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Guys, we're missing the point. It doesn't matter what guns are better choices than a PPK. Most guns out there are. Bond may be a former SBS or SAS or whatever, but he NEEDS to carry a Walther. For 50 years, he has carried three different guns, all Walther. I am in huge favor of him carrying both a P99 and a PPK depending on the situation, although I would probably get over it if he replaced the PPK with a PPS. I think a lot of people want to see Bond carry guns that THEY like, but don't really fit Bond's persona. All the guns suggested are combat sidearms, while Bond only needs something to serve for a CCW. If he needs more firepower, there is the P99.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:44, 5 February 2012 (CST) | Guys, we're missing the point. It doesn't matter what guns are better choices than a PPK. Most guns out there are. Bond may be a former SBS or SAS or whatever, but he NEEDS to carry a Walther. For 50 years, he has carried three different guns, all Walther. I am in huge favor of him carrying both a P99 and a PPK depending on the situation, although I would probably get over it if he replaced the PPK with a PPS. I think a lot of people want to see Bond carry guns that THEY like, but don't really fit Bond's persona. All the guns suggested are combat sidearms, while Bond only needs something to serve for a CCW. If he needs more firepower, there is the P99.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:44, 5 February 2012 (CST) | ||
I totally agree with JazzBlackBelt. The P99 is the best for Bond and the PPK makes for a great backup gun.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 22:25, 5 February 2012 (CST) | |||
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Bond's main gun
I know we can see that Bond has chosen the faithful PPK as his sidearm, but I would love too see a return of the P99. It is the use of it in Bond films that made it a preferred personal sidearm of choice Fixer
I want to see other Walter guns. There's been quite a few new ones since the last movie that came out. I'd love to see the PPQ in action Excalibur01 13:34, 2 February 2012 (CST)
I'd rather him use a SIG Sauer P226 as a bigger pistol like he did in QoS. --cool-breeze 13:58, 2 February 2012 (CST)
- Nah, I think he needs a more unique pistol, something to mark that only Bond would use. Excalibur01 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)
same. maybe the SIG or he pulls a Collateral with the Heckler & Koch USP--simmons 8492
Is anyone else puzzled by how old and haggard Daniel Craig looks in that picture? --Funkychinaman 15:41, 2 February 2012 (CST)
I still have never liked the new Bond. All the Bonds before Craig were the classic fictional "spy" with all the charms and awesomeness that all women want him and men want to be him. I know REAL spies don't usually act like the classic Bond fashion with super gadgets and all but that's why we love him, not for the realism but for the fantasy it really is. Excalibur01 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)
Daniel Craig does look older in this picture. I would rather see the new PPS as his sidearm because it's simply an evolution thing. From PPK to P5 to P99, Bond has usually always used a Walther. To have him go back to the PPK, while is nice to see, is not something that make sense this day in age.
- Actually in the Jeffrey Deaver Bond novel "Carte Blanche" Bond does use the Walther PPS Charon68 17:35, 2 February 2012 (CST)
Daniel Craig has not aged well in my opinion. In Layer Cake when he was early thirties, he looked quite young. When I saw the promo picture for Skyfall, I couldn't believe it was him for a second. I would have liked Bond to sport a P22 or PK380 in Skyfall, but as is life :( Fixer
Charon68, that is what I was referring to the book. --Mattattack07 17:43, 2 February 2012 (CST)
If bond is former SAS soldier, as suggested in Casino Royale, then he would have used a PPK so is a realistic choice. --commando552 18:04, 2 February 2012 (CST)
Personally though I had thought the PPK was withdrawn from service after the attempted kidnapping of Princess Margaret in 1974. As cool as the thing looks the cartridge is woefully underpowered and would barely make a scratch with modern body armor. Charon68 18:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)
- That incident was with the police Royalty Protection branch, and at that point the PPK was carried as a primary weapon. It wasn't a power issue, the gun jammed when the protection officer tried to return fire, and was immediately and totally withdrawn by the police due to this freak occurrence. It is still used (or was still used until relatively recently) by the SAS as an ankle gun during close protection work or for undercover work (such as in Northern Ireland), and I think there is also a hidden pocket specifically for the PPK in the SAS CRW coveralls. Main pistols used by SAS are the P226 and P228. Personally I would like to see bond with a P228, or its successor the P229 SAS. --commando552 18:30, 2 February 2012 (CST)
- On the Casino Royale website it says that Bond is former SBS. --cool-breeze 18:59, 2 February 2012 (CST)
- Personally I always thought a worth successor to the PPK would have been the HK P7. Charon68 20:19, 2 February 2012 (CST)
- Bond being ex-UKSF has been canon since at least Tomorrow Never Dies; Bond can be seen wearing a pair of UKSF Parachute wings on the sleeve of his No.1C uniform, as in This shot. Plus he uses a P7 in at least one of the novels. The Wierd It 13:34, 3 February 2012 (CST)
- On the Casino Royale website it says that Bond is former SBS. --cool-breeze 18:59, 2 February 2012 (CST)
I think we're torn on the ideal of a the Bond gun as being something small and still powerful to what is more practical. In a real sense, Bond should always be carrying full size guns or larger guns because of the situation. Why a small gun when his outfit could offer concealment on larger frame weapons and with modern day suppressors, you can't say a small gun suppresses better. Excalibur01 21:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)
In the novels written by Raymond Benson, Bond would carry a PPK if he needed concealment with a suppressor and he would keep a P99 in his cars or when he was in a tactical situation where he needed more firepower. That was something that was used in the game Bloodstone and would be a nice medium. --Mattattack07 22:07, 2 February 2012 (CST)
Bond is a Naval Commmander, and personally I would like him to use a P228, as it is compact enough for undercover work and has a large enough magazine (13 rounds in 9mm) to see him through a gunfight --Taurus96 12:54, 5 February 2012 (CST).
The p228 is not bond 007 style. The thing is that the PPK is the classic bond gun, but with a magazine size of at max 8 rounds, it is not very good choice. He could use one of two pistols: the P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander) or a usp compact in 9 mil. The usp compact is good for concealment and it offers a larger magazine (13 rounds) compared to the ppk's 8.--Coltmth 15:28, 5 February 2012 (CST)
- "he P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander)" Wrong Navy, plus the 226 Navy is (I believe) only chambered in 9mm NATO. The Wierd It 16:21, 5 February 2012 (CST)
If anything the PPK is a good backup gun nothing else. I personally wouldn't even consider using a PPK as my primary even if I was using a compact gun just because their is simply better compact guns with better stopping power then the PPK.
Guys, we're missing the point. It doesn't matter what guns are better choices than a PPK. Most guns out there are. Bond may be a former SBS or SAS or whatever, but he NEEDS to carry a Walther. For 50 years, he has carried three different guns, all Walther. I am in huge favor of him carrying both a P99 and a PPK depending on the situation, although I would probably get over it if he replaced the PPK with a PPS. I think a lot of people want to see Bond carry guns that THEY like, but don't really fit Bond's persona. All the guns suggested are combat sidearms, while Bond only needs something to serve for a CCW. If he needs more firepower, there is the P99.----JazzBlackBelt-- 21:44, 5 February 2012 (CST)
I totally agree with JazzBlackBelt. The P99 is the best for Bond and the PPK makes for a great backup gun.--Coltmth 22:25, 5 February 2012 (CST)