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"Jin-Roh" is a movie that could be classified as "psychological/political thriller". | "Jin-Roh" is a movie that could be classified as "psychological/political thriller". | ||
In an alternative history where WWII has been won by the Germans. Movie action takes place 10 years after the end of war, in Tokyo. Post-war Japan suffers a lot if internal problems due to politics. Anti-governement parties rioted, causing them to be outlawed. To avoid bringing Army into the city to handle riots, governement created Capital Police (CAPO). Elite unit were Panzer Units, heavily armoured, using the best weapons. | In an alternative history where WWII has been won by the Germans. Movie action takes place 10 years after the end of war, in Tokyo. Post-war Japan suffers a lot if internal problems due to politics. Anti-governement parties rioted, causing them to be outlawed. To avoid bringing Army into the city to handle riots, governement created Capital Police (CAPO). Elite unit were Panzer Units, heavily armoured, using the best weapons. | ||
The movie shows conflict between three main groups: Police, Panzer Unit and "Sect" - coalition of outlawed anti-governement parties. | The movie shows conflict between three main groups: Police, Panzer Unit and "Sect" - coalition of outlawed anti-governement parties. | ||
Panzer Units have the best automatic weaponry available and are practically invincible, although existence of the Unit itself is questioned. | Panzer Units have the best automatic weaponry available and are practically invincible, although existence of the Unit itself is questioned. | ||
"Sect" works like partisans, using partisan weapons and methods of attack, as if in occupied country. | "Sect" works like partisans, using partisan weapons and methods of attack, as if in occupied country. | ||
Police is Police. | Police is Police. | ||
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PPSh is _the_ Russian submachine gun of WWII. Whenever you see it's characteristic drum magazine, you know the perso holding it is either Russian soldier, or a partisan. Interesting thing is that Germans captures PPSh during WWII and even converted them to 9mm by changing barrel and magazine well. It was named MP41(r), "r" standing for "Russian". That weapon was not really used though because most German soldiers opened fire at anyony who had this characteristic drum-mag SMG. | PPSh is _the_ Russian submachine gun of WWII. Whenever you see it's characteristic drum magazine, you know the perso holding it is either Russian soldier, or a partisan. Interesting thing is that Germans captures PPSh during WWII and even converted them to 9mm by changing barrel and magazine well. It was named MP41(r), "r" standing for "Russian". That weapon was not really used though because most German soldiers opened fire at anyony who had this characteristic drum-mag SMG. | ||
PPSh-41 was used by "Sect", building their partisan, perhaps even Communist image (as opposed to right-wing governement). You can see it clearly in the initial scenes, where "Sect" members flee in the underground after carrying out bomb attack at Police during riots. | PPSh-41 was used by "Sect", building their partisan, perhaps even Communist image (as opposed to right-wing governement). You can see it clearly in the initial scenes, where "Sect" members flee in the underground after carrying out bomb attack at Police during riots. | ||
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STEN is a universal partisan weapon. During WWII it were produced in millions, both in English factories and by partisans in Germany-occupied countries. It were easy and cheap to manufacture and to introduce variations. STENs were used from France to Poland and a figure with STEN says simply "I'm a partisan!" | STEN is a universal partisan weapon. During WWII it were produced in millions, both in English factories and by partisans in Germany-occupied countries. It were easy and cheap to manufacture and to introduce variations. STENs were used from France to Poland and a figure with STEN says simply "I'm a partisan!" | ||
STEN was used by "Sect" in the movie. You can see it in the initial scenes, where the leader of a small "Sect" group has a STEN. | STEN was used by "Sect" in the movie. You can see it in the initial scenes, where the leader of a small "Sect" group has a STEN. | ||
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MP18 was the first and revolutionary German submachine gun. It was developed in 1918 and used in the last moments of WWI. Many of MP18 were sold after the war to Japan. MP18 was also manufactured in Switzerland in 1920's for export to Japan, which would explain it's presence in the movie. Later this weapon evolved into MP28 model II, and even later was replaced by MP38 and MP40 as the standard Army SMGs. | MP18 was the first and revolutionary German submachine gun. It was developed in 1918 and used in the last moments of WWI. Many of MP18 were sold after the war to Japan. MP18 was also manufactured in Switzerland in 1920's for export to Japan, which would explain it's presence in the movie. Later this weapon evolved into MP28 model II, and even later was replaced by MP38 and MP40 as the standard Army SMGs. | ||
MP18 was used by "Sect". It's interesting to see it here, as the weapon was quite expensive to make. It is likely that "Sect" obtained them from a fallen soldier/policemen. Model seen in "Jin Roh" is MP18/I - notice an angled magazine well (this is not magazine!) that was used for snail-drum magazines, same as for Artillery Luger. Later (/II) this was changed to normal stick magazines. | MP18 was used by "Sect". It's interesting to see it here, as the weapon was quite expensive to make. It is likely that "Sect" obtained them from a fallen soldier/policemen. Model seen in "Jin Roh" is MP18/I - notice an angled magazine well (this is not magazine!) that was used for snail-drum magazines, same as for Artillery Luger. Later (/II) this was changed to normal stick magazines. | ||
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== MP41 == | == MP41 == | ||
Germany did not want to export MP40, so they asked Schmeisser to develop a new export version of SMG. He has used MP28/II, MP36/III and MP40 as the basis to build MP41. It looked "classic" with wooden stock, but sported modern technology inside. | Germany did not want to export MP40, so they asked Schmeisser to develop a new export version of SMG. He has used MP28/II, MP36/III and MP40 as the basis to build MP41. It looked "classic" with wooden stock, but sported modern technology inside. Wehrmacht required large number of weapons though, and MP41 went to them instead of original buyers. Production stopped in 1942 because it was deemed too expensive compared to MP40. | ||
This weapon is used by Police, as seen in closing scenes when policemen search for Fuse in the underground. | |||
This weapon is used by Police, as seen in closing scenes when policemen search for Fuse in the underground. In real world MP41 was used by German Police until the end of war, which explains why it is used in "Jin Roh" in similar application. | |||
[[Image:jinroh118924-mp41.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Policemen chasing Fuse]] | [[Image:jinroh118924-mp41.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Policemen chasing Fuse]] | ||
== Walther P38 == | |||
P-38 was intended as replacement for more expensive Luger P08 in German Army. It was a revolutionary pistol, the best at the time. After WWII it was used until 1990's in slightly modified version. | |||
In the movie it is seen used by Police officer. | |||
[[Image:jinroh118306-p38.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Officer running with Walther P-38]] | [[Image:jinroh118306-p38.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Officer running with Walther P-38]] | ||
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== Walther PPK (or other variant) == | == Walther PPK (or other variant) == | ||
Precursor of P-38, small, conceable weapon. | |||
In the movie a Walther belonging to Fuse can be seen hidden in the book. It is unclear if PPK is a standard Panzer weapon (probably not, as they have Mausers C96) or his private gun. | |||
[[Image:jinroh087941-ppk.jpg|400px|thumb|none|This one belongs to Fuse, it is hidden in a book]] | [[Image:jinroh087941-ppk.jpg|400px|thumb|none|This one belongs to Fuse, it is hidden in a book]] | ||
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== Walther LeuP 42 (flare pistol) == | == Walther LeuP 42 (flare pistol) == | ||
LeuP 42 | LeuP 42 or LP-42 is 1.3kg Leuchtpistole ("glow pistol"), flare gun made by the Walther starting in 1928. It was the standard flare and signal device of German Army. The original design was replaced by lighter metal construction, which reduced weight, but also initiated using it for launching grenades and explosives. Movie featured some variant of LeuP 42, it is not possible to verify which exactly. | ||
In "Jin-Roh" Police officer shoots Fuse with this weapon during their final stand-off. | |||
[[Image:jinroh125875-flare.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Last-chance weapon is a flare gun]] | [[Image:jinroh125875-flare.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Last-chance weapon is a flare gun]] | ||
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== Molotov cocktail == | == Molotov cocktail == | ||
Simple version: gasoline-filled bottle with a rag that is put on fire. When thrown, bottle breaks down, petrol forms a cloud that gets ignited from the rag, resulting in a large fireball and explosion. Originally it was developed by the Finnish to fight with invading Russians. Polish Home Army created another variant that exploded on impact, without need for a fire rag. Molotov cocktails are used universally by rebels, partisans, anti-governement groups everywhere in the world. | |||
"Sect" uses Molotov cocktails during riots. They obviously throw them at Police. | "Sect" uses Molotov cocktails during riots. They obviously throw them at Police. | ||
[[Image:jinroh06729-molotov.jpg|400px|thumb|none|"Sect" member | [[Image:jinroh06729-molotov.jpg|400px|thumb|none|"Sect" member passing a Molotov cocktail to another member]] | ||
== Tear gas riot gun == | == Tear gas riot gun == | ||
In response to rioting Police launches tear gas at the crowd. | In response to rioting Police launches tear gas at the crowd. It is not clear what weapon they use. | ||
[[Image:grab12504-tear_gas_2.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Police launching tear gas at rioting crowd]] | [[Image:grab12504-tear_gas_2.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Police launching tear gas at rioting crowd]] | ||
[[Image:jinroh12590-tear_gas_canister.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Closeup of tear gas cannister]] | [[Image:jinroh12590-tear_gas_canister.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Closeup of tear gas cannister]] | ||
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== Smoke grenade == | == Smoke grenade == | ||
Smoke (or perhaps tear gas) grenades are used by Panzer unit during their exercises. Note the white strip with a gap - same marking as used for example on Nebeltopf 39, German WWII smoke grenade. | Smoke (or perhaps tear gas) grenades are used by Panzer unit during their exercises. Note the white strip with a gap - the same marking as used for example on Nebeltopf 39, German WWII smoke grenade. | ||
[[Image:jinroh51194-tear_gas_canister.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Tear gas (or smoke) grenade used during Panzer unit exercise]] | [[Image:jinroh51194-tear_gas_canister.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Tear gas (or smoke) grenade used during Panzer unit exercise]] | ||
== Homemade bomb == | == Homemade bomb == | ||
Homemade bombs were used by "Sect" to disrupt manifestations. | Homemade bombs were used by "Sect" to disrupt manifestations. Details are not shown. | ||
[[Image:jinroh020864-handmade_bomb.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Bomb hidden in a bag that can be carried by anyone. Pulling the string activated bomb.]] | [[Image:jinroh020864-handmade_bomb.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Bomb hidden in a bag that can be carried by anyone. Pulling the string activated bomb.]] | ||
Revision as of 12:05, 22 March 2009
NB: work in progress
"Jin-Roh" is a movie that could be classified as "psychological/political thriller". In an alternative history where WWII has been won by the Germans. Movie action takes place 10 years after the end of war, in Tokyo. Post-war Japan suffers a lot if internal problems due to politics. Anti-governement parties rioted, causing them to be outlawed. To avoid bringing Army into the city to handle riots, governement created Capital Police (CAPO). Elite unit were Panzer Units, heavily armoured, using the best weapons.
The movie shows conflict between three main groups: Police, Panzer Unit and "Sect" - coalition of outlawed anti-governement parties.
Panzer Units have the best automatic weaponry available and are practically invincible, although existence of the Unit itself is questioned.
"Sect" works like partisans, using partisan weapons and methods of attack, as if in occupied country. Police is Police.
PPSh-41
PPSh is _the_ Russian submachine gun of WWII. Whenever you see it's characteristic drum magazine, you know the perso holding it is either Russian soldier, or a partisan. Interesting thing is that Germans captures PPSh during WWII and even converted them to 9mm by changing barrel and magazine well. It was named MP41(r), "r" standing for "Russian". That weapon was not really used though because most German soldiers opened fire at anyony who had this characteristic drum-mag SMG.
PPSh-41 was used by "Sect", building their partisan, perhaps even Communist image (as opposed to right-wing governement). You can see it clearly in the initial scenes, where "Sect" members flee in the underground after carrying out bomb attack at Police during riots.
Sten submachine gun
STEN is a universal partisan weapon. During WWII it were produced in millions, both in English factories and by partisans in Germany-occupied countries. It were easy and cheap to manufacture and to introduce variations. STENs were used from France to Poland and a figure with STEN says simply "I'm a partisan!"
STEN was used by "Sect" in the movie. You can see it in the initial scenes, where the leader of a small "Sect" group has a STEN.
Bergmann MP18
MP18 was the first and revolutionary German submachine gun. It was developed in 1918 and used in the last moments of WWI. Many of MP18 were sold after the war to Japan. MP18 was also manufactured in Switzerland in 1920's for export to Japan, which would explain it's presence in the movie. Later this weapon evolved into MP28 model II, and even later was replaced by MP38 and MP40 as the standard Army SMGs.
MP18 was used by "Sect". It's interesting to see it here, as the weapon was quite expensive to make. It is likely that "Sect" obtained them from a fallen soldier/policemen. Model seen in "Jin Roh" is MP18/I - notice an angled magazine well (this is not magazine!) that was used for snail-drum magazines, same as for Artillery Luger. Later (/II) this was changed to normal stick magazines.
MP40
MP40 was the standard issue submachine gun used by Germans during WWII. It was produced in mass quantities. You can see MP40 in hands of German soldiers in almost every WWII movie.
In "Jin Roh" MP40 is used by Police.
MP41
Germany did not want to export MP40, so they asked Schmeisser to develop a new export version of SMG. He has used MP28/II, MP36/III and MP40 as the basis to build MP41. It looked "classic" with wooden stock, but sported modern technology inside. Wehrmacht required large number of weapons though, and MP41 went to them instead of original buyers. Production stopped in 1942 because it was deemed too expensive compared to MP40.
This weapon is used by Police, as seen in closing scenes when policemen search for Fuse in the underground. In real world MP41 was used by German Police until the end of war, which explains why it is used in "Jin Roh" in similar application.
Walther P38
P-38 was intended as replacement for more expensive Luger P08 in German Army. It was a revolutionary pistol, the best at the time. After WWII it was used until 1990's in slightly modified version.
In the movie it is seen used by Police officer.
Mauser Kar98k
Probably used by Police, in a scene where a grenade is launched from it using special module.
Walther PPK (or other variant)
Precursor of P-38, small, conceable weapon.
In the movie a Walther belonging to Fuse can be seen hidden in the book. It is unclear if PPK is a standard Panzer weapon (probably not, as they have Mausers C96) or his private gun.
Mauser C96
Used by Panzer unit in normal and karbine (with stock) versions.
Sturmgewehr 44
Apart from the normal weapon this movie shows also a training version of StG44 which shoots rubber bullets. It is used by Panzer unit during their training.
FG42 type I
MG42
Walther LeuP 42 (flare pistol)
LeuP 42 or LP-42 is 1.3kg Leuchtpistole ("glow pistol"), flare gun made by the Walther starting in 1928. It was the standard flare and signal device of German Army. The original design was replaced by lighter metal construction, which reduced weight, but also initiated using it for launching grenades and explosives. Movie featured some variant of LeuP 42, it is not possible to verify which exactly.
In "Jin-Roh" Police officer shoots Fuse with this weapon during their final stand-off.
Panzerfaust 30
Molotov cocktail
Simple version: gasoline-filled bottle with a rag that is put on fire. When thrown, bottle breaks down, petrol forms a cloud that gets ignited from the rag, resulting in a large fireball and explosion. Originally it was developed by the Finnish to fight with invading Russians. Polish Home Army created another variant that exploded on impact, without need for a fire rag. Molotov cocktails are used universally by rebels, partisans, anti-governement groups everywhere in the world.
"Sect" uses Molotov cocktails during riots. They obviously throw them at Police.
Tear gas riot gun
In response to rioting Police launches tear gas at the crowd. It is not clear what weapon they use.
Smoke grenade
Smoke (or perhaps tear gas) grenades are used by Panzer unit during their exercises. Note the white strip with a gap - the same marking as used for example on Nebeltopf 39, German WWII smoke grenade.
Homemade bomb
Homemade bombs were used by "Sect" to disrupt manifestations. Details are not shown.
