Some of the unidentified SMGs are M3 Grease Guns. --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:39, 19 March 2014 (EDT) Thx!--Pandolfini (talk) 14:02, 19 March 2014 (EDT)
It seems to me that only the last screenshot in Thompson section shows a real Thompson while the SMGs on two first screenshots are the same unidentified guns. Note how the magazines are attached. As for these unidentified SMGs, I guess that they are Spanish Star Z62 or Star Z70, visually modified to resemble Thompsons. Similar SMGs can be seen in some other Mexican-filmed movies. Greg-Z (talk) 14:24, 19 March 2014 (EDT)
Are the barrel shrouds removable? They don't appear to be separate components. --Funkychinaman (talk) 17:28, 19 March 2014 (EDT)
Sorry, I cannot say. It's a guess that may be wrong. If there are other ideas, I would be glad to discuss. Greg-Z (talk) 22:55, 19 March 2014 (EDT)
Some of the non talk fest older German films have some very interesting weapons. I can't wait until someone does a piece on Kiss Kiss Kill Kill/Kommissar X - Jagd auf Unbekannt and tries to describe these babies...I mean the weapons of course!Foofbun (talk) 05:48, 21 March 2014 (EDT) Super! Thanx! I had to figure it out myself. It would have been to find out, what weapons was used the Mexican police in 70s.:).--Pandolfini (talk) 06:48, 23 March 2014 (EDT)
I'm thinking that at least some of them are actually Spitfire Carbines:Error creating thumbnail: File missingSpitfire Carbine - .45 ACPIf you compare it to the beneath picture you can make out the same diagonal magazine catch:Error creating thumbnail: File missing If not this exact model, there were several companies that made very similar mock-Tommy Guns. Also, I think the current unidentified square receivered SMGs look a bit like tommy guns, but based on teh rear sight and the fact that they look slightly off to be genuine Thompsons, I would guess that they may be dressed up Volunteer Enterprises Commando IIIs or something similar:Error creating thumbnail: File missingError creating thumbnail: File missingVolunteer Enterprises Commando III - .45 ACP I am less sure about this one though, it is mainly the rear sight and square receiver that makes me think this.--commando552 (talk) 10:18, 22 March 2014 (EDT)
If you mean the one on the right, I think it is an M1921 Thompson with the forward grip removed, whilst the one on the left is an M3 with a barrel shorud. --commando552 (talk) 19:53, 22 March 2014 (EDT) I thought the one on the right, of course. Thank you!--Pandolfini (talk) 02:52, 23 March 2014 (EDT)
I have been following this discussion with great interest, the Spitfire Carbine and Volunteer Enterprises Commando III were totally new to me! Would it be an idea to put some kind of link or notice on the Thompson Submachine Gun page so that these two Thompson 'look-a-likes' will be correctly identified on future occasions? PeeWee055 (talk) 04:51, 24 March 2014 (EDT)
Pistol
Is that an external extractor? I'm not really sure. --Funkychinaman (talk) 17:17, 19 March 2014 (EDT)
Agree. It must be a Star pistol. Greg-Z (talk) 22:55, 19 March 2014 (EDT)
The 3rd picture for the unidentified submachine gun looks a whole lot like a rare Ingram Model 6.
- Scattergun (User:talk:Scattergun|talk) 21:18, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
No, the lower receiver is wrong for the Ingram, along with a few other differences. I think this image is actually just the same gun that is currently listed as the Star Z62. I am not 100% convinced that these are actually Z62s as there are some differences, but it is hard to tell with the current caps. --commando552 (talk) 09:40, 22 March 2014 (EDT)
Shotgun
Can anyone guess what Sybil holds in his hand?--Pandolfini (talk) 03:44, 23 March 2014 (EDT)
