I only have Season 2 although some of the discs don't work, so I will do most of season 2. When I get to the episodes I can't cap because the discs are screwed up, I'll let you know and you can pick up where I left off. Sound good? -Gunman69 18:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok, so I capped "Florence Italy" (which was only 1 picture lol) and that's as far as I can go because the disc is all messed up and it won't play. So when you are done with Season 1, pick up at "French Twist" and finish Season 2. I hope I made it easier for you by capping most of Season 2 (of course I'll still help you with descriptions and such; I want to see this page through to the end). Peace. -Gunman69 21:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
That's funny you say that because I've been thinking the same thing. That is a good idea. I know a lot of the TV pages on this site that have a lot of guns (for instance, The Unit) do that, so I think we should do it. In fact, you keep screencapping and I'll do it for you. -Gunman69 21:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
There were two pics I was wondering if you could get, both from "Sons and Lovers". The first is during the hostage situation, Switek is standing next to an SRT member with a Mossberg 500. I know we have a lot of those pics, but this one is black, not wooden, so it'd be good to put up. The second is the pic of Crockett firing the MAC-10 at Calderone's men. I know we have a lot of those too, so 1 pic is enough. Thanks! -Gunman69 18:12, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Awesome! First two seasons are done. -Gunman69 19:02, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey, could you get like 1 or 2 shots of Crockett's new S&W? Just so I could put some up for now until better ones come along. Thanks! -Gunman69 22:01, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
1 should be enough. Yeah, they changed it after Season 2 for two reasons: 1) The company that made Bren Tens, Dornaus & Dixon, went bankrupt and 2) Smith & Wesson just unveiled their 2nd gen pistols and the producers wanted to keep up with Crockett having a State of the Art pistol. They did this again after Season 4 when S&W unveiled their 3rd gen pistols, so Crockett's gun changed from a 645 to a 4506. -Gunman69 22:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
For the State of the Art reason, and the fact that Michael Mann thought that the Bren Ten is better contrast at night (which is why Crockett's gun is always chrome or stainless) they got rid of the SIG. I put the pink one up because I figured that it was the title screen from when the show was in its heyday. Whenever I watch the show and it has the light purple screen, it indicates to me that the episode isn't going to be very good (Season 3 is when the show started going downhill). But it's not a big deal to me, so we'll keep it. -Gunman69 22:29, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I take that back. I haven't seen much of Season 3. I've just heard from people. Some say it was good, some say it was bad. Actually, I wanted to tell you: Since I haven't seen Season 3, could you just write the episode names on the pics? I could write the descriptions just by looking at the picture, but I need the episode names. And I think I remember Seasons 4 and 5 well enough to help you with descriptions, so it should be fine. And since you haven't seen 4 and 5, you're in for quite a disappointment lol. Those seasons were terrible, especially 4 (although there were a few good episodes). -Gunman69 22:55, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey, do you want me to put up the picture of Switek's Hi-Power? -Gunman69 01:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I have kind of a personal emergency that I need to tend to. I'll be out of town for about a week. Can you finish the descriptions on Miami Vice for me? I really appreciate it. I'll try to get on here as much as I can, but I don't know how often that will be. -Gunman69 05:30, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I know. I feel the same way. But it's a real pain to have to wait for it to load, so let's just see how people like it. -Gunman69 04:45, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I think maybe you should go back over Season 3 and get some more screencaps of the guns that we have little or no pictures of. I know you're not wild about the idea, but now that Miami Vice has been divided, Season 3 looks pretty bare right now, so it would really help. Thanks! -Gunman69 07:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Isn't this an older-model Smith & Wesson 6906? It clearly has the ambidextrous safety, whereas all of the 669s I've seen only had the safety on the left side of the slide. -MT2008
Oh, wait, ignore what I said...it turns out that the later-model 669s did in fact come with the ambidextrous safety. Plus, the 6906 had not yet been introduced at the time that the episode aired. -MT2008 17:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
BB gun TEC 9
That fake gun appears all the time, so I think I should photograph mine and put up a page for it or add it to the "replica/Copy" section of the TEC-9 page. They're hard to find nowadays, as are LOTS of the old Airsoft, pump action BB guns from the 1970s/1980s/1990s. Remember if you run across any of these toy guns, they're worth a lot of money now. MoviePropMaster2008 05:30, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Planet Terror
I figure it'd be a better idea to do the whole Grindhouse set (including the commercials in between movies) on one page instead of just doing Planet Terror alone. - Gunmaster45
The M16 looks like it has an A2 receiver but A1 sights, which would make it a Colt Model 715 (basically the Colt Canada C7, but available for civilians). Then again, it could be an A2 but it's hard to tell. See if the movie offers any better shots. - Gunmaster45
Miami Vice Season 2
Yeah I did. I'll put those in soon. You can go ahead and put yours in as well. -Gunman69 00:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I have two requests: First, I would like a shot of Zito's S&W 659 from the beginning of "Bushido" (my DVDs finally gave up on me :( Second, I would like a picture of an SRT member's Winchester Model 70 from "Sons and Lovers". This will help makes Season 2 look more complete. Thanks! -Gunman69 06:10, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
PNG to JPEG
Yes that helps alot. thanks. Now I have to add screencaps to the pages that I actually created. --Jcordell 22:19, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Try not to overdo it with screencaps
Especially on pages where other members or mods have done 99% of the work (they might get irked). Sure I've replaced or added to pages, but those were sparse entries or I was replacing crappy screenshots. I was just concerned that you were adding tons of new pics to the T3 page. My apologies if I edited any changes you made, I was doing another Mod maintenance sweep. MoviePropMaster2008 05:56, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay in response
IMFDB has a policy that screenshots can be replaced by better shots, or full frame (4:3) shots can be replaced by the more preferable 16:9 wide screen shots (by anyone) Someone can replace anyone's screenshots if the replacing screenshots are clearly superior in quality. Blurry or just bad screencaps can be replaced at any time and the author can't really complain since the purpose of IMFDB is to present the best page possible, not worry about stepping on anyone's ego. But you seemed to have missed the point with screenshots with those particular shots. The point is not to just show the actor with the guns but also have the shot be clear and most importantly, have a clear shot of the gun. Those shots of Nick Stahl and Claire Danes firing were simply bad shots. All you could see was muzzle flash. You couldn't see the gun clearly and the actor's faces weren't clear. Heck, anyone with bluray shots are free to replace any shots on the site, but the mods are starting to police more the quality of the screenshots. There have been fights in the past where people are pissed that their screenshots were replaced, when the replacing screenshots were clearly superior. we have a simple rule that the replacing or additional material must be clearly SUPERIOR in quality or have new information. Now other Mods have other viewpoints. Some of them like a lot of screenshots, and we've fought over that. I personally dont' think we need 20 shots of a gun for each section. And the fact that Bunni (our head sysop) had to replace the servers with new ones primarily because of memory overload sent the message that we should not overburden the pages with extra images. I do apologize for the abruptness of the action. There were a lot of mess to clean up with other user and I swept through that page quickly drastically. But also people need to start either capturing at a higher quality level or learn to use image editing software. Cleaning up screencaps is an ongoing maintenance that users will have to get used to. And we're overloaded right now, since there are tons of new members who are uploading tons and tons of new stuff every day.
Here for example is a reload: One replaced the OTHER on the movie page.
Anyway, my apologies for the abrupt change. We go on deletion sweeps from time to time. MoviePropMaster2008 03:56, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm asking all members to stop with the sarcastic comments in the screencap descriptions
Too many members feel it's funny to be extremely sarcastic about actor's shooting stance, their blinking, their pistol grips. Only if it's so over the top as for the average person to notice, then don't keep on harping on it. Most actors are given only a bare amount of time to train, if at all. Many times the editor picks the worst take for pistol grip, but best take for other reasons like acting. Also much of the blame falls on the director. Some directors don't want to be bothered trying to train the actors and don't allow us armorers to even give them more training than the minimum safety training. People in the industry check out this website, and some think we're a bunch of obnoxious kids. I am not happy when people in 'the biz' look at the site and scoff at the snarky remarks. Some of them are the actual actors being insulted. We can always put in criticism, but IMFDB members going forward going to criticize a film, should try to do so in a scholarly manner or not at all. Thanks for your cooperation MoviePropMaster2008 05:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Planet Terror
Great work on the Planet Terror page! Hahaha. You were the first to link my Shot of a Stainless Colt Python. I am waiting for some replacement grips, but I also have the same Ruger Revolver in the section as well. I'll get a shot of it soon. Actually I've been waiting for some pearl grips for it so I can photograph it for the Halloween (2007) page. MoviePropMaster2008 06:46, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
RE: Predator 2
Yeah. I'm going to start working on Predator 2 when i get done with We Were Soldiers. It would be great if you could help me with the Predator 2 page. If you do help me, help me after i get done with We Were Soldiers, okey?--Oliveira 11:23, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
A few shots of the DSHK, some screencaps and the M1911A1s.--Oliveira 14:37, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
And an Mosin Nagant.--Oliveira 14:38, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Re:
Do you just don't like the .308 round or is it those rifles themselves? I have a Mini-14 in .223 and an LIA1 in 7.62. (Also I know you were talking about the M14 not Mini-14, I listed it because of the .223 caliber comparison) I like them both, the calibers and the rifles. But when it comes to the caliber debate for the military use. It think it depends a lot on the situation they're in. Close quarters, urban .223 / 5.56 all the way. Big open areas and even the jungles where the enemy could be a good distance away .308 / 7.62.
Both. I respect the .308's importance and various uses, but not in a general-issue infantry/CQB weapon. I don't think it's a mistake that we (and the rest of the world) went to .223/5.56x45mm. -MT2008 03:33, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Payback revision
I just wanted to commend you for removing a lot of the snarky comments that have plagued the Payback article for a long time now.
Oh, wow, I never even noticed that. He was also in two episodes of Nash Bridges as well as the Miami Vice (2006) movie. It says he is the only actor to appear in both the show and the movie. I just noticed that some of the images I posted on Season 2 are PNGs (!), so once I finish the Season 3 descriptions, I'll change them. -Gunman69 00:43, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Your Guns
I never saw the pics of your guns until now. That's quite a nice collection you have. Nowadays, I mostly just see Glocks or SIGs or HKs in someone's "arsenal", but you've got a nice variety. All those guns I listed above are nice, but most people who just like to "say" they like guns buy them. They don't bother to buy some really classic guns like you have. I especially like the nickel S&W 586. -Gunman69 19:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
While that's good you're getting your Grandma a bigger gun, you should've taken a picture of the Colt Challenger for the Miami Vice - Season 1 page. That was the gun that DeSoto uses when he kills Leon in the pilot episode (right now we have a Colt Woodsman pictured)! Not a big deal though. I look forward to seeing your new pics. -Gunman69 22:42, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
You won't believe this
Score! I've been holding off uploading these because I'm still waiting on an image for the Heartbreak Ridge' page (their weapons are set up slightly differently) so I hope people will wait to update that page until I can get a good image for that page.
Say Hello to My Little Friend!!!
Scarface fans will crap in their pants. Got the ACTUAL screen used LITTLE FRIEND. Now I used black gaffers tape and taped two 30 round magazines together as best I could (to try to match the screenshots). Do you think that was smart? or should I just present it with a plain magazine? Anyway, I did that because I wanted people to see it as it was most seen in the movie (Wow that launcher is beat up, it's been 25 years after all since the movie was filmed!!!!) It is also the old launchers that were used before the Cobray 37mm launchers became prevalent.
This IS the gun used by 'The Skull' Gino Silva to blast Tony Montana in the movie. I also included a closeup shot of the top of the gun to show the markings.
Recognize this lovely? I've been waiting to get pics for the Predator page for a while. So many weapons have either been sold off or taken apart and reconfigured for other movies.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingMotion Picture Faux M203 launcher attached to M16/SP1 Rilfe - 5.56mm/39mm. Configured as it appeared in the movie.
IMFDB is the only place in the WORLD, now that has these images. How cool is that? :) I got some screen used muskets from Last of the Mohicans (from private collections), which is interesting since I usually don't get many pre 1848 weapons.
MoviePropMaster2008 03:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Moving other variant pics onto weapons discussion page
That sounds like a good idea. MoviePropMaster2008 20:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Heat pics
I brightened up the image a little and saved it in a larger dimension. I'm using VLCsnap to cap. I find that saving it as a PNG first and then converting to a JPG tends to make the image a little sharper. --Ben41 03:04, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
When you're using VLC, you can go into the Effects & Filters of the "Tools" section, then go into the Video effects tab. You can adjust the settings like the gamma and saturation and even the sharpness to make the pictures a little brighter and sharper. You don't want to go too bright or too sharp, though. --Ben41 05:36, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Reservoir Dogs
Hey, I've spoken to Yournamehere about the screenshots on Reservoir Dogs. I've told him that I don't want this to turn into a "Yournamehere vs Gunman69" deal. That's the kind of crap that wikipedia does and we're better than them lol :). The reasons I redid that page was because 1) there were some shots he missed and 2) his pngs were taking WAY to long to upload on my computer. I told him if he can make them jpegs and add in the extra shots I've provided, then I'll let him keep his screenshots. That being said, I think YOUR screenshots are the best, so if by any chance you want to revamp it, that'd be great :). I won't push it because I don't know how busy you are at the moment. -Gunman69 22:59, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much. I was getting very annoyed by this whole issue, so I REALLY appreciate your support. :) -Gunman69 06:08, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
RE:
I dunno, ever since MoviePropMaster requested that we stop critiquing actors' stances and stuff like that, I've been seeing lots of anonymous users inserting those types of comments into pages, and I've been removing them. It really seems to me that a lot of them are added later by other people. I do realize that the page authors sometimes add them, but I'm seeing a lot that were added later. Especially to my own pages. -MT2008 15:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Are you finished?
So, are you and Gunman finished with Miami Vice?--Oliveira 20:17, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Finishing Predator 2, find a way to screencap video games, do some work on existing pages and screencap some movies. I'm pretty much done with We Were Soldiers except for an Mosin-Nagant. I asked for help in Karnes' talk page but it's going to take a while untill he responds.--Oliveira 20:57, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Re:
Funny you'd ask...I had the exact same thought, and I e-mailed my contact to ask him the same thing! I suspect it might very well be the same gun in Crank: High Voltage, because he told me that ISS has three of those gold-plated Eagle Mark Is. If ISS supplied the weapons for that movie, it's gotta be one of the same guns. -MT2008 02:10, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I think you're right, but I will check. When I talked to him today, he also mentioned that he thinks the Goldmember Eagles might have been used in Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle, but only in a few scenes. Another armory did most of the gun work on that show, and from what I can tell, Demi Moore mostly uses .50 AE Mark XIXs (factory gold finish). We're not really sure. -MT2008 02:26, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
My source says that Crank: High Voltage was indeed done mostly with ISS's weapons, so it looks like one of the Goldmember Desert Eagles was probably used by Clifton Collins in that film. -MT2008 15:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Got some new ones I'm about to upload right now... -MT2008 16:09, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
The L1A1
She's beautiful...did you just get it recently? -MT2008 21:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, the wood furniture is the more "classic" look anyway (for L1A1s, I think it makes more sense). As for your other question, I'll answer by PM in the forum. -MT2008 23:20, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
It's appears to be a mid-size frame so it's a S&W K frame not a J frame which is smaller and the Model 36 is a J frame. It appears to be stainless steel and has a snubby barrel. The Model 67 (stainless version of the Model 15) was never made as a snubbie just the Model 15. Also there appears to be a full lug protecting the ejector rod so I believe it's a S&W Model 66 (.357 magnum) snubbie. I don't think it's a 686 because I believe Smith & Wesson didn't introduce the snubbie 686 until 98 though I'll have to check to make sure. Hope this helps. --Jcordell 02:36, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Oh yeah I missed that photo. That looks to be a Model 15 snubbie. Whoops. Good catch. --Jcordell 07:28, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Magnum
You're right about the 357s. I haven't had time to change the page yet, but the .357 Mk XIXs I had seen previously were conversion kits and those did not have fluted barrels. I've just recently seen a factory .357 with a fluted barrel, so that's a correction I have to make. Also with the delete files, do me a favor and don't just list the file name but cut and paste the actual URL for the page so I can just link to it. Searching for just a file name takes more time. Thanks MoviePropMaster2008 02:09, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
RE Hitcher Featured Article
I tried to have a picture of both Ryder and Halsey for the featured article, and I originally had it set up like you proposed. I did not have it like that for a couple of reasons.
1> I wanted to have an image of the SPAS-12 for the featured article to show variety, and also because it is the most prominent firearm in the film. There is a screencap of John Halsey with the SPAS-12, but it just didn't look right for the featured article and it would be sort of a spoiler.
2> Two revolvers for the featured article just didn't evoke much interest to reel viewers in. An Exotic Firearm like the SPAS-12 would generate interest.
3> There are a few featured articles featuring the same character for both caps and they were done by mods (I think).
4> The angle of those two caps are too similar.
Thanks for your interest in the article though :) --AdAstra2009 05:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
I guess you could put it like that if you want. It's just that it is sort of obvious what is going on in that screencap with the sky behind him, his facial expression -what he is going to do. We all know that Ryder will die but having the cap is like fast forwarding to the end. Though I don't mind that setup too much, so if you want to have it like that I'm okay with it. --AdAstra2009 04:00, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
I didnt know he had left, thanks for the help. That is a sweet looking Browning Hi-Power by the way. I want to purchase one so bad but they are illegal in my state. --Mauser 15:53, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
VLC setting
Have you adjusted the gamma? That seems to help with the brightness. I also raise the sharpness a bit (too much and there's too much grain). Also, make sure you set the "Deinterlace" to "blend". --Ben41 02:31, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
re: SIG
Hey, Brian,
$600 for a pre-96 SIG (any model) seems a little on the expensive side, but it might just be because it's two-tone. Nonetheless, if the FFL you're buying from is a smaller mom-and-pop type business, you ought to ask them if they can maybe bump down the price by the $50 price difference between the SIG and the 4505. I've seen people selling/buying nickel- and two-tone older-model SIGs for $500, sometimes even cheaper.
Any stamped-slide SIG made in Germany is superior to the newer milled-slide guns made in America, IMO. The slide weight is the main reason why (the older guns don't have the tendency to "flip over" in your hand the way that the newer guns do). The newer-model guns are still good weapons, but there is a noticable build quality difference. Some other things I'd recommend:
(1.) Check the date code on the tip of the slide below the muzzle. There's a TFL topic about it here: http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211928 SIGs are durable and last a long time, but preferably, you want to be sure the gun is fairly new (made at least after 1990). BTW, if the gun says, "Made in West Germany" instead of just "Made in Germany", then you automatically know it was made in 1989 or earlier (since there hasn't been a West Germany since 1989).
(2.) When you inspect the gun again, drop the magazine, cock back the hammer, and then see how much the slide wobbles along the frame rails. If it feels very wobbly, that means it's pretty well used. Again, not necessarily a problem, but it might be indicative that the gun has other mechanical issues internally.
(3.) Does the gun you're looking at have the old-style checker-pattern grips, or the newer pebbled grips with the SIG logo on them? If it has the old-style grips, you should bring a screwdriver with you and pop off the grips to have a look at the trigger bar spring (if they'll let you). Any SIG P220 or P226 with the older-style grips is going to have a half-moon shaped trigger bar spring, and those tend to break after extended usage. It's easy to replace, but if it looks pretty worn, it might be another excuse for you to ask for reduced price! Also, you should probably think about buying the updated trigger bar spring and replacing the grips with a set of Hogues (provided it doesn't make the gun's grip circumference too large for you to reach the mag release, that is), or even target grips.
Sorry for the long-winded reply. Hope all of this helps you. SIGs are very good guns, and I don't think you can go wrong with them, provided you're like me and have fingers long enough to operate all of the controls. Also, trading a Desert Eagle for a SIG is a step up in classiness, anyway. :-) -MT2008 19:57, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Way of the Gun
Thanks for the heads up. There are some good additions to the page. There are SOME which I had already capped, but opted to not include because they were either (a) weak images that did not show the gun well or (b) had some sort of spoiler, no matter how slight. :) I will go over the page and thanks for the heads up. MoviePropMaster2008 18:04, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
I have the remastered DVD of Dirty Harry and reuploaded the pics of the gun and it does appear that to have ".44 Magnum" on the barrel. --Ben41 07:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Model 29
I liked the edited paragraph. But I missed some of the info in the longer one. The 'sending guys flying' is worthy of removing, due to unnecessary length, but the "over-penetration" reasons should be mentioned, albeit a bit shorter version. I think a mix of the two is best, since this is such a high profile film and many public viewers check out OUR page for the real scoop on the film. Heck, I scored photos of three screen used guns for this film (which is more than any other movie weapons trivia site on the net), but the hero revolvers have 'disappeared'. I told others that I would try to ask Milius (when i got the chance) and when he had the inclination to tell me what he has from the film. But I'm no expert on the movie and only know what other veteran armorers tell me. What I will do is keep a note of all the questions raised by the discussions on this page and have them handy when I can corner some of these guys and try to get the straight scoop. Things are getting busier as the rains are stopping here in California, so my time on IMFDB is brief as I check between shows or in the middle of the night before I go to sleep. I'm counting on the rest of you to keep the crazy (and wrong) edits by noobs at bay. hahahahaha. MoviePropMaster2008 21:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
M2s
Well (in real life) in the time frame of the film, they can easily be M2s since M2s were spread all over SE Asia as were the M1s for the ARVN, but you are right, the armorers were foreign so we don't know what they had access to. I would say that unless we see the selector nub or see them fire full auto, then we should classify them as M1s with 30 round magazines. To actually declare them M2s with no proof is worse than playing it safe and declaring them M1s. :) Hope this helps. MoviePropMaster2008 23:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry
Thought that did not sound like you, but I tried to check the history of the page edits and it seemed like you but I was wrong. I did not think that sounded like something you would type, so I thought you were losing your mind ;) LOL. MoviePropMaster2008 03:28, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
RE:
Thank you, sir. But man, there's still sooo much work to be done. I don't even wanna start with those video games yet. -MT2008 20:56, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw the markings. Since the Mark XIX was made here from '96 to '00, and since I imagine that a lot of the armories bought their Mark XIXs (and converted them to blank-fire) during that time, it might even be safe to say that most Mark XIXs in movies are likely to be American-made guns (except for the ones in Desperado, which came out in 1995).
And you're right about video games. There weren't many games featuring the Eagle prior to Counter-Strike. And since game texture artists tend to get the pictures they use from online, I'm guessing they would have all just gone to Magnum Research's web site and jacked whatever images were there to use as textures. Which means, their Eagles are likely to be Mark XIXs. Maybe I should just cut and paste all the games into the Mark XIX section, at least for now. -MT2008 21:17, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh, yeah, whoops, I forgot about the .440 Carbon versions. Does that variant have the fluted barrel, too, or is it indistinguishable from the .50 AE version? Not that it matters - I think I remember a forum topic where Steve Karnes mentioned that the armorers haven't (yet) converted any .440 Carbon Desert Eagles to blank-fire, so any Mark XIXs without fluted barrels would have to be .50 AEs. -MT2008 21:33, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Wow, that just makes things a whole lot more confusing. I forgot about The Boondock Saints. But that's probably the exception; in general, a non-fluted Mar XIX is almost certainly going to be .50 AE because that seems to be what American armorers prefer. -MT2008 22:13, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, you should go shoot yours. Or at least play with it. In spite of how so many people on IMFDB like to make fun of the Eagle, I admit I sometimes find myself wishing I owned one (a nickel Mark I or Mark VII, specifically). Now happens to be one of those times.
Does it cycle better than the .357 and .44 because you can get a heavier powder charge?
I'm not sure, though that sounds like a pretty likely explanation to me. MPM has said that American armorers pretty much only use .357 and .50 AE Desert Eagles (.357 Mark Is and Mark VIIs before 1999, .50 AE Mark XIXs after that), while the Canadian and European armorers are more likely to use .44 Magnum Eagles. I'm also guessing that a lot of directors wanted to have .50 AE Mark XIXs in their movies after seeing The Matrix.
I've also been told (by a couple of armorers) that they spent years trying to make Desert Eagles function reliably with blanks, and that it was a nuisance to them that so many directors kept wanting to have Eagles in their movies. I wonder if that, too, is because the .50 AE version wasn't introduced yet? -MT2008 22:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
RE: Blanks
Oh, yes, I've recounted on the forum my experience shooting the .50 AE Mark XIX for the first time. It belonged to the significant other of one of my co-workers. I remember being terrified of it because it was so damn loud. Although the recoil wasn't quite what I expected (my expectations were raised because I'd read so many accounts on the Internet, some probably written by people who hadn't actually fired a Desert Eagle, about how the severity of the recoil). The good thing about the Eagle being so heavy is that it's more controllable than a revolver. I didn't rake the slide, though; it was handed to me loaded and chambered. I've handled other Desert Eagles at gun shows (including a gold one), but never tried to rake the slide, since FFLs get mad if you do that.
As for blanks, yeah, there are a lot of guns that they couldn't make function with blanks. I'm sure you've heard the stories about how Clint Eastwood kept getting pissed off at his Automag for jamming on him during the filming of Sudden Impact. I can only imagine how much trouble the Desert Eagle gave the older gunsmiths before Steve and the other younger dudes started figuring out how to make them more reliable. -MT2008 23:24, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
One other thing I forgot to ask: Do you want to put your name on the thumbnail caption for the Mark I that appears on the Desert Eagle page? It already says it on the image file itself, but do you want it to say the same thing on the caption? -MT2008 01:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
RE:
Done. BTW, nice job on From Dusk Till Dawn! It's good to have a complete page for that movie finally. -MT2008 23:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
The Killer
Hey, Brian, thrilled to see you're working more on The Killer! That's a page I've been meaning to do myself for years, but you're doing fine on it, so it's all good.
Anyway, I know a bit of behind-the-scenes info about the guns from this movie, because I used to read an airsoft/model gun forum that was also frequented by one of the armorers who worked on The Killer. Unfortunately, that forum is now gone, but my recollection is that he said the revolver used by Ah Jong in the parking garage is also a Taurus (he wasn't specific about which model, but I imagine it has to be another 689).
Some other things I remember from his forum post...
He mentioned that they used some 8mm blank-firing replica Browning HPs on the movie. The BDA9 looks real to me, so I don't think that's it, but he did say there were replica HPs used in the movie. I'm guessing some of the triads used them.
He also said that they brought an H&K P7 M13 to the set and tried to convince John Woo to have Chow use it in the movie, but Woo refused. So I have no idea if the P7 appears anywhere in any scenes (he didn't say), but they did bring the gun to set, so it may or may not have been used by one of the triads in the movie.
See the bandage on Chow's left hand when he fires the mock-up SVD? That's due to an injury he received while filming another movie (A Better Tomorrow III, I think) when he cut his hand on the front sight of an Uzi.
I don't remember him mentioning that they used any CZ-75s in the movie. He did mention they used Norinco Type 54 (TT33 copies).
Hope that helps out. -MT2008 02:04, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I got some stuff on there already (the parts about the SVD being a mocked-up Type 56, and the reason for there being only one Beretta in the movie). Just thought I'd give you a heads-up on the huge revolver, since you're working on the page now and I don't want my edits to conflict with yours. As for the Type 56, Norinco did offer the birdcage flash hider on many of its AKs, though it's not that commonly seen on the Type 56 (it was far more common on the Type 84). -MT2008 02:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
RE:
Hmmm, not sure why that page got protected to SysOps only. I unprotected it. Also, how do I add a page to General Information? I apologize, unfortunately, I've missed out on a lot of stuff lately (I'm pretty busy the next couple of weeks). -MT2008 00:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Supernatural
hahaha. When you quickly modified your comment to the Supernatural talk page, you deleted a comment with "You done did it". I didn't see the original comment, just the comment later before deleting (in the history) and I thought that was a throw down! And I was like "What did I do to piss off Predator20!?!?!?!" LOL! "You done did it .. boy!!!" (walks slowly preparing for delivering a can of whooop ass). hahahaha Anyway, look forward to you capping this page. MoviePropMaster2008 19:14, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Re:Terence Stamp
Sorry about that. I confused him as Terence Stamp since that I never watched Wanted. - Kenny99 03:34, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Screen Caps
Hey thanks for putting my screencaps up on the Mirrors page. Could you please tell me how to put them up for myself.
Regarding: "Please convert you PNG file images to JPG before uploading them. PNG's take up too much memory 300kb versus 75kb.--Predator20
15:53, 18 June 2010 (UTC)"
Fuck, sorry, didn't see your message until I added every screencap I had. I'll make sure the screens from Episode 2 and onwards are .JPGs.
Do you want me to change all the screens or is it OK? I'm going to need an image converter if I have to convert them, do you know a good one?.
Roger that, I'll change the linky thing. --VRazer2 16:56, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
RoboCop
I have the Blu ray, and I'll take care of it. Do you any idea what gun that the thug standing on the walkway is holding? It's a TEC-9 type of SMG. --Ben41 00:55, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
It's a TEC-9 Mini in full auto. Stembridge used to have a ton of those. It can't be the AB-10 because the film was released in 1987. MoviePropMaster2008 01:00, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
RE: SIG cont.
It looks pretty nice! I've always loved the "reverse" two-tone SIGs (like the one in 2 Fast 2 Furious). That being said, if it says "Made in West Germany", that means it was made before 1989. Are you OK buying such an old gun that you can't inspect up-close? I'm kinda paranoid about buying guns that I can't inspect first, but if you're OK with it, then go for it. It's definitely a good-looking piece, and I think no gun collection without a SIG is ever complete (though I have an obvious bias).
Also, CCR does a great job on finishes (my 226 had its slide re-finished by them). If they did any work on the gun, it's probably in good shape, but personally, I would rather try it before I buy it. -MT2008 13:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
The checkered style gives a better grip, but you can't use the newer trigger bar springs with them (only the old ones, which have a tendency to break after extended usage). My recommendation is that when you get the gun, ditch the "pebble" grips and put on a set of Hogues (provided your hand is big enough). That's what I've got on my 226 right now. -MT2008 00:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but I like the two-tone one better. I think you made the right choice. And yeah, don't get the finger groove Hogues, those are too big. The regular Hogues are also pretty thick, but they do improve the grip. In my opinion, they're superior to the factory grips. -MT2008 22:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
RE:
Blocked him. Thanks. -MT2008 23:26, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I would need to see either the receivers or the sight to be sure. If they're real guns, they're most likely to be Norinco Type 56s. But if they're replicas, probably Hudson model gun AK-47s. Also, hope you enjoy the SIG; post pics when you get it! -MT2008 01:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Looked at 'em closely. They have milled receivers, so my guess is that they're the Hudson AK-47 replicas. When there's multiple types of a certain weapon in a scene, you're usually looking at replicas of some sort. Like, if there's a cache of M16s, there's usually going to be some MGC replicas. Same with the AKs. -MT2008 02:48, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
They are NOT Hudsons. I have Hudsons. I will post a pic of a Hudson soon. Those are .22 LR clones (not the new ones, but the old ones from the 1980s). Not Armscorp but I think some other company, perhaps Armi-Jager. The handguards are indicative of the strange .22LR clones of the AK from decades ago. MoviePropMaster2008 01:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Corrected that problem. Also, hope you get the SIG soon. At least you live in a state that has sane handgun laws. NC's are just...well, retarded. Oh, and happy 4th! -MT2008 23:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Got 'em. In the future, though, can you also put the delete tag on them? I'm kinda busy this week (on the road a lot) and don't know how often I can be on the site. If you put the delete tag on, then at least another admin can get them if I'm not around.
Can't wait to see the SIG. Hope it serves you well. -MT2008 20:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Just put [[Category:Delete]] on the picture (hit "Edit" and type it in). You can still point me to it, but this way, if I'm not around, someone else might see it. This is the page listing all the stuff with the Delete tag: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Category:Delete -MT2008 21:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Featured Article
Sure, feel free to edit the photos. bunni 02:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Pinko
Well the guy is definitely British, or some kind of influence in his language. I know they are the only countries that calls us Americans "Yanky", but the way he writes is definite up there and only UK uses the worse arse Excalibur01 16:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for heads up. I'll check my other uploads. --Ben41 00:11, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Re: Hunter
I've actually been considering making it a featured article; should I do it by season or the show as a whole? I'd go by season but I don't know if that'd be wise since not many people have heard of it. Then again, it may be a nice way to introduce people to the show and show off some of the various firearms used. What would you recommend? - Speakeasy804 15:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
New anonymous member
I checked ALL of the other edits and everything else seems okay. it seems like he's learning the system and how to edit on IMFDB. That one you caught is a pretty big screwup, but so far none of the other edits are vandalism. I will try to keep an eye on him, but he must just be another noob who is unsure how to do the pages correctly. MoviePropMaster2008 02:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
RE:
Thanks for that info. I'm suddenly not sure whether I should do anything, though. As far as I'm concerned, if the people who wanted me to take down the original image want to get angry at this other guy, that's his problem. -MT2008 23:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Admin
Hey, Brian, I have a question: Do you want an Administrator position? I think you're actually overdue for the promotion, and we need good people like you on the Admin team. If you want, I can email Bunni to ask him to give you the new status. -MT2008 01:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Good idea! I also asked Ben41 if he wanted it. -MT2008 01:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the vote of confidence
Thanks for putting in the good word. Guess we're going to have to learn something new. Should be fun. --Jcordell 02:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
BTW - a belated Congratulations on your promotion to Mod
Now you will have to fight the trolls/idiots/fanboys even MORE! hahahahaha(evil laugh). Congratulations!!!! MPM
Delete section
I found a bunch of pages and screenshots not deleted by anyone here: [1]. Unfortunately, I rarely see admins go there. - Kenny99 15:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Stan's wacko watch
Hey man, remember me? Maybe not. Interesting how massive one's talk page gets when they become an Admin.. Congrats on that BTW. That said, I figure I'll let you know about this (if you don;t already), and I suppose you can pass it on to MT2008 and the others. Anyway, I think there's a problem with 76.121.27.16 - He's been warned several times before to stop uploading/posting redundant gun images on pages (I just remembered MT was one of the ones who's warned him), yet he's kept on doing it. He's done a handful just earlier today that I've reverted back. I hate tattling on another guy but I have have a feeling I'm not the only one he's annoyed with this crap. The guy does seem to add to the site and all, but I just don't like him continuing to do this stuff, it's kind of irritating. So, well, there ya go. Again, I just remembered MT told about this a few months back, but it seems he didn't care to listen, so, I don't know. StanTheMan 00:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Ah, good. Thanks, man. StanTheMan 03:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I found a vandal 75.31.96.25 - He just made one comment, but it's a rather tasteless one and should probably be hit on the head with the banhammer anyway. Another good anonymous guy edited it out already, but, thought I'd let you know. StanTheMan 16:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Another one 71.91.170.82 - he's removed content from pages, which I've reversed. I warned him on his talk page but you should probably keep an eye on him. Or just ban him, your choice I guess. StanTheMan 18:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Stevens 520/620 Shotgun
The Stevens 520/620 is a John Browning design. The 520 went on the market in 1904 and was discontinued in 1932. The 620 was a more streamlined version. The abrupt angle at the rear of the reciever on the Model 520 was eliminated with the 620.Other than that the 520/620 are mechanically identical. The 520/620 was manufactured in 12, 16 and 20 gauge. The 620 was discontinued in 1955. Both models were avilable in riot configuration and sport/field configuration. I saw you post on Nyles discussion page. Also I think a 520/620 page is a great idea. --Jcordell 02:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Stevens 520
As I understand it (and I'm a little fuzzy on the details myself as there's not all that much info available), the 520 was the original model with the stepped receiver, and the 520-30 was the later model with the flat receiver (pictured). Very cool shotguns, actually - they were designed by John Moses Browning and were actually the first side-ejecting hammerless guns on the market. They were made 1904-1932 and then another production run in the 40s for the US Army in trench gun configuration. - Nyles
Russian Spammer
Hahaha. Good job on the ban hammer! You seemed unsure whether or not that Spammer you blocked was really a spammer. I speak Russian and can read it only so so. But that entire blurb was a nonsensical paragraph about how to buy cars. It was definitely SPAM. Funny since our Russian user Kloga has argued that he has 'never seen any Cyrillic Spam on IMFDB' LOL! MoviePropMaster2008 15:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Front Page
I added Stargate SG-1 yesterday and was wondering: What articles qualify for the random featuring? Obviously games are out of the question. And they have to have a certain standard. But: Is a certain length (amount of firearms), or completion of details like cross linking (actor pages etc.) necessary, too? I did not find anything about this in the rules. --Milkovich 08:04, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Also: There seems to be something odd going on with the featured article frame. From time to time the place appears blank. --Milkovich 17:16, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Re: Blank feature article
If I remember correctly, it´s on the FeaturedArticle and the Main page. The thing is that the frame is empty. So I can not tell whether it is a specific movie or just a single line of coding that is messing it up.
btw.: Can only admins redirect pages or change the title of one? Driven To Kill should - according to IMDB - be Driven to Kill. No capital T. --Milkovich 17:52, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
