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Hey, nice screenshots and a good article, but I'd like to note that the rifles used by the main character Martti Hakala (Taneli Mäkelä), his brother Paavo (Konsta Mäkelä) and also at least in one scene by 2nd lt Jussi Kantola (Vesa Vierikko) are actually M/28's (or possibly the upgraded version, M/28-30), and not M/39's. The M/28 was a variant of the Mosin-Nagant designed by the White Guard. Many White Guard memebers brought their self-acquired M/28's (among other things like uniforms) with them when the Finnish army was mobilized in the fall of 1939, and this is portrayed also in the movie. Only a handful of M/39's had been made when the Winter War began, and any further production was halted in favor of manufacturing parts for older Mosin-Nagant rifles. The most common Mosin-Nagant in the hands of Finnish soldiers in Winter War was the old M/91, which I believe is also portrayed in this movie. | Hey, nice screenshots and a good article, but I'd like to note that the rifles used by the main character Martti Hakala (Taneli Mäkelä), his brother Paavo (Konsta Mäkelä) and also at least in one scene by 2nd lt Jussi Kantola (Vesa Vierikko) are actually M/28's (or possibly the upgraded version, M/28-30), and not M/39's. The M/28 was a variant of the Mosin-Nagant designed by the White Guard. Many White Guard memebers brought their self-acquired M/28's (among other things like uniforms) with them when the Finnish army was mobilized in the fall of 1939, and this is portrayed also in the movie. Only a handful of M/39's had been made when the Winter War began, and any further production was halted in favor of manufacturing parts for older Mosin-Nagant rifles. The most common Mosin-Nagant in the hands of Finnish soldiers in Winter War was the old M/91, which I believe is also portrayed in this movie. --[[User:Elbastardo1891|Elbastardo1891]] | ||
Revision as of 10:04, 13 August 2012
Husqvarna M/1907
Just a trivia..That particular gun was very long-lasting. My father did his military service as a NCO in the early 70's and he carried one of them. Either the Swedish Army was cheap or the gun was effective enough to last that long :) Dudster32 10:40, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
- One of the benefits of being a neutral country I guess. Stuff doesn't wear out as quickly. --Funkychinaman 11:00, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
- About 90,000 were produced in Sweden. In 1940 M/1907 was officially replaced by Lahti L35 as a service pistol but in 1980s Lahti were withdrawn from service and M/07 brought back for a decade - the last appearance of this honored, though unappreciated pistol. Greg-Z 11:07, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
- True I guess :) Though the M1911 pistol was used in the US Army until the 80's I think :) Dudster32 11:18, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
- By the way, speaking of the M/07 being replaced in Sweden. That too would explain why Finland got a few M/07's. Sweden probably didnt sell Finland the latest stuff but kept that for herself in case of war which I understand. :) Dudster32 11:19, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
Tokarev TT-33 Pistol
After closer inspection (especially a scene I had forgotten about) I'm now sure the pistol that the actor is carrying actually a Tokarev TT-33 rather than my previously suggested FN Browning 1903 / Husqvarna. I saw a backside view of the gun and noticed there was a hammer and a large rear-sight, both of which aren't really a feature of the 1903. I was probably fooled by the fact that the 1903 and the Tokarev look almost identical at a distance. Dudster32 12:23, 10 August 2012 (CDT)
- Wow. I just noticed those two guns look insanely alike. Jeddostotle7 12:51, 10 August 2012 (CDT)
- Fooled me as well. Luckily I took an extra view of the Winter War DVD and caught the fact that the movie-gun had a hammer unlike the original gun. Dudster32 13:07, 11 August 2012 (CDT)
Article is now (almost) complete
I took the liberty of removing the "incomplete" tag as the article is now 99% finished. I need to find a good pair of Russian Mosin-nagant rifle screenshots from the movie to put up which I'll do in a few days. By the way, are hand-grenades a requirement entry for an article? I've left it alone so far but I could probably add two entries. Dudster32 13:11, 11 August 2012 (CDT)
- If the grenades are distinguishable, then why not? --Funkychinaman 14:05, 11 August 2012 (CDT)
M/28, not M/39
Hey, nice screenshots and a good article, but I'd like to note that the rifles used by the main character Martti Hakala (Taneli Mäkelä), his brother Paavo (Konsta Mäkelä) and also at least in one scene by 2nd lt Jussi Kantola (Vesa Vierikko) are actually M/28's (or possibly the upgraded version, M/28-30), and not M/39's. The M/28 was a variant of the Mosin-Nagant designed by the White Guard. Many White Guard memebers brought their self-acquired M/28's (among other things like uniforms) with them when the Finnish army was mobilized in the fall of 1939, and this is portrayed also in the movie. Only a handful of M/39's had been made when the Winter War began, and any further production was halted in favor of manufacturing parts for older Mosin-Nagant rifles. The most common Mosin-Nagant in the hands of Finnish soldiers in Winter War was the old M/91, which I believe is also portrayed in this movie. --Elbastardo1891