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Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC) | Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Hey, anime deserves to be on this site just as much as games. Most of them were drawn from concept to the us watching them, down to the very details. Gunslinger girls, Ghost in the Shell, Black Lagoon. The artists of those series took their time and effort to make then guns that appear to be as authentic as possible when they can and that in itself deserves respect in a site like this dedicate to cataloging guns from movies and shows we've seen. Anime that do draw the guns so realistic deserves to be on the same respect level as we respect the armorers for the movies and shows. Anime is a real work of art. These flash animations are just attempts at art and failing, only providing us with cheap and a lot of time free entertainment. | |||
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Revision as of 02:12, 17 December 2008
Dirty Harry
Just so you know, Rafa has already done most of the Dirty Harry films. They could use a re-vamp, though, as most of them are missing stuff that we usually consider essential to a good page.
1911
Interestingly enough, I talked to my uncle (who is from West Hurley, NY; dunno if you've ever been there) a few weeks before I moved to Texas, and he was telling me excitedly about how he purchased an STI Guardian 1911 last month. If I ever go back there, I might just have to shoot it. Actually, I get the impression he wouldn't let me rest until I do...
Anyway, to answer your question, I must point out that I rarely get to shoot at all, which is mostly a consequence of the fact that I was in college out-of-state for four years, and recently moved to another state to take a job. However, I've never been a huge fan of .45 ACP pistols, which I've simply never handled well. My grandfather gave me a S&W 4506 when I turned 18, and it's really a monster (I haven't shot it in about 4 years now). I've fired only one 1911 which also belonged to my uncle, a Springfield Armory if I recall. Great gun, but still not quite up my alley. Of the .45s I have shot, I would say I liked the P220 SAO best, but even then, not enough to buy. Don't get me wrong; I completely respect the 1911 and appreciate its importance to the development of the semi-auto pistol, but I don't shoot much, and I'm just not big into .45 ACP when I do, even though most American pistol shooters are. Also, I should point out that while I prefer the Taurus PT92 over the Beretta due to the 1911-style frame-mounted controls, I still like the SIG decocker best, which is why I'm currently leaning towards the P226 as a handgun purchase (which won't be anytime soon, since I'm not living in my state of residence right now).
BTW, nice job on improving the 1911 page. It's not perfect (lots of images still not aligned with the guns they're supposed to be with), but it does look a lot less sloppy than it used to. Keep working on those movie pages, too! -MT2008
- Depends. If you can get a Tokarev pic, great. I do, of course, have a slight preference for MPM2008's pictures because his are always done professionally, but yours would still be great, too...if you can get it.
- Don't worry about corrections. We all make mistakes. If it seems like we pick on you, it's just that you do so much work on this site that it's inevitable you'll have a lot errors, too. I mean, think of the Hard Boiled page...when you've got like 50 guns, how can you NOT get so tired that your eye slips on some of them?
- It's fine, bruh...whenever you get time. It's for the site, not for me personally.
- Oh, yeah, and while I appreciate the corrections on my mis-identification of Mossbergs (I suck with those), doesn't the Cruiser have a heat shield as standard? The ones in Training Day and The Departed don't have that, so does that just make them regular pistol-gripped 500s?
New stuff
Ah, great to see someone finally made a page for the Walther MP subguns. We've needed one for a while, and it's been on my to-do list, but I see you beat me to it! I hope you don't mind, but I did re-title the page so that it instead says "Walther MP series", to more accurately describe what it says. Also (this is totally nitpicky), there's no hyphen in the name (i.e. "MP-L" should just be "MPL"), so I did change that, too.
Thanks for uploading a Type 84 picture as well. MPM2008 said he'd do it for me at some point, but he couldn't find the mags for the Type 84s in his company's vault, so he wasn't going to take a picture until he could find them. Yours will do for now, tho. Also, do you think we should give it its own entry in the AK-47 page? I mean, the Type 84 is basically just a Type 56 that fires .223, so I figured it would be best to just include it under the Type 56 entry as a Type 56 variation. Though I guess that would get confusing...
- I added it to the AK page in the Norinco section already. And when I found the info for the Walther MP guns, they had hyphens for the L & Ks.
- Oh, I know you added the Type 84 already; I'm just question whether it should be grouped with Norinco Type 56. Anyway, didn't you get those pics from World Guns.ru? They don't use the hyphen. Which site did you get your info from?
- My information is from a book, the pictures are from that site.
- OK, interesting. Which book is it? It doesn't matter too much, I guess, but everything I've read has no hyphen. I have a Gun Digest Assault Weapons issue from 1986 which reviews the MPK, and that's what they call it, not "MP-K".
- "Small Arms From the Civil War to the Present Day" by Martin J. Dougherty made in 2005. He lists them as the MP-L and MP-K. Like you said, it doesn't really matter much.
Your articles
Hi,
You know I really like your articles, but I must make one request: Please try to add pictures of the guns, and also make sure that when you say the gun's name, you link to its page (if you've seen the Heat page recently, you'll notice I edited the guns you added to include pictures and links). I realize it's probably a pain in the ass, especially when you've got a gazillion weapons like your articles for Hollow Point or Last Action Hero, but try to do it when you get around to it. You can always do what I do: Copy and paste the code for the images and links from other pages which use the same gun, especially if the coding is complicated (i.e. getting to a specific MP5 variant). -MT2008
- First of all, no page on IMFDB can escape MT2008's obsessive-compulsive editing tendencies! Haha, no, seriously, if you look at many of the pages I've worked on, I'm always editing them from time-to-time as I realize mistakes I've made. Plus, my pages rarely get shotguns or revolvers correct (since modern military weapons and semi-auto pistols are what I know best); I tend to leave them as "unknown" for other users in the future to correct.
- As far as profanity goes, I dunno, I'm not one of the admins (come to think of it, I haven't seen any of them for a LONG time now). I'd guess it's OK provided you're just quoting a character (as you do on the Heartbreak Ridge page), but not if you're using it gratuitously, especially in conversation. You'd have to ask someone in charge for the low-down on that.
Current stuff
Just an FYI: Since I see you're working so hard on your Hollow Point page, I guess now's not the time, but...I recall there being an H&K-model rifle (probably an HK91) used by one of the police snipers in The Fugitive.
As far as the grenade launcher in Hollow Point, it does look a lot like the Arwen 37 (Google Image search it and you'll see pics), but I'm not positive. I've seen it before, too...I think in another movie somewhere.
- You sure? I watched it twice and saw no HK91 rifle. And I said it was a MK1 Arwen, the oldest model employed, which he stole from a police car, which makes sense for a cop in 1996 to use one. And I've finally finished the Hollow Point page.
I remember it being at the very end, after he's been cleared and Gerard is escorting him out, you see a sniper wandering around with what looks like an HK91 or an SR9 variant. But I haven't seen the movie in years.
You should get a picture of the Arwen launcher for your page. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiny shotgun you see is a Franchi PA3/215 with a forward hand grip. I could be wrong (it's hard to tell from the distance), but I've never seen a Serbu with a folding stock, and I never thought they existed.
Heat
You should replace my screenshot of Trejo's AK's front sight with yours. Mine is from a low-quality AVI rip of the movie.
Also, what's a "P220-1"? I don't think I've ever heard that term used to describe a P220 before. Are you just referring to the fact that it's an older model P220 with a stamped slide and alloy frame?
- It's what someone else listed it as earlier before. I assume it is meant to label the oldr model but I too haven't heard the term, I just went along with it. I don't change something unless it looks wrong or I think it is. Leave your username so I can respond back to you.
- Oh, right, I always forget to do that. Personally, I wish IMFDB would add an option to automatically sign messages on other people's walls.
- From what I've been reading, "P220-1" is apparently what some magazines for the gun are marked. I also see that the picture you found on a Google image search is also labeled "P220-1". I don't think it's a factory term (or even a fan-made term) for older-model P220s. I've heard the term "P220 American" to describe the P220s that have the magazine release near the decocker (as opposed to the bottom of the grip, which characterized the early European models) because this was apparently done specifically for the American market. -MT2008
- Well, it's a bit more complicated with SIG than with Glock to label things in "Generations". I have certainly heard terms like "Gen 1" and "Gen 2" to describe Glocks (in fact, I often use them in my own articles), but when it comes to SIGs, they've made a zillion little changes to the guns every couple years to refine problems that developed. Like the moves from stamped to milled slides, K-kote and stainless finishes, magazine release changes, standard frames to railed frames (which are now standard on all of the P220-series guns, so they don't use the "R" to describe them anymore), etc, etc, etc. Plus, there were mechanical changes (i.e. redesign of the trigger bar spring) and ergonomic changes (i.e. redesign of the grips). These aren't changes that were introduced in any concrete "generations"; any SIG pistol you pick up might have some of the design changes, but lack others.
- So I'm not really sure how each "generation" would be described exactly. In fact, it'd be kind of weird to call the gun in your picture a "Gen 1" because that's technically not true - the very first P220 was the model with the magazine release on the bottom of the grip, which was eventually replaced by what gun rags used to call the "P220 American" (the first model to feature the regular push-button mag release, and the best description for McCauley's gun). Would that make McCauley's gun a Gen 2? I'm not really sure. -MT2008
- Oh, I know Glock gens. Those are quite easy in comparison, even though there have been some internal mechanical changes to Glocks as well within generations.
- All-metal SIGs are nice guns, IMO. I can definitely say I'd love to own a P226 as soon as I can get my permit application completed (which sucks because in Orange County, NC, I have to get 3 references from other people before I can apply for a pistol purchase permit at the local sheriff's dept. office). It's one of the most ergonomic pistol designs I've ever fired. However, you gotta be careful with what you buy because they've had lots of mechanical issues over the years. I also think they're kind of overpriced for what you get. But...still very nice guns.
- Congrats on the new compensator for the 1911. Have fun with that! BTW, nice job on The Rock page. I've been making corrections (as usual, because, you know...that's what I do), but it's cool you got so many high-quality screenshots uploaded.
Defense Technologies
Here is a picture of what the DefTech/Federal Labs launcher looks like:
These have appeared in quite a few films, often portrayed as HE grenade launchers (RoboCop 3 is a good example). Anyway, it could be a C.A.W., but the arms of the folding stock visible in the second pic look kind of like DefTech to me. Hopefully, Al Vrkljan will start posting on this site again soon so that we can ask him!
Great Work!
Thanks for uploading the poster for the Catch a Fire page. I have also seen your pages and screenshots, and I would like to say they are great. Thanks for your contributions to the IMFDB, and keep up the good work. Alienqueen11
Response
I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures of the guns I held years ago. the handguns I held are my Uncle's, he's a retired police officer, and I'm not sure if he'll let me look at them again because you know how some people are about firearms, but I can tell you that the .22 pistol was a very small if that will help. And also, there is another page larger then Bad Boys II, and it's MoviePropMaster2008's District B13 with 37 guns. User: Alienqueen11
Thanks
Thanks for identifying the shotguns on the Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem page, I hope the brighter screenshots helped. I still can't believe how dark that movie is, I know there's a blackout, but they didn't need to make the movie that dark. And also, I want to say excellent job on Toy Soldiers. Alienqueen11
About Language
Hey, I want to say good work on Heartbreak Ridge, there are so many pages on this site that need improvement. Also, I see you're wondering about language, I'm a moderator myself, and from I see, Bunni, the person who owns the site dosen't seem to mind as long as it is used in a quote or complaint, and not for vandalism. Just don't use anything racist, but I'm sure you won't. Alienqueen11
- OK, that's what I figured, too, but I wanted to be sure. I did notice that some of the quotes which appear on the Main Page have profanity (like the one from Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels), but it's an issue that's never been addressed at all.
MGS4 M1911A1
Hey, Gunmaster, I seen your comment on the MGS4 page and found a link that might help:
There you go, hope this helps. This game looks so great, it makes me wish I had a PS3. Alienqueen11
.50 Caliber 1911?
Yes, there is a .50 Caliber 1911. Guncrafter Industries Model No. 1 .50 GI. The bullet is roughly the same dimensions as the .45 ACP, just a little wider. Not the most practical gun, but it's a .50 1911 model.
Also, the Automag V is the .50 caliber version, The Automag III is chambered for .30 Carbine (I actually got to play with one of these, slide is loooooong.) Not to be snide or cocky, you know your material, just saying.
Furthermore, I commend you with your eagle eyes spotting all the famous movieguns we've seen time and time again. Gun guys have to stick together, especially the next generation. If you ever want to contact me outside the site, email me at companygunner@yahoo.com, or if you have an AIM account I'll be more than happy to IM. Keep up the great work.
Nice work on Platoon
It's shaping up nicely - I just made it the featured article on the front page. bunni 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Other answers (sorry for belated delivery)
.."how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect?"
- I put the weapons on a clear plexiglass frame mount which I built from scratch. I place them in front of a seamless white paper backdrop. I illuminate the gun from one side with a large Arriflex Soft box and a smaller Lowel RIFA soft box on the other side. Sometimes I just put an LTM pepper on spots to lighten up dark areas. Then I put an Arriflex 1K on wide flood on the backdrop to whiten it out. I still need to erase some of the clear plexiglass mount (nothing is invisible, even clear transparent stuff) with Photoshop, but since most of the work is done before I download it onto the computer, it becomes much easier. I also move back at least ten feet and photograph the gun with a telephoto lens. This eliminates the 'warp' distortion of a wide angle lens when photographing a gun. Too many gun images are distorted because the photographer is too close ... and I see a lot of guy's feet at the bottom of the picture.
.."I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great..."
- Done. Hope you like :) I will get some pics of M21s soon.
.."Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. ..."
- I inundated MT2008 with info that there was no Colt launcher. Personally I didn't know who made or updated the page, he just sent me a note asking my opinion ... and SLAM! I dumped a bunch of stuff on him questioning the Colt claim. good thing he didn't get offended. hahaha I just responded to his query on my talk page. :)
.."Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM.."
- The net has CRAPPY images. It's really hard, which is why I just pull out the stuff myself and take my own photos of it. I liked the idea of keeping a reference image. I am tempted to take a side by side pic myself (and not violate anyone else's copyright) and keep the clean white backdrop of the other pics. But I do have a couple of pics comparing them on the M16 page, i.e. mounted on rifles.
- Yeah, the "Colt 37mm Flare Launcher" thing is completely my fault. I dunno why I thought they were made by Colt, but I swore I heard that term somewhere on the 'Net. Just goes to show why fact-checking is always mucho importante! But seriously, I'm glad MPM is always here to catch my goofs. See, GM, that's kinda how it works...I catch yours, he catches mine, and then everything works out for the better. -MT2008
Last Action Hero
I remember working peripherally (I helped out on some of the props, but wasn't on the armory staff at the time) on that film. Everyone DURING production was moaning about how dumb it was. And it was pretty dumb. I guess the people (NOT the stars) who work on films can actually tell if a movie is stinker when it's actually being filmed, I remember all of us laughing at the RAMBO III script when we saw it. Anyway, I will look for that pistol, but I'm not making any promises. I sure don't have one and off the top of my head, I don't know anyone who does. But I can ask around.
Also, Just a note, I really think that the MAC-10 in the film is actually MAC-11s (or possibly Cobray M11s, but I can't see how long the receivers are). They're much too small to be MAC-10s. I have average sized hands and MAC-10s are monstrously huge in my hands. Unless those stuntmen are giants, I think those are MAC-11s. Also it's funny that you DID note what I said about TEC-DC9s (being that they were usually seen in films after 1990). Apparently someone was listening. hahahaha. :) But those in the photos of Arnold, are in fact TEC-9s, not TEC-DC9s. they have the sling mount in front so they're TEC-9s. Also I don't remember if they fired full auto in the film, but as far as I know, all the TEC-DC9s in Hollywood inventory are semi auto only. All the full auto ones are legal full auto conversions of TEC-9s. Only Miami Vice and a couple of other shows in the early 1980s used the old InterDynamics KG-99s. But most of the full auto guns you see are TEC-9s.
I own M21s, but they're in pieces. I have to reassemble them, get a cool scope to put on them. Also we have M21s that just came back from Iraq, I can also take some pics of those.
Nice job
Hey, nice job on the Jurassic Park page, and the other pages you did over the weekend, and also I think you forgot to put A Beautiful Mind on your Pages Built list. Alienqueen11
Re: Nice Job
I understand what you mean, I have school as well, and I understand the weekends are going to be the only times when you can make something big for awhile. Anyway, good luck, and keep up the good work. Alienqueen11
M1911 shots by MPM2008
I am getting some shots of some pristine Early 20th century and World War 2 era M1911s and M1911A1s, so be patient. I also am trying to get beauty shots of a lot of the classic handguns. I got a collector who has mint condition examples of lots of these classic guns and I am scheduling a shoot with him and his collection next week. MoviePropMaster2008
Uzi
About the Uzi page, you might want to leave a note on Bunni's talk page, he'll probably know what to do.--Alienqueen11 18:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Training Day Revolver
You want evidence, and an argument, you got one. First off, The S&W Model 66 is made of stainless steel, and not carbon steel plated with nickel. Model 19s were originally released with blue or nickel finishes. Second, A snub nosed, round butt Model 19 is a dime a dozen across the states. Here's a picture resembling the one from Training Day.
Look at the picture on the Training Day page, and they look identical, very identical, more so than any Taurus I have seen, or can find on the internet. No it doesn't have the emblem on the side, but that can be sanded off, photoshopped, or just not visible. None of us KNOW what this is, but I do KNOW my argument and my gun makes the most sense, above an Instant Backup, above a lot of things. Thank you for your time.
Call of Duty 4 Pictures
I have Pictures for guns in Call of Duty 4, but I have no clue how to get them to work
I've given up trying, and would just like to know who to send them to,
Pictures for: The Single player M4s [All three], Winchester M1200, M92 Krinkov, M21, And the USP
- Since I can't trace your profile, I hope you read it on mine. Give me a URL to whatever page has these pics and I'll upload em for you. Sound good?
Re: Saving Private Ryan
I only took that one screenshot, wasn't planning on any more. Didn't mean to step on your toes there, was sort of done on impulse. Orca1 9904 18:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
- It's awesome! And I have it in the Main Page "Featured Article" feed, too, so lots of people will get to see the overhaul. I always like it when I see a page that makes me want to watch a movie again, and this one is like that. Those Garand shots make me want to buy the M1 that I saw on sale this weekend (but...saving my $$$$ for the long dreamed-of P226 again).
- Anyway, I'll look more later, but must watch Presidential debate now.
- I've always loved the way the Garand ejects the stripper clip on the last round. My grandfather's a vet, and he's told me that he used to find it scary. But I find it oddly appealing in a retro-sorta way. If you get to play around with an original GI-issue M1, lucky you.
- The Garand photos are really cool. As far as banning anonymous users from editing goes, I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. But at the very least, we really do need to have more moderators on hand.
Good call on the xXx
But it's spelled "xXx: State of the Union" Check out [[2]] as well as the first movie. I would have just changed it myself, but didn't want to jump out of the blue and just change your edit. Thanks. MPM2008
re: gun pics. I do have those guns but it takes time to do the photos. I am going to get new pics of actual M16A2s, a3s and a4s, sure some look alike but I'll try to get some good detail shots of the receivers if I remember. I went to the vault to take pics of the original m1911s and they're not there. I have to check with other people to see where they were moved.
Dibbs
The only film I would request or challenge dibbs rights on ;) is Rambo III since I (peripherally) worked on Rambo III and I would like to add information not readily available to the general public. Have you done the screen caps already? If not then I would be happy to, especially to highlight certain scenes with custom info. MPM2008
About the screencaps on COD4.
How did get them?
Sick-vice 22:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Re:XXX
Ah, OK. Well, understood then. It sucks when the director doesn't show good views of the actor/actress with a particular gun, but it's fine. Just a suggestion.
Nice work so far on Kelly's Heroes. While you're doing that, I think I'm going to get started soon on Where Eagles Dare.
On Kelly's Heroes
I'm sure you know this but Pt. Petuko is carrying an FN model D machine gun, completely the WRONG machine gun to be carrying. Also the leather Thompson Submachine gun magazine pouches aren't American but Yugoslavian Post war (1950s manufacture). Americans had khaki canvas Thompson stick pouches. MPM2008
M1911s
Per your request...Check out the new M1911 pics. I scored some really nice ones, a 1913 dated M1911 (original blued finish) and a World War 2 wartime dated M1911A1. I replaced some of the pics of repros in the original sections with those. Check it out. Thanks. MPM2008.
Need some help
Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?
-Excaliber
Are you sure?
You changed the section in The Unit from a Ruger MK II to this HDM gun. Are you sure this is the same weapon? The photo you added barely looks like the one in the series.
- What about the Mossberg? It didn't quite look like the Express Deer model.
Reign of Fire
I have no clue as to what that gun is. I don't have any opportunities to talk to John McKenna being that he's exclusively in Europe and I don't even know if he's ever visited the U.S. If you ever figure out what the gun is, I can try to see if anyone has it, but all the .577s I've seen are double rifles and not bolt action rifles. MPM2008
577 pic
Congrats on the pic!!! :) I did not know anything about that gun. As you probably well figured out by now, I don't own one, nor does my company. But I can start asking around to see if any of the armorers have one so that I can take a beauty shot of it. Good job. MPM2008
The Punisher
The guy who made The Punisher page is never on anymore, so I would say you can indeed redo it, it needs a revamp. Just promise me you'll break up the additional weapons section on that page, I can't stand when people cram a bunch of different weapons into one section like that, it has nothing to do with things you do like the Armory section on Hard Boiled because you branch out. Also did you get my message on The Sin City talk page? Thanks in advance for the revamp.--Alienqueen11 03:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Dawn of the Dead
Hey, I just uploaded some new Dawn of the Dead (2004) screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights, and also can Mossberg sights be put on an 870? Thanks in advance.--Alienqueen11 03:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the help on the shotgun, and the Glock. Do you want me to take your comments off the page or leave them for future reference? Also you have really good eyes.--Alienqueen11 04:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Tears of the Sun
I saw you comment that you were planning on editing the Tears of the Sun page. If it's ok with you, I'd like to do it, as I recently bought the DVD of it just for that purpose. Orca1 9904 07:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
Re:Tybalts Gun
You can't talk to anonymous uses? I think I've done it before. Watch for a second... -MT2008
Ak recog
Interesting Idea on the AK recog page. I will keep it in mind. Right now a lot of the AKs are customized into weird configs but they will eventually be put back to stock version. The only problem right now is that there are tons of post 1999 AK variants (Hungarians, Polish, Romanian, US made, etc.) that I don't have access to. California banned all AK models after Dec 31st 1999, but we could get them with a special permit, but 99.99% of the guys (myself included) didn't bother picking up any of the new AK models since we already had dozens upon dozens of the older 1980s version AKs. Like Sacha Robey's .223 AKs for Casino Royale, many of the foreign movies have access to AKs that are not imported into the U.S. I will look into getting page for the most common AK examples but usually there are the Maadi ARM(MISRS), Poly Tech Legends, Norinco Type 56, Romanian AIMS or Hungarian SA85s. That's about it for most of the AKs I've seen (and usually they are all 'dressed up' to look like other models if necessary). Again, interesting idea and I will start making note of and taking pics of AKs for that page.... MoviePropMaster2008
Jarhead M60E3
The real-life M1 Abrams has never been fitted with any variant of the M60 machine gun, it has always had two M240 machine guns; one mounted in a 'coaxial' configuration parallel to the main 120mm gun, and a second mounted at the Loader's hatch. The Browning M2 heavy machine gun at the Commander's hatch is correct though. If you look at my userpage on here, there's a picture of a real M1A1 in Iraq, the Loader's M240 being clearly visible. Orca1 9904 23:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
animated gifs
Can you do this? I never realized someone did one for HEAT and I though (for a few select pages or a few select guns) it would be cool. You seem to be the guru of screen capping, but I don't know how to make an animated GIF.
Just made you an Admin
You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) WikiSysop 03:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Reign of Fire
Great work on Reign of Fire. Good thing I took a pic of my Ultimax Mk 2 ;) If you want, the next time I do a big shoot at the Class III vault, I'll snap a pic with a stick magazine rather than the drum. We got so many Ultimax Mk2s (at least a half a dozen) and they're aren't often used. I just want to find someone with a Para model to photograph. :) MPM2008
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Yeah, I figured it was about time we had a page for the Non Guns. If we have one for the MGC M16 replicas, I figured we needed one for these. The convenient timing makes it better...please get a screenshot of Travolta with the Beretta Inox Non Gun and add the movie to my Non Guns page. -MT2008
- Ah, shit, forgot about that. Do you want to use the one I uploaded instead? ISS's pictures are a bit annoying because they have the measuring tape above the gun; I prefer the ones from Weapons Specialists, which are what you see on the Non Guns page. -MT2008
- Have to run out for a bit, but I'll be back later and do it then.
- BTW, just so you know, the round you see ejecting out of Harris's 1911 in the film isn't a live round, and it wasn't edited. That's what full-flash motion picture blanks look like after being fired. The extra powder has to be packed into an extension of the brass that might look like an actual projectile. Some guns have to have their ejection ports widened in order to function properly with these, though I don't believe 1911s do. You'd have to ask MPM2008 about this, as I'm sure I'm getting the details partially wrong in some way. -MT2008
Jaws
Hey GM45, Are you by any chance interested in screencapping Jaws? Because if you aren't, I have the dvd and I would like to do it if it's not on your dibbs list.--Alienqueen11 02:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Top Pages
Very cool idea - nice work. bunni 05:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- I'll look into automating some of it, will let you know if I have any luck. bunni 03:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll do as soon as I possibly can. I'll be sure to have a quite a few good M1 Garand shots, and I definitely won't forget Scheider's famous line before he blows up the shark. And I will also be screencapping Four Brothers, and Assault on Precinct 13 (2005), so you can look forward to seeing those in the future as well.--Alienqueen11 05:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Jaws is now finished, be sure to check it out when you get the chance, and tell me what you think. I also put two extra screenshots on the it's talk page if you want to see those too.--Alienqueen11 01:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
I can't change the order of the 'next page' buttons - but what about creating separate 'starting pages' or 'portals' grouping sequels and series - for example having the box and poster art of all the Matrix movies, anime and video games on one page with links to the individual pages? bunni 02:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC) s No problem, you were one of the best choices for a mod position. Excellent work on the Leone Trilogy, you've built up the Western side of the site very well. And thanks, Four Brothers is a good movie, and it needed a completed page.--Alienqueen11 19:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
thanks
Thanks for the congrats. Here is a picture of the P226 that the guy who's selling it sent me:
It's a bit roughed up externally (which is to be expected, considering it's probably 15 years old), and I'll probably need to re-blue the hammer, but at $450, it was a pretty good deal (gun + three 15-round mags and a replacement short trigger). Plus, in my opinion, the stamped slide SIGs are of better quality than the ones with cheaply-milled American slides that SIG-Sauer produces today.
Most of my extended family (grandparents, cousins, aunt and uncle) are in New York, so I know what you mean about the gun laws there. Although I'm applying for a Master's program at NYU next year, in which case, I'll be in a worse situation. And yes, I do agree with that I'm very concerned about Biden being the VP. Obama may be the most left-wing president we've ever had once he takes office, but I expect him to be far too preoccupied with the economy and the wars (as well as the Russians) to care much about gun control. Biden, on the other hand, could be a very different story. I remember feeling terribly worried when I heard Obama chose him as VP - for precisely the reason you've mentioned! If he tries to push a new AWB through, it will definitely get through Congress, and Obama will sign it into law. I'm actually trying to persuade my dad, who cares very little for assault weapons, to buy an AR15 variant sometime before Obama gets into office. We definitely have some rough times ahead. -MT2008 01:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Eh, my dad mostly likes guns for "historical" value, as opposed to guns that are "tacticool", so if you can convince him a gun has historical value, he might get interested in it. That was the argument I used when I was 18 and trying to persuade him to let me buy an AK (which damn near gave my very-liberal mother an aneurism). Once I bought it and he had the chance to shoot it, he did become fascinated with the Kalashnikov, mostly just because he admires their ruggedness and simplicity and the fact that it's been such an important weapon in 20th century combat. But he doesn't seem to have as much enthusiasm for the evil black guns with polymer parts, like ARs or H&Ks.
- As far as politics go, no worries. I'm pretty sure most people on this site feel the same way about Biden right now. I know I sure do. It's too bad we got him when we could've had a pro-RKBAer like Palin. Except that Palin's kind of a ditz and I don't really care too much about shit like banning gay marriage or teaching creationism in schools. But still...
- BTW, very nice job on the Last Man Standing page! Though I would recommend maybe being a little less exhaustive when it comes to screencaps. I know it's always tempting to use everything you've taken...every time I screencap a movie for IMFDB, I take probably three or four times the numbers of screencaps I actually wind up using on the page. -MT2008 02:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- I must concur with MT2008, the screen caps are beautiful, but there seem to be too many of the same sequence or gun. No offense intended, but it takes a long time to scroll down the page to see the 'Next' firearm used. When I screencap, I end up discarding all but the most clear shots of the guns. IMHO. :) best regards MoviePropMaster2008 19:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
crap
I posted a long and detailed response to all your questions or queries ... and then my computer froze up and I lost all of it. %(*$&^% I am running out to outfit a bunch of people with weapons today, so I will have to try to rewrite what I wrote this weekend. Sorry. MoviePropMaster2008 19:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
You can start the Quick and The Dead if you like, I should be able to work around your screengrabs. And thanks for the comment, I've taken a page from your book by just putting the name of the movie and Category:Screenshot in a screenshot's description because writing an entire description of a screenshot can be a pain and can make creating a page seem like it takes forever.--Alienqueen11 02:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't think you should get rid of those pictures, I think they're great. I saw the Shooter one, and I'm going to get shots of that eventually, and also good luck with getting your work done.--Alienqueen11 03:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Empty Pages I Created
Planning to add to them. Just starting them up while I get info together. Sorry about that. If it's best to delete them in the meantime that's fine and I'll go from there. CyclopsScott 03:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Western guns
I am trying to get pristine examples of a bunch of Western guns. I already have a Nickel SAA with ivory grips and a two tone SAA with rosewood grips and partial brass frame. the Nickel SAA has been in films. But getting new and high resolution pics of all of the guns on your western movie pages is on my list of things to do. :) I may have a line on a real (not replica) buntline and Bisley, so I'll get pics of those.MoviePropMaster2008 08:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Hotel Rwanda
GREAT work on the Hotel Rwanda Page. It's a very polished page. I'm particularly tickled that my Shot of an African G3 got some use! ;) MoviePropMaster2008 23:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
The World Is Not Enough (video game)
Hey bro, in the video games section, the game "The World Is Not Enough (video game)" should be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough
I'm new to this site and you're the only admin I come across. Hope you can show me around.
edit: Thanks for the reply bro. appreciate it. will let you know if i need help.
FYI
Nearly all blank adapted M16 variants in movies use the old style M16A1 birdcage flashhider. Directors want to the see the 'star pattern' full flash and the A2 style birdcage flashhiders with the solid bottom looks stupid with the high flash blanks. Don't know if you noticed by all of my A2s and (most of the M4s that are already blank adapted) have the A1 style flash hider. Also this is obvious in screengrabs of movies like Cloverfield, where there is obvious flash going downwards (which would not be the case if a real A2 flash hider was used). I will try to get an SP1 with a 30 round mag and an m203 for you. I 'may' be able to score that original weird fake M203 from someone who has one (they were made by Special Effects Unlimited in the late 1970s and aren't like anything commercially available now. In fact they were made before there were any unrestricted M203 look a likes available.) Nowadays everyone uses the Cobray/SWD ones. Good work. MoviePropMaster2008 21:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Walther P99 page
hey bro you might wanna add Rogue (Jet Li) from the movie War in the page
i'm still learning how to edit. apologies
edit: appreciate it :)
Hollowpoint
I've been looking at that Hollowpoint page for a while. I spoke to MT2008 a while ago, and mentioned that we had a bunch of Type 84s in weird configurations and that I was going to restore them. After shooting the one in the classic Type 84 config, I was looking at a stripped barreled receiver and quickly put on some other wood and replaced the standard front site with a type 56 underfolding spike bayonet front end. That barrel's end was milled down anyway (which I don't like but a lot of the military guns were like that). I like threaded barrels so that I can put any flash hider or muzzle brake that I want. I finally got a pic uploaded and now IMFDB is the only site on the entire internet that has the "Hollowpoint rifle" or at least I think. So the short answer is that I made the gun to be identical to the movie gun. Dave Young is a canadian armorer (or at least works 99% of the time in Montreal) and I've seen a lot of weird hybrid guns in the Canadian armorer circles.
American Gangster page
Hey bro in the American Gangster page, it says Denzel Washington is wielding a 1911. But when you go to Denzel's page, it
says Denzel is using the browning hi-power. Please clarify.
the subject of "dibbs"
Don't want to cause controversy, but I am not comfortable with the concept of calling Dibbs on the pages. Since any member or new visitor has the right to make their contributions, it seems like pre=emptively telling new members 'don't touch this page'. Sure you or anyone else can fix someone else's screw ups or replace crappy screen caps with good ones, IMHO it may send the wrong message that there is only the 'elite few' who can touch some pages. Sure, I don't like it when people "fix" the pages that I worked on (especially the ones that were blank before I spent my time fixing it), but I do have the power (as do you) to remove inaccurate or silly input. I have replaced low res or bad screencaps (look at what I did on "The spirit") and it didn't bother me when someone rushed out an redid the "Iron man" page before I could get to it (I Pre-ordered and purchased the DVD just for screengrabbing purposes, but my job got busy, and someone beat me to it and I didn't mind because they did a good job). Anyway, that's my opinion. You do a great job on screencaps (albeit I'm one of those that think there are too many images of the exact same gun on the page, but that's just my opinion. Others like Alienqueen for example, seem to love the many images, so who knows?) Hopefully we can encourage and guide new members to make good screen caps and contributions as well. anyway that's just an opinion. I think we can always see if new members want to try their hand at working on pages. Chances are most won't, so we will end up doing it anyway. But I would prefer the 'perception' that we encourage people of 'good intentions' (versus the idiot vandals) to contribute to the site. Anyway, thats just an opinion. Would be happy to hear your thoughts. MoviePropMaster2008 21:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Check it out
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
MoviePropMaster2008 01:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.
There you go, I cut the black bars off the Hostage screenshots for you, I really like that Two Tone Beretta 92FS, I asked MPM2008 if he could get a picture of one like that. Anyway, the screenshots may look wierd at first, but that will fix itself soon. Great work on Hot Fuzz so far.--Alienqueen11 02:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
It always does that when I do an image overwrite, don't know why though. It will look distorted or squished, or still look like the old image for a little while before it finally changes to the newer version.--Alienqueen11 02:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
fun gun
thought you'd get a kick out of this... ;) You being someone who knows a lot about guns and does a lot of firearms research, you'd know how rare this one is. hahahahah :)
Well you wouldn't see it in any American weapons catalogue. :) It was issued only to German Paratroopers of Nazi germany. Very few were made and BTW they're full auto guns. Imagine firing a rifle at your shoulder that dumps a 20 round box magazine of full sized 8mm Mauser rounds (!) on another note, I've been trying to get pics of the imperial Japanese guns (like the Type 100 or Type 97 MGs) for a while now. Stembridge used to have tons of them :( you know, I make a note of some of the pages you do, and the ones with lots of details, I make a list to try and get good examples of the guns. I still can't get a stainless 5906. But I'll still keep trying. I like your Hot fuzz page. Usually I try to get the gun to look just like the ones used in the movie (like the AMD-65 I did for the Rambo III page or the "Hollowpoint" Type 84). MoviePropMaster2008 05:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Excellent work!!
Congratulations for your work on Hot Fuzz, it's wonderfully done!
Movies to screengrab
I sure hope Mr. & Mrs Smith and TAPS are on your list. I am more curious which version of Mr. & Mrs. Smith you might have. I now know there are two (2) versions. the one I have is the original theatrical release, which is missing about 5 minutes of battle scenes from the television cut. I hope you have the other one, or have access to it. There are firearms shots in the longer version that I can't screen grab. best regards MoviePropMaster2008 03:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Screencaps
I sure hope you can replace those Bootleg Tropic Thunder screencaps with your legal ones asap ;) I always cringe when I see bootleg DVD images (especially those from China). Looking forward to it.
Remington 870
Do you recall any film that has an 870 with a long hunting barrel? I recall seeing one on the site but it doesn't come up in a search. Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008 20:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. Yes, it was the UNIT that I saw the use, but I'm pretty surprised that we haven't seen more long barreled 870s in Movies or TV. They're so ubiquitous. MoviePropMaster2008 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Morita Rifle
Sorry about the page. Funny that we were working on the same page at exactlyi the same time. hahaha. Well I got some original props from the movie, including my own rig from the battle scenes (but I'm too fat now to fit into it anymore hahahaha). My own Morita Rifle from the movie is pretty beat up, but now I have motivation to repair it and photograph it for the continuing Glory of IMFDB. Hope you're feeling better :) regards MoviePropMaster2008 03:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Bangkok Dangerous
I used the High Def Internet trailer for Bangkok Dangerous to screen grab, so they're not bootleg images. I have not seen this movie, but I am unsure about some of my Gun Identifications. Just dropping a line, since I replaced some of your screengrabs. regards MoviePropMaster2008 05:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
tropic thunder
I'll try to get you a Colt Sporter II in the exact configuration of Tropic Thunder very soon. It's on my list of things to do (along with redoing all the Colt carbine shots with the new digital camera (some of the older shots were with an old film camera and scanned on a flat bed scanner). Also you're right about the closeness of the blank firing pistol to be dangerous, but it's not that bad. The rule of thumb is 15 feet (but we try to get them to divert the angle so it's off axis and we also warn them that unburnt powder can still hit your eyes.). In the shot with Jack Black, it doesn't look too bad. We've done closer than 15 feet, but we take special precautions. MoviePropMaster2008 21:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
590
BTW, hope you don't mind, but I'm replacing your low rez image of the 590 with my own. MoviePropMaster2008 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
The Dark side of movie guns
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. MoviePropMaster2008 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
You're not gonna believe this
I MAY have tracked down a custom .577 T-Rex to photograph. Still want it? Since they are usually custom built, some of the minor design details might be slightly different. normally I wouldn't care, but I was looking through a rack of another guy's armory and I asked "what's that gun?" and he quipped, oh a .577..... It just doesn't have a scope mounted yet. MoviePropMaster2008 19:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
On some of your pics
Hope you don't mind, on some of your gun pics (the guns I don't have access to just yet) I was going to 'color correct' them and remove some of the excessive 'white space' around them. I was just going to get rid of any 'greenish' or yellow or bluish tints and make the colors more correct and reload them. So if you see some pics that have been reloaded, some of them are just the same pic but 'color corrected'. regards. MoviePropMaster2008 18:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Smokin' Aces
Hey GM45, do you by any chance have Smokin' Aces? If you do, is there a possibility you can put it on your to do list? Not that you have to screencap it, I'm just asking because that page is in need of better screenshots. And don't worry, I'll chop the black bars off some of the screencaps eventually.--Alienqueen11 03:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
New screencaps
GREAT job on the Crank screen grabs. Are you doing Blu ray now? :) MoviePropMaster2008 04:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Workload
hahahaha. Well i got my massive GUNS to photograph to do list ;) I've photographed over 200 guns so far.... It sure doesn't seem like it but I looked at my 'transfered to IMFDB folder' and there are about 207 images that were taken from original photographs. What's killing me right now is that I can get to the cool vintage western stuff, but the guys are so hard to get a hold of. regards... MoviePropMaster2008 04:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Happy Thanksgiving
Hope you're eating well :) regards 76.199.198.193 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Re:U.S. Marshals
Yeah, sure, that would be fine. Mine are OK, but kinda low-res. I would definitely prefer higher-res alternative. Also note that some of my shots don't appear on the page itself (i.e. the shot of Robert Downey Jr. with his Glock-22 which I took for the actor page). -MT2008 17:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
anonymous users
It's a very simple change to block anonymous users from making any edits, how to stop them from just making new pages I haven't quite figured out... I think we may just try disallowing edits from anonymous users for a while - my worry is that we will lose potential newcomers who may not understand they have to register first, I'll need to figure out a way to display a message to anonymous users that they must register first... I'm working on it. bunni 20:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. It's a bottle with gasoline in it. It's not manufactured or crafted, like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.
Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.
Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.
Since you made it and put effort into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO MoviePropMaster2008 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Molotovs
Thanks for the explanation. :) I figured it was something like that. MoviePropMaster2008 21:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
.PNG Images
Yeah, I use .pngs in place of traditional .jepgs. They take a while to load, but they're a lot clearer and less pixelated, and with the low res 90s movies I build pages for, I need all the clarity I can get.
Thinking of overwriting some of the Thompson Pics
I was just giving you the heads up, since one of the uploaded pics of Thompsons is one you uploaded. I was going to overwrite it with one of these. Let me know if you have any objections. I am also adding the M1s and M1A1s when I get a chance. MoviePropMaster2008 02:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.
The page on IMDFB. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi
Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode) http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf
Your thoughts and opinions on the matter are appreciated. MoviePropMaster2008 08:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
the other Glock
Can you take a look at the other Glock in my Resident Evil page? I'm trying to see if it's a Glock 26.
Alien Nation
I think you're right about the shotgun. I'm going to change it. MoviePropMaster2008 06:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Re: Jingle All the Way
Thanks for the compliments on Jingle All the Way. I actually have a VHS copy of this movie and saw it this evening on TV. I might try to snag the DVD to screencap it, but if anyone else has it they're free to do so themselves if they wish. Orca1 9904 05:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
The Dark Knight
I think Gunner313 basically just adds pictures he got off other sites, he said he does before. You can still do The Dark Knight, you're one of the best screencappers on here, if you really want to screencap it, you should.--Alienqueen11 20:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page?
Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time Excalibur01
- I was using Microsoft Paint and then realize I could crop the wide screen effect. Excalibur01 00:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I can't be nice anymore
Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. Excalibur01 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, anime deserves to be on this site just as much as games. Most of them were drawn from concept to the us watching them, down to the very details. Gunslinger girls, Ghost in the Shell, Black Lagoon. The artists of those series took their time and effort to make then guns that appear to be as authentic as possible when they can and that in itself deserves respect in a site like this dedicate to cataloging guns from movies and shows we've seen. Anime that do draw the guns so realistic deserves to be on the same respect level as we respect the armorers for the movies and shows. Anime is a real work of art. These flash animations are just attempts at art and failing, only providing us with cheap and a lot of time free entertainment.