and while I appreciate the corrections on my mis-identification of Mossbergs (I suck with those), doesn't the Cruiser have a heat shield as standard? The ones in Training Day and The Departed don't have that, so does that just make them regular pistol-gripped 500s?
New stuff
Ah, great to see someone finally made a page for the Walther MP subguns. We've needed one for a while, and it's been on my to-do list, but I see you beat me to it! I hope you don't mind, but I did re-title the page so that it instead says "Walther MP series", to more accurately describe what it says. Also (this is totally nitpicky), there's no hyphen in the name (i.e. "MP-L" should just be "MPL"), so I did change that, too.
Thanks for uploading a Type 84 picture as well. MPM2008 said he'd do it for me at some point, but he couldn't find the mags for the Type 84s in his company's vault, so he wasn't going to take a picture until he could find them. Yours will do for now, tho. Also, do you think we should give it its own entry in the AK-47 page? I mean, the Type 84 is basically just a Type 56 that fires .223, so I figured it would be best to just include it under the Type 56 entry as a Type 56 variation. Though I guess that would get confusing...
- I added it to the AK page in the Norinco section already. And when I found the info for the Walther MP guns, they had hyphens for the L & Ks.
- Oh, I know you added the Type 84 already; I'm just question whether it should be grouped with Norinco Type 56. Anyway, didn't you get those pics from World Guns.ru? They don't use the hyphen. Which site did you get your info from?
- My information is from a book, the pictures are from that site.
- OK, interesting. Which book is it? It doesn't matter too much, I guess, but everything I've read has no hyphen. I have a Gun Digest Assault Weapons issue from 1986 which reviews the MPK, and that's what they call it, not "MP-K".
- "Small Arms From the Civil War to the Present Day" by Martin J. Dougherty made in 2005. He lists them as the MP-L and MP-K. Like you said, it doesn't really matter much.
Your articles
Hi,
You know I really like your articles, but I must make one request: Please try to add pictures of the guns, and also make sure that when you say the gun's name, you link to its page (if you've seen the Heat page recently, you'll notice I edited the guns you added to include pictures and links). I realize it's probably a pain in the ass, especially when you've got a gazillion weapons like your articles for Hollow Point or Last Action Hero, but try to do it when you get around to it. You can always do what I do: Copy and paste the code for the images and links from other pages which use the same gun, especially if the coding is complicated (i.e. getting to a specific MP5 variant). -MT2008
- First of all, no page on IMFDB can escape MT2008's obsessive-compulsive editing tendencies! Haha, no, seriously, if you look at many of the pages I've worked on, I'm always editing them from time-to-time as I realize mistakes I've made. Plus, my pages rarely get shotguns or revolvers correct (since modern military weapons and semi-auto pistols are what I know best); I tend to leave them as "unknown" for other users in the future to correct.
- As far as profanity goes, I dunno, I'm not one of the admins (come to think of it, I haven't seen any of them for a LONG time now). I'd guess it's OK provided you're just quoting a character (as you do on the Heartbreak Ridge page), but not if you're using it gratuitously, especially in conversation. You'd have to ask someone in charge for the low-down on that.
Current stuff
Just an FYI: Since I see you're working so hard on your Hollow Point page, I guess now's not the time, but...I recall there being an H&K-model rifle (probably an HK91) used by one of the police snipers in The Fugitive.
As far as the grenade launcher in Hollow Point, it does look a lot like the Arwen 37 (Google Image search it and you'll see pics), but I'm not positive. I've seen it before, too...I think in another movie somewhere.
- You sure? I watched it twice and saw no HK91 rifle. And I said it was a MK1 Arwen, the oldest model employed, which he stole from a police car, which makes sense for a cop in 1996 to use one. And I've finally finished the Hollow Point page.
I remember it being at the very end, after he's been cleared and Gerard is escorting him out, you see a sniper wandering around with what looks like an HK91 or an SR9 variant. But I haven't seen the movie in years.
You should get a picture of the Arwen launcher for your page. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiny shotgun you see is a Franchi PA3/215 with a forward hand grip. I could be wrong (it's hard to tell from the distance), but I've never seen a Serbu with a folding stock, and I never thought they existed.
Heat
You should replace my screenshot of Trejo's AK's front sight with yours. Mine is from a low-quality AVI rip of the movie.
Also, what's a "P220-1"? I don't think I've ever heard that term used to describe a P220 before. Are you just referring to the fact that it's an older model P220 with a stamped slide and alloy frame?
- It's what someone else listed it as earlier before. I assume it is meant to label the oldr model but I too haven't heard the term, I just went along with it. I don't change something unless it looks wrong or I think it is. Leave your username so I can respond back to you.
- Oh, right, I always forget to do that. Personally, I wish IMFDB would add an option to automatically sign messages on other people's walls.
- From what I've been reading, "P220-1" is apparently what some magazines for the gun are marked. I also see that the picture you found on a Google image search is also labeled "P220-1". I don't think it's a factory term (or even a fan-made term) for older-model P220s. I've heard the term "P220 American" to describe the P220s that have the magazine release near the decocker (as opposed to the bottom of the grip, which characterized the early European models) because this was apparently done specifically for the American market. -MT2008
- Well, it's a bit more complicated with SIG than with Glock to label things in "Generations". I have certainly heard terms like "Gen 1" and "Gen 2" to describe Glocks (in fact, I often use them in my own articles), but when it comes to SIGs, they've made a zillion little changes to the guns every couple years to refine problems that developed. Like the moves from stamped to milled slides, K-kote and stainless finishes, magazine release changes, standard frames to railed frames (which are now standard on all of the P220-series guns, so they don't use the "R" to describe them anymore), etc, etc, etc. Plus, there were mechanical changes (i.e. redesign of the trigger bar spring) and ergonomic changes (i.e. redesign of the grips). These aren't changes that were introduced in any concrete "generations"; any SIG pistol you pick up might have some of the design changes, but lack others.
- So I'm not really sure how each "generation" would be described exactly. In fact, it'd be kind of weird to call the gun in your picture a "Gen 1" because that's technically not true - the very first P220 was the model with the magazine release on the bottom of the grip, which was eventually replaced by what gun rags used to call the "P220 American" (the first model to feature the regular push-button mag release, and the best description for McCauley's gun). Would that make McCauley's gun a Gen 2? I'm not really sure. -MT2008
- Oh, I know Glock gens. Those are quite easy in comparison, even though there have been some internal mechanical changes to Glocks as well within generations.
- All-metal SIGs are nice guns, IMO. I can definitely say I'd love to own a P226 as soon as I can get my permit application completed (which sucks because in Orange County, NC, I have to get 3 references from other people before I can apply for a pistol purchase permit at the local sheriff's dept. office). It's one of the most ergonomic pistol designs I've ever fired. However, you gotta be careful with what you buy because they've had lots of mechanical issues over the years. I also think they're kind of overpriced for what you get. But...still very nice guns.
- Congrats on the new compensator for the 1911. Have fun with that! BTW, nice job on The Rock page. I've been making corrections (as usual, because, you know...that's what I do), but it's cool you got so many high-quality screenshots uploaded.
Defense Technologies
Here is a picture of what the DefTech/Federal Labs launcher looks like:
These have appeared in quite a few films, often portrayed as HE grenade launchers (RoboCop 3 is a good example). Anyway, it could be a C.A.W., but the arms of the folding stock visible in the second pic look kind of like DefTech to me. Hopefully, Al Vrkljan will start posting on this site again soon so that we can ask him!
Great Work!
Thanks for uploading the poster for the Catch a Fire page. I have also seen your pages and screenshots, and I would like to say they are great. Thanks for your contributions to the IMFDB, and keep up the good work. Alienqueen11
Response
I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures of the guns I held years ago. the handguns I held are my Uncle's, he's a retired police officer, and I'm not sure if he'll let me look at them again because you know how some people are about firearms, but I can tell you that the .22 pistol was a very small if that will help. And also, there is another page larger then Bad Boys II, and it's MoviePropMaster2008's District B13 with 37 guns. User: Alienqueen11
Thanks
Thanks for identifying the shotguns on the Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem page, I hope the brighter screenshots helped. I still can't believe how dark that movie is, I know there's a blackout, but they didn't need to make the movie that dark. And also, I want to say excellent job on Toy Soldiers. Alienqueen11
About Language
Hey, I want to say good work on Heartbreak Ridge, there are so many pages on this site that need improvement. Also, I see you're wondering about language, I'm a moderator myself, and from I see, Bunni, the person who owns the site dosen't seem to mind as long as it is used in a quote or complaint, and not for vandalism. Just don't use anything racist, but I'm sure you won't. Alienqueen11
- OK, that's what I figured, too, but I wanted to be sure. I did notice that some of the quotes which appear on the Main Page have profanity (like the one from Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels), but it's an issue that's never been addressed at all.
MGS4 M1911A1
Hey, Gunmaster, I seen your comment on the MGS4 page and found a link that might help:
There you go, hope this helps. This game looks so great, it makes me wish I had a PS3. Alienqueen11
.50 Caliber 1911?
Yes, there is a .50 Caliber 1911. Guncrafter Industries Model No. 1 .50 GI. The bullet is roughly the same dimensions as the .45 ACP, just a little wider. Not the most practical gun, but it's a .50 1911 model.
Also, the Automag V is the .50 caliber version, The Automag III is chambered for .30 Carbine (I actually got to play with one of these, slide is loooooong.) Not to be snide or cocky, you know your material, just saying.
Furthermore, I commend you with your eagle eyes spotting all the famous movieguns we've seen time and time again. Gun guys have to stick together, especially the next generation. If you ever want to contact me outside the site, email me at companygunner@yahoo.com, or if you have an AIM account I'll be more than happy to IM. Keep up the great work.
Nice work on Platoon
It's shaping up nicely - I just made it the featured article on the front page. bunni 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Other answers (sorry for belated delivery)
.."how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect?"
- I put the weapons on a clear plexiglass frame mount which I built from scratch. I place them in front of a seamless white paper backdrop. I illuminate the gun from one side with a large Arriflex Soft box and a smaller Lowel RIFA soft box on the other side. Sometimes I just put an LTM pepper on spots to lighten up dark areas. Then I put an Arriflex 1K on wide flood on the backdrop to whiten it out. I still need to erase some of the clear plexiglass mount (nothing is invisible, even clear transparent stuff) with Photoshop, but since most of the work is done before I download it onto the computer, it becomes much easier. I also move back at least ten feet and photograph the gun with a telephoto lens. This eliminates the 'warp' distortion of a wide angle lens when photographing a gun. Too many gun images are distorted because the photographer is too close ... and I see a lot of guy's feet at the bottom of the picture.
.."I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great..."
- Done. Hope you like :) I will get some pics of M21s soon.
.."Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. ..."
- I inundated MT2008 with info that there was no Colt launcher. Personally I didn't know who made or updated the page, he just sent me a note asking my opinion ... and SLAM! I dumped a bunch of stuff on him questioning the Colt claim. good thing he didn't get offended. hahaha I just responded to his query on my talk page. :)
.."Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM.."
- The net has CRAPPY images. It's really hard, which is why I just pull out the stuff myself and take my own photos of it. I liked the idea of keeping a reference image. I am tempted to take a side by side pic myself (and not violate anyone else's copyright) and keep the clean white backdrop of the other pics. But I do have a couple of pics comparing them on the M16 page, i.e. mounted on rifles.
- Yeah, the "Colt 37mm Flare Launcher" thing is completely my fault. I dunno why I thought they were made by Colt, but I swore I heard that term somewhere on the 'Net. Just goes to show why fact-checking is always mucho importante! But seriously, I'm glad MPM is always here to catch my goofs. See, GM, that's kinda how it works...I catch yours, he catches mine, and then everything works out for the better. -MT2008
Last Action Hero
I remember working peripherally (I helped out on some of the props, but wasn't on the armory staff at the time) on that film. Everyone DURING production was moaning about how dumb it was. And it was pretty dumb. I guess the people (NOT the stars) who work on films can actually tell if a movie is stinker when it's actually being filmed, I remember all of us laughing at the RAMBO III script when we saw it. Anyway, I will look for that pistol, but I'm not making any promises. I sure don't have one and off the top of my head, I don't know anyone who does. But I can ask around.
Also, Just a note, I really think that the MAC-10 in the film is actually MAC-11s (or possibly Cobray M11s, but I can't see how long the receivers are). They're much too small to be MAC-10s. I have average sized hands and MAC-10s are monstrously huge in my hands. Unless those stuntmen are giants, I think those are MAC-11s. Also it's funny that you DID note what I said about TEC-DC9s (being that they were usually seen in films after 1990). Apparently someone was listening. hahahaha. :) But those in the photos of Arnold, are in fact TEC-9s, not TEC-DC9s. they have the sling mount in front so they're TEC-9s. Also I don't remember if they fired full auto in the film, but as far as I know, all the TEC-DC9s in Hollywood inventory are semi auto only. All the full auto ones are legal full auto conversions of TEC-9s. Only Miami Vice and a couple of other shows in the early 1980s used the old InterDynamics KG-99s. But most of the full auto guns you see are TEC-9s.
I own M21s, but they're in pieces. I have to reassemble them, get a cool scope to put on them. Also we have M21s that just came back from Iraq, I can also take some pics of those.
Nice job
Hey, nice job on the Jurassic Park page, and the other pages you did over the weekend, and also I think you forgot to put A Beautiful Mind on your Pages Built list. Alienqueen11
Re: Nice Job
I understand what you mean, I have school as well, and I understand the weekends are going to be the only times when you can make something big for awhile. Anyway, good luck, and keep up the good work. Alienqueen11
M1911 shots by MPM2008
I am getting some shots of some pristine Early 20th century and World War 2 era M1911s and M1911A1s, so be patient. I also am trying to get beauty shots of a lot of the classic handguns. I got a collector who has mint condition examples of lots of these classic guns and I am scheduling a shoot with him and his collection next week. MoviePropMaster2008
Uzi
About the Uzi page, you might want to leave a note on Bunni's talk page, he'll probably know what to do.--Alienqueen11 18:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Training Day Revolver
You want evidence, and an argument, you got one. First off, The S&W Model 66 is made of stainless steel, and not carbon steel plated with nickel. Model 19s were originally released with blue or nickel finishes. Second, A snub nosed, round butt Model 19 is a dime a dozen across the states. Here's a picture resembling the one from Training Day.
Look at the picture on the Training Day page, and they look identical, very identical, more so than any Taurus I have seen, or can find on the internet. No it doesn't have the emblem on the side, but that can be sanded off, photoshopped, or just not visible. None of us KNOW what this is, but I do KNOW my argument and my gun makes the most sense, above an Instant Backup, above a lot of things. Thank you for your time.
Call of Duty 4 Pictures
I have Pictures for guns in Call of Duty 4, but I have no clue how to get them to work
I've given up trying, and would just like to know who to send them to,
Pictures for: The Single player M4s [All three], Winchester M1200, M92 Krinkov, M21, And the USP
- Since I can't trace your profile, I hope you read it on mine. Give me a URL to whatever page has these pics and I'll upload em for you. Sound good?'
hey i'm new here and i don't know how to get to my user page and didn't someone think the mini uzi was a ruger mp9? please help me get on a user page!!! Drjuki 14:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Srry, when i signed my name i just followed the red link. i didn't think that would happen. by the way, how come i made madness combat pages and they were deleted? they told me no flash, but i don't get what they have against flash.
Can i put flash pics on my user page at least? drjuki
Re: Saving Private Ryan
I only took that one screenshot, wasn't planning on any more. Didn't mean to step on your toes there, was sort of done on impulse. Orca1 9904 18:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
- It's awesome! And I have it in the Main Page "Featured Article" feed, too, so lots of people will get to see the overhaul. I always like it when I see a page that makes me want to watch a movie again, and this one is like that. Those Garand shots make me want to buy the M1 that I saw on sale this weekend (but...saving my $$$$ for the long dreamed-of P226 again).
- Anyway, I'll look more later, but must watch Presidential debate now.
- I've always loved the way the Garand ejects the stripper clip on the last round. My grandfather's a vet, and he's told me that he used to find it scary. But I find it oddly appealing in a retro-sorta way. If you get to play around with an original GI-issue M1, lucky you.
- The Garand photos are really cool. As far as banning anonymous users from editing goes, I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. But at the very least, we really do need to have more moderators on hand.
Good call on the xXx
But it's spelled "xXx: State of the Union" Check out [[2]] as well as the first movie. I would have just changed it myself, but didn't want to jump out of the blue and just change your edit. Thanks. MPM2008
re: gun pics. I do have those guns but it takes time to do the photos. I am going to get new pics of actual M16A2s, a3s and a4s, sure some look alike but I'll try to get some good detail shots of the receivers if I remember. I went to the vault to take pics of the original m1911s and they're not there. I have to check with other people to see where they were moved.
Dibbs
The only film I would request or challenge dibbs rights on ;) is Rambo III since I (peripherally) worked on Rambo III and I would like to add information not readily available to the general public. Have you done the screen caps already? If not then I would be happy to, especially to highlight certain scenes with custom info. MPM2008
About the screencaps on COD4.
How did get them?
Sick-vice 22:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Re:XXX
Ah, OK. Well, understood then. It sucks when the director doesn't show good views of the actor/actress with a particular gun, but it's fine. Just a suggestion.
Nice work so far on Kelly's Heroes. While you're doing that, I think I'm going to get started soon on Where Eagles Dare.
On Kelly's Heroes
I'm sure you know this but Pt. Petuko is carrying an FN model D machine gun, completely the WRONG machine gun to be carrying. Also the leather Thompson Submachine gun magazine pouches aren't American but Yugoslavian Post war (1950s manufacture). Americans had khaki canvas Thompson stick pouches. MPM2008
M1911s
Per your request...Check out the new M1911 pics. I scored some really nice ones, a 1913 dated M1911 (original blued finish) and a World War 2 wartime dated M1911A1. I replaced some of the pics of repros in the original sections with those. Check it out. Thanks. MPM2008.
Need some help
Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?
-Excaliber
Are you sure?
You changed the section in The Unit from a Ruger MK II to this HDM gun. Are you sure this is the same weapon? The photo you added barely looks like the one in the series.
- What about the Mossberg? It didn't quite look like the Express Deer model.
Reign of Fire
I have no clue as to what that gun is. I don't have any opportunities to talk to John McKenna being that he's exclusively in Europe and I don't even know if he's ever visited the U.S. If you ever figure out what the gun is, I can try to see if anyone has it, but all the .577s I've seen are double rifles and not bolt action rifles. MPM2008
577 pic
Congrats on the pic!!! :) I did not know anything about that gun. As you probably well figured out by now, I don't own one, nor does my company. But I can start asking around to see if any of the armorers have one so that I can take a beauty shot of it. Good job. MPM2008
The Punisher
The guy who made The Punisher page is never on anymore, so I would say you can indeed redo it, it needs a revamp. Just promise me you'll break up the additional weapons section on that page, I can't stand when people cram a bunch of different weapons into one section like that, it has nothing to do with things you do like the Armory section on Hard Boiled because you branch out. Also did you get my message on The Sin City talk page? Thanks in advance for the revamp.--Alienqueen11 03:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Dawn of the Dead
Hey, I just uploaded some new Dawn of the Dead (2004) screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights, and also can Mossberg sights be put on an 870? Thanks in advance.--Alienqueen11 03:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the help on the shotgun, and the Glock. Do you want me to take your comments off the page or leave them for future reference? Also you have really good eyes.--Alienqueen11 04:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Tears of the Sun
I saw you comment that you were planning on editing the Tears of the Sun page. If it's ok with you, I'd like to do it, as I recently bought the DVD of it just for that purpose. Orca1 9904 07:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
Re:Tybalts Gun
You can't talk to anonymous uses? I think I've done it before. Watch for a second... -MT2008
Ak recog
Interesting Idea on the AK recog page. I will keep it in mind. Right now a lot of the AKs are customized into weird configs but they will eventually be put back to stock version. The only problem right now is that there are tons of post 1999 AK variants (Hungarians, Polish, Romanian, US made, etc.) that I don't have access to. California banned all AK models after Dec 31st 1999, but we could get them with a special permit, but 99.99% of the guys (myself included) didn't bother picking up any of the new AK models since we already had dozens upon dozens of the older 1980s version AKs. Like Sacha Robey's .223 AKs for Casino Royale, many of the foreign movies have access to AKs that are not imported into the U.S. I will look into getting page for the most common AK examples but usually there are the Maadi ARM(MISRS), Poly Tech Legends, Norinco Type 56, Romanian AIMS or Hungarian SA85s. That's about it for most of the AKs I've seen (and usually they are all 'dressed up' to look like other models if necessary). Again, interesting idea and I will start making note of and taking pics of AKs for that page.... MoviePropMaster2008
Jarhead M60E3
The real-life M1 Abrams has never been fitted with any variant of the M60 machine gun, it has always had two M240 machine guns; one mounted in a 'coaxial' configuration parallel to the main 120mm gun, and a second mounted at the Loader's hatch. The Browning M2 heavy machine gun at the Commander's hatch is correct though. If you look at my userpage on here, there's a picture of a real M1A1 in Iraq, the Loader's M240 being clearly visible. Orca1 9904 23:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
animated gifs
Can you do this? I never realized someone did one for HEAT and I though (for a few select pages or a few select guns) it would be cool. You seem to be the guru of screen capping, but I don't know how to make an animated GIF.
Just made you an Admin
You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) WikiSysop 03:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Reign of Fire
Great work on Reign of Fire. Good thing I took a pic of my Ultimax Mk 2 ;) If you want, the next time I do a big shoot at the Class III vault, I'll snap a pic with a stick magazine rather than the drum. We got so many Ultimax Mk2s (at least a half a dozen) and they're aren't often used. I just want to find someone with a Para model to photograph. :) MPM2008
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Yeah, I figured it was about time we had a page for the Non Guns. If we have one for the MGC M16 replicas, I figured we needed one for these. The convenient timing makes it better...please get a screenshot of Travolta with the Beretta Inox Non Gun and add the movie to my Non Guns page. -MT2008
- Ah, shit, forgot about that. Do you want to use the one I uploaded instead? ISS's pictures are a bit annoying because they have the measuring tape above the gun; I prefer the ones from Weapons Specialists, which are what you see on the Non Guns page. -MT2008
- Have to run out for a bit, but I'll be back later and do it then.
- BTW, just so you know, the round you see ejecting out of Harris's 1911 in the film isn't a live round, and it wasn't edited. That's what full-flash motion picture blanks look like after being fired. The extra powder has to be packed into an extension of the brass that might look like an actual projectile. Some guns have to have their ejection ports widened in order to function properly with these, though I don't believe 1911s do. You'd have to ask MPM2008 about this, as I'm sure I'm getting the details partially wrong in some way. -MT2008
Jaws
Hey GM45, Are you by any chance interested in screencapping Jaws? Because if you aren't, I have the dvd and I would like to do it if it's not on your dibbs list.--Alienqueen11 02:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Top Pages
Very cool idea - nice work. bunni 05:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- I'll look into automating some of it, will let you know if I have any luck. bunni 03:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll do as soon as I possibly can. I'll be sure to have a quite a few good M1 Garand shots, and I definitely won't forget Scheider's famous line before he blows up the shark. And I will also be screencapping Four Brothers, and Assault on Precinct 13 (2005), so you can look forward to seeing those in the future as well.--Alienqueen11 05:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Jaws is now finished, be sure to check it out when you get the chance, and tell me what you think. I also put two extra screenshots on the it's talk page if you want to see those too.--Alienqueen11 01:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
I can't change the order of the 'next page' buttons - but what about creating separate 'starting pages' or 'portals' grouping sequels and series - for example having the box and poster art of all the Matrix movies, anime and video games on one page with links to the individual pages? bunni 02:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC) s No problem, you were one of the best choices for a mod position. Excellent work on the Leone Trilogy, you've built up the Western side of the site very well. And thanks, Four Brothers is a good movie, and it needed a completed page.--Alienqueen11 19:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
thanks
Thanks for the congrats. Here is a picture of the P226 that the guy who's selling it sent me:
It's a bit roughed up externally (which is to be expected, considering it's probably 15 years old), and I'll probably need to re-blue the hammer, but at $450, it was a pretty good deal (gun + three 15-round mags and a replacement short trigger). Plus, in my opinion, the stamped slide SIGs are of better quality than the ones with cheaply-milled American slides that SIG-Sauer produces today.
Most of my extended family (grandparents, cousins, aunt and uncle) are in New York, so I know what you mean about the gun laws there. Although I'm applying for a Master's program at NYU next year, in which case, I'll be in a worse situation. And yes, I do agree with that I'm very concerned about Biden being the VP. Obama may be the most left-wing president we've ever had once he takes office, but I expect him to be far too preoccupied with the economy and the wars (as well as the Russians) to care much about gun control. Biden, on the other hand, could be a very different story. I remember feeling terribly worried when I heard Obama chose him as VP - for precisely the reason you've mentioned! If he tries to push a new AWB through, it will definitely get through Congress, and Obama will sign it into law. I'm actually trying to persuade my dad, who cares very little for assault weapons, to buy an AR15 variant sometime before Obama gets into office. We definitely have some rough times ahead. -MT2008 01:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Eh, my dad mostly likes guns for "historical" value, as opposed to guns that are "tacticool", so if you can convince him a gun has historical value, he might get interested in it. That was the argument I used when I was 18 and trying to persuade him to let me buy an AK (which damn near gave my very-liberal mother an aneurism). Once I bought it and he had the chance to shoot it, he did become fascinated with the Kalashnikov, mostly just because he admires their ruggedness and simplicity and the fact that it's been such an important weapon in 20th century combat. But he doesn't seem to have as much enthusiasm for the evil black guns with polymer parts, like ARs or H&Ks.
- As far as politics go, no worries. I'm pretty sure most people on this site feel the same way about Biden right now. I know I sure do. It's too bad we got him when we could've had a pro-RKBAer like Palin. Except that Palin's kind of a ditz and I don't really care too much about shit like banning gay marriage or teaching creationism in schools. But still...
- BTW, very nice job on the Last Man Standing page! Though I would recommend maybe being a little less exhaustive when it comes to screencaps. I know it's always tempting to use everything you've taken...every time I screencap a movie for IMFDB, I take probably three or four times the numbers of screencaps I actually wind up using on the page. -MT2008 02:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- I must concur with MT2008, the screen caps are beautiful, but there seem to be too many of the same sequence or gun. No offense intended, but it takes a long time to scroll down the page to see the 'Next' firearm used. When I screencap, I end up discarding all but the most clear shots of the guns. IMHO. :) best regards MoviePropMaster2008 19:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
crap
I posted a long and detailed response to all your questions or queries ... and then my computer froze up and I lost all of it. %(*$&^% I am running out to outfit a bunch of people with weapons today, so I will have to try to rewrite what I wrote this weekend. Sorry. MoviePropMaster2008 19:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
You can start the Quick and The Dead if you like, I should be able to work around your screengrabs. And thanks for the comment, I've taken a page from your book by just putting the name of the movie and Category:Screenshot in a screenshot's description because writing an entire description of a screenshot can be a pain and can make creating a page seem like it takes forever.--Alienqueen11 02:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't think you should get rid of those pictures, I think they're great. I saw the Shooter one, and I'm going to get shots of that eventually, and also good luck with getting your work done.--Alienqueen11 03:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Empty Pages I Created
Planning to add to them. Just starting them up while I get info together. Sorry about that. If it's best to delete them in the meantime that's fine and I'll go from there. CyclopsScott 03:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Western guns
I am trying to get pristine examples of a bunch of Western guns. I already have a Nickel SAA with ivory grips and a two tone SAA with rosewood grips and partial brass frame. the Nickel SAA has been in films. But getting new and high resolution pics of all of the guns on your western movie pages is on my list of things to do. :) I may have a line on a real (not replica) buntline and Bisley, so I'll get pics of those.MoviePropMaster2008 08:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Hotel Rwanda
GREAT work on the Hotel Rwanda Page. It's a very polished page. I'm particularly tickled that my Shot of an African G3 got some use! ;) MoviePropMaster2008 23:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
The World Is Not Enough (video game)
Hey bro, in the video games section, the game "The World Is Not Enough (video game)" should be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough
I'm new to this site and you're the only admin I come across. Hope you can show me around.
edit: Thanks for the reply bro. appreciate it. will let you know if i need help.
FYI
Nearly all blank adapted M16 variants in movies use the old style M16A1 birdcage flashhider. Directors want to the see the 'star pattern' full flash and the A2 style birdcage flashhiders with the solid bottom looks stupid with the high flash blanks. Don't know if you noticed by all of my A2s and (most of the M4s that are already blank adapted) have the A1 style flash hider. Also this is obvious in screengrabs of movies like Cloverfield, where there is obvious flash going downwards (which would not be the case if a real A2 flash hider was used). I will try to get an SP1 with a 30 round mag and an m203 for you. I 'may' be able to score that original weird fake M203 from someone who has one (they were made by Special Effects Unlimited in the late 1970s and aren't like anything commercially available now. In fact they were made before there were any unrestricted M203 look a likes available.) Nowadays everyone uses the Cobray/SWD ones. Good work. MoviePropMaster2008 21:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Walther P99 page
hey bro you might wanna add Rogue (Jet Li) from the movie War in the page
i'm still learning how to edit. apologies
edit: appreciate it :)
Hollowpoint
I've been looking at that Hollowpoint page for a while. I spoke to MT2008 a while ago, and mentioned that we had a bunch of Type 84s in weird configurations and that I was going to restore them. After shooting the one in the classic Type 84 config, I was looking at a stripped barreled receiver and quickly put on some other wood and replaced the standard front site with a type 56 underfolding spike bayonet front end. That barrel's end was milled down anyway (which I don't like but a lot of the military guns were like that). I like threaded barrels so that I can put any flash hider or muzzle brake that I want. I finally got a pic uploaded and now IMFDB is the only site on the entire internet that has the "Hollowpoint rifle" or at least I think. So the short answer is that I made the gun to be identical to the movie gun. Dave Young is a canadian armorer (or at least works 99% of the time in Montreal) and I've seen a lot of weird hybrid guns in the Canadian armorer circles.
American Gangster page
Hey bro in the American Gangster page, it says Denzel Washington is wielding a 1911. But when you go to Denzel's page, it
says Denzel is using the browning hi-power. Please clarify.
the subject of "dibbs"
Don't want to cause controversy, but I am not comfortable with the concept of calling Dibbs on the pages. Since any member or new visitor has the right to make their contributions, it seems like pre=emptively telling new members 'don't touch this page'. Sure you or anyone else can fix someone else's screw ups or replace crappy screen caps with good ones, IMHO it may send the wrong message that there is only the 'elite few' who can touch some pages. Sure, I don't like it when people "fix" the pages that I worked on (especially the ones that were blank before I spent my time fixing it), but I do have the power (as do you) to remove inaccurate or silly input. I have replaced low res or bad screencaps (look at what I did on "The spirit") and it didn't bother me when someone rushed out an redid the "Iron man" page before I could get to it (I Pre-ordered and purchased the DVD just for screengrabbing purposes, but my job got busy, and someone beat me to it and I didn't mind because they did a good job). Anyway, that's my opinion. You do a great job on screencaps (albeit I'm one of those that think there are too many images of the exact same gun on the page, but that's just my opinion. Others like Alienqueen for example, seem to love the many images, so who knows?) Hopefully we can encourage and guide new members to make good screen caps and contributions as well. anyway that's just an opinion. I think we can always see if new members want to try their hand at working on pages. Chances are most won't, so we will end up doing it anyway. But I would prefer the 'perception' that we encourage people of 'good intentions' (versus the idiot vandals) to contribute to the site. Anyway, thats just an opinion. Would be happy to hear your thoughts. MoviePropMaster2008 21:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Check it out
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
MoviePropMaster2008 01:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.
There you go, I cut the black bars off the Hostage screenshots for you, I really like that Two Tone Beretta 92FS, I asked MPM2008 if he could get a picture of one like that. Anyway, the screenshots may look wierd at first, but that will fix itself soon. Great work on Hot Fuzz so far.--Alienqueen11 02:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
It always does that when I do an image overwrite, don't know why though. It will look distorted or squished, or still look like the old image for a little while before it finally changes to the newer version.--Alienqueen11 02:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
fun gun
thought you'd get a kick out of this... ;) You being someone who knows a lot about guns and does a lot of firearms research, you'd know how rare this one is. hahahahah :)
Well you wouldn't see it in any American weapons catalogue. :) It was issued only to German Paratroopers of Nazi germany. Very few were made and BTW they're full auto guns. Imagine firing a rifle at your shoulder that dumps a 20 round box magazine of full sized 8mm Mauser rounds (!) on another note, I've been trying to get pics of the imperial Japanese guns (like the Type 100 or Type 97 MGs) for a while now. Stembridge used to have tons of them :( you know, I make a note of some of the pages you do, and the ones with lots of details, I make a list to try and get good examples of the guns. I still can't get a stainless 5906. But I'll still keep trying. I like your Hot fuzz page. Usually I try to get the gun to look just like the ones used in the movie (like the AMD-65 I did for the Rambo III page or the "Hollowpoint" Type 84). MoviePropMaster2008 05:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Excellent work!!
Congratulations for your work on Hot Fuzz, it's wonderfully done!
Movies to screengrab
I sure hope Mr. & Mrs Smith and TAPS are on your list. I am more curious which version of Mr. & Mrs. Smith you might have. I now know there are two (2) versions. the one I have is the original theatrical release, which is missing about 5 minutes of battle scenes from the television cut. I hope you have the other one, or have access to it. There are firearms shots in the longer version that I can't screen grab. best regards MoviePropMaster2008 03:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Screencaps
I sure hope you can replace those Bootleg Tropic Thunder screencaps with your legal ones asap ;) I always cringe when I see bootleg DVD images (especially those from China). Looking forward to it.
Remington 870
Do you recall any film that has an 870 with a long hunting barrel? I recall seeing one on the site but it doesn't come up in a search. Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008 20:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. Yes, it was the UNIT that I saw the use, but I'm pretty surprised that we haven't seen more long barreled 870s in Movies or TV. They're so ubiquitous. MoviePropMaster2008 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Morita Rifle
Sorry about the page. Funny that we were working on the same page at exactlyi the same time. hahaha. Well I got some original props from the movie, including my own rig from the battle scenes (but I'm too fat now to fit into it anymore hahahaha). My own Morita Rifle from the movie is pretty beat up, but now I have motivation to repair it and photograph it for the continuing Glory of IMFDB. Hope you're feeling better :) regards MoviePropMaster2008 03:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Bangkok Dangerous
I used the High Def Internet trailer for Bangkok Dangerous to screen grab, so they're not bootleg images. I have not seen this movie, but I am unsure about some of my Gun Identifications. Just dropping a line, since I replaced some of your screengrabs. regards MoviePropMaster2008 05:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
tropic thunder
I'll try to get you a Colt Sporter II in the exact configuration of Tropic Thunder very soon. It's on my list of things to do (along with redoing all the Colt carbine shots with the new digital camera (some of the older shots were with an old film camera and scanned on a flat bed scanner). Also you're right about the closeness of the blank firing pistol to be dangerous, but it's not that bad. The rule of thumb is 15 feet (but we try to get them to divert the angle so it's off axis and we also warn them that unburnt powder can still hit your eyes.). In the shot with Jack Black, it doesn't look too bad. We've done closer than 15 feet, but we take special precautions. MoviePropMaster2008 21:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
590
BTW, hope you don't mind, but I'm replacing your low rez image of the 590 with my own. MoviePropMaster2008 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
The Dark side of movie guns
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. MoviePropMaster2008 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
You're not gonna believe this
I MAY have tracked down a custom .577 T-Rex to photograph. Still want it? Since they are usually custom built, some of the minor design details might be slightly different. normally I wouldn't care, but I was looking through a rack of another guy's armory and I asked "what's that gun?" and he quipped, oh a .577..... It just doesn't have a scope mounted yet. MoviePropMaster2008 19:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
On some of your pics
Hope you don't mind, on some of your gun pics (the guns I don't have access to just yet) I was going to 'color correct' them and remove some of the excessive 'white space' around them. I was just going to get rid of any 'greenish' or yellow or bluish tints and make the colors more correct and reload them. So if you see some pics that have been reloaded, some of them are just the same pic but 'color corrected'. regards. MoviePropMaster2008 18:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Smokin' Aces
Hey GM45, do you by any chance have Smokin' Aces? If you do, is there a possibility you can put it on your to do list? Not that you have to screencap it, I'm just asking because that page is in need of better screenshots. And don't worry, I'll chop the black bars off some of the screencaps eventually.--Alienqueen11 03:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
New screencaps
GREAT job on the Crank screen grabs. Are you doing Blu ray now? :) MoviePropMaster2008 04:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Workload
hahahaha. Well i got my massive GUNS to photograph to do list ;) I've photographed over 200 guns so far.... It sure doesn't seem like it but I looked at my 'transfered to IMFDB folder' and there are about 207 images that were taken from original photographs. What's killing me right now is that I can get to the cool vintage western stuff, but the guys are so hard to get a hold of. regards... MoviePropMaster2008 04:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Happy Thanksgiving
Hope you're eating well :) regards 76.199.198.193 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Re:U.S. Marshals
Yeah, sure, that would be fine. Mine are OK, but kinda low-res. I would definitely prefer higher-res alternative. Also note that some of my shots don't appear on the page itself (i.e. the shot of Robert Downey Jr. with his Glock-22 which I took for the actor page). -MT2008 17:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
anonymous users
It's a very simple change to block anonymous users from making any edits, how to stop them from just making new pages I haven't quite figured out... I think we may just try disallowing edits from anonymous users for a while - my worry is that we will lose potential newcomers who may not understand they have to register first, I'll need to figure out a way to display a message to anonymous users that they must register first... I'm working on it. bunni 20:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. It's a bottle with gasoline in it. It's not manufactured or crafted, like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.
Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.
Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.
Since you made it and put effort into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO MoviePropMaster2008 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Molotovs
Thanks for the explanation. :) I figured it was something like that. MoviePropMaster2008 21:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
.PNG Images
Yeah, I use .pngs in place of traditional .jepgs. They take a while to load, but they're a lot clearer and less pixelated, and with the low res 90s movies I build pages for, I need all the clarity I can get.
Thinking of overwriting some of the Thompson Pics
I was just giving you the heads up, since one of the uploaded pics of Thompsons is one you uploaded. I was going to overwrite it with one of these. Let me know if you have any objections. I am also adding the M1s and M1A1s when I get a chance. MoviePropMaster2008 02:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.
The page on IMDFB. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi
Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode) http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf
Your thoughts and opinions on the matter are appreciated. MoviePropMaster2008 08:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
the other Glock
Can you take a look at the other Glock in my Resident Evil page? I'm trying to see if it's a Glock 26.
Alien Nation
I think you're right about the shotgun. I'm going to change it. MoviePropMaster2008 06:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Re: Jingle All the Way
Thanks for the compliments on Jingle All the Way. I actually have a VHS copy of this movie and saw it this evening on TV. I might try to snag the DVD to screencap it, but if anyone else has it they're free to do so themselves if they wish. Orca1 9904 05:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
The Dark Knight
I think Gunner313 basically just adds pictures he got off other sites, he said he does before. You can still do The Dark Knight, you're one of the best screencappers on here, if you really want to screencap it, you should.--Alienqueen11 20:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page?
Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time Excalibur01
- I was using Microsoft Paint and then realize I could crop the wide screen effect. Excalibur01 00:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I can't be nice anymore
Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. Excalibur01 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, anime deserves to be on this site just as much as games. Most of them were drawn from concept to the us watching them, down to the very details. Gunslinger girls, Ghost in the Shell, Black Lagoon. The artists of those series took their time and effort to make then guns that appear to be as authentic as possible when they can and that in itself deserves respect in a site like this dedicate to cataloging guns from movies and shows we've seen. Anime that do draw the guns so realistic deserves to be on the same respect level as we respect the armorers for the movies and shows. Anime is a real work of art. These flash animations are just attempts at art and failing, only providing us with cheap and a lot of time free entertainment.
- Yes, I know which anime you are talking about. I don't know why we allow stuff from the Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, and South Park...But it's not as bad as flash animation. Excalibur01 02:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
My airsoft
So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. Excalibur01 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Predator
BTW: Fantastic work on the Predator page. It is very impressive and informative. :) MoviePropMaster2008 19:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Got it for you
Got a pic of one of the DIE HARD HK94 conversions. The third firing position (2) was stamped after the fact (and is shallower than the factory etched "0" and "1". This one is from the rack of movie guns used for AIR FORCE ONE :) thought you might get a kick out of it. Actually I had this in a folder of pics I had shot six months ago and I totally forgot that I had it. :) :)MoviePropMaster2008 03:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
T2
I will review it in detail later re the length or the trivia, but at a glance it looks very interesting :) . But I did make a note to myself take pics of the Colt Sporters used in the film. I got those configurations. You were right in that the slab side is just a Colt Sporter Carbine with the barrel chopped down. The "Commando" with the forward assist is the Colt Sporter II, again converted. I also have to replace some of my M16 pics since they are 'custom' guns that aren't indicative of the 'classic' models (like the 733, etc.)
BTW: I replaced the USP45 amongst other guns. I am also working on new FNC pics. The problem is that there are multiple versions of the FNC. The ones imported into the U.S. were the (a) FNC 223 Rem Sporter (the semi auto import version with a bayonet lug and thin sling ring), (b) the later model FNC 223 Rem Sporter with NO bayonet lug and thicker forward sling ring, (c) the FNC Para Sporter. Then there is the real deal, the Belgian full auto FNC Early model and the FNC Para model. And now there is a newer model FNC rifle with some design changes and the newer model FNC Para rifle. More modern movies filmed overseas would have the all Belgian guns. American movies would have the U.S. Imported variants. I'm trying to get pics of each type.
Check this out: :) You're the FIRST to see this puppy! :)
MoviePropMaster2008 08:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Screencaps on Commando
I know you like pages with tons and tons and tons of screencaps (so does Alienqueen, I think). And I've made it obvious in the past that I really don't like having so many screencaps on a page. I think it makes the page massive and unwieldy and hard to look at. But that's my opinion and my taste. I prefer to have no more than four images on a page. Recently some member added TONS of pics to my Dogs of War page. Way TOO many images and I think it made the page look clumsy. But I would appreciate NOT adding tons of new screencaps to pages that I essentially built up myself, just like I wouldn't delete any of the photos for the pages that you did from scratch. It's just a matter of taste, I know, but I don't like having a lot of pics of the same gun over and over again. I think it belabors the point and (especially for members with slower internet connections) it slows down the viewing of the page. (case in point, I thought that having over fourteen screenshots of Bruce willis and his M1911 in Last Man Standing was just too much, but that was your page and I'm not prone to criticize based on my "page layout" sensibilities. I hope you understand my point and thanks for all the hard work you've done on the site. Thanks and best regards MoviePropMaster2008 02:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Got it, finally :)
Now I will be updating with this pic. :) MoviePropMaster2008 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
RE:The Dirty Dozen and Great Escape.
You can do it.I don´t mind.Oliveira 11:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
RE:The Dirty Dozen
Would you mind terribly telling me why you replaced EVERYTHING that I put on the page for "The Dirty Dozen"??? I admit the page was not as detailed as it could have been but where do you get off COMPLETELY DELETING everything that I put on there??? --Charon68 05:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Charon68
Re: Scarface
I'll try to get more shots for Scarface when I get the chance. I've seen the Fate of Legions blog, and I agree it's cool. Great job on Mail Call so far.--Alienqueen11 04:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I noticed, I enjoy checking your User page to see what you're going to do next, and I can't wait to see Mail Call and SNAFU when you're done. Anything with Gunny is worth checking out. And also, I am getting really tired of Anonymous users deleting screenshots and trivial information off pages as with the Colaterial page a few minutes ago. It dosen't hurt to have some trivia, it's what this site is for, and seeing how everybody is protecting their pages, it's only a matter of time before this site can only be edited by registered users.--Alienqueen11 05:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- You are very right, it should be the person who makes the page or an adminstrator who decides what should or should not be on a page, not some anonymous user visiting the site for the first time. And I understand how much time it can take make a page, some of them can take a day to get done. Plus if you think that's bad, look at this guy's edit to Saving Private Ryan:
This made me really pissed.--Alienqueen11 06:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Some of them might, but don't worry about them, they're just anonymous users. They're easily dealt with, plus you do great work. Great job on Mail Call so far, and I'll be sure to check out the Great Escape when it's done.--Alienqueen11 02:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Gunner313
I notice you say Gunner313 uploaded images from Legion's Fate's blog. Where did he do this? I searched his contrib history and didn't see them, so I haven't figured out what you mean. But if you see people doing that kind of shit, do not hesitate to delete the images and give them a severe warning. It makes us look bad. And likewise, same with screencaps from bootlegs. There's no need to have this "I'll let it go just this once" approach - by all means, you've got the right to take action. -MT2008 05:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about the images I have been a member here since it started. I only recently got a computer capable of taking screen caps and playing dvds. I use to make due as best I could to try and add images to this site. Gunner313
24
Will you be around today to screen cap 24 Season 7 on FOX? I heard on your bio you could would maybe in the future start working on 24. I'm a big fan but I don't have screencapping software yet. I'd finally like to have screencaps on 24 the page. -Btracy1994 10:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Re: Lord of War
Eh, depends. Main question is, how many additional screencaps do you want to add? I really would prefer you not add a ridiculous amount of extra screencaps, like 20 shots per gun, the way you've been doing on some of your pages. I think it's been getting a little bit out of control lately, so if you want to work more on that page, I'd rather you limit yourself to something like 6 shots per gun at most. Especially since the Lord of War page is one of the site's most popular.
- I see that I'm not the only one who isn't fond of too many shots of the same gun on a page. It makes the page way too big and unwieldy. I certainly don't love endlessly scrolling down just to see what the NEXT gun entry is. I don't mean to diminish the hard work done, but there is a limit to how many screenshots should be on a gun's section of the page. You've been doing a LOT better in reigning in the sheer number of screencaps. I must give fair warning any additional screenshots on pages that I've done 99% of the work on, I reserve the right to start editing out images if I think there are too many of them. Anyway, other than that issue, you've done tons of great work. I was thinking of requesting that members start taking a second look at orphaned pages, i.e. pages with no screenshots at all before we start adding tons of new pages. MoviePropMaster2008 04:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Also, which guns did I miss? The only ones I forgot to make an entry for are the M16A1 with A2 handguards and the Galil AR used by two of the Lebanese militiamen. I suppose I could also make a section for the inside of Yuri's container, although most of the guns in there are guns that appear elsewhere in the movie. -MT2008 00:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Tyrannasaurus
It was Alienqueen's second account... we were doing some testing working out some bugs after moving servers last year. bunni 06:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks for helping with my Sopranos page- everytime I watch an episode I try and screencap and figure out what's what. I'm sure I'm still a good bit off from finishing it, but I appreciate your comments! - Speakeasy804
A little help
I just started my Police Story 3: Supercop page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? Excalibur01 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Question About Bond Actor Category
I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, Halle Berry & Honor Blackman) and villians (such as Robert Carlyle & Gert Fröbe)? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. Orca1 9904 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
The Godfather
Thanks, The Godfather is a great movie deserving of a full imfdb page! To answer your question about the gun used in the "Leave the gun..." scene, I tried to see what it was when I was screencapping it a few nights ago but I believe the shot was too far away to capture one. It's possible that some DVD players might be able to zoom in with a good enough resolution to see what it might be, but mine doesn't have the capability. I wish you luck finding it though, I'd be curious to know myself! - Speakeasy804
re: The Departed
Blocked him already. I don't tolerate this kind of bullshit at all when it's some random guy who has never made a useful contribution.
Sorry I've been away for so long...just got back from DC. I'll look over what's transpired the last few days. But nice job on Get Smart! -MT2008 00:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I was actually in DC for Obama's inauguration, as I told MPM in a brief post to his wall. And no, I am not at all a fan of our new President, and less so the VP. But my Mom (who is a liberal) was really excited and wanted me to come, and you know...I couldn't hurt Mom's feelings. Plus, my boss at the law firm where I work (also one of my Mom's friends) was able to book me at a really nice hotel (the Sofitel, where Edward Norton and Dennis Hopper also stayed), and I got two days off from work, and I got to hang out in DC for the first time in over 10 years. So, regardless of how I feel about our country swearing in its most left-wing President ever, the trip was still worthwhile.
- Oh, yeah, and the best part is...Obama's speech really was inspiring to me. It has inspired me to save more and more of my paychecks so that I can buy that nice new M4gery I've always wanted to own...before he and Biden ban them forever. -MT2008 00:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Good suggestions!
Thanks, I'd always been a big fan of The Getaway (1972) so I decided to start re-screencapping it. I could do a few more but I wasn't sure on the protocol on replacing another user's images. (Also, thanks for adding the year; I have a DVD of the 1994 version coming in the mail so I'll be screencapping that as well. I hear it's not quite as up to par as the other but any movie is worth an article here). And yeah, I should probably add some info. I have a huge list of movies I plan on building/screencapping/improving, etc. so it'd be better if I got that name up there in blue. Thanks! - Speakeasy804
- That would be awesome if you could protect it. Thanks! Speakeasy804
- I appreciate that, I'll try and add more once I can think of anything remotely interesting about myself. -Speakeasy804
re: The Untouchables
Thanks! Whenever you get a chance, do you think you might be able to review some of the Model 10s and shotguns on there? I'm wondering if a few of the revolvers listed as Model 10s are something else (though nothing I could quickly identify) and I just want to make sure I got the shotguns straight (I only know a few things about differentiating 1897s from 1912s). Thank you and good luck with Mail Call! - Speakeasy804
- Thank you for the revolver help. I knew the front sight was off, as well as other things on the frame, but I didn't want to make a poor guess. I believe you're right about the Police Positives. Thanks again! - Speakeasy804
Mail Call
Nice photos but the ones that are listed as M1917 on aircraft are not correct. The Machine gun on the Folker EIII is a Maxim LMG08/15 Air Cooled machine gun built by Spandau. The LMG in LMG08/15 stands for Luft Maschinen Gewehr or Air Machine Gun in english.
Nice job on Mail Call. When you get to the episode on the Colt Potato Digger machine gun I have some info on that. Also I will see if I can scan my challenge coin that R. Lee gave me for the site.
The Untouchables
Photo of Nickel pistol held by Kevin Costner and Billy Drago is a Star Model B. The show also had some Colt Official Police .38 revolvers and a Welbey in .455 caliber used by the RCMP.
XXX
Thats a M61 Vulcan mounted under the chopper. The special features in the film has it wrong. There are only two Vulcans in the industry at this time. They have been converted to blank fire and used in Armageddon, XXX and Death Race. I have hadled they and see them and the helicopter mount about once a week. Look at the size of the weapon mounted to the copper and minigun. The gun under the chopper is twice as long as the minigun. Also compare the photo from XXX to the gunship from We Were Soldiers that we had two miniguns mount on.
Video Games
Armorers work on video games consist of four parts. Part one is foley work sound department records every noise the weapons action makes without firing. Part two is live firing the weapon at private range with eight to ten mics surrounding the shooter and several more located down range. Part Three is have each weapon photographed and film in the firing position for the digital modeling. Part Four is firing at items with a suppressed weapon to record impacts for the game. To most people this would sound like a lot of fun but it has to be one of the most stressful events for a armorer since there is no breaks other than to change weapons. Most of the time games have about 20 to 30 different weapons in them and all this is done between one and three days. The shooter can not move, breath or make any noise while firing as the mics will pick it up.
Iron Man CAR15
In the photo with the line of rifles it states it has a commercial CAR15 flash hider. I really it is an M4 carbine with a Surefire suppressor flash hider BFA. I built those BFA's for that show. Phoenixent
M60E1 machine gun
I went back and checked to see if our M60's were of the E1 configuration. We had 18 on We Were Soldiers and they were all standard M60's. Then I checked out a sight that had a photo of the M60E1 and that is completely different system. Check it out at this website http://www.warboats.org/stonerordnotes/M60%20GPMG%20R5.html. -Phoenixent
M1 Garand question
I have a question about the M1-C Garand and M1-D Garand, do you load them like you would the M1 Garand? and does the En Bloc clip pop out of them too after the last round is fired? I'm not sure because the scope seems to right above where the En Bloc clip pops out. Thanks for any answers in advance.--Alienqueen11 04:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Usable pic?
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
best regards MoviePropMaster2008 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC) BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)
Thanks
Thanks for the info, I see how it works now. And yeah,, I don't think I would like a left sided scope either, I would prefer it to be in line with the barrel. And glad to see you're finally able to screencap Shoot Em' Up, can't wait to see it.--Alienqueen11 19:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Request list
I'm going to visit some buddies who have a lot more stuff than I do and I was wondering if you had any more special request pics. I have them on my user page at the top, but I wanted to make sure that you knew that I was 'taking orders' to see if these guys have any pristine versions of these guns that i could photograph. Thanks. Let me know your 'request list'. MoviePropMaster2008 01:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Request list
Good thing you mentioned the Winchester 1866 with the forearm and without, or else I would have forgotten about it. Again, don't know if the guys with these weapons even want to take the time to let me snap some pro photos, but it doesn't hurt to ask. As for the M60, I got one myself and are looking at it right now, but it's fubared, i.e. the plastic trigger group got cracked and I did a patch job on the rear end (and haven't bothered to fully fix it. Also it's REALLY beat up and I am still looking for one in decent shape. Here is a cropped snap shot of it taken some years ago on a movie set. One of the young actors was holding it near the crafts services table and I took a snapshot. here it is. But I will try to fix it up prior to IMFDB photography ;)
- Nope, just an extra. He treated the gun great though. There was always guys who listen to the on set armorer and then there are they guys you gotta watch like a hawk. MPM
Re:Hitman
Actually, I only have the regular Unrated DVD. Mine doesn't seem to come with a whole lot of special features besides Deleted Scenes. If you want to add the screencaps of the armorer showing off the guns, that's fine by me. Also, I think I'm going to keep some of the publicity stills. I prefer to keep those whenever they show a better view of the gun than appears in the movie. -MT2008 21:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Re: Colt Mustang
Thanks for fixing the page up. Been a while since I created one so I have forgotten some of the nuances. User: Charon68
Got a gift for you! ;) More coming
You can do the honors on the movie page... :D I still have more pics to clean up and color correct (and that takes a lot of time)...
Like it? :) MoviePropMaster2008 00:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I will actually be REPLACING some of the existing images with these, so that we don't have to manually update all the linked pages. I will be doing these, but I am giving you a heads up update on what I am uploading....
I got tons more, but I have to clean up the pics.... MoviePropMaster2008 01:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Replacing some of your pics
Hope you don't mind that I will be replacing some of your pics with screen used gun pictures. I have the 5906 from Collateral. ;) MoviePropMaster2008 02:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
More pics
These others were also screen used, but I need to recheck and verify what. BTW, I do 'scramble' the serial numbers (in Photoshop) when they are visible so that nosy people can't track down the original SN for the movie gun. I have TONS more pics, but I don't want to sit here all night. I have another gig to go to :) I also replaced the TEC-9 image with a good one and will be replacing a bunch more. :) MoviePropMaster2008 02:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Re:Your page format
I see what you are talking about with the none instead of left. I was just think about when you have multiple photos of the same weapon to put them next to each other to same some space. I also notice that the photo go all over the place as in the Death Race posting without the left or right. It works on a couple of other wikis but all are different. I will put up a representative photo for each weapon shortly. Thanks. - Phoenixent
SOCOM Mk 23
The Knights Armament Suppressor was not mine, but belonged to a fellow armorer, but he was also a license Title II and Destructive Device Manufacturer, so he had samples of ALL the late generation Suppressors. MoviePropMaster2008 02:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Re:Hitman
It looks great! Nice job! Too bad I didn't get the proper version, but I only spent $7 for this movie (used) at Half-Price Books. I don't think I would have wanted to spend more than that. Anyway, it does seem like this weapons coordinator was kind of a douche. I imagine armorers in Bulgaria aren't really held to the same standards as their American counter-parts.
Oh, yeah, and I think there may be one other weapon type in the film I missed (besides the myriad assortment of handguns on the table at Udre's place which I would never be able to figure out. It looks like two of Udre's guards are using MP7s just before 47 takes them out with his MP5s. -MT2008 02:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Gunner313
Some loser anonymous was vandalizing pages throughout the site one time, and he made Gunner313's user page with a nasty comment on it. Gunner313 is free to make a real user page whenever he wants.--Alienqueen11 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Re: The Iron Giant
I have the movie, although on VHS instead of DVD, otherwise I would have screencapped it. There's some other weapons used by the soldiers (rifles and a pistol fired by Gen. Rogard), but wasn't sure if they were based enough on any real weapons to be included (the rifles looked like the bastard children of an M1 Garand and an M14). If you can screencap the film for me, feel free. Orca1 9904 02:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Shoot 'Em Up.
Great Job on the Shoot 'Em Up page. Just a couple of quick thoughts:
- Don't be so hard on the movie. The entire thing was basically one feature-length Looney Tunes cartoon...if Quentin Tarantino had written one.
- Doesn't Smith use a USP Compact during his sex scene with DQ/shootout, or is that the same USP? If so, then I'm going to assume that you don't have shots of that...for obvious reasons. --Clutch 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
push
Per your request, I got as many gun pics as I could from the HD trailer. Check out the Push page. I haven't seen the movie so my guesses are just guesses. MoviePropMaster2008 09:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Legends of the Fall
Hi, I congratulate you for you work! Can you post the movie "Legends of the Fall" and the firearms used in this film? Sorry for my bad english.
Legends of the Fall (again)
Hi again, maybe I don`t write correctly. I trying to say: "can you do Legends of the Fall"? I saw you are realy good and know a lot about firearms.But I have bad english and I don´t know much about firearms, I am learning. It`s a request if its no bother to you. I hope do you understand what I trying to say you. Sorry again for my english.
shotgun in Thunderball
Hey I just posted screenshots from Thunderball and there was a ribbed barrel shotgun (which I believe was a Remington 870) in some scenes. I remember you had some pictures of an incredible 870 Wingmaster and I was wondering if you could look at the shots I took from TB and tell me if they're at all similar, just so I'd know how to categorize it. Thanks! - Speakeasy804
- Thanks, that should be a great help! I won't label anything clearly until we know for sure but I'll do some looking into it myself as well now that I'm not searching blindly - Speakeasy804
Tanks for your answer
Tanks for your answer about Legends of the fall. My first language is Spanish, I´m from Argentina. My English is basic, sometimes I forgot the past simple or the future, and sometimes I need help from google translate, but I hope improve in English and learn more about firearms. I wait craving for Legends of the fall. Tanks.
SIG
Whoops, sorry if I missed that. Anyway, the answer is that yes, "SIG-Sauer" is correct. SIG is an acronym for Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft (Swiss Industrial Society), while Sauer is shorthand for the German firm J. P. Sauer und Sohn GmbH. In other words, "SIG" is an acronym, while "Sauer" is not, so it's appropriate to capitalize all letters of "SIG". And if I ever see people who don't capitalize it, I always correct it. -MT2008 23:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Rundown
Well I have no problem with posting screencaps of guns that are not what I already posted. As I proposed in the 'rules' suggestion in the forum, that this being a Wiki, we should be prepared that our screengrabs 'could' be replaced at any time with something of markedly 'superior' quality. However, if you open that can of worms, just remember that in all fairness, I or other users could also replace any of your screengrabs on any page you built when we please as well. I am glad you asked, but unless the existing screencap is just crap, it doesn't seem appropriate to replace it. MoviePropMaster2008 18:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Blank revolver question
My talk page is too big and I can't find the blank revolver question so please post it again. Sorry, but my own discussion page is just too massive to scan (I should do some cleanup to make it shorter). MoviePropMaster2008 18:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Shit
I just did an edit on The Rundown while you are still editing. A useless one, too. Please make sure you don't lost the edits you're doing now... -MT2008 19:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Norinco SKS Sporter
Rosario Dawson doesn't have an SKS-D. She has a Norinco SKS Sporter which has the thumbhole stock and the shorter paratrooper barrel. the SKS-M is nearly identical but the ones marked "Sporter" have a slightly different thumbhole design (and which model she has exactly is hard to see because her hand is in the buttstock nearly all the time), but both the SKS-M and the "Norinco SKS Sporter" are thumbhole, paratrooper length barreled SKS designed to take factory AK mags, like the D model. The D Model is a standard full length SKS that takes AK mags. Frankly, I've never seen these in any real foreign warzone. Only at gunshows in the U.S. But the SKS-D was used by Chinese police alot in the 1980s and 1990s.
Blank revolvers
Don't know what you mean about the primers, but we don't adapt any revolvers to fire blanks. No need to. I have never had a problem with primers unless the loading process was messed up or the blanks were bad. Also recoil (too much or not enough) should have no effect on the primers. So I have fired hundreds of different revolvers with literally thousands of blanks (everything from .45 LC - .38 sp - 44 mag - .357 mag - .38 short - etc. etc. ) and never ran into any difficulty. What type of blanks were you firing? MPM
The Rundown
BTW, spectacular job on filling out the rest of the Rundown. Though (as expected per MY personal tastes) there are more screencaps than I would have done per gun, you really scoured that movie for every single solitary firearm in it. You caught guns that I didn't even know were in the film! Good job. MoviePropMaster2008 04:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Shootemup
I was just wondering. Why are the master screenshots so massive? 1062 pixels? on some of them. Didn't you used to edit master shots so that they were smaller? Just curious. MoviePropMaster2008 06:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Legends of the Fall
I corrected your discription of the weapons that Brad Pitt is carrying over his shoulder. The weapon is a Holland and Holland 10ga. Paradox used to hunt big game with 10 gauge slug. The barrels are smoth bores except for the final 2 inches before the muzzle were they are rifled. It is a rare weapon as most of which have been destroyed due over pressure from the unique design. I built the buttplate for that weapon as the wanted a brass buttplate on it. The weapon came form Ellis Mercantile- Phoenixent
- I will check my old photo from Ellis to see if I have one. Holland and Holland were going to reissue the Paradox with different material for the barrels and new style rifling. The bullets were cast in the prop shop at Ellis using a pattern I made on the lathe and glued into original brass 10ga shells.
Street Kings
Hey,
I was just wondering if you'd be OK letting me add a few more shots to the Street Kings page. And I literally just mean a few:
- (1.) Two more shots (good ones) of Tom Ludlow with his S&W 4506.
- (2.) A better shot of Diskant with his Glock 17 when he and Tom go to the house where the real Fremont and Coates are buried.
- (3.) A shot of the fake Fremont reaching for his own Glock (which looks to be another -17) when Tom kills him during the climactic shootout.
Would that be OK?
Also, I watched the scene again where Tom kills the Koreans, and as best I can tell, the S&W 4506's muzzle flashes are not digitally added. The gun cycles and ejects spent blanks, just as I would expect. --MT2008 18:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Tried to make it a little bit darker, but weirdly, I can't do it without really ruining the detail. Are you sure it matters if mine are a bit lighter? In daylight scenes, it's pretty hard to tell.
- Got shots of the R9, as well as more of the armory guns (there are M4s as well as M16s in there). I still couldn't figure out what kind of shotgun Coates (Common) uses, or the Korean slaver. Your guesses are as good as mine. -MT2008 01:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Unforgiven Shotgun
Hi
The Colt 1878 Shotgun you have listed for the show is incorrect. The shotgun is a 10 gauge supplied by Ellis Mercantile for the film. I will check tomorrow for the manufacturer and check for a photo of the shotgun for you. Nice job on the page I took care of all those weapons before the sale. - Phoenixent
Dust hit gun
It's called a Sweeney gun and I have used it. The best features of that gun are the constant air feed and the variable full auto fire mode. The Dust balls are basically clear transparent paint ball containers that are full of 'Fuller's earth'. I don't use the Sweeney gun. It's basically a really EXPENSIVE paintball gun. I opt to use a standard paintball gun myself and shoot much closer to the action, but don't tell anyone that. It's way cheaper. Also those dust balls are really expensive. (think about 2$ a shot) As are the "Sparking" balls. Special effects houses also make full glass balls (these are all the same size as paintballs) which are designed to shatter windows and then the glass balls shatter themselves, thus 'masking' the source of the shatter (good for people's houses that you don't like) and metallic balls which blow out Car windows. MPM
Review on Wanted
You asked me a long time ago to review your WANTED page, and I deferred, primarily because I glanced at it briefly and saw that it might have spoilers. Now that I have seen the film I went back to the page. You did a lot of hard work and it shows. Also I was a bit horrified at the sheer amount of spoilers in the page. I would never DELETE a photo of yours on a page you built, since that seems to be an unwritten rule. I WILL delete unnecessary photos on pages that I built. I am probably going to delete all pics of Kenneth Johnson from my Rambo page ... this guy was just the head propmaster. He wasn't the armorer and this guy doesn't know anything about guns. All the armorers I know are disgusted and he (being the glory hound that he is) insisted on doing the DVD Featurette commentary on guns. the real armorers aren't even mentioned, which disgusted me. Anyway, back to topic, I would request that you remove the pics of Cross dying in that it is a major spoiler. I fixed some of the written spoilers in that I think that the page doesn't suffer if we don't know the plot twists. Like revealing that Darth Vader is Luke's father, some of these points aren't necessary. I was actually really glad I avoided the page previously since I was actually surprised at the betrayal and truth. I was surprised who Cross really was and what his motivation was. I was surprised at Fox's true test of faith and sacrifice and I was happy at the comeuppance of Sloan (the decoy surprised me completely). The entire movie experience would have been ruined if I had all those plot twists spoiled for me. For people looking up the guns (who have seen the film already), the non-spoiler explanations are good enough and clearly show what guns were in the film. Anyway, that was my input and opinion. Other than my own gripes with spoilers in general, excellent work on the page. MoviePropMaster2008 07:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
watermark
excellent work on the watermark. It is a very attractive watermark. I tried a watermark already, once, and I didn't like how it looked in thumbnails. Who knows, I might start to like it in the future, but right now, I DO have hidden electronic tags in all my files (which a savvy tech person can remove, but it takes a level of skill that most pirates don't bother to develop). But I like the idea of the watermark for images I approve to be ALLOWED on other sites, like Wikipedia. As for IMFDB, I am content to (a) initially mark the files as copyrighted to IMFDB and also (b) have the invisible eletronic tags on the files themselves that outline ownership and license. Many high end programs can read this. the latest versions of Photoshop can read the electronic copyright on a file. BTW, that one wikipedia pirate got booted for stealing all those images from us at IMFDB, and he got banned. :) MoviePropMaster2008 00:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up
Group message cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen1 I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is the definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) MoviePropMaster2008 04:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
some Westerns
Hey, I've been working on the pages for some Westerns and I heard you were the go-to guy on IMFDB for that sort of thing. I was wondering if you could look at my page for The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford and maybe see if there's anything I messed up. I figured it's your forte so if anyone would be able to fix it up, it would be you. Also I'm right now working on American Outlaws which has quite a number of Western guns as well, so I could let you know when I finish that and whenever you have time you might be able to check through and correct some of my inevitable errors haha. Thanks in advance - Speakeasy804
re: Boondock Saints
Dude, armory scenes in movies always suck to do on IMFDB. And the one in "Boondock Saints" is probably one of the worst, even worse than Hard Boiled or The Matrix. I have an AVI rip of that movie on my external HD, and I don't think I've even managed to ID everything in that scene yet myself. I know you've already one-upped me if you saw the M79, because I don't recall that one and I've only seen the movie like, oh, 50 times. (Trust me when I say that if you ever go to college in the Northeast, especially a college where the student body is mostly of Irish descent, you will be watching that movie on an extremely regular basis, not even by choice necessarily.) But, it sounds like you're working hard, so I applaud you for that.
As far as movies I plan to do, I'm trying to decide what to rent on iTunes right now that I haven't seen in a while (or not at all). I want to watch something tonight because I know I won't have time tomorrow (I'll be going to Houston and not getting back home until Sunday morning). I'm thinking about saving myself some money and working on two "gangsta" movies I used to like when I was in high school - Menace II Society and Belly. -MT2008 03:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey I was just watching The Boondock Saints and noticed a gun you didn't include. I'm watching a full-screen version sadly, but at roughly 00:18:51 movie time (This is when Agent Smecker is in the police station and the MacManus brothers turn themselves in) There's a shot where you get a very clear view of a revolver in a shoulder holster on Detective Greenly. I figured since you built the page you'd want to add the screen and all. Hope that helps. - Diego Wolfwood
Yeah no rush, just thought I'd let you know. - Diego Wolfwood
Titles starting with 'The' ....
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of "The Shining" (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be "Shining, The". I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.
I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....
(edit: I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think MT2008 had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Let me know what you think) :)
Update on the new gun pics.... I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.MoviePropMaster2008 06:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Title change
Well we all can disagree on somethings, I've always hated how our listing alphabetized on "the" as a "T". I think that's just stupid, since nearly everyone ignores "The" when looking for a title. Libraries do it, Video stores do it and I get pissed when I look for "The Dark Knight" but instinctively look in the 'D' section and see nothing. I've hated it since I joined the site, but also recently I've shown this site to famous armorers, and when their first comment is "great site, but sorting by "the", that's stupid" was the motivation I had to get off my ass and fix it. Heck, Mike Papac hated it. So I will still change the titles. I think you will find it easier to find movie pages as well. Thanks for your understanding. MoviePropMaster2008 20:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Winchester 1897
Hey John
I was working on that right now. The Trench Gun photo although it is nice was not correct for some of those films. Just trying to help out on correcting an error. Just taking time to do. Also I discovered that there was two different 1897 Trench guns on IMFDB as samples that was the on was better than the other. - Phoenixent
- Hey John, I just checked the links on both images Riot Guns and Trench Guns and did not see any errors on the pages. The sample matched the screen caps on them if I missed one late last night I am sorry. - Phoenixent
Appaloosa
Hey John Since you are a Western Fan did you see this movie yet? When you do the page let me know as I built the 8 gauge for it and have photos for you. Also I got the okay to photograph the 10 gauge shotgun from Unforgiven will have them for you next week. The manufacturer of the shotgun is W. Richards originally owned by Ellis Mercantile and sold in 1999.
- No problem John on the Win 97. Great job on the westerns as for the Lonesome Dove Series thats a lot of ground. I worked on the guns for the prequel and Streets of Laredo. The same prop department did both shows and he picked several guns that I can track down for you. I hope you like everything I have been posting so far. Thanks - Phoenixent
- Hey John, Thanks for the heads up I posted a photo of the shotgun when I finished it. I also put a thread for the shotgun I am not sure if or when they will be used again as Gibbons Ltd. was sold to ISS at the end of last year. I took photos of the fabrication of these shotguns it was a cool project but as everything Hollywood it had to be done quick. -Phoenixent
Mr & Mrs Smith
You can go ahead and do it. You know I am just hoping you don't go crazy with the screencaps. YOU DO have an amazing ability to catch guns that I miss. I just had to prove that the Widow maker wasn't some existing launcher that was slightly modified, to another member. Also, I noticed that your recent Matrix shots are very big but are low resolution, so they look a little fuzzy. Were these done on another computer? Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008 03:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Matrix
Sorry. Didn't mean to slam Matrix pics so much. But I did notice the image size versus the file size and it was kinda low resolution. They didn't look bad, but remember when some of your screencaps were so awesome that I actually thought you had bought a Blu-ray machine! :) I uploaded some pics very similar to your screencaps for comparison. Maybe Matrix is a fuzzy movie (A Bridge Too Far was maddening since it seemed like the entire movie was filmed through a layer of gauze) I did notice that the Matrix shots are still a little 'squished'. Maybe its an optical illusion, but maybe they look fuzzier because they aren't as bright. For some reason, my screencapping software has bright output and (IMHO) a little sharper image. Let me know what you think. But I know you can do it since I've seen your bright screencaps before. :)
BTW: you did an amazing job on the Matrix page. Especially with the Virtual Armory. MoviePropMaster2008 04:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Admins
FYI I am not for making any more people Admins until they've been on the site for a longer time. I'm not being weird about it, but we're seeing a lot of good contributors and unfortunately a lot of 'energetic but wrong' contributors. I want to give ALL new members a probation period to see how they work out. Also, I've noticed that some energetic new members are slowly changing the formats of pages, away from what the original Admins have been doing. MPM2008
- Sure, no problem. He seems reasonable and listens to input from us Admins, which is a good thing. Also he is patient and doesn't fly off the handle, something we need more of, being that the Internet makes things more hostile than they really are... ! :) I was just making sure since we seem to be getting a lot more 'active' users, and some of them have 'uneven' accuracy histories. :) MPM
Speakeasy804
I just granted him sysop privileges - thanks for the recommendation, I think he's been a great contributor to the community. bunni 00:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thank you for the recommendation, I greatly appreciate it! I've got a full list of movies lined up so I'll certainly be keeping myself busy! - Speakeasy804
Need your help here
Since YOU have the eagle eyes. I'm not sure WHAT the silenced pistols are that John Smith has. See the screenshots. They are definitely two toned guns with the lower grips black and the upper Stainless....
Here are the candidates that people suggested:
What do you think? :) MoviePropMaster2008 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
You might get a kick out of this
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
- When I saw this, I felt like a kid in some kind of store - Swordfish941
MoviePropMaster2008 21:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Quote on Mr & Mrs Smith
Who keeps on reverting my correction for John's quote? I played it five times to verify what he is saying, even though Pitt is mumbling when he speaks, he distinctly says "You should not be allowed to buy these things." I also turned on the closed caption as well to prove what the guy is saying. He never says anything about "kids".
Anyway, excellent work so far on the page. I noticed that you noticed too that there are NO good pics of the KTR rifle that Jane uses... :( MoviePropMaster2008 20:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Colt 25?
I'm asking you since you know a lot about older firearms. Isn't the Colt 25 as listed on IMFDB the same as the Colt Model 1908 Vest pocket? I think it's the same gun, but I wanted independent verification. I ask because I hate it when I shoot a custom pic for IMFDB (so as not to violate anyone's copyright) and other members STILL upload 'jacked' images off of Google of the SAME GUN, undoing the point of getting licensed images for IMFDB (versus violating someone else's copyright). Anyway I wanted to make sure that these were the same pistol. Thanks for your expertise. MPM http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_25 http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:Colt25.jpg http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket
Imagine if you will.......
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
MPM2008
Re: Sgt. York
Hey John, Thanks for the help on that I will go ahead and setup the pages that way. - Phoenixent
- Hey John, Check out how I did on Sgt.York and let me know if I got it right.
- Also what listing do you have a sample of this --M1911-- (substituting equal signs) that way I can take a look at it. - Phoenixent
- Okay I think I got it. I added to the the description on the Luger and removed the link on the titles and the excess wording in the Luger photo. - Phoenixent
MM Smith Unknown 1911 Variant
Hey John, I believe the 1911 shown is a Mile High Armory custom built 45 pistol. I also looks like a left hand 1911 as I can not see the slide stop or thumb safety on the side with the ejection port like a Randall left handed 1911. Check out http://www.milehigharmory.com they have a photo of a Randell. - Phoenixent
- Check under portfolio for the photos of their work. - Phoenixent
Pages Lock Out
Hey John, I know when you are completely done with a page some of the Mod's lock them out. I figure that way no one can mess with their Pet. But why lock out the actors pages associated with that show? The actors associated with The Wild Geese can not be accessed to add information and other shows since they worked more than one show. I thought the whole purpose of this wiki is to get the most complete information on the Show,Actor and Weapon possible. Please help out on this. Thanks - Phoenixent
- Thanks - Phoenixent
1911's and other models.
Thanks for your message. Very nice. Don't worry about how some cops might think you're a smart ass. We all tend to be that way when it comes to teenagers.Teenagers and cops are like oil and water. But usually once we see that you're on the level we tend to change our tone.Take me for example. I'm an old cop. At 41 I tend to come across as an old grouchy fart to kids, but I do warm up.
I grew up in a 1911 household. My father was also a cop as well as a Vietnam veteran. Though he carried the S&W Model 28 and later the S&W Model 65 as his sidearms he was (is) all about 1911's. At one point he owned seven of them. He's now down to a 1911A1, Colt Commander and a Colt Officers Model.
Even though I appreciate what John Browning accomplished with the 1911, and aknowledge it's strengths (i.e. it's excellent grip), I've just never taken a liking to it. When it comes to autos I prefer the "classic" Sig design, Glock and Beretta. I'm also fond of the Browning Hi-Power so Mr. Browning's pistol designs do have some influence with me.
However I'm a big fan of revolvers. I own many many wheelguns. Smith & Wessons make up the bulk of my collection, but there are a couple Colts and a Webley Mk VI - which is my pride and joy.
I've been a gun-nut almost all of my life so you are not unusual at your age. I'm a firearms instructor at my department as well. Combine my interest of firearms with my love of movies and many of my fellow officers look at me like I'm some type of whacko. But whne they have a question about guns, movies or need help improving their pistol score guess who they come looking for?
Talk to you later. Jcordell
Oh one more thing. I downloaded an image of a Savage 99 rifle. I even figured out how to create a page, but how do I get the image to show up on the page? I have a link but no photo. Help me out partner. Please. Jcordell
Thanks for your help
Appreciate it. HAve to help us old guys out now and again. Jcordell Ah - ha! Got it.
The lever action rifle dosen't deliver the same type of accuracy as a bolt action. But it's fast and easy for lefties (like me) to use with ease. Plus there is the historical signifance.
Winchester Model 1895
I live in Idaho. Last summer Imade it down to Provo, Utah and went to the Browning museum. Also went and saw the old Browning shop. I mentioned that I don't really care for the 1911. But I do enjoy the Hi-Power and I'm a big fan of the Winchester 1895. I own one in 30-06. One of the new ones made back in 1996. I also own an 1897 riot-gun which I'm fond of. So I understand your fondess of Browning guns. Take care. Keep on working.
I've done what I could for Dirty Harry and Outlaw Josey Wales pages but I'm sure you'll improve them.Jcordell
My job here
Yeah, you're right about my "act" here. I've been a little sloppy lately and I will finish doing the rest of some of the pages like my first few. Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, and Black Lagoon are pages I really need to do since they were my first pages. I'll make a note to finish those pages and put links on them Excalibur01 03:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Colt Troopers.
Will do. I didn't know that. Thanks.
Colt Mustang
The Colt Mustang (a .380 pistol) is on the M1911 page. I don't think it belongs there. All those other models are in .45 acp (or they have other calibers as well as 45 ACP), but essentially they are .45 guns. I was going to pull the Colt mustang and create a page for the Mustang/Pony since they are both subcompact Colt guns in .380. What do you think? MPM20008
S&W MkII Hand Ejector
Hey John, I think this and the S&W M1917 has the same info they both the same N frames different calibers. Maybe they should be combined into a S&W Pre-War N Frame or the M1917 info transferred to the S&W MkII Hand Ejector. The same goes for the Colt M1917 as it is a Colt New Service in .45 ACP. Just thought you should know. - Phoenixent
Thanks
Thanks for identifying the green handgun, with the way actors treat guns sometimes, one can only imagine.--Alienqueen11 20:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
orphaned image
What is this from? It's not linked to any page. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:45-110Sharps.jpg MPM2008
Bergmann MP18
Hey John. In the Gun section we have a duplicate listing the Bergmann MP18 which is fine and the MP18. They both have the same info and photo figure that you can get rid of one. Thanks. Steve
CSI: Miami S&W Semi-Auto ID
I don't think the pistol shown on CSI: Miami is a S&W 5946. If you look at the screenshot versus the photo on the gun's page, you can see the gun in the screenshot has a decocker safety on the right side of the slide while the one in the photo does not. The Smith & Wesson 4046 does have a right-handed safety though. Orca1 9904 20:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
In the Line of Fire Llama
Hey John, Just to give you a heads up the Llama used In The Line of Fire is a Llama IIIA in .380 caliber. The weapons on the show were supplied by Ellis Mercantile. Also I might have a photo of the prop double for the composite pistol. The firing model was cut into three pieces after the movie was filmed. Thanks Steve
XM16E1
Hey John, I edited one of MPM's photo hope he doesn't mind to much but his photos are awesome. I worked on get those rifles ready for We Were Soldiers a couple of month prior to filming. It's amazing the research we did on all the weapons from that battle reconfigured our XM16E1 back to 1965. We even built the correct AK's for Vietnam since everyone else always used stamped receiverd AK. When the show was done everyone though we were wrong until you look and the combat photos and we were correct. Most critics completely missed that we only had two of the correct model Huey's. Steve
Idea for New Page
Hey John, I had an idea for a new page just on blank cartridges. Maybe we can ask MPM about getting some photos or I can get some myself when I go back to the armory after wrap. Thanks Steve
Taking no more gun pics
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. (for the record, YOU ALWAYS gave me credit and it was appreciated. Besides, I always ended up photographing the real deal as a result). Heck. I would give credit to the previously Google jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM
M4 vs. M4A1
The original M4 did NOT have a removable carry handle, it had a fixed one with 3-round burst. The original M4 was pretty much an M16A2's upper & lower recievers with a telescoping stock and 14.5" barrel with cuts for mounting the M203 ahead of the front sight assembly. It was the later M4A1 that featured the flat-top upper/full auto lower reciever assemblies. Orca1 9904 19:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
re:
The very earliest Type 56s, which were made 1956-1963, were built with milled receivers. The Poly Tech Legend is something completely different - it's a semi-auto copy of the original AK-47 designed for the civilian market in the 1980s. It looks almost identical to the original Russian AK-47 (visually, they're pretty much impossible to tell apart) and does not have the full-circle front sight of the Type 56. The receiver style has nothing to do with it. There were Type 56s which had milled receivers. -MT2008 22:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- No worries. Also, I addressed your debate with Orca on the M4/M4A1 on his talk page. -MT2008 23:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Young Guns
Great job with Young Guns! I especially liked the inclusion of the picture of the real Billy the Kid holding his Winchester compared to the photo of Estevez in the film. Nice added historical bit - Speakeasy804
- You were definitely right about the picture, the more I look at it the more I wonder if there wasn't something they could've done to make it look a little more accurate. Thanks for the compliment about the Bond films (they're favorites) and good luck with the Dirty Harry films and all - Clint will be proud once he sees the work you've done! - Speakeasy804
- Nice job on Young Guns including the photo of the real Billy the Kid. I don't know if you knew this fact about that photo is that the plate was reversed. The load gate on the Winchester is on the wrong side where as the Emilio Estevez photo is on the correct side.
RE: RoboCop 2
Thanks! I actually think it's a cool concept, but for Hob, it's the perfect weapon. It goes with his whole tactic of taking advantage of his age. "Officer reporting: It's just some kid carrying a blue lunchbox. No way he shot those dudes."
Sorry to hear you're sick, but have fun doing the "Dirty Harry" movies. Oh, and I had no idea that Eastwood's gun in the first one was a Model 25. That's news to me, but it does make perfect sense, for the reasons you explained. -MT2008 18:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
re: Nice Work
Thanks for the compliments! Feel free to make any adjustments with the Model B on The Untouchables page, I had neglected to think about that when I made the page, assuming Costner was using all M1911A1s and only that one henchman had a Star. Looking back, I can see I was wrong but I didn't get enough angles in enough scenes to discern when Costner had a Model B. I appreciate the help with that! Also, I'll peruse The Godfather sometime very soon and get a shot of the M1A1, just for completion's sake. On a different note, great job with the first Dirty Harry. Those pages have been in dire need of a fix-up and you're certainly doing justice to those great movies! - Speakeasy804
- Also, I recall maybe a few weeks ago you had asked about The World Is Not Enough - I just fixed it up tonight in case you're interested/have any input - Speakeasy804
- Thanks for the TWINE corrections, I was curious about some of the M1911A1s and I figured you'd know what was what. I do have Casino Royale so I can add that to my list, and I'll probably get Quantum of Solace pretty soon. I agree that Walther is probably upset that they've gone back to the PPK instead of the PPS - I guess that was the filmmakers' way of responding to audiences who wanted a more "classic" feel? I'll try and get QoS as soon as possible (I think the only Bond I have left to screencap otherwise is Never Say Never Again which isn't even technically part of the series). Great work with Magnum Force as well - all these pages are looking better and better! - Speakeasy804
- I never saw Flashpoint but the caps we have from it make it look pretty entertaining. Also, I saw Magnum Force is done - looks great! I should have a bunch more DVDs coming in this week so I'll try and get back on my game. - Speakeasy804
- Thanks for the TWINE corrections, I was curious about some of the M1911A1s and I figured you'd know what was what. I do have Casino Royale so I can add that to my list, and I'll probably get Quantum of Solace pretty soon. I agree that Walther is probably upset that they've gone back to the PPK instead of the PPS - I guess that was the filmmakers' way of responding to audiences who wanted a more "classic" feel? I'll try and get QoS as soon as possible (I think the only Bond I have left to screencap otherwise is Never Say Never Again which isn't even technically part of the series). Great work with Magnum Force as well - all these pages are looking better and better! - Speakeasy804
Enfield Enforcer Sniper Rifle
Gunmaster, Could you please mearge this page with the Short Action Lee Enfield page as the Enfield Enforcer is just a 7.62 NATO version of the WW2 Lee Enfield Sniper varient.Rockwolf66 04:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Lois and Clar: The New Adventures of Superman
Hi John, Nice to be back after working on location. I notice this page list as new the tile is misspelled and the format is not correct. Could you fix this as it does not look right being misspelled. Thanks - Steve
KAC SR-25
If you read the paragraph at the top of the Knight's Armament SR-25 page, you'll see that the M110 is the designation of the SR-25 given by the U.S. Army. Aside from the name and some other minor differences, they're virtually identical weapons. Orca1 9904 02:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello other-young-gun-nut
I finally have an account here now, I've been working on the site for about a year as an AU. Some of the pages I've helped create inclue CSI miami which I pretty much built up from the ground, and The Island, Constantine, and LA Confidential. Dude, we NEED to do HOUSE MD!--GlocksRevilACP 04:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
THANKS! for the note of support
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Actually I didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a bunch of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM
Beretta 9000S
You da man! I figured your EAGLE EYES would catch which beretta model Jane's gun was...! :) MPM2008
Dirty Harry Series Re-vamp
If you're the one who has been re-vamping the Diry Harry movies, thank you so much. It was really weak at first and you made it WAY better. I hope you re-vamp Sudden Impact and The Dead Pool as well because they are pretty weak.
Hostage Molotovs
While I understand that you worked on this page (and, I must admit, you did a damn good job on it), please remember that this is the Internet Movie FIREARMS Database. Molotovs aren't firearms. Sorry.
- That seems fair enough. Thank you for at least taking the time to talk to me, instead of just throwing a ban on me for a "first offense" so to speak (a few other administrators tend to overreact). I understand now. Thanks.
Colt 1903 new page
Hey John, There is a new Colt 1903 page that needs to be removed as it is a duplicate of the Colt Model 1903/1908 page we already have. Thanks - Steve
AMT Pistols page
Awesome work on the AMT page. It's been needed. Have you been talking to Rockwolf? Anyway, it's been sorely needed, but this was the best compromise possible since these guns were 'automags' in name only. Unfortunately there are VERY few of these types of guns in movie weapons rental inventory. No one ever wanted them. MPM2008
- Only the original AMC guns were written "Auto Mag". When Arcadia Machine & Tool Company 'ripped off' the Auto Mag mystique they avoided copyright infringement by writing their guns as 'AUTOMAG". Get it? only one word. "No your honor. We're not licensed to make Auto Mags. That name belongs to the remnants of the AMC company. Our gun is called the Automag! Completely different!" So the original guns are two words, the mutant long slides are just one word. :) MoviePropMaster2008 04:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- That would make sense, since changing the name to one word rather than two words was the way AMT tried to legally differentiate themselves from AMC. Unfortunately TONS of literature and sources on the net screw it up and name the AMT guns with Auto Mag versus Automag. And vice versa. It's your page. It's up to you. MoviePropMaster2008 04:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- Only the original AMC guns were written "Auto Mag". When Arcadia Machine & Tool Company 'ripped off' the Auto Mag mystique they avoided copyright infringement by writing their guns as 'AUTOMAG". Get it? only one word. "No your honor. We're not licensed to make Auto Mags. That name belongs to the remnants of the AMC company. Our gun is called the Automag! Completely different!" So the original guns are two words, the mutant long slides are just one word. :) MoviePropMaster2008 04:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Last crusade
Thanks. I screencapped ALL of the Indy films but I have to resize them and fix them for uploading. I sure hope no one starts doing it before I'm done. I hope some of the other users don't mind i replaced their shots, but some of the screenshots are pretty blurry or just not really clear. I don't know how it looks on your monitor, but I think my screenshots are clearer (take some of the other indy films for instance, except for the obvious "Production stills"). MoviePropMaster2008 07:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Redacted
For the record, I am offended that this title is on here and would sooner see it deleted. I am going to request to the other admins that it be deleted. It is an insult to all Veterans (myself included). MoviePropMaster2008 21:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC) And if Bowling for Columbine ever shows up here, it's gone.
- Edit, sorry I'm not picking on you. I just didn't want you to go through the trouble of screencapping that film. I figured all the younger members of IMFDB aren't as tuned into the feelings of American Veterans. MPM
Thanks for the reply
But I would argue its a lot easier to hold an absolutely 'neutral' attitude when one has no 'dog in the fight' per se. Having served some time in service I have such a disdain for that work that I must admit I get really angry when I see it. Perhaps in years to come, like the people who suffered on 9/11 may be able to stomach "watching a movie where Americans are the bad guys and the hijackers are the heroes", I may be able to stomach trash like DePalma's piece of crap. There are tons of more worthy films that have not been listed yet. We are so far away from being the all encompassing film database like IMDB that if we get closer to listing EVERYTHING, then we would be obligated to list even the most despicable listings. I would argue that it is controversial right now (perhaps not so much later on), but there is little upside to keeping it. Again thanks for your honest discourse. Always a pleasure. MPM2008
addendum
Yeah, I probably would feel better if we had a disclaimer that we don't support the film but list it for purely informational purposes so that IMFDB doesn't end up offending vets or families of vets who come here. I think that is the biggest concern for me. Anyway, thanks again for the note. Now that we're getting controversial, I might as well start listing the guns for "Triumph of the Will" ;) hahahah. thanks again. MPM2008
Colt Diamondback in Magnum Force
You're right about the model used by Tyne Daley in The Enforcer. It does look like a Python snubbie, but I still think Felton Perry is using a Colt Diamondback in Magnum Force. It looks like it has a smaller frame which would match the Diamondback. Jcordell
Great. thanks. Jcordell
Re: LaFrance Specialties M16K Question
Hey John, Tim LaFrance made the M16K with both types of upper receivers. I am trying to nail down how many variations of the M16K there are. I have what looks like four variation maybe five. But the one in your photos are M16K. Hope this helps. - Steve
- I just uploaded a photo of the M16K with Forward Assist that you can use. - Steve
I've used a .45 version of the M-16K in my personal fiction but I don't think that one has appeared on film yet. Rockwolf66 05:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
VIP
Thanks. I work hard on the Screenshots to make them look better. And as you've pointed out, I like bad cinema and tv. re: Model 36 pic. I don't want it to seem that I was in any way yelling at you when I reverted that image. That picture bothers me now. It was a project gun of a gunsmith and I checked the frame and it was definitely marked 36-2 (I take detailed notes when I take photographs of guns) and I'm no Smith & wesson expert, but the details LOOK like the more modern revolvers. Should I delete the image? The front sight and cylinder latch 'could' have been updated with newer parts. I hate having pics like this which 'could' be custom and not indicative of a standard model. Thoughts? MPM2008
VIP gun help
I have some pics in the 'to be sorted' section of the VIP page. Two shots of a suppressed pistol and one hard to see shot of an LAPD detective's revolver. Since you're the eagle eye on the site, do you have any ideas? Thanks. MPM2008
Diamondback or Python
Hey, I know you just finished re-vamping The Enforcer, so I figure you'd be able to help. I'm not so sure that Insp. Moore is using a Colt Python. It's possible, but it looks more like the Diamondback that Insp. Perry used in the previous movie, Magnum Force. What do you think? Gunman69
Well for what it's worth I think that Tyne Daley is carrying a Colt Python "snubbie" in The Enforcer. It looks to be the right size since the Diamondback is built on the same frame as the Colt Detective Special while the Python was built on the old 41 frame - a bigger frame. Also the hammer's spur on the revolver carried by Tyne Daley looks like a Python hammer instead of the Diamondback. But I do believe that Felton Perry was carrying a Diamondback in Magnum Force. Jcordell
Outlaw Josey Wales
Nice work. One of my favorite movies and the original page bothered me. It's looking very good. Jcordell
What the hell happened with In The Line of Fire?
Your pictures and information show up on the history pages, but when you click on the main link, it shows the page as it was before you touched it. WTF? --Clutch 23:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Collateral
Hey John, Matt had asked me that same question so I talked to the other armorer on set Larry. Larry confirmed it was a two-tone Jericho 941 Blued slide and a hard chrome receiver. I was working with the SWAT guys for the night club scene and Larry handled the stunt guy which is who had that weapon. - Steve
- John, It looks like the first photo is the two-tone Jericho 941 and photos two and three are the two-tone EAA Witness as those are different stuntmen. I would try and get some paperwork as backup but those were Gibbons Ltd gun and they have been sold to ISS.- Steve
- Hey John, I have an ID for that other pistol on Collateral for you. I Talked to Larry who was the General Manager of Gibbons Ltd and the armorer on Collateral. He looked up the paperwork on the show and said they were the Sphinx AT 2000 made in Switzerland. I have found the photo and will add shortly. - Steve
- John, That's a lot of movies for the weekend can't wait to see them. I am working on the following
- Miracle at St. Anna filling out the page
- Bullets or Ballots
- Warbirds A bad SciFi Channel Movie.
- Lady Gangster
Screencaps are finished on those movies just working on the layouts.
Winchester 1892
John, Sorry about the upload of the 94. I deleted the 92 thinking it was the 94 I will have to see my friend to take the photo again. - Steve
Category:Flare Pistol
Hey John, Could you please delete this category I made this one by mistake. Thanks - Steve
- Thanks for the assist. - Steve
Enemy at the Gates
I appreciate the weapons I missed. That's the eagle eyes I expect. BUT .... I'm not at all happy with MORE shots of the guns I already have. You and I have a fundamental difference of opinion regarding the number of screenshots for a movie page. You like to have WAY more than I like to have per weapon and though it really irritates me, I don't do anything to your pages. I do get annoyed when you add gun pics to the sections where I already have pics. I certainly cannot trim down the screenshots on pages that you make, though on pages like LMS I sure would like to delete about HALF of the screenshots, Why should I have to accept something which I fundamentally disagree with ... on my own pages? MPM
Seecamp
Are you answering the question I asked MT2008? re: the Seecamp 32 in Die Hard with a Vengeance? or are you ID'ing the pistol that Pamerla Andersen has in the bathtub in V.I.P.? Also I have some guns I can't ID on the Bionic Woman page, so I'd ask the EAGLE EYE if you have the time MPM2008
RE:
Well, I see you're already doing it anyway. :) But yeah, it's cool if you want to upload more. Just don't go too crazy. Also, you should go ahead and separate the AK variants. When I did this page originally, IMFDB wasn't in the habit of distinguishing the Norinco Type 56s from the AK-47 or AKM, so go ahead and separate the first section into the different variants. Also, it seems a lot of the Type 56-1s in the movie have the AKM-style receiver cover and grip. -MT2008 19:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Also, you can replace all my old ones if you wish. They're somewhat lower-res than yours. Also, did you see the nickel-plated AK on the wall of Yuri's weapons container? The one with the forward grip? That's this gun: http://weaponspecialists.com/view-prop.php?id=160&name=AK47-Stainless It was originally made for the movie Belly. -MT2008 20:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds good. It looks WAY better, plus it has lots of guns that I missed. Also, I think there may be an AR-7 variant in Yuri's gun container (it's visible in the same screencap as the Belly AK). I have a few more comments on the page, but I'll wait until you're done before I make them to avoid edit conflicts. -MT2008 03:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Bourne Identity (1988)
Hey, thanks for the quick help with some of the guns in the original Bourne Identity. Before I change the Makarov entry, you said it was actually a CZ-82. Is each gun used a CZ-82 or just ones in certain scenes? Speakeasy804 03:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! I don't think we have an entry yet on those, do you know any other movies they were in? Speakeasy804 03:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting, learn something new everyday. I'll link it to the CZ-83 page with an explanation on the picture that's a commercial version of the military pistol. And of course, thanks for the help! Speakeasy804 03:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873
Hey John, I see that you added the blued Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 back to the Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 page. Just to let you know the the revolver was never issued blued it was issued in a bare metal finish only. That was the reason I uploaded the correct image over MPM's. Just letting you know. - Steve
- I agree with keeping the original finish, but here's a thought ..., if some armorer somewhere, at sometime decided to BLUE his gun and it appeared in any film (I'm not saying it has) but if it did, we would be benefited from having a blued version, even though it would technically be some gunsmith's aftermarket conversion. Just at thought. But the revolver WAS issued only "in the white" historically... :) MPM2008
Did you take this picture?
I was going to replace it with a licensed shot I shot myself of the same pistol but I wouldn't if you were the original photographer of this shot. Thanks. MPM2008 http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/b3/S%26W25.jpg
Help
How do i take picures and add them to the website like the pink panther 1 which i seen alot of guns. User:Drjuki
P.S R U AND ADMIN OR A SYSOP? User:Drjuki
Srry i'm asking alot of questions i'm kinda new here, anyway do you know of the game endless war? if you do would it be considered a flash animation? and also who created this site? thanks. User:drjuki
Finally replaced some of the old images
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) MoviePropMaster2008 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Redirecting
How do you properly do Redirects without losing the history of the page it was before? Because everytime I do it, I mess up somehow. I tried redirecting to The Hills Have Eyes to Hills Have Eyes (2006), The, but got a red link, so I a filled in the blank page, and the somehow, the original name to the the pages still remains in the recent changes list. Thanks for any help.--Alienqueen11 22:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)