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:It's an AKMS, but yeah, it has a ported gas tube and smooth front hand guard (which are features found on the AKS-47). I would say it's an AKMS with AKS-47 parts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:31, 31 March 2011 (CDT) | :It's an AKMS, but yeah, it has a ported gas tube and smooth front hand guard (which are features found on the AKS-47). I would say it's an AKMS with AKS-47 parts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:31, 31 March 2011 (CDT) | ||
::We recently discovered a Hungarian AKM that has the AK47/Type 56 style gas tube. It's a FEG variant that was only exported to Europe and not the U.S> during the 1980s which explains why British armorers have it and American ones do not. Check out ([http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/AK-47#FEG NGM-81]). Note that nearly everyone removed the ugly factory PKM flash hider and replaced it with something more conventional. The underfolder version of this gun was called the NGV-81. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:30, 1 September 2011 (CDT) | |||
I know this might be slightly off-topic, but the guy in that shot looks like he's wearing German flecktarn camo used by the Bundeswehr. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:35, 10 June 2011 (CDT) | I know this might be slightly off-topic, but the guy in that shot looks like he's wearing German flecktarn camo used by the Bundeswehr. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:35, 10 June 2011 (CDT) | ||
Revision as of 05:30, 1 September 2011
Image gallery - OTHER variants of the AK-47
Since members get confused by some of the other (usually customized) variants made for movies, we should store the images here, so that all members can easily find a variant that they've seen in a movie or tv show. Note: These do NOT belong on the main AK-47 page because they are customized guns for films and not indicative of any 'production gun'. They are stored here for viewing and usage on movie pages that require them.
The Romanian WASR-3
Should we have a section for the WASR-3?
- Yeah, I suppose we could do that, since they've appeared in at least three movies that we know of (Casino Royale, Sahara, and now Hotel Rwanda). I would also like to do a section for the Romanian AIM series, which appears in Street Kings and 44 Minutes: The North Hollywood Shoot-out.
- Well thanks to LUMPY, we now know the make and model of the mystery AKs in Casino Royale and Sahara (2005). It's an obscure FEG Hungarian AK variant that was exported to Europe during the 1980s, which is why Sasha Robey has them and We don't. MoviePropMaster2008 00:26, 1 September 2011 (CDT)
Get A Load of This Beast!
Gentlemen, I present to you, Franken-AK!
- I hate Franken-guns.-Oliveira 16:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ugly. Spartan198 18:52, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
- Looks like someone took the Type 84S from Hollow Point and added some wierd-looking muzzle brake and bleached the furniture. Orca1 9904 05:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ugly. Spartan198 18:52, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
AKMSU
The AKMSU SMG has been produced by the USSR from 1975 to 1979 ans distributed to special forces and paratroopers, but they were in many cases too hard to handle to be used effectively, so many were scrapped. In 1979 they were replaced by the AKS74U and the remaining guns were shipped to allied countries like Iraq. Very hard to find, hollywood armories usually carry foreign copys (From Zastava) or mock-ups made with parts of AKS74Us. Standard AKMSU has a forward grip and under-folding stock.
Info source please? As far as i know AKMSU was never mass-produced by USSR. It was abandoned because of obvious problems -- too short barrel that resulted in unsatisfactory bullet ballistics and quick overheating.
- The comment above stretched the page quite a bit to the right. I edited to fix that. Spartan198 19:35, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
AKMSU 7.62 never produced in the USSR. It is not in any Soviet or Russian book about the Kalashnikov weapons. This weapon is clearly a foreign design Slow Rider 09:22, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
It was a project for special forces, tankers and that sort of thing. It was cancelled I believe, because the authorities in question felt that the shortened barrel would degrade ballistic performance, the shortened gas system would cause heating issues and the light weight would make the recoil uncontrollable. Odd given that they approved the AKSU-74 later, but all points aside, there were Russian 7.62x39mm assault carbines back then. It just never went into production.
East German AKs
Should we have a section for the Mpi-KMS or any East German AK variants because I saw them in Hotel Rwanda and The Hurt Locker, I have no more info because I am new to this site
- Yes, but be sure they really are NVA (East German) AKs. MoviePropMaster2008 02:37, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Zastava M70AB2
I got the picture of the Zastava M70AB2 with standard black pistol grip, should I post it on the main page or keep it here?
I went ahead and added it, and kept the "Mitchell Arms" version on there as well, since it shows a version that'd likely appear in American productions featuring the weapon. Orca1 9904 06:32, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Vltor Modstock?
Oh jesus christ. What they have done to that AK ?
It looks more like a typical M4 stock to me. Spartan198 21:29, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
- So what? Vltor Modstock sounds cooler.
- I don't care what "sounds cooler". It's a regular M4 stock, not a Vltor Modstock. Spartan198 21:35, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Whatever you want to call it the thing looks revolting. Anyone who tries to "tacticool" an AK should be shot in the face by a true AK. --cool-breeze 22:20, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- Homicidal much? Spartan198 23:22, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
AK-101, AK-102, AK-103 etc.
Shouldn't all "black AKs" be in the AK-74 page? They are just AK-74M in different calibres, and they have AK-74M style muzzle brake and plastic side-folding buttstock.
Draco Pistol
Should we make a section for the Romanian Draco Pistol on the AK-47 page or does it get its own article? Please tell me.
- Unless it has been seen in a film then it does not get a mention. If it is a 7.62X39mm AK pistol then yes it goes on this page. Rockwolf66 19:22, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Hungarian AK
Isn't the Hungarian FEG AK-63 considered a gun that is not custom? It was made in Hungary, but the company that made it has gone bankrupt and is defunct now. Shouldn't the AK-63 get it's own section?
The Cold War
Although weapons from Warsaw pact nations were banned from importation to the US during the Cold War. Did any criminals tried smuggling them into the US?
Villan weapon
While I understand the reasons for doing so, I still belive these weapons get a bad deal from Hollywood which always casts them as the "Bad Guy's Gun" even though many nations and rebel groups supported by the U.S. have also used Kalashnikovs.
I think it's because in the real world AKs are the most obtainable assault rifle. It stands to reason that most villains in films would have an AK of some sort. --cool-breeze 13:14, 17 June 2011 (CDT)
AK 46, AK 47, AK
Actualy correct name of the Avtomat Kalashnikova is AK (without 47). AK 46 and AK 47 was esperemental models and serial model is "Avtomat Kalashnikova model of 1947 year "AK". You also can see it on original NSD (I had photo but now can't find). Also model called AK now using nowhere, except Africa maybe. This model was quickly changed by AKM, what known in USA as AK 47 7.62х39mm. Only models after AK 74 have numbers in their names. P.S. Sorry for my terrible english, I whould explain better on esperanto or russian.
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater's AMD-65s
You forgot to make a video game entree for Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater in the AMD-65 section, the Ocelot Unit uses AMD-65/63 in the game.
AK-101 and AK-103
Shouldn't they be moved to AK-74 article? They are AK-74M chambered for different rounds. As far I'm moving AK-101 hence it is practically the same as AK-74 --RussianTrooper 19:42, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
- No, all 5.56x45mm AK variants are on this page along with the original 7.62x39mm. All 5.45x39mm AK variants are on the AK74 page. Do NOT change it. Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008 19:58, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Franken-AK
Stumbled across this monstrosity while surfing the other day. Only thing I can think to say is...WTF??? --Charon68 21:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
- That's not an AK, but a SAIGA (with a probably Photoshop Job) mpm
look fake
- - Well, MPM would know photoshop jobs. :b Lol, that's is the most fucked up shit I've seen in a while. Bah! StanTheMan 16:17, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- That's only slightly 'shopped. I'll post the original. -protoAuthor 21:35, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Question about AK actions
I was wondering, when firing an AK-series rifle, does the bolt lock back in the open position after the last round as with M16-series rifles, or does it come back closed again? Orca1 9904 22:24, 6 March 2011 (MSK)
- Normally, NO! But the Yugoslav models had a modified bolt that when used with a Yugoslav magazine with a modified follower, would lock the bolt open on the last round. BUT, when the magazine was removed, the bolt closed anyway. The bolt would not lock back if another magazine type was used. Sometimes a notch was cut into the selector to hold the bolt back but this only worked when the selector was set to safe after you pulled the bolt back. Wraith
What AK is this?
I'm currently doing some recapping for a big edit of the Ultimate Force page and came across this gun:
As far as I can tell, it has a stamped upper and lower receiver, folding stock, ported gas tube, slanted muzzle and open front sights. I can't find a variant on this page that fits, so is this a franken-gun, or something not listed here? Also ,the gun does actually fire blanks so it isn't an airsoft gun or replica. --commando552 12:34, 30 March 2011 (CDT)
Looks like a AKMS ([1]). You would have to look at receiver markings to get a more detailed description. Wraith
- It's an AKMS, but yeah, it has a ported gas tube and smooth front hand guard (which are features found on the AKS-47). I would say it's an AKMS with AKS-47 parts. -MT2008 18:31, 31 March 2011 (CDT)
- We recently discovered a Hungarian AKM that has the AK47/Type 56 style gas tube. It's a FEG variant that was only exported to Europe and not the U.S> during the 1980s which explains why British armorers have it and American ones do not. Check out (NGM-81). Note that nearly everyone removed the ugly factory PKM flash hider and replaced it with something more conventional. The underfolder version of this gun was called the NGV-81. :) MoviePropMaster2008 00:30, 1 September 2011 (CDT)
I know this might be slightly off-topic, but the guy in that shot looks like he's wearing German flecktarn camo used by the Bundeswehr. Orca1 9904 21:35, 10 June 2011 (CDT)
Could be an AKS47 with an AKM muzzle break (is that what they're called?) --cool-breeze 13:17, 17 June 2011 (CDT)
- If it was originally an AKS it would have a milled rather than stamped receiver. Also, the front sight is of the AKM type. I agree with MT2008 that it is an AKM with some parts changed. --commando552 16:00, 17 June 2011 (CDT)
- It certainly looks to have been cannibalised from several; by the looks of things, the gas tube is from a different gun to the lower handguard, for a start (check out how the top and bottom of the handguard aren't anywhere near the same colour or level of wear). Evil Tim 16:08, 17 June 2011 (CDT)
- Too me, it's just a AKMS with some parts (gas tube, lower handguard) from a AK-47. AK parts are mixed and matched a lot. - Mr. Wolf 17:28, 17 June 2011 (CDT)
Question about AK Part
I was wondering, what's the thin metal tube that runs underneath the barrel of AK-series rifles called? I know it's not part of the gas system, as that's on top and the weapon still seems to be able to operate without it. Any help figuring this out would be appreciated. Orca1 9904 17:58, 13 July 2011 (CDT)
- That's the cleaning rod. :D - Mr. Wolf 20:23, 13 July 2011 (CDT)