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The [[Browning M2 Aircraft]] heavy machine gun appears in the film as the primary armament of US Army Air Force bombers. | The [[Browning M2 Aircraft]] heavy machine gun appears in the film as the primary armament of US Army Air Force bombers. | ||
[[Image:M2aircraft.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2 Aircraft heavy machine gun .50 BMG]] | [[Image:M2aircraft.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2 Aircraft heavy machine gun .50 BMG]] | ||
[[File:RedT 22.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedT 22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The top turret of a B-17.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M2_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M2_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The tail turret of the B-17F and early Gs.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M2_02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M2_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A waist gunner fires his M2. Note the K-13 lead-computing gunsight.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M2_03.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M2_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The chin turret and top turret firing.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M2_04.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M2_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A gunner firing his M2 from the radio room. This is odd as all the CGI B-17s in the film omit the radio room mount.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M2_05.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M2_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Sperry ball turret with its twin fifties.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M2_06.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M2_06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The waist gunners with their M2s. Note the plexiglass window and the staggered positions, which were features added to the B-17G to improved crew comfort.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M2_07.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M2_07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M2_08.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M2_08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "Cheyenne" tail guns of later B-17G models. The CGI model carries an anachronistic USAAF insignia, however, as the insignia shown was phased out in September of 1943.]] | ||
==Browning M2 Aircraft (Fixed)== | ==Browning M2 Aircraft (Fixed)== | ||
American P-40 and P-51 fighters are armed with fixed [[Browning M2 Aircraft]] machine guns. | American P-40 and P-51 fighters are armed with fixed [[Browning M2 Aircraft]] machine guns. | ||
[[Image:M2aircraft.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2 Aircraft heavy machine gun .50 BMG]] | [[Image:M2aircraft.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2 Aircraft heavy machine gun .50 BMG]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M2A_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M2A_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The fifties on the P-40 firing.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M2A_02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M2A_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "Red Tails" with their new P-51Ds.]] | ||
[[File:RedT 16.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedT 16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A "Red Tail" splashes a German fighter.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M2A_03.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M2A_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M2A_04.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M2A_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
==MG131 Machine Gun== | ==MG131 Machine Gun== | ||
[[MG131 machine gun]]s appear in the film as the primary armament of German Messerschmitt Me-109G fighters. Because it was much larger than the [[MG17 machine gun|MG17]], the MG131 required bulges in the engine cowling, which can be seen below. | [[MG131 machine gun]]s appear in the film as the primary armament of German Messerschmitt Me-109G fighters. Because it was much larger than the [[MG17 machine gun|MG17]], the MG131 required bulges in the engine cowling, which can be seen below. | ||
[[Image:MG 131.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG131 13x64mm B]] | [[Image:MG 131.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG131 13x64mm B]] | ||
[[File:RT_ME109_02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RT_ME109_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The bulges can be seen forward of the cockpit.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_MG131_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_MG131_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_MG131_02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_MG131_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The German fighters all appear to belong to Jagdgeschwader 3 "Udet" (note the stylized "U" emblem near the cockpit.)]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_MG131_03.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_MG131_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
==MG 151/20 cannon== | ==MG 151/20 cannon== | ||
The Me-109Gs in the film are also armed with [[MG 151 cannon|MG151/20 cannon]]s, seen in the underwing gondolas. | The Me-109Gs in the film are also armed with [[MG 151 cannon|MG151/20 cannon]]s, seen in the underwing gondolas. | ||
[[Image:MG-151.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The MG 151 aircraft automatic cannon 15x96mm or 20x82mm]] | [[Image:MG-151.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The MG 151 aircraft automatic cannon 15x96mm or 20x82mm]] | ||
[[File:RedT 18.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedT 18.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MG 151's are in the underwing gondolas.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_MG151_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_MG151_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The underwing gondolas, which could be easily detached, imposed weight and drag penalties, which were an acceptable trade-off if intercepting bombers. It is unlikely that they'd be used against fighters though.]] | ||
==MK 108 cannon== | ==MK 108 cannon== | ||
The German Me-262 jets are armed with four [[MK 108 cannon]]s in the nose. Me-109s were also armed with a single MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub. Tests verified that only four hits from an MK 108 were necessary to take down a bomber. With an Me-262, that's a single salvo. | The German Me-262 jets are armed with four [[MK 108 cannon]]s in the nose. Me-109s were also armed with a single MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub. Tests verified that only four hits from an MK 108 were necessary to take down a bomber. With an Me-262, that's a single salvo. | ||
[[Image:MK108.JPG|thumb|none|350px|MK 108 cannon 30mm]] | [[Image:MK108.JPG|thumb|none|350px|MK 108 cannon 30mm]] | ||
[[File:RT_ME262_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RT_ME262_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun ports for the MK 108 cannons in the nose of this doomed Me-262.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_MK108_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_MK108_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Motorkanone of an Me-109 blazing.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_MK108_02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_MK108_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_MK108_03.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_MK108_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
=Small Arms= | =Small Arms= | ||
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The pilots of the 332nd Fighter Group carry [[M1911A1]] pistols as part of their flight gear. | The pilots of the 332nd Fighter Group carry [[M1911A1]] pistols as part of their flight gear. | ||
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP]] | [[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP]] | ||
[[File:RedT 07.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedT 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M1911_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M1911_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Lightning" ([[David Oyelowo]]) with his holstered M1911A1.]] | ||
==Luger P08== | ==Luger P08== | ||
The German officer (Richard Conti) at the prison camp draws what may be a [[Luger P08]] when he discovers the escape. | The German officer (Richard Conti) at the prison camp draws what may be a [[Luger P08]] when he discovers the escape. | ||
[[Image:LugerP08Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Luger P08 - 9x19mm. This is blank adapted movie gun.]] | [[Image:LugerP08Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Luger P08 - 9x19mm. This is blank adapted movie gun.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_P08_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_P08_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
== M1 Garand == | == M1 Garand == | ||
The [[M1 Garand]] is also one of the weapons carried by American troops storming a beach. German troops are also seen armed with them. | The [[M1 Garand]] is also one of the weapons carried by American troops storming a beach. German troops are also seen armed with them. | ||
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M1 Garand .30-06]] | [[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M1 Garand .30-06]] | ||
[[File:RedT 10.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedT 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M1G_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M1G_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luftwaffe airmen prepare their airbase against air attack.]] | ||
[[File:RedT 21.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedT 21.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A German soldier runs with an M1 Garand as an airfield is attacked. Note the fake "German" halftrack; as in ''[[Saving Private Ryan]]'' this is a postwar Czech clone, identifiable by the lack of stowage boxes above the tracks.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M1G_02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M1G_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Since the airman on the right appears to be trying to work a non-existing bolt action, it's possible that these men are CGI.]] | ||
== Karabiner 98k == | == Karabiner 98k == | ||
German forces are seen using the [[Karabiner 98k]] to fire at the American planes. | German forces are seen using the [[Karabiner 98k]] to fire at the American planes. | ||
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm]] | [[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_K98k_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_K98k_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedT 11.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedT 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A German soldier aims his Karabiner 98k at a pair of attacking P-40's]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_K98k_03.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_K98k_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Pretty Boy" ([[Lars van Riesen]]) with a K98k after the attack.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_K98k_04.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_K98k_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
== MP40 == | == MP40 == | ||
German troops are armed with [[MP40]]s | German troops are armed with [[MP40]]s | ||
[[Image:MP40Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]] | [[Image:MP40Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_MP40_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_MP40_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_MP40_02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_MP40_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|German troops rush to capture a downed pilot.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_MP40_03.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_MP40_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_MP40_04.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_MP40_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A camp guard with his MP40.]] | ||
== M1919A4 == | == M1919A4 == | ||
A [[Browning M1919A4]] is seen when the American troops land on the beach. A German Ju-87 dive bomber also appears to have one in lieu of an [[MG15 machine gun]]. | A [[Browning M1919A4]] is seen when the American troops land on the beach. A German Ju-87 dive bomber also appears to have one in lieu of an [[MG15 machine gun]]. | ||
[[Image:M1919A4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1919A4 - .30-06 Springfield]] | [[Image:M1919A4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1919A4 - .30-06 Springfield]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M1919_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M1919_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M1919 on a landing craft.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_M1919_02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_M1919_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M1919 in the rear defensive position of the Ju-87.]] | ||
==Browning Automatic Rifle== | ==Browning Automatic Rifle== | ||
The [[Browning Automatic Rifle]] is one of the weapons carried by American troops storming a beach. | The [[Browning Automatic Rifle]] is one of the weapons carried by American troops storming a beach. | ||
[[Image:BAR.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Browning Automatic Rifle]] | [[Image:BAR.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Browning Automatic Rifle]] | ||
[[File:RedT 08.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedT 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
==MG34== | ==MG34== | ||
[[MG34]] machine guns are seen in twin mounts at the German airbase. | [[MG34]] machine guns are seen in twin mounts at the German airbase. | ||
[[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with front and rear sights folded down.]] | [[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with front and rear sights folded down.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_MG34_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_MG34_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The twin MG34 in a control tower.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_K98k_03.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_K98k_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_AA2_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_AA2_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another twin mounting on a German ship.]] | ||
==Kampfpistole Z== | ==Kampfpistole Z== | ||
An American airman signals from a control tower with a [[Kampfpistole Z]]. | An American airman signals from a control tower with a [[Kampfpistole Z]]. | ||
[[Image:Walther_Kampfpistole.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kampfpistole Z - 27mm]] | [[Image:Walther_Kampfpistole.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kampfpistole Z - 27mm]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_flare_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_flare_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_flare_02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_flare_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
=Other= | =Other= | ||
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Germans troops are seen firing 20mm [[FlaK 38]] anti-aircraft guns. | Germans troops are seen firing 20mm [[FlaK 38]] anti-aircraft guns. | ||
[[Image:Flak38single.jpg|thumb|none|400px|German FlaK 38 in single mounting - 20x138mm B]] | [[Image:Flak38single.jpg|thumb|none|400px|German FlaK 38 in single mounting - 20x138mm B]] | ||
[[File:RedT 02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedT 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|These are fitted with mesh brass catchers.]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_Flak38_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_Flak38_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_Flak38_02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_Flak38_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_Flak38_03.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_Flak38_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This shot appears to be flipped.]] | ||
==8.8cm FlaK 36== | ==8.8cm FlaK 36== | ||
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[[Image:FlaK36.jpg|thumb|none|400px|German FlaK 36 (note two-piece barrel with locking collar) - 88x571mm R]] | [[Image:FlaK36.jpg|thumb|none|400px|German FlaK 36 (note two-piece barrel with locking collar) - 88x571mm R]] | ||
[[Image:RedT_11.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:RedT_11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_88_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_88_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
==PLDvK vzor 53== | ==PLDvK vzor 53== | ||
The German cruiser, which is referred to a destroyer in the film, defends itself with PLDvK vzor 53 AA guns. The PLDvK vzor 53 is a land-based Czechoslovakian 30mm AA gun. | The German cruiser, which is referred to a destroyer in the film, defends itself with PLDvK vzor 53 AA guns. The PLDvK vzor 53 is a land-based Czechoslovakian 30mm AA gun. | ||
[[File:RedTails_AA2_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_AA2_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_AA2_02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_AA2_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_cruiser_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_cruiser_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The ship itself. The armament and shape of the hull and superstructure would suggest that it's a cruiser.]] | ||
=Trivia= | =Trivia= | ||
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==Prop AA guns== | ==Prop AA guns== | ||
Prop AA guns are part of the German airfield defenses. | Prop AA guns are part of the German airfield defenses. | ||
[[File:RedTails_AA_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_AA_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:RedTails_AA_02.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_AA_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
==Faux B-17F== | ==Faux B-17F== | ||
Most of the CGI B-17s in the film were of the G-model, including some with the Bendix chin turret removed and plated over to portray F-models. | Most of the CGI B-17s in the film were of the G-model, including some with the Bendix chin turret removed and plated over to portray F-models. | ||
[[File:RedTails_B17F_01.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:RedTails_B17F_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[Category:Movie]] | [[Category:Movie]] | ||
[[Category:War]] | [[Category:War]] | ||
[[Category:Czech Produced/Filmed]] | [[Category:Czech Produced/Filmed]] |
Revision as of 01:04, 11 February 2013
Red Tails is the 2012 war movie directed by Anthony Hemingway (The Wire, Battlestar Galactica) starring Nate Parker, David Oyelowo, Terrence Howard and Cuba Gooding Jr, with Bryan Cranston and Gerald McRaney. Executive Producer George Lucas had long been an aviation buff (as demonstrated in Star Wars) and had wanted to make a film about the Tuskegee Airmen for years, but was unable to secure funding due to difficulty of marketing films with predominantly black casts to white and international audiences. Lucas selected director Hemingway after seeing his work on The Wire, and along with casting director Alexa L. Fogel, also of The Wire, selected many veterans from that show to fill out the cast. For Terrence Howard and Cuba Gooding Jr, this was their second turns as Tuskegee Airmen, having starred in Hart's War and HBO's The Tuskegee Airmen, respectively.
The following weapons were used in the film Red Tails:
Aircraft Armament
Browning M2 Aircraft (Flexible)
The Browning M2 Aircraft heavy machine gun appears in the film as the primary armament of US Army Air Force bombers.
Browning M2 Aircraft (Fixed)
American P-40 and P-51 fighters are armed with fixed Browning M2 Aircraft machine guns.
MG131 Machine Gun
MG131 machine guns appear in the film as the primary armament of German Messerschmitt Me-109G fighters. Because it was much larger than the MG17, the MG131 required bulges in the engine cowling, which can be seen below.
MG 151/20 cannon
The Me-109Gs in the film are also armed with MG151/20 cannons, seen in the underwing gondolas.
MK 108 cannon
The German Me-262 jets are armed with four MK 108 cannons in the nose. Me-109s were also armed with a single MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub. Tests verified that only four hits from an MK 108 were necessary to take down a bomber. With an Me-262, that's a single salvo.
Small Arms
M1911A1
The pilots of the 332nd Fighter Group carry M1911A1 pistols as part of their flight gear.
Luger P08
The German officer (Richard Conti) at the prison camp draws what may be a Luger P08 when he discovers the escape.
M1 Garand
The M1 Garand is also one of the weapons carried by American troops storming a beach. German troops are also seen armed with them.
Karabiner 98k
German forces are seen using the Karabiner 98k to fire at the American planes.
MP40
German troops are armed with MP40s
M1919A4
A Browning M1919A4 is seen when the American troops land on the beach. A German Ju-87 dive bomber also appears to have one in lieu of an MG15 machine gun.
Browning Automatic Rifle
The Browning Automatic Rifle is one of the weapons carried by American troops storming a beach.
MG34
MG34 machine guns are seen in twin mounts at the German airbase.
Kampfpistole Z
An American airman signals from a control tower with a Kampfpistole Z.
Other
20mm FlaK 38
Germans troops are seen firing 20mm FlaK 38 anti-aircraft guns.
8.8cm FlaK 36
An 8.8cm heavy anti-aircraft / anti tank gun can be seen as American P-40s attack an air base. This appears to have a two-piece FlaK 36 barrel, though it is unclear which model of gun cradle it is using.
PLDvK vzor 53
The German cruiser, which is referred to a destroyer in the film, defends itself with PLDvK vzor 53 AA guns. The PLDvK vzor 53 is a land-based Czechoslovakian 30mm AA gun.
Trivia
CZ-75B
Ne-Yo, who plays "Smokey," fires a CZ-75B during a boot camp featurette.
Prop AA guns
Prop AA guns are part of the German airfield defenses.
Faux B-17F
Most of the CGI B-17s in the film were of the G-model, including some with the Bendix chin turret removed and plated over to portray F-models.