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Is it possible to reload an MP5 like described in the text regarding the 2015 version? Wouldn't pulling the charging handle back, then reloading and moving it forwards again make it an open bolt weapon? Ir is it possible to reload closed bolt weapons like that? [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 18:12, 7 August 2015 (EDT) | Is it possible to reload an MP5 like described in the text regarding the 2015 version? Wouldn't pulling the charging handle back, then reloading and moving it forwards again make it an open bolt weapon? Ir is it possible to reload closed bolt weapons like that? [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 18:12, 7 August 2015 (EDT) | ||
:As described is correct. On the MP5 there is a hook at the back of the charging handle slot, which means that the bolt can be retracted and the charging handle turned upwards slightly to lock the bolt to the rear. At this point you can put in a new magazine, and then when it is in place you can "slap" the charging handle out of the slot which allows the bolt to go forwards and load the first round from the magazine. This is exactly the same in concept to any other closed bolt weapon that can have the bolt held open (either by being locked open on an empty mag or manually as is the case with the MP5). On an open bolt weapon, when you pull the charging handle back it would stay to the rear without having to engage it in a hold open slot (although a lot of open bolt guns do have a similar notch which acts as a safety of sorts), and generally the only way to get the bolt to go forward is to pull the trigger. However, when the text says "one mid-magazine where the magazines are simply swapped (which can be difficult to do on an MP5 with a full magazine and the bolt closed, hence the usual HK slap)", this isn't really true. Well, it is sort of true but only if the incorrectly try to use a magazine loaded with 31 rounds rather than the 30 rounds it is designed for. The taught method is still to lock the bolt back during a reload though, but I do not believe this is actually to do with making the magazine easier to insert (although it does eliminate a potential problem if you didn't pay attention when loading your magazines), but rather it is done to make sure there is not chance of you riding the bolt forward as instead you slap it free of the hold open notch. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:33, 7 August 2015 (EDT) | :As described is correct. On the MP5 there is a hook at the back of the charging handle slot, which means that the bolt can be retracted and the charging handle turned upwards slightly to lock the bolt to the rear. At this point you can put in a new magazine, and then when it is in place you can "slap" the charging handle out of the slot which allows the bolt to go forwards and load the first round from the magazine. This is exactly the same in concept to any other closed bolt weapon that can have the bolt held open (either by being locked open on an empty mag or manually as is the case with the MP5). On an open bolt weapon, when you pull the charging handle back it would stay to the rear without having to engage it in a hold open slot (although a lot of open bolt guns do have a similar notch which acts as a safety of sorts), and generally the only way to get the bolt to go forward is to pull the trigger. However, when the text says "one mid-magazine where the magazines are simply swapped (which can be difficult to do on an MP5 with a full magazine and the bolt closed, hence the usual HK slap)", this isn't really true. Well, it is sort of true but only if the incorrectly try to use a magazine loaded with 31 rounds rather than the 30 rounds it is designed for. The taught method is still to lock the bolt back during a reload though, but I do not believe this is actually to do with making the magazine easier to insert (although it does eliminate a potential problem if you didn't pay attention when loading your magazines), but rather it is done to make sure there is not chance of you riding the bolt forward as instead you slap it free of the hold open notch. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:33, 7 August 2015 (EDT) | ||
Thanks for the answer, I didn't know you could lock the bolt back first before reloading on closed bolt weapons. I guess that's what happens when one never has operated a real weapon. | Thanks for the answer, I didn't know you could lock the bolt back first before reloading on closed bolt weapons. I guess that's what happens when one never has operated a real weapon. [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 19:04, 7 August 2015 (EDT) | ||
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Need update
This page hasn't been updated since a long time. For example, the MP5 model has been changed a long time ago. I will try to rewrite the page soon and upload some new images.
Oops, I must have an account to upload new files, can someone upload these images?
New MP5 after firing a grenade
Another shot of new SPAS-12 model.
- Is this mod ever coming out? I remember when I was looking forward to it...five years ago! At this point, it's become the Duke Nukem Forever of mods. -MT2008 17:56, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
The mod is completed in about 80-90%, so it will come out in a few months. Maybe even during holidays.
Soon enough Excalibur01 03:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
http://forums.blackmesasource.com/showpost.php?p=241467&postcount=796 For those who are interested, here is the planned release date.
Oh beautiful. The next TWELVE MONTHS they say. I know it's hard to make a game up from scratch, but this is just taking too long and the hype is a killer Excalibur01 17:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Well, so it turns out that Black Mesa is finally being released this month (September 2012). It's also funny that I did not even remember discussing the release date on this very page until I just glanced at it now (because I made the above comment more than two years ago). -MT2008 10:26, 3 September 2012 (CDT)
- I'll see what I can do about taking some in game shots and uploading them to the page sometime today. I've been busy playing all night. Some things have changed from what's up on the page now. - EvanAzzo
Title change
I moved this to Black Mesa, since the Source part was removed long ago at the request of Valve. --Milkovich 13:00, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Weapon models changed
The retail release changed some of the weapon models. Anyone have some pics?Temp89 (talk)
- Faaaak they slowed down the RoF of the SPAS-12's double fire function. Oh and they added new sprinting animations for weapons, but apparently they forgot to do this to the crossbow lol. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 15:49, 5 June 2015 (EDT)
MP5 Reloading?
Is it possible to reload an MP5 like described in the text regarding the 2015 version? Wouldn't pulling the charging handle back, then reloading and moving it forwards again make it an open bolt weapon? Ir is it possible to reload closed bolt weapons like that? Z008MJ (talk) 18:12, 7 August 2015 (EDT)
- As described is correct. On the MP5 there is a hook at the back of the charging handle slot, which means that the bolt can be retracted and the charging handle turned upwards slightly to lock the bolt to the rear. At this point you can put in a new magazine, and then when it is in place you can "slap" the charging handle out of the slot which allows the bolt to go forwards and load the first round from the magazine. This is exactly the same in concept to any other closed bolt weapon that can have the bolt held open (either by being locked open on an empty mag or manually as is the case with the MP5). On an open bolt weapon, when you pull the charging handle back it would stay to the rear without having to engage it in a hold open slot (although a lot of open bolt guns do have a similar notch which acts as a safety of sorts), and generally the only way to get the bolt to go forward is to pull the trigger. However, when the text says "one mid-magazine where the magazines are simply swapped (which can be difficult to do on an MP5 with a full magazine and the bolt closed, hence the usual HK slap)", this isn't really true. Well, it is sort of true but only if the incorrectly try to use a magazine loaded with 31 rounds rather than the 30 rounds it is designed for. The taught method is still to lock the bolt back during a reload though, but I do not believe this is actually to do with making the magazine easier to insert (although it does eliminate a potential problem if you didn't pay attention when loading your magazines), but rather it is done to make sure there is not chance of you riding the bolt forward as instead you slap it free of the hold open notch. --commando552 (talk) 18:33, 7 August 2015 (EDT)
Thanks for the answer, I didn't know you could lock the bolt back first before reloading on closed bolt weapons. I guess that's what happens when one never has operated a real weapon. Z008MJ (talk) 19:04, 7 August 2015 (EDT)