Talk:Stargate SG-1: Difference between revisions
Talk:Stargate SG-1: Difference between revisions - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games
Talk:Stargate SG-1: Difference between revisions
::Anyway, the Canadian armory which supplies weapons to ''[[Stargate: SG1]]'' also supplies to lots of other movies and TV shows filmed in British Columbia. Since that conversation we had on the SG1 page, we have noticed that the "C7" rifles that this armory stocks are actually Olympic Arms K4Bs (which look identical to the C7, except that they have the distinctive "Stowaway" pistol grip). I can pretty much guarantee you that the "C7s" in ''[[Stargate: SG1]]'' are these same guns. In which case, they definitely didn't come from the Canadian armed forces. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::Anyway, the Canadian armory which supplies weapons to ''[[Stargate: SG1]]'' also supplies to lots of other movies and TV shows filmed in British Columbia. Since that conversation we had on the SG1 page, we have noticed that the "C7" rifles that this armory stocks are actually Olympic Arms K4Bs (which look identical to the C7, except that they have the distinctive "Stowaway" pistol grip). I can pretty much guarantee you that the "C7s" in ''[[Stargate: SG1]]'' are these same guns. In which case, they definitely didn't come from the Canadian armed forces. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
== Kalashnikov Section ==
=== Norinco Type 84S ===
In "Stargate: Continuum", Cameron Mitchell uses a [[Ak 47#Norinco Type 84S|Norinco Type 84]].
[[Image:NorincoType84SRifle.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Norinco Type 84S - 5.56x45mm ]]
[[Image:SGAK3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|In the Straight to DVD movie "Stargate: Continuum", Cameron Mitchell commandeers an AK from a Russian guard at the Russian Stargate. The weapon he holds (seen here in a production still) is an underfolder Type 84S. The Foreward wooden grips have been replaced with a darker wood, but the rest is the gun is obviously a Type 84, including two .223 Rem Caliber magazines taped together - 5.56mm]]
[[Image:SGAK7.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Cameron Mitchell holds a [[Ak 47#Norinco Type 84S|Norinco Type 84S]] underfolder with dark tinted wood in "Stargate:Continuum"]]
=== Zastava M85 ===
Among the weapons used by the Russian SG team in "The Tomb" is a [[Ak 47#Zastava M85|Zastava M85]].
[[Image:SGAK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lieutenant Tolinev ([[Jennifer Halley]]) uses the flashlight taped to her [[Ak 47#Zastava M85|Zastava M85]] to scan the interior of the tomb.]]
[[Image:SGAK5.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Lieutenant Tolinev continues scanning for any threats with her Zastava.]]
[[Image:SGAK2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Colonel Zukhov ([[Earl Pastko]]) with his [[Ak 47#Zastava M85|Zastava M85]] as he discovers the sarcophagus.]]
=== Zastava M70 ===
The weapons used by the Honduran Rebels in "Evolution" Part 1 and 2 are versions of the [[Ak 47#Zastava M70|Zastava M70]]. Government soldiers and zealots in "Icon" can also be seen wielding them.
[[Image:Zastava M70B1.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Zastava M70B1 fixed stock rifle,with standard black plastic pistol grip - 7.62x39mm ]]
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[[Image:SGAK4.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A Honduran rebel holds a Yugoslavian Crvena Zastava M70B1 (7.62x39mm) in "Evolution" Part 2. To the right, Rafael ([[Frank Roman]]) wields a Zastava M70-AB2 (7.62x39mm).]]
[[Image:SGAK6.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Chalo ([[Victor Favrin]]) wields a Zastava M70B1(7.62x39mm) in "Evolution" Part 1.]]
Everyone okaj with that? --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 12:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
== Missing Guns ==
== Missing Guns ==
Revision as of 07:59, 31 July 2010
season 7 ep 1 there a solder with a Barrett M82A1 sniper rifle .50 BMG
It's harder to find the scenes with guns because some of these guns are only seen once or in a couple episodes. One needs to really pay attention. The guns only seen once are the hardest to find in the haystack of 10 seasons
This will be another great project because I know where to find pictures of Stargate SG1 and Atlantis, now which episode has a specfic gun will be the hard part.
The dressed up Dressed up Beretta M92F is one of the "Timecop" pistols, which were made from Taurus PT92s.
We've always wondered how much ammo does the guys have? We rarely see any of them reloading at all, and we get this were they were all forced to draw pistols. The only few times we see all of them holding pistols.
one of the bounty hunters used one of Hannibal King's "Camera/Disc" guns
If anyone was wondering about my change that I immediately 'undid' myself, I posted a pic and then deleted it because (stupid me) I put the wrong sight mount on the pistol and only realized it when I edited the page. I will repost the SG1 pistol shot when I get the correct sight mount. MoviePropMaster2008 20:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Stinger & AT4 appearance
I think Stinger missiles made another appearance in the last episode of Season 6 "Full Circle" when Teal'c and other kids on Abydos use them and AT4s to defend against Anubis' forces. One of the Stingers missed the glider, while Teal'c randomly fired another one and shot down another glider.
AT4 made the first appearance in Season 3 episode "Forever in a Day" when Carter picked up a AT4 from a fallen Marine and used it to destroy a staff cannon position, which is a correct application of AT4. It didn't show up again until Season 6 when people just start using it as an anti-aircraft weapons.
Interesting/Of Note: In the picture of the AT4 being fired, it is fired from the left shoulder. The AT4 is always fired from the right shoulder due to the flip up sights, safety levers, and trigger. I won't say it can't be fired from the left shoulder, I will say it would be awkward getting everything in a comfortable and functional location from what I remember. The directions on it even tell the user to use the right shoulder only.
M249s
Can we get some evidence that the M249s are mockups rather than real ones? The Wierd It 15:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Anyway, the M249s in this show, Stargate: Atlantis, and many other movies and TV shows filmed in Canada are actually Korean K3 LMGs. The easiest way to tell is because they have a different style front and rear sight, but besides that, they look a lot like the SPW variant of the FN Minimi. One of our other admins, who is an armorer and gunsmith in the business, has confirmed that this was done because there was a time when armorers had a lot of difficulty acquiring real M249s. We're hoping to get pictures of the K3s (better ones than what we have now) soon so that we can illustrate the difference a bit more clearly. -MT2008
does anyone think
Does anyone think we should add the energy weapons such as staff weapons and zat guns? I know they are not real firearms but they do play a large part in the show and they are cool.
They might be cool, but they are not real weapons. I don't want to put the time to do such a thing. This is Internet Movie FIrearms Database, not alien and fantasy weapons database Excalibur01 15:49, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I know I was just thinking that they are a very importiant part of the show. Just look at how many times zat guns have saved them. haha
there are article on fictional guns...there should a Internet Movie weapon Database covering all weapons in movies. Rex095
I guess it shouldn't be too bad, but if you are going to post crappy low res shots, forget it Excalibur01 04:40, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Luger?
Can anyone ID the handgun used by Teal'c to threaten Netan in Season 9, Episode 20, Camelot? I know this a bit of a long shot because the weapon in question is only seen for a few seconds and from crappy angles. I think it might be a Luger P08. Pravda616
--Armyguy277 20:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)== not a M4 ==
this pick really dosent look like a M4 carbine in lookis more like a Diemaco C8 carbine --Armyguy277 20:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Because it has an Elcan? Some of our Canadian armorer friends have told us that Diemaco/Colt Canada does not sell its weapons to film armorers, so it is pretty much impossible to see any C7 or C8 rifles in film/TV. We have mistakenly referred to some M16/CAR1-5 rifles as Diemaco weapons in the past, but this is a mistake that needs to be corrected. -MT2008 15:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
There really isn't much distinct differences between the 2 carbines at a glance. You see so many ELCAN sights is because the show was made in Canada, Excalibur01
That is an M4, it has a stepped barrel. The C8 has an M16A1 style barrel without the M203 step. The Wierd It 17:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
ok thanks for clearing that up --Armyguy277 20:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
The "Carter Special"
The page says that this gun is a cut-down Armalite M15A4. However, that lower receiver is quite clearly Olympic Arms - you can tell by the white writing on the right side of the magazine well, plus I watched the episode, and it's possible to see the OA crest on the left side, too. I would guess that this gun is probably a modified K23B "stubby" with the front sight removed, a free-floating hand guard installed, and the thumbhole stock added. -MT2008 15:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Well I posted the image, but I don't remember calling it an Armalite. Let's change it to an OA. Excalibur01
It's a K23B, not an OA93. But I will correct it myself... -MT2008 02:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
The M16A2s/C7s
(moved from the page)
These are all Colt Model 715s, which are equivalent to the Diemaco C7, not M16A2s. If you look closely, you can see they all have the A1-style rear sight (adjustable for windage but NOT elevation, unlike the A2-style rear sight).
I agree. That's what we get for filming a show in Canada.... :)
Al Vrkljan told me on the The Incredible Hulk (2008) page that Canadian armorers can't acquire Colt Canada rifles, either, because they only sell to military/LE. But those guns do look very C7-ish to me...
well tennachly they don`t have to own them ,lots of militarys have leanded weapons to tv and movie armourers. but in this case they are not. --Armyguy277 23:55, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
I can't imagine there's any military (outside of the poorest Third World countries) that would ever lend its weapons to film armorers. Motion picture blanks are very different from military blanks (they're loaded with far more powder, so they'll produce a bigger flash on camera), so you can't just loan an M16 to a film's property master, stick on a military BFA, and expect it to fire full-flash blanks. Plus there are legal issues involved, I'm sure.
Anyway, the Canadian armory which supplies weapons to Stargate: SG1 also supplies to lots of other movies and TV shows filmed in British Columbia. Since that conversation we had on the SG1 page, we have noticed that the "C7" rifles that this armory stocks are actually Olympic Arms K4Bs (which look identical to the C7, except that they have the distinctive "Stowaway" pistol grip). I can pretty much guarantee you that the "C7s" in Stargate: SG1 are these same guns. In which case, they definitely didn't come from the Canadian armed forces. -MT2008 02:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Missing Guns
Does someone want to check out season 1, episode 18, Tin Man? I saw an Uzi and what looked like a Dragunov sniper rifle. Pravda616
Well no, that's from season 6, episode 16. But good point, that also looks like a Dragunov. Pravda616
Are you sure it´s Tin Man? The only weapons visible in that episode are the standard MP5´s if I remember correctly . --Milkovich 08:19, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Yeah sorry about that, SG1 has so many episodes that I got confused. I meant season 2, episode 4, Gamekeeper. I'm sure there was an Uzi and a Dragunov being used by the East Germans in O'Neill's flashback. There was also a rifle being used by O'Neill's team for counter-sniping that didn't recognize. Pravda616
Added the Dragunov. I couldn't spot the UZI, though. --Milkovich 10:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
