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==M1911 pistol series|Colt M1911==
== Colt M1911 ==
[[Colt 1911]]s are used by the "Wild Bunch", consisting of Pike Bishop ([[William Holden]]), Dutch Engstrom ([[Ernest Borgnine]]), Lyle Gorch ([[Warren Oates]]), and Tector Gorch ([[Ben Johnson]]).  In actuality though they were not used in the film because they couldn't be made to function with blanks so stand-in [[Star Model B]]s were used when they pistols had to be fired.
[[Image:Wildbunch1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Pike with a Star Model B (note the external extractor) standing in for a 1911.]]
[[Image:StarPistolB.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Star Model B Pistol in 9mm]]


Used by William Holden's character as well as others in the bunch.  In actuality though they were not used in the film because they couldn't be made to function with blanks so stand-ins were used.
== Colt Single Action Army ==
A [[Star Model B]] was used in those scenes were the pistols had to be fired
The [[Colt Single Action Army]] serves as a second sidearm to many, such as Pike Bishop ([[William Holden]]), in the film.
[[Image:Wildbunch1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Star Model B in The Wild Bunch (note the external extractor)]]
[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Colt Single Action Army]] w/ 5" barrel known as the "Artillery" model. The most common of the SAA revolvers as it is just the right length. .45 Long Colt]]
[[Image:Wildbunch5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Pike with his Colt SAA]]


[[Image:StarPistolB.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Star Model B Pistol in 9mm]]
== Webley Mk VI ==
The British .455 [[Webley Mk VI]] revolver is used by one of the Mexican soldiers.
[[Image:Wildbunch7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Mexican soldier with a Webley]]
[[Image:Webley.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Webley Mk VI .455 Webley]]
[[Image:Arm273.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Webley Mk.VI .455]]


==Winchester Model 1912==
== Mauser Gewehr 1898 ==
 
Many of the Mexican soldiers use [[Mauser Gewehr 1898]]s at the end of the film.
Used by various members of the bunch as their shotgun of choice. The external hammer is visible when pumped.
[[Image:Mauser g98.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mauser Gewehr 1898 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Wildbunch8.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Winchester Model 1912 used during a bank robbery.]]
 
 
[[Image:WinchesterM12Trench.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Winchester Model 1912 "Trench" with heat shield and 1917 bayonet lug.]]
 
==Winchester Model 1897==
William Holden's character Pike Bishop carried a Model 1897 riot gun. This is a militarized version known as a "trench gun".
[[Image:1897.jpg#file Winchester Model 1897|none|350px|thumb|Winchester 1897 trench gun version]]
 
==M1903 Springfield|Springfield M1903A4==
 
Wielded by the few US Army soldiers in the film as well as some of the posse including Strother Martin's character. Strother Martin is using the WW2 version, not the pre-WW1 model. Since the story is set sometime during the years 1913-1916 it's incorrect.
[[Image:Wildbunch3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[Image:Wildbunch4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]


== Springfield M1903A4 ==
A [[M1903 Springfield|Springfield M1903A4]] is wielded by the few U.S. Army soldiers in the film as well as some of the posse including Coffer ([[Strother Martin]]. Coffer is using the WW2 version, not the pre-WW1 model. Since the story is set sometime during the years 1913-1916 it's anachronistic.
[[Image:M1903Mark1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Springfield M1903 Mk 1 - .30-06]]
[[Image:M1903Mark1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Springfield M1903 Mk 1 - .30-06]]
[[Image:Springfield1903.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Springfield M1903 Transitional (pre-WW2) issue - .30-06]]
[[Image:Springfield1903.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Springfield M1903 Transitional (pre-WW2) issue - .30-06]]
[[Image:Springfield03A3.jpg|thumb|none|350px|The '''World War 2 Springfield Rifle''' - the Model 03-A3.  This was a simplified version of the 1903 to supplement the M1 Garand for troops in World War 2.  Many Marines and Army rangers hit the battlefield with the 03-A3.  This example was built at the Remington plant.  During World War 2 - only Remington and Smith Corona (the typewriter company) built 03A3 rifles from the original WW1 tooling from Rock Island - .30-06]]
[[Image:Springfield03A3.jpg|thumb|none|350px|The '''World War 2 Springfield Rifle''' - the Model 03-A3.  This was a simplified version of the 1903 to supplement the M1 Garand for troops in World War 2.  Many Marines and Army rangers hit the battlefield with the 03-A3.  This example was built at the Remington plant.  During World War 2 - only Remington and Smith Corona (the typewriter company) built 03A3 rifles from the original WW1 tooling from Rock Island - .30-06]]
 
[[Image:Wildbunch3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The posse fires their Springfields]]
==Colt Single Action Army==
[[Image:Wildbunch4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Coffer with his M1903A4]]
 
Seen as a second sidearm on many through the film.
[[Image:Wildbunch5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
 
[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Colt Single Action Army]] w/ 5" barrel known as the "Artillery" model. The most common of the SAA revolvers as it is just the right length. .45 Long Colt]]
 
==Mauser Gewehr 1898|M1898 Mauser==
 
Many of the Mexican soldiers use these at the end of the film.
 
[[Image:Mauser g98.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mauser Gewehr 1898 7.92x57mm Mauser]]


==Winchester Model 1892==
==Winchester Model 1892==
 
Dutch Engstrom ([[Ernest Borgnine]]) uses one while robbing the train and members of the posse, such as Deke Thornton ([[Robert Ryan]]), use it as well. This rifle is frequently mistaken for the [[Winchester Model 1894]], but in fact all of the lever-guns in this movie are the Model 92. (The shape of the receiver is similar but differs near the trigger, with the Model 94 being more squarish and the Model 92 having a slight downward bulge.)
Ernest Borgnine's character uses one while robbing the train and members of the posse use it as well. The image below shows actor Robert Ryan with a Model 92 during the opening ambush.
 
This rifle is frequently mistaken for the Winchester Model 94, but in fact all of the lever-guns in this movie are the Model 92. (The shape of the receiver is similar but differs near the trigger, with the Model 94 being more squarish and the Model 92 having a slight downward bulge.)
 
Like all the Winchester lever-action rifles, the Winchester 92 was designed by John Moses Browning (who also designed the Colt 1911 pistol). It was the last Winchester designed for black powder cartridges, and was manufactured from 1892 up into the 1930s. The Model 92 remains a favorite of Hollywood prop men even today because it easily cycles various types of black powder blank cartridges used during film productions, unlike the much more finicky mechanism of the Model 94, which was designed with the tighter tolerances required by smokeless powder.  
Like all the Winchester lever-action rifles, the Winchester 92 was designed by John Moses Browning (who also designed the Colt 1911 pistol). It was the last Winchester designed for black powder cartridges, and was manufactured from 1892 up into the 1930s. The Model 92 remains a favorite of Hollywood prop men even today because it easily cycles various types of black powder blank cartridges used during film productions, unlike the much more finicky mechanism of the Model 94, which was designed with the tighter tolerances required by smokeless powder.  
[[Image:Wildbunch2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[Image:Winchester1892.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Winchester 1892 -.32WCF/.38-40/.44-40.]]
[[Image:Winchester1892.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Winchester 1892 -.32WCF/.38-40/.44-40.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1892.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine - .32WCF/.38-40/.44-40.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1892.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine - .32WCF/.38-40/.44-40.]]
[[Image:Wildbunch2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Deke with a Winchester '92]]


== [[Browning M1917]] ==
==Winchester Model 1897==
Pike Bishop ([[William Holden]]) carried a [[Winchester Model 1897]] riot gun. This is a militarized version known as a "trench gun".
[[Image:1897.jpg#file Winchester Model 1897|none|350px|thumb|Winchester 1897 trench gun version]]


The machine gun looks a lot like the .30-06 M1917 water cooled machine gun. But the movie takes place before then as Pershing is referenced to still be operating in Mexico. So it just might be an anachronism.
==Winchester Model 1912==
Used by various members of the bunch such as Dutch, Lyle, and Tector as their shotgun of choice. Clarence "Crazy" Lee ([[Bo Hopkins]]) used one during the opening robbery. The external hammer is visible when pumped.
[[Image:WinchesterM12Trench.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Winchester Model 1912 "Trench" with heat shield and 1917 bayonet lug.]]
[[Image:Wildbunch8.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1912 used during a bank robbery by Crazy Lee.]]


== Browning M1917 ==
The machine gun looks a lot like the .30-06 [[Browning M1917]] water cooled machine gun.  But the movie takes place before then as Pershing is referenced to still be operating in Mexico.  So it just might be an anachronism.
[[Image:M1917A1_2.jpg‎]]
[[Image:M1917A1_2.jpg‎]]
==Webley Mk VI==
This British .455 revolver is used by one of the Mexican soldiers.
[[Image:Wildbunch7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[Image:Webley.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Webley Mk VI .455 Webley]]
[[Image:Arm273.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Webley Mk.VI .455]]


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Revision as of 07:21, 19 January 2009

Colt M1911

Colt 1911s are used by the "Wild Bunch", consisting of Pike Bishop (William Holden), Dutch Engstrom (Ernest Borgnine), Lyle Gorch (Warren Oates), and Tector Gorch (Ben Johnson). In actuality though they were not used in the film because they couldn't be made to function with blanks so stand-in Star Model Bs were used when they pistols had to be fired.

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Pike with a Star Model B (note the external extractor) standing in for a 1911.
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Star Model B Pistol in 9mm

Colt Single Action Army

The Colt Single Action Army serves as a second sidearm to many, such as Pike Bishop (William Holden), in the film.

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Colt Single Action Army w/ 5" barrel known as the "Artillery" model. The most common of the SAA revolvers as it is just the right length. .45 Long Colt
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Pike with his Colt SAA

Webley Mk VI

The British .455 Webley Mk VI revolver is used by one of the Mexican soldiers.

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A Mexican soldier with a Webley
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Webley Mk VI .455 Webley
Webley Mk.VI .455

Mauser Gewehr 1898

Many of the Mexican soldiers use Mauser Gewehr 1898s at the end of the film.

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Mauser Gewehr 1898 7.92x57mm Mauser

Springfield M1903A4

A Springfield M1903A4 is wielded by the few U.S. Army soldiers in the film as well as some of the posse including Coffer (Strother Martin. Coffer is using the WW2 version, not the pre-WW1 model. Since the story is set sometime during the years 1913-1916 it's anachronistic.

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Springfield M1903 Mk 1 - .30-06
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Springfield M1903 Transitional (pre-WW2) issue - .30-06
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The World War 2 Springfield Rifle - the Model 03-A3. This was a simplified version of the 1903 to supplement the M1 Garand for troops in World War 2. Many Marines and Army rangers hit the battlefield with the 03-A3. This example was built at the Remington plant. During World War 2 - only Remington and Smith Corona (the typewriter company) built 03A3 rifles from the original WW1 tooling from Rock Island - .30-06
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The posse fires their Springfields
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Coffer with his M1903A4

Winchester Model 1892

Dutch Engstrom (Ernest Borgnine) uses one while robbing the train and members of the posse, such as Deke Thornton (Robert Ryan), use it as well. This rifle is frequently mistaken for the Winchester Model 1894, but in fact all of the lever-guns in this movie are the Model 92. (The shape of the receiver is similar but differs near the trigger, with the Model 94 being more squarish and the Model 92 having a slight downward bulge.) Like all the Winchester lever-action rifles, the Winchester 92 was designed by John Moses Browning (who also designed the Colt 1911 pistol). It was the last Winchester designed for black powder cartridges, and was manufactured from 1892 up into the 1930s. The Model 92 remains a favorite of Hollywood prop men even today because it easily cycles various types of black powder blank cartridges used during film productions, unlike the much more finicky mechanism of the Model 94, which was designed with the tighter tolerances required by smokeless powder.

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Winchester 1892 -.32WCF/.38-40/.44-40.
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Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine - .32WCF/.38-40/.44-40.
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Deke with a Winchester '92

Winchester Model 1897

Pike Bishop (William Holden) carried a Winchester Model 1897 riot gun. This is a militarized version known as a "trench gun".

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Winchester 1897 trench gun version

Winchester Model 1912

Used by various members of the bunch such as Dutch, Lyle, and Tector as their shotgun of choice. Clarence "Crazy" Lee (Bo Hopkins) used one during the opening robbery. The external hammer is visible when pumped.

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Winchester Model 1912 "Trench" with heat shield and 1917 bayonet lug.
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Winchester Model 1912 used during a bank robbery by Crazy Lee.

Browning M1917

The machine gun looks a lot like the .30-06 Browning M1917 water cooled machine gun. But the movie takes place before then as Pershing is referenced to still be operating in Mexico. So it just might be an anachronism.