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:: Hey John, Check out how I did on Sgt.York and let me know if I got it right.
:: Hey John, Check out how I did on Sgt.York and let me know if I got it right.
:Also what listing do you have a sample of this --M1911-- (substituting equal signs) that way I can take a look at it. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:Also what listing do you have a sample of this --M1911-- (substituting equal signs) that way I can take a look at it. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Okay I think I got it. I added to the the description on the Luger and removed the link on the titles and the excess wording in the Luger photo. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Revision as of 01:37, 4 March 2009

Re:Shoot 'Em Up Glcoks

Yes, I realised the mistake but I think the picture of the thug with the Glock is a compact 19.-GunnutHk

Wanted

Hi, i know i was just testing out how it would be like to put up an image, anyway, why didn't you delete my Browning Hi-power pic? Oh yeah, and i added screencaps to Quantum of Solace go check it out. anyway, have you noticed that Wesley's style of holding his gun changes almost everytime. and his gun handling is unique, i have never seen it on anyone before, Wanted is my fav. movie.

Quantum of Solace

Have you checked out my Quantum of Solace pics? the one whith bond aiming his PPK is just a promotional image that i didn't upload, if you could, please upload Quantum of Solace screencaps.


Dirty Harry

Just so you know, Rafa has already done most of the Dirty Harry films. They could use a re-vamp, though, as most of them are missing stuff that we usually consider essential to a good page.

1911

Interestingly enough, I talked to my uncle (who is from West Hurley, NY; dunno if you've ever been there) a few weeks before I moved to Texas, and he was telling me excitedly about how he purchased an STI Guardian 1911 last month. If I ever go back there, I might just have to shoot it. Actually, I get the impression he wouldn't let me rest until I do...

Anyway, to answer your question, I must point out that I rarely get to shoot at all, which is mostly a consequence of the fact that I was in college out-of-state for four years, and recently moved to another state to take a job. However, I've never been a huge fan of .45 ACP pistols, which I've simply never handled well. My grandfather gave me a S&W 4506 when I turned 18, and it's really a monster (I haven't shot it in about 4 years now). I've fired only one 1911 which also belonged to my uncle, a Springfield Armory if I recall. Great gun, but still not quite up my alley. Of the .45s I have shot, I would say I liked the P220 SAO best, but even then, not enough to buy. Don't get me wrong; I completely respect the 1911 and appreciate its importance to the development of the semi-auto pistol, but I don't shoot much, and I'm just not big into .45 ACP when I do, even though most American pistol shooters are. Also, I should point out that while I prefer the Taurus PT92 over the Beretta due to the 1911-style frame-mounted controls, I still like the SIG decocker best, which is why I'm currently leaning towards the P226 as a handgun purchase (which won't be anytime soon, since I'm not living in my state of residence right now).

BTW, nice job on improving the 1911 page. It's not perfect (lots of images still not aligned with the guns they're supposed to be with), but it does look a lot less sloppy than it used to. Keep working on those movie pages, too! -MT2008

Depends. If you can get a Tokarev pic, great. I do, of course, have a slight preference for MPM2008's pictures because his are always done professionally, but yours would still be great, too...if you can get it.
Don't worry about corrections. We all make mistakes. If it seems like we pick on you, it's just that you do so much work on this site that it's inevitable you'll have a lot errors, too. I mean, think of the Hard Boiled page...when you've got like 50 guns, how can you NOT get so tired that your eye slips on some of them?
It's fine, bruh...whenever you get time. It's for the site, not for me personally.
Oh, yeah, and while I appreciate the corrections on my mis-identification of Mossbergs (I suck with those), doesn't the Cruiser have a heat shield as standard? The ones in Training Day and The Departed don't have that, so does that just make them regular pistol-gripped 500s?

New stuff

Ah, great to see someone finally made a page for the Walther MP subguns. We've needed one for a while, and it's been on my to-do list, but I see you beat me to it! I hope you don't mind, but I did re-title the page so that it instead says "Walther MP series", to more accurately describe what it says. Also (this is totally nitpicky), there's no hyphen in the name (i.e. "MP-L" should just be "MPL"), so I did change that, too.

Thanks for uploading a Type 84 picture as well. MPM2008 said he'd do it for me at some point, but he couldn't find the mags for the Type 84s in his company's vault, so he wasn't going to take a picture until he could find them. Yours will do for now, tho. Also, do you think we should give it its own entry in the AK-47 page? I mean, the Type 84 is basically just a Type 56 that fires .223, so I figured it would be best to just include it under the Type 56 entry as a Type 56 variation. Though I guess that would get confusing...

I added it to the AK page in the Norinco section already. And when I found the info for the Walther MP guns, they had hyphens for the L & Ks.
Oh, I know you added the Type 84 already; I'm just question whether it should be grouped with Norinco Type 56. Anyway, didn't you get those pics from World Guns.ru? They don't use the hyphen. Which site did you get your info from?
My information is from a book, the pictures are from that site.
OK, interesting. Which book is it? It doesn't matter too much, I guess, but everything I've read has no hyphen. I have a Gun Digest Assault Weapons issue from 1986 which reviews the MPK, and that's what they call it, not "MP-K".
"Small Arms From the Civil War to the Present Day" by Martin J. Dougherty made in 2005. He lists them as the MP-L and MP-K. Like you said, it doesn't really matter much.

Your articles

Hi,

You know I really like your articles, but I must make one request: Please try to add pictures of the guns, and also make sure that when you say the gun's name, you link to its page (if you've seen the Heat page recently, you'll notice I edited the guns you added to include pictures and links). I realize it's probably a pain in the ass, especially when you've got a gazillion weapons like your articles for Hollow Point or Last Action Hero, but try to do it when you get around to it. You can always do what I do: Copy and paste the code for the images and links from other pages which use the same gun, especially if the coding is complicated (i.e. getting to a specific MP5 variant). -MT2008

First of all, no page on IMFDB can escape MT2008's obsessive-compulsive editing tendencies! Haha, no, seriously, if you look at many of the pages I've worked on, I'm always editing them from time-to-time as I realize mistakes I've made. Plus, my pages rarely get shotguns or revolvers correct (since modern military weapons and semi-auto pistols are what I know best); I tend to leave them as "unknown" for other users in the future to correct.
As far as profanity goes, I dunno, I'm not one of the admins (come to think of it, I haven't seen any of them for a LONG time now). I'd guess it's OK provided you're just quoting a character (as you do on the Heartbreak Ridge page), but not if you're using it gratuitously, especially in conversation. You'd have to ask someone in charge for the low-down on that.

Current stuff

Just an FYI: Since I see you're working so hard on your Hollow Point page, I guess now's not the time, but...I recall there being an H&K-model rifle (probably an HK91) used by one of the police snipers in The Fugitive.

As far as the grenade launcher in Hollow Point, it does look a lot like the Arwen 37 (Google Image search it and you'll see pics), but I'm not positive. I've seen it before, too...I think in another movie somewhere.


You sure? I watched it twice and saw no HK91 rifle. And I said it was a MK1 Arwen, the oldest model employed, which he stole from a police car, which makes sense for a cop in 1996 to use one. And I've finally finished the Hollow Point page.


I remember it being at the very end, after he's been cleared and Gerard is escorting him out, you see a sniper wandering around with what looks like an HK91 or an SR9 variant. But I haven't seen the movie in years.

You should get a picture of the Arwen launcher for your page. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiny shotgun you see is a Franchi PA3/215 with a forward hand grip. I could be wrong (it's hard to tell from the distance), but I've never seen a Serbu with a folding stock, and I never thought they existed.

Heat

You should replace my screenshot of Trejo's AK's front sight with yours. Mine is from a low-quality AVI rip of the movie.

Also, what's a "P220-1"? I don't think I've ever heard that term used to describe a P220 before. Are you just referring to the fact that it's an older model P220 with a stamped slide and alloy frame?

It's what someone else listed it as earlier before. I assume it is meant to label the oldr model but I too haven't heard the term, I just went along with it. I don't change something unless it looks wrong or I think it is. Leave your username so I can respond back to you.
Oh, right, I always forget to do that. Personally, I wish IMFDB would add an option to automatically sign messages on other people's walls.
From what I've been reading, "P220-1" is apparently what some magazines for the gun are marked. I also see that the picture you found on a Google image search is also labeled "P220-1". I don't think it's a factory term (or even a fan-made term) for older-model P220s. I've heard the term "P220 American" to describe the P220s that have the magazine release near the decocker (as opposed to the bottom of the grip, which characterized the early European models) because this was apparently done specifically for the American market. -MT2008
Well, it's a bit more complicated with SIG than with Glock to label things in "Generations". I have certainly heard terms like "Gen 1" and "Gen 2" to describe Glocks (in fact, I often use them in my own articles), but when it comes to SIGs, they've made a zillion little changes to the guns every couple years to refine problems that developed. Like the moves from stamped to milled slides, K-kote and stainless finishes, magazine release changes, standard frames to railed frames (which are now standard on all of the P220-series guns, so they don't use the "R" to describe them anymore), etc, etc, etc. Plus, there were mechanical changes (i.e. redesign of the trigger bar spring) and ergonomic changes (i.e. redesign of the grips). These aren't changes that were introduced in any concrete "generations"; any SIG pistol you pick up might have some of the design changes, but lack others.
So I'm not really sure how each "generation" would be described exactly. In fact, it'd be kind of weird to call the gun in your picture a "Gen 1" because that's technically not true - the very first P220 was the model with the magazine release on the bottom of the grip, which was eventually replaced by what gun rags used to call the "P220 American" (the first model to feature the regular push-button mag release, and the best description for McCauley's gun). Would that make McCauley's gun a Gen 2? I'm not really sure. -MT2008
Oh, I know Glock gens. Those are quite easy in comparison, even though there have been some internal mechanical changes to Glocks as well within generations.
All-metal SIGs are nice guns, IMO. I can definitely say I'd love to own a P226 as soon as I can get my permit application completed (which sucks because in Orange County, NC, I have to get 3 references from other people before I can apply for a pistol purchase permit at the local sheriff's dept. office). It's one of the most ergonomic pistol designs I've ever fired. However, you gotta be careful with what you buy because they've had lots of mechanical issues over the years. I also think they're kind of overpriced for what you get. But...still very nice guns.
Congrats on the new compensator for the 1911. Have fun with that! BTW, nice job on The Rock page. I've been making corrections (as usual, because, you know...that's what I do), but it's cool you got so many high-quality screenshots uploaded.

Defense Technologies

Here is a picture of what the DefTech/Federal Labs launcher looks like:

These have appeared in quite a few films, often portrayed as HE grenade launchers (RoboCop 3 is a good example). Anyway, it could be a C.A.W., but the arms of the folding stock visible in the second pic look kind of like DefTech to me. Hopefully, Al Vrkljan will start posting on this site again soon so that we can ask him!

Great Work!

Thanks for uploading the poster for the Catch a Fire page. I have also seen your pages and screenshots, and I would like to say they are great. Thanks for your contributions to the IMFDB, and keep up the good work. Alienqueen11

Response

I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures of the guns I held years ago. the handguns I held are my Uncle's, he's a retired police officer, and I'm not sure if he'll let me look at them again because you know how some people are about firearms, but I can tell you that the .22 pistol was a very small if that will help. And also, there is another page larger then Bad Boys II, and it's MoviePropMaster2008's District B13 with 37 guns. User: Alienqueen11

Thanks

Thanks for identifying the shotguns on the Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem page, I hope the brighter screenshots helped. I still can't believe how dark that movie is, I know there's a blackout, but they didn't need to make the movie that dark. And also, I want to say excellent job on Toy Soldiers. Alienqueen11

About Language

Hey, I want to say good work on Heartbreak Ridge, there are so many pages on this site that need improvement. Also, I see you're wondering about language, I'm a moderator myself, and from I see, Bunni, the person who owns the site dosen't seem to mind as long as it is used in a quote or complaint, and not for vandalism. Just don't use anything racist, but I'm sure you won't. Alienqueen11

OK, that's what I figured, too, but I wanted to be sure. I did notice that some of the quotes which appear on the Main Page have profanity (like the one from Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels), but it's an issue that's never been addressed at all.

MGS4 M1911A1

Hey, Gunmaster, I seen your comment on the MGS4 page and found a link that might help:

[1]

There you go, hope this helps. This game looks so great, it makes me wish I had a PS3. Alienqueen11

.50 Caliber 1911?

Yes, there is a .50 Caliber 1911. Guncrafter Industries Model No. 1 .50 GI. The bullet is roughly the same dimensions as the .45 ACP, just a little wider. Not the most practical gun, but it's a .50 1911 model.

Also, the Automag V is the .50 caliber version, The Automag III is chambered for .30 Carbine (I actually got to play with one of these, slide is loooooong.) Not to be snide or cocky, you know your material, just saying.

Furthermore, I commend you with your eagle eyes spotting all the famous movieguns we've seen time and time again. Gun guys have to stick together, especially the next generation. If you ever want to contact me outside the site, email me at companygunner@yahoo.com, or if you have an AIM account I'll be more than happy to IM. Keep up the great work.

Nice work on Platoon

It's shaping up nicely - I just made it the featured article on the front page. bunni 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Other answers (sorry for belated delivery)

.."how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect?"

I put the weapons on a clear plexiglass frame mount which I built from scratch. I place them in front of a seamless white paper backdrop. I illuminate the gun from one side with a large Arriflex Soft box and a smaller Lowel RIFA soft box on the other side. Sometimes I just put an LTM pepper on spots to lighten up dark areas. Then I put an Arriflex 1K on wide flood on the backdrop to whiten it out. I still need to erase some of the clear plexiglass mount (nothing is invisible, even clear transparent stuff) with Photoshop, but since most of the work is done before I download it onto the computer, it becomes much easier. I also move back at least ten feet and photograph the gun with a telephoto lens. This eliminates the 'warp' distortion of a wide angle lens when photographing a gun. Too many gun images are distorted because the photographer is too close ... and I see a lot of guy's feet at the bottom of the picture.

.."I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great..."

Done. Hope you like :) I will get some pics of M21s soon.

.."Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. ..."

I inundated MT2008 with info that there was no Colt launcher. Personally I didn't know who made or updated the page, he just sent me a note asking my opinion ... and SLAM! I dumped a bunch of stuff on him questioning the Colt claim. good thing he didn't get offended. hahaha I just responded to his query on my talk page. :)

.."Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM.."

The net has CRAPPY images. It's really hard, which is why I just pull out the stuff myself and take my own photos of it. I liked the idea of keeping a reference image. I am tempted to take a side by side pic myself (and not violate anyone else's copyright) and keep the clean white backdrop of the other pics. But I do have a couple of pics comparing them on the M16 page, i.e. mounted on rifles.
Yeah, the "Colt 37mm Flare Launcher" thing is completely my fault. I dunno why I thought they were made by Colt, but I swore I heard that term somewhere on the 'Net. Just goes to show why fact-checking is always mucho importante! But seriously, I'm glad MPM is always here to catch my goofs. See, GM, that's kinda how it works...I catch yours, he catches mine, and then everything works out for the better. -MT2008

Last Action Hero

I remember working peripherally (I helped out on some of the props, but wasn't on the armory staff at the time) on that film. Everyone DURING production was moaning about how dumb it was. And it was pretty dumb. I guess the people (NOT the stars) who work on films can actually tell if a movie is stinker when it's actually being filmed, I remember all of us laughing at the RAMBO III script when we saw it. Anyway, I will look for that pistol, but I'm not making any promises. I sure don't have one and off the top of my head, I don't know anyone who does. But I can ask around.

Also, Just a note, I really think that the MAC-10 in the film is actually MAC-11s (or possibly Cobray M11s, but I can't see how long the receivers are). They're much too small to be MAC-10s. I have average sized hands and MAC-10s are monstrously huge in my hands. Unless those stuntmen are giants, I think those are MAC-11s. Also it's funny that you DID note what I said about TEC-DC9s (being that they were usually seen in films after 1990). Apparently someone was listening. hahahaha.  :) But those in the photos of Arnold, are in fact TEC-9s, not TEC-DC9s. they have the sling mount in front so they're TEC-9s. Also I don't remember if they fired full auto in the film, but as far as I know, all the TEC-DC9s in Hollywood inventory are semi auto only. All the full auto ones are legal full auto conversions of TEC-9s. Only Miami Vice and a couple of other shows in the early 1980s used the old InterDynamics KG-99s. But most of the full auto guns you see are TEC-9s.

I own M21s, but they're in pieces. I have to reassemble them, get a cool scope to put on them. Also we have M21s that just came back from Iraq, I can also take some pics of those.

Nice job

Hey, nice job on the Jurassic Park page, and the other pages you did over the weekend, and also I think you forgot to put A Beautiful Mind on your Pages Built list. Alienqueen11

Re: Nice Job

I understand what you mean, I have school as well, and I understand the weekends are going to be the only times when you can make something big for awhile. Anyway, good luck, and keep up the good work. Alienqueen11

M1911 shots by MPM2008

I am getting some shots of some pristine Early 20th century and World War 2 era M1911s and M1911A1s, so be patient. I also am trying to get beauty shots of a lot of the classic handguns. I got a collector who has mint condition examples of lots of these classic guns and I am scheduling a shoot with him and his collection next week. MoviePropMaster2008

Uzi

About the Uzi page, you might want to leave a note on Bunni's talk page, he'll probably know what to do.--Alienqueen11 18:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Training Day Revolver

You want evidence, and an argument, you got one. First off, The S&W Model 66 is made of stainless steel, and not carbon steel plated with nickel. Model 19s were originally released with blue or nickel finishes. Second, A snub nosed, round butt Model 19 is a dime a dozen across the states. Here's a picture resembling the one from Training Day.

Look at the picture on the Training Day page, and they look identical, very identical, more so than any Taurus I have seen, or can find on the internet. No it doesn't have the emblem on the side, but that can be sanded off, photoshopped, or just not visible. None of us KNOW what this is, but I do KNOW my argument and my gun makes the most sense, above an Instant Backup, above a lot of things. Thank you for your time.


Call of Duty 4 Pictures

I have Pictures for guns in Call of Duty 4, but I have no clue how to get them to work

I've given up trying, and would just like to know who to send them to,

Pictures for: The Single player M4s [All three], Winchester M1200, M92 Krinkov, M21, And the USP

Since I can't trace your profile, I hope you read it on mine. Give me a URL to whatever page has these pics and I'll upload em for you. Sound good?

Re: Saving Private Ryan

I only took that one screenshot, wasn't planning on any more. Didn't mean to step on your toes there, was sort of done on impulse. Orca1 9904 18:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

It's awesome! And I have it in the Main Page "Featured Article" feed, too, so lots of people will get to see the overhaul. I always like it when I see a page that makes me want to watch a movie again, and this one is like that. Those Garand shots make me want to buy the M1 that I saw on sale this weekend (but...saving my $$$$ for the long dreamed-of P226 again).
Anyway, I'll look more later, but must watch Presidential debate now.
I've always loved the way the Garand ejects the stripper clip on the last round. My grandfather's a vet, and he's told me that he used to find it scary. But I find it oddly appealing in a retro-sorta way. If you get to play around with an original GI-issue M1, lucky you.
The Garand photos are really cool. As far as banning anonymous users from editing goes, I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. But at the very least, we really do need to have more moderators on hand.

Good call on the xXx

But it's spelled "xXx: State of the Union" Check out [[2]] as well as the first movie. I would have just changed it myself, but didn't want to jump out of the blue and just change your edit. Thanks. MPM2008

re: gun pics. I do have those guns but it takes time to do the photos. I am going to get new pics of actual M16A2s, a3s and a4s, sure some look alike but I'll try to get some good detail shots of the receivers if I remember. I went to the vault to take pics of the original m1911s and they're not there. I have to check with other people to see where they were moved.

Dibbs

The only film I would request or challenge dibbs rights on ;) is Rambo III since I (peripherally) worked on Rambo III and I would like to add information not readily available to the general public. Have you done the screen caps already? If not then I would be happy to, especially to highlight certain scenes with custom info. MPM2008

About the screencaps on COD4.

How did get them?
Sick-vice 22:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Re:XXX

Ah, OK. Well, understood then. It sucks when the director doesn't show good views of the actor/actress with a particular gun, but it's fine. Just a suggestion.

Nice work so far on Kelly's Heroes‎. While you're doing that, I think I'm going to get started soon on Where Eagles Dare.

On Kelly's Heroes

I'm sure you know this but Pt. Petuko is carrying an FN model D machine gun, completely the WRONG machine gun to be carrying. Also the leather Thompson Submachine gun magazine pouches aren't American but Yugoslavian Post war (1950s manufacture). Americans had khaki canvas Thompson stick pouches. MPM2008

M1911s

Per your request...Check out the new M1911 pics. I scored some really nice ones, a 1913 dated M1911 (original blued finish) and a World War 2 wartime dated M1911A1. I replaced some of the pics of repros in the original sections with those. Check it out. Thanks. MPM2008.

Need some help

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber


Are you sure?

You changed the section in The Unit from a Ruger MK II to this HDM gun. Are you sure this is the same weapon? The photo you added barely looks like the one in the series.

What about the Mossberg? It didn't quite look like the Express Deer model.

Reign of Fire

I have no clue as to what that gun is. I don't have any opportunities to talk to John McKenna being that he's exclusively in Europe and I don't even know if he's ever visited the U.S. If you ever figure out what the gun is, I can try to see if anyone has it, but all the .577s I've seen are double rifles and not bolt action rifles. MPM2008


577 pic

Congrats on the pic!!! :) I did not know anything about that gun. As you probably well figured out by now, I don't own one, nor does my company. But I can start asking around to see if any of the armorers have one so that I can take a beauty shot of it. Good job. MPM2008

The Punisher

The guy who made The Punisher page is never on anymore, so I would say you can indeed redo it, it needs a revamp. Just promise me you'll break up the additional weapons section on that page, I can't stand when people cram a bunch of different weapons into one section like that, it has nothing to do with things you do like the Armory section on Hard Boiled because you branch out. Also did you get my message on The Sin City talk page? Thanks in advance for the revamp.--Alienqueen11 03:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Dawn of the Dead

Hey, I just uploaded some new Dawn of the Dead (2004) screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights, and also can Mossberg sights be put on an 870? Thanks in advance.--Alienqueen11 03:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the shotgun, and the Glock. Do you want me to take your comments off the page or leave them for future reference? Also you have really good eyes.--Alienqueen11 04:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Tears of the Sun

I saw you comment that you were planning on editing the Tears of the Sun page. If it's ok with you, I'd like to do it, as I recently bought the DVD of it just for that purpose. Orca1 9904 07:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

Re:Tybalts Gun

You can't talk to anonymous uses? I think I've done it before. Watch for a second... -MT2008

Ak recog

Interesting Idea on the AK recog page. I will keep it in mind. Right now a lot of the AKs are customized into weird configs but they will eventually be put back to stock version. The only problem right now is that there are tons of post 1999 AK variants (Hungarians, Polish, Romanian, US made, etc.) that I don't have access to. California banned all AK models after Dec 31st 1999, but we could get them with a special permit, but 99.99% of the guys (myself included) didn't bother picking up any of the new AK models since we already had dozens upon dozens of the older 1980s version AKs. Like Sacha Robey's .223 AKs for Casino Royale, many of the foreign movies have access to AKs that are not imported into the U.S. I will look into getting page for the most common AK examples but usually there are the Maadi ARM(MISRS), Poly Tech Legends, Norinco Type 56, Romanian AIMS or Hungarian SA85s. That's about it for most of the AKs I've seen (and usually they are all 'dressed up' to look like other models if necessary). Again, interesting idea and I will start making note of and taking pics of AKs for that page.... MoviePropMaster2008

Jarhead M60E3

The real-life M1 Abrams has never been fitted with any variant of the M60 machine gun, it has always had two M240 machine guns; one mounted in a 'coaxial' configuration parallel to the main 120mm gun, and a second mounted at the Loader's hatch. The Browning M2 heavy machine gun at the Commander's hatch is correct though. If you look at my userpage on here, there's a picture of a real M1A1 in Iraq, the Loader's M240 being clearly visible. Orca1 9904 23:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

animated gifs

Can you do this? I never realized someone did one for HEAT and I though (for a few select pages or a few select guns) it would be cool. You seem to be the guru of screen capping, but I don't know how to make an animated GIF.


MPM2008

Just made you an Admin

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) WikiSysop 03:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Reign of Fire

Great work on Reign of Fire. Good thing I took a pic of my Ultimax Mk 2 ;) If you want, the next time I do a big shoot at the Class III vault, I'll snap a pic with a stick magazine rather than the drum. We got so many Ultimax Mk2s (at least a half a dozen) and they're aren't often used. I just want to find someone with a Para model to photograph. :) MPM2008

...

Yeah, I figured it was about time we had a page for the Non Guns. If we have one for the MGC M16 replicas, I figured we needed one for these. The convenient timing makes it better...please get a screenshot of Travolta with the Beretta Inox Non Gun and add the movie to my Non Guns page. -MT2008

Ah, shit, forgot about that. Do you want to use the one I uploaded instead? ISS's pictures are a bit annoying because they have the measuring tape above the gun; I prefer the ones from Weapons Specialists, which are what you see on the Non Guns page. -MT2008
Have to run out for a bit, but I'll be back later and do it then.
BTW, just so you know, the round you see ejecting out of Harris's 1911 in the film isn't a live round, and it wasn't edited. That's what full-flash motion picture blanks look like after being fired. The extra powder has to be packed into an extension of the brass that might look like an actual projectile. Some guns have to have their ejection ports widened in order to function properly with these, though I don't believe 1911s do. You'd have to ask MPM2008 about this, as I'm sure I'm getting the details partially wrong in some way. -MT2008

Jaws

Hey GM45, Are you by any chance interested in screencapping Jaws? Because if you aren't, I have the dvd and I would like to do it if it's not on your dibbs list.--Alienqueen11 02:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Top Pages

Very cool idea - nice work. bunni 05:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll look into automating some of it, will let you know if I have any luck. bunni 03:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do as soon as I possibly can. I'll be sure to have a quite a few good M1 Garand shots, and I definitely won't forget Scheider's famous line before he blows up the shark. And I will also be screencapping Four Brothers, and Assault on Precinct 13 (2005), so you can look forward to seeing those in the future as well.--Alienqueen11 05:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Jaws is now finished, be sure to check it out when you get the chance, and tell me what you think. I also put two extra screenshots on the it's talk page if you want to see those too.--Alienqueen11 01:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't change the order of the 'next page' buttons - but what about creating separate 'starting pages' or 'portals' grouping sequels and series - for example having the box and poster art of all the Matrix movies, anime and video games on one page with links to the individual pages? bunni 02:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC) s No problem, you were one of the best choices for a mod position. Excellent work on the Leone Trilogy, you've built up the Western side of the site very well. And thanks, Four Brothers is a good movie, and it needed a completed page.--Alienqueen11 19:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks for the congrats. Here is a picture of the P226 that the guy who's selling it sent me:

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It's a bit roughed up externally (which is to be expected, considering it's probably 15 years old), and I'll probably need to re-blue the hammer, but at $450, it was a pretty good deal (gun + three 15-round mags and a replacement short trigger). Plus, in my opinion, the stamped slide SIGs are of better quality than the ones with cheaply-milled American slides that SIG-Sauer produces today.

Most of my extended family (grandparents, cousins, aunt and uncle) are in New York, so I know what you mean about the gun laws there. Although I'm applying for a Master's program at NYU next year, in which case, I'll be in a worse situation. And yes, I do agree with that I'm very concerned about Biden being the VP. Obama may be the most left-wing president we've ever had once he takes office, but I expect him to be far too preoccupied with the economy and the wars (as well as the Russians) to care much about gun control. Biden, on the other hand, could be a very different story. I remember feeling terribly worried when I heard Obama chose him as VP - for precisely the reason you've mentioned! If he tries to push a new AWB through, it will definitely get through Congress, and Obama will sign it into law. I'm actually trying to persuade my dad, who cares very little for assault weapons, to buy an AR15 variant sometime before Obama gets into office. We definitely have some rough times ahead. -MT2008 01:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


Eh, my dad mostly likes guns for "historical" value, as opposed to guns that are "tacticool", so if you can convince him a gun has historical value, he might get interested in it. That was the argument I used when I was 18 and trying to persuade him to let me buy an AK (which damn near gave my very-liberal mother an aneurism). Once I bought it and he had the chance to shoot it, he did become fascinated with the Kalashnikov, mostly just because he admires their ruggedness and simplicity and the fact that it's been such an important weapon in 20th century combat. But he doesn't seem to have as much enthusiasm for the evil black guns with polymer parts, like ARs or H&Ks.
As far as politics go, no worries. I'm pretty sure most people on this site feel the same way about Biden right now. I know I sure do. It's too bad we got him when we could've had a pro-RKBAer like Palin. Except that Palin's kind of a ditz and I don't really care too much about shit like banning gay marriage or teaching creationism in schools. But still...
BTW, very nice job on the Last Man Standing page! Though I would recommend maybe being a little less exhaustive when it comes to screencaps. I know it's always tempting to use everything you've taken...every time I screencap a movie for IMFDB, I take probably three or four times the numbers of screencaps I actually wind up using on the page. -MT2008 02:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
I must concur with MT2008, the screen caps are beautiful, but there seem to be too many of the same sequence or gun. No offense intended, but it takes a long time to scroll down the page to see the 'Next' firearm used. When I screencap, I end up discarding all but the most clear shots of the guns. IMHO. :) best regards MoviePropMaster2008 19:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

crap

I posted a long and detailed response to all your questions or queries ... and then my computer froze up and I lost all of it. %(*$&^% I am running out to outfit a bunch of people with weapons today, so I will have to try to rewrite what I wrote this weekend. Sorry. MoviePropMaster2008 19:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You can start the Quick and The Dead if you like, I should be able to work around your screengrabs. And thanks for the comment, I've taken a page from your book by just putting the name of the movie and Category:Screenshot in a screenshot's description because writing an entire description of a screenshot can be a pain and can make creating a page seem like it takes forever.--Alienqueen11 02:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you should get rid of those pictures, I think they're great. I saw the Shooter one, and I'm going to get shots of that eventually, and also good luck with getting your work done.--Alienqueen11 03:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Empty Pages I Created

Planning to add to them. Just starting them up while I get info together. Sorry about that. If it's best to delete them in the meantime that's fine and I'll go from there. CyclopsScott 03:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Western guns

I am trying to get pristine examples of a bunch of Western guns. I already have a Nickel SAA with ivory grips and a two tone SAA with rosewood grips and partial brass frame. the Nickel SAA has been in films. But getting new and high resolution pics of all of the guns on your western movie pages is on my list of things to do.  :) I may have a line on a real (not replica) buntline and Bisley, so I'll get pics of those.MoviePropMaster2008 08:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Hotel Rwanda

GREAT work on the Hotel Rwanda Page. It's a very polished page. I'm particularly tickled that my Shot of an African G3 got some use! ;) MoviePropMaster2008 23:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

The World Is Not Enough (video game)

Hey bro, in the video games section, the game "The World Is Not Enough (video game)" should be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough

I'm new to this site and you're the only admin I come across. Hope you can show me around.

edit: Thanks for the reply bro. appreciate it. will let you know if i need help.

FYI

Nearly all blank adapted M16 variants in movies use the old style M16A1 birdcage flashhider. Directors want to the see the 'star pattern' full flash and the A2 style birdcage flashhiders with the solid bottom looks stupid with the high flash blanks. Don't know if you noticed by all of my A2s and (most of the M4s that are already blank adapted) have the A1 style flash hider. Also this is obvious in screengrabs of movies like Cloverfield, where there is obvious flash going downwards (which would not be the case if a real A2 flash hider was used). I will try to get an SP1 with a 30 round mag and an m203 for you. I 'may' be able to score that original weird fake M203 from someone who has one (they were made by Special Effects Unlimited in the late 1970s and aren't like anything commercially available now. In fact they were made before there were any unrestricted M203 look a likes available.) Nowadays everyone uses the Cobray/SWD ones. Good work. MoviePropMaster2008 21:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Walther P99 page

hey bro you might wanna add Rogue (Jet Li) from the movie War in the page

i'm still learning how to edit. apologies

edit: appreciate it :)

Hollowpoint

I've been looking at that Hollowpoint page for a while. I spoke to MT2008 a while ago, and mentioned that we had a bunch of Type 84s in weird configurations and that I was going to restore them. After shooting the one in the classic Type 84 config, I was looking at a stripped barreled receiver and quickly put on some other wood and replaced the standard front site with a type 56 underfolding spike bayonet front end. That barrel's end was milled down anyway (which I don't like but a lot of the military guns were like that). I like threaded barrels so that I can put any flash hider or muzzle brake that I want. I finally got a pic uploaded and now IMFDB is the only site on the entire internet that has the "Hollowpoint rifle" or at least I think. So the short answer is that I made the gun to be identical to the movie gun. Dave Young is a canadian armorer (or at least works 99% of the time in Montreal) and I've seen a lot of weird hybrid guns in the Canadian armorer circles.

American Gangster page

Hey bro in the American Gangster page, it says Denzel Washington is wielding a 1911. But when you go to Denzel's page, it
says Denzel is using the browning hi-power. Please clarify.

the subject of "dibbs"

Don't want to cause controversy, but I am not comfortable with the concept of calling Dibbs on the pages. Since any member or new visitor has the right to make their contributions, it seems like pre=emptively telling new members 'don't touch this page'. Sure you or anyone else can fix someone else's screw ups or replace crappy screen caps with good ones, IMHO it may send the wrong message that there is only the 'elite few' who can touch some pages. Sure, I don't like it when people "fix" the pages that I worked on (especially the ones that were blank before I spent my time fixing it), but I do have the power (as do you) to remove inaccurate or silly input. I have replaced low res or bad screencaps (look at what I did on "The spirit") and it didn't bother me when someone rushed out an redid the "Iron man" page before I could get to it (I Pre-ordered and purchased the DVD just for screengrabbing purposes, but my job got busy, and someone beat me to it and I didn't mind because they did a good job). Anyway, that's my opinion. You do a great job on screencaps (albeit I'm one of those that think there are too many images of the exact same gun on the page, but that's just my opinion. Others like Alienqueen for example, seem to love the many images, so who knows?) Hopefully we can encourage and guide new members to make good screen caps and contributions as well. anyway that's just an opinion. I think we can always see if new members want to try their hand at working on pages. Chances are most won't, so we will end up doing it anyway. But I would prefer the 'perception' that we encourage people of 'good intentions' (versus the idiot vandals) to contribute to the site. Anyway, thats just an opinion. Would be happy to hear your thoughts. MoviePropMaster2008 21:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Check it out

I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.

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MoviePropMaster2008 01:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.


There you go, I cut the black bars off the Hostage screenshots for you, I really like that Two Tone Beretta 92FS, I asked MPM2008 if he could get a picture of one like that. Anyway, the screenshots may look wierd at first, but that will fix itself soon. Great work on Hot Fuzz so far.--Alienqueen11 02:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

It always does that when I do an image overwrite, don't know why though. It will look distorted or squished, or still look like the old image for a little while before it finally changes to the newer version.--Alienqueen11 02:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

fun gun

thought you'd get a kick out of this... ;) You being someone who knows a lot about guns and does a lot of firearms research, you'd know how rare this one is. hahahahah :)

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FG42 1st pattern rifle - 7.92mm

Well you wouldn't see it in any American weapons catalogue. :) It was issued only to German Paratroopers of Nazi germany. Very few were made and BTW they're full auto guns. Imagine firing a rifle at your shoulder that dumps a 20 round box magazine of full sized 8mm Mauser rounds (!) on another note, I've been trying to get pics of the imperial Japanese guns (like the Type 100 or Type 97 MGs) for a while now. Stembridge used to have tons of them :( you know, I make a note of some of the pages you do, and the ones with lots of details, I make a list to try and get good examples of the guns. I still can't get a stainless 5906. But I'll still keep trying. I like your Hot fuzz page. Usually I try to get the gun to look just like the ones used in the movie (like the AMD-65 I did for the Rambo III page or the "Hollowpoint" Type 84). MoviePropMaster2008 05:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Excellent work!!

Congratulations for your work on Hot Fuzz, it's wonderfully done!

Movies to screengrab

I sure hope Mr. & Mrs Smith and TAPS are on your list. I am more curious which version of Mr. & Mrs. Smith you might have. I now know there are two (2) versions. the one I have is the original theatrical release, which is missing about 5 minutes of battle scenes from the television cut. I hope you have the other one, or have access to it. There are firearms shots in the longer version that I can't screen grab. best regards MoviePropMaster2008 03:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Screencaps

I sure hope you can replace those Bootleg Tropic Thunder screencaps with your legal ones asap ;) I always cringe when I see bootleg DVD images (especially those from China). Looking forward to it.

Remington 870

Do you recall any film that has an 870 with a long hunting barrel? I recall seeing one on the site but it doesn't come up in a search. Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008 20:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Yes, it was the UNIT that I saw the use, but I'm pretty surprised that we haven't seen more long barreled 870s in Movies or TV. They're so ubiquitous. MoviePropMaster2008 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Morita Rifle

Sorry about the page. Funny that we were working on the same page at exactlyi the same time. hahaha. Well I got some original props from the movie, including my own rig from the battle scenes (but I'm too fat now to fit into it anymore hahahaha). My own Morita Rifle from the movie is pretty beat up, but now I have motivation to repair it and photograph it for the continuing Glory of IMFDB. Hope you're feeling better :) regards MoviePropMaster2008 03:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Bangkok Dangerous

I used the High Def Internet trailer for Bangkok Dangerous to screen grab, so they're not bootleg images. I have not seen this movie, but I am unsure about some of my Gun Identifications. Just dropping a line, since I replaced some of your screengrabs. regards MoviePropMaster2008 05:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

tropic thunder

I'll try to get you a Colt Sporter II in the exact configuration of Tropic Thunder very soon. It's on my list of things to do (along with redoing all the Colt carbine shots with the new digital camera (some of the older shots were with an old film camera and scanned on a flat bed scanner). Also you're right about the closeness of the blank firing pistol to be dangerous, but it's not that bad. The rule of thumb is 15 feet (but we try to get them to divert the angle so it's off axis and we also warn them that unburnt powder can still hit your eyes.). In the shot with Jack Black, it doesn't look too bad. We've done closer than 15 feet, but we take special precautions. MoviePropMaster2008 21:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

590

BTW, hope you don't mind, but I'm replacing your low rez image of the 590 with my own. MoviePropMaster2008 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

The Dark side of movie guns

One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. MoviePropMaster2008 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

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Heck at least it fireable....

You're not gonna believe this

I MAY have tracked down a custom .577 T-Rex to photograph. Still want it? Since they are usually custom built, some of the minor design details might be slightly different. normally I wouldn't care, but I was looking through a rack of another guy's armory and I asked "what's that gun?" and he quipped, oh a .577..... It just doesn't have a scope mounted yet. MoviePropMaster2008 19:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

On some of your pics

Hope you don't mind, on some of your gun pics (the guns I don't have access to just yet) I was going to 'color correct' them and remove some of the excessive 'white space' around them. I was just going to get rid of any 'greenish' or yellow or bluish tints and make the colors more correct and reload them. So if you see some pics that have been reloaded, some of them are just the same pic but 'color corrected'. regards. MoviePropMaster2008 18:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Smokin' Aces

Hey GM45, do you by any chance have Smokin' Aces? If you do, is there a possibility you can put it on your to do list? Not that you have to screencap it, I'm just asking because that page is in need of better screenshots. And don't worry, I'll chop the black bars off some of the screencaps eventually.--Alienqueen11 03:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

New screencaps

GREAT job on the Crank screen grabs. Are you doing Blu ray now? :) MoviePropMaster2008 04:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Workload

hahahaha. Well i got my massive GUNS to photograph to do list ;) I've photographed over 200 guns so far.... It sure doesn't seem like it but I looked at my 'transfered to IMFDB folder' and there are about 207 images that were taken from original photographs. What's killing me right now is that I can get to the cool vintage western stuff, but the guys are so hard to get a hold of. regards... MoviePropMaster2008 04:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving

Hope you're eating well :) regards 76.199.198.193 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


Re:U.S. Marshals

Yeah, sure, that would be fine. Mine are OK, but kinda low-res. I would definitely prefer higher-res alternative. Also note that some of my shots don't appear on the page itself (i.e. the shot of Robert Downey Jr. with his Glock-22 which I took for the actor page). -MT2008 17:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

anonymous users

It's a very simple change to block anonymous users from making any edits, how to stop them from just making new pages I haven't quite figured out... I think we may just try disallowing edits from anonymous users for a while - my worry is that we will lose potential newcomers who may not understand they have to register first, I'll need to figure out a way to display a message to anonymous users that they must register first... I'm working on it. bunni 20:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail

Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. It's a bottle with gasoline in it. It's not manufactured or crafted, like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since you made it and put effort into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO MoviePropMaster2008 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Molotovs

Thanks for the explanation.  :) I figured it was something like that. MoviePropMaster2008 21:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

.PNG Images

Yeah, I use .pngs in place of traditional .jepgs. They take a while to load, but they're a lot clearer and less pixelated, and with the low res 90s movies I build pages for, I need all the clarity I can get.

Thinking of overwriting some of the Thompson Pics

I was just giving you the heads up, since one of the uploaded pics of Thompsons is one you uploaded. I was going to overwrite it with one of these. Let me know if you have any objections. I am also adding the M1s and M1A1s when I get a chance. MoviePropMaster2008 02:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

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M1921 Thompson
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M1928 "OverStamped" Auto Ordnance Thompson (this one is a real beat up one)
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M1928A1 with a Drum magazine
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M1928A1 Late model Military contract Thompson with Stick magazine and transitional rear sight (same as M1 first model)

WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?

Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode) http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts and opinions on the matter are appreciated. MoviePropMaster2008 08:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


the other Glock

Can you take a look at the other Glock in my Resident Evil page? I'm trying to see if it's a Glock 26.

Alien Nation

I think you're right about the shotgun. I'm going to change it. MoviePropMaster2008 06:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Jingle All the Way

Thanks for the compliments on Jingle All the Way. I actually have a VHS copy of this movie and saw it this evening on TV. I might try to snag the DVD to screencap it, but if anyone else has it they're free to do so themselves if they wish. Orca1 9904 05:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

The Dark Knight

I think Gunner313 basically just adds pictures he got off other sites, he said he does before. You can still do The Dark Knight, you're one of the best screencappers on here, if you really want to screencap it, you should.--Alienqueen11 20:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page?

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time Excalibur01

I was using Microsoft Paint and then realize I could crop the wide screen effect. Excalibur01 00:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


I can't be nice anymore

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. Excalibur01 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey, anime deserves to be on this site just as much as games. Most of them were drawn from concept to the us watching them, down to the very details. Gunslinger girls, Ghost in the Shell, Black Lagoon. The artists of those series took their time and effort to make then guns that appear to be as authentic as possible when they can and that in itself deserves respect in a site like this dedicate to cataloging guns from movies and shows we've seen. Anime that do draw the guns so realistic deserves to be on the same respect level as we respect the armorers for the movies and shows. Anime is a real work of art. These flash animations are just attempts at art and failing, only providing us with cheap and a lot of time free entertainment.

Excalibur01

Yes, I know which anime you are talking about. I don't know why we allow stuff from the Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, and South Park...But it's not as bad as flash animation. Excalibur01 02:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

My airsoft

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. Excalibur01 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Predator

BTW: Fantastic work on the Predator page. It is very impressive and informative. :) MoviePropMaster2008 19:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Got it for you

Got a pic of one of the DIE HARD HK94 conversions. The third firing position (2) was stamped after the fact (and is shallower than the factory etched "0" and "1". This one is from the rack of movie guns used for AIR FORCE ONE :) thought you might get a kick out of it. Actually I had this in a folder of pics I had shot six months ago and I totally forgot that I had it. :) :)MoviePropMaster2008 03:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

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HK94 converted into a full auto gun with chopped barrel - 9mm

T2

I will review it in detail later re the length or the trivia, but at a glance it looks very interesting :) . But I did make a note to myself take pics of the Colt Sporters used in the film. I got those configurations. You were right in that the slab side is just a Colt Sporter Carbine with the barrel chopped down. The "Commando" with the forward assist is the Colt Sporter II, again converted. I also have to replace some of my M16 pics since they are 'custom' guns that aren't indicative of the 'classic' models (like the 733, etc.)

BTW: I replaced the USP45 amongst other guns. I am also working on new FNC pics. The problem is that there are multiple versions of the FNC. The ones imported into the U.S. were the (a) FNC 223 Rem Sporter (the semi auto import version with a bayonet lug and thin sling ring), (b) the later model FNC 223 Rem Sporter with NO bayonet lug and thicker forward sling ring, (c) the FNC Para Sporter. Then there is the real deal, the Belgian full auto FNC Early model and the FNC Para model. And now there is a newer model FNC rifle with some design changes and the newer model FNC Para rifle. More modern movies filmed overseas would have the all Belgian guns. American movies would have the U.S. Imported variants. I'm trying to get pics of each type.

Check this out:  :) You're the FIRST to see this puppy! :)

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FNC semi auto imported rifle - marked FNC 223 REM SPORTER on the receiver - 5.56mm

MoviePropMaster2008 08:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Screencaps on Commando

I know you like pages with tons and tons and tons of screencaps (so does Alienqueen, I think). And I've made it obvious in the past that I really don't like having so many screencaps on a page. I think it makes the page massive and unwieldy and hard to look at. But that's my opinion and my taste. I prefer to have no more than four images on a page. Recently some member added TONS of pics to my Dogs of War page. Way TOO many images and I think it made the page look clumsy. But I would appreciate NOT adding tons of new screencaps to pages that I essentially built up myself, just like I wouldn't delete any of the photos for the pages that you did from scratch. It's just a matter of taste, I know, but I don't like having a lot of pics of the same gun over and over again. I think it belabors the point and (especially for members with slower internet connections) it slows down the viewing of the page. (case in point, I thought that having over fourteen screenshots of Bruce willis and his M1911 in Last Man Standing was just too much, but that was your page and I'm not prone to criticize based on my "page layout" sensibilities. I hope you understand my point and thanks for all the hard work you've done on the site. Thanks and best regards MoviePropMaster2008 02:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Got it, finally :)

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AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm

Now I will be updating with this pic. :) MoviePropMaster2008 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

RE:The Dirty Dozen and Great Escape.

You can do it.I don´t mind.Oliveira 11:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

RE:The Dirty Dozen

Would you mind terribly telling me why you replaced EVERYTHING that I put on the page for "The Dirty Dozen"??? I admit the page was not as detailed as it could have been but where do you get off COMPLETELY DELETING everything that I put on there??? --Charon68 05:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Charon68

Re: Scarface

I'll try to get more shots for Scarface when I get the chance. I've seen the Fate of Legions blog, and I agree it's cool. Great job on Mail Call so far.--Alienqueen11 04:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed, I enjoy checking your User page to see what you're going to do next, and I can't wait to see Mail Call and SNAFU when you're done. Anything with Gunny is worth checking out. And also, I am getting really tired of Anonymous users deleting screenshots and trivial information off pages as with the Colaterial page a few minutes ago. It dosen't hurt to have some trivia, it's what this site is for, and seeing how everybody is protecting their pages, it's only a matter of time before this site can only be edited by registered users.--Alienqueen11 05:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

You are very right, it should be the person who makes the page or an adminstrator who decides what should or should not be on a page, not some anonymous user visiting the site for the first time. And I understand how much time it can take make a page, some of them can take a day to get done. Plus if you think that's bad, look at this guy's edit to Saving Private Ryan:

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This made me really pissed.--Alienqueen11 06:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Some of them might, but don't worry about them, they're just anonymous users. They're easily dealt with, plus you do great work. Great job on Mail Call so far, and I'll be sure to check out the Great Escape when it's done.--Alienqueen11 02:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Gunner313

I notice you say Gunner313 uploaded images from Legion's Fate's blog. Where did he do this? I searched his contrib history and didn't see them, so I haven't figured out what you mean. But if you see people doing that kind of shit, do not hesitate to delete the images and give them a severe warning. It makes us look bad. And likewise, same with screencaps from bootlegs. There's no need to have this "I'll let it go just this once" approach - by all means, you've got the right to take action. -MT2008 05:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the images I have been a member here since it started. I only recently got a computer capable of taking screen caps and playing dvds. I use to make due as best I could to try and add images to this site. Gunner313

24

Will you be around today to screen cap 24 Season 7 on FOX? I heard on your bio you could would maybe in the future start working on 24. I'm a big fan but I don't have screencapping software yet. I'd finally like to have screencaps on 24 the page. -Btracy1994 10:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


Re: Lord of War

Eh, depends. Main question is, how many additional screencaps do you want to add? I really would prefer you not add a ridiculous amount of extra screencaps, like 20 shots per gun, the way you've been doing on some of your pages. I think it's been getting a little bit out of control lately, so if you want to work more on that page, I'd rather you limit yourself to something like 6 shots per gun at most. Especially since the Lord of War page is one of the site's most popular.

I see that I'm not the only one who isn't fond of too many shots of the same gun on a page. It makes the page way too big and unwieldy. I certainly don't love endlessly scrolling down just to see what the NEXT gun entry is. I don't mean to diminish the hard work done, but there is a limit to how many screenshots should be on a gun's section of the page. You've been doing a LOT better in reigning in the sheer number of screencaps. I must give fair warning any additional screenshots on pages that I've done 99% of the work on, I reserve the right to start editing out images if I think there are too many of them. Anyway, other than that issue, you've done tons of great work. I was thinking of requesting that members start taking a second look at orphaned pages, i.e. pages with no screenshots at all before we start adding tons of new pages. MoviePropMaster2008 04:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, which guns did I miss? The only ones I forgot to make an entry for are the M16A1 with A2 handguards and the Galil AR used by two of the Lebanese militiamen. I suppose I could also make a section for the inside of Yuri's container, although most of the guns in there are guns that appear elsewhere in the movie. -MT2008 00:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Tyrannasaurus

It was Alienqueen's second account... we were doing some testing working out some bugs after moving servers last year. bunni 06:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for helping with my Sopranos page- everytime I watch an episode I try and screencap and figure out what's what. I'm sure I'm still a good bit off from finishing it, but I appreciate your comments! - Speakeasy804

A little help

I just started my Police Story 3: Supercop page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? Excalibur01 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Question About Bond Actor Category

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, Halle Berry & Honor Blackman) and villians (such as Robert Carlyle & Gert Fröbe)? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. Orca1 9904 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

The Godfather

Thanks, The Godfather is a great movie deserving of a full imfdb page! To answer your question about the gun used in the "Leave the gun..." scene, I tried to see what it was when I was screencapping it a few nights ago but I believe the shot was too far away to capture one. It's possible that some DVD players might be able to zoom in with a good enough resolution to see what it might be, but mine doesn't have the capability. I wish you luck finding it though, I'd be curious to know myself! - Speakeasy804


re: The Departed

Blocked him already. I don't tolerate this kind of bullshit at all when it's some random guy who has never made a useful contribution.

Sorry I've been away for so long...just got back from DC. I'll look over what's transpired the last few days. But nice job on Get Smart! -MT2008 00:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I was actually in DC for Obama's inauguration, as I told MPM in a brief post to his wall. And no, I am not at all a fan of our new President, and less so the VP. But my Mom (who is a liberal) was really excited and wanted me to come, and you know...I couldn't hurt Mom's feelings. Plus, my boss at the law firm where I work (also one of my Mom's friends) was able to book me at a really nice hotel (the Sofitel, where Edward Norton and Dennis Hopper also stayed), and I got two days off from work, and I got to hang out in DC for the first time in over 10 years. So, regardless of how I feel about our country swearing in its most left-wing President ever, the trip was still worthwhile.
Oh, yeah, and the best part is...Obama's speech really was inspiring to me. It has inspired me to save more and more of my paychecks so that I can buy that nice new M4gery I've always wanted to own...before he and Biden ban them forever. -MT2008 00:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Good suggestions!

Thanks, I'd always been a big fan of The Getaway (1972) so I decided to start re-screencapping it. I could do a few more but I wasn't sure on the protocol on replacing another user's images. (Also, thanks for adding the year; I have a DVD of the 1994 version coming in the mail so I'll be screencapping that as well. I hear it's not quite as up to par as the other but any movie is worth an article here). And yeah, I should probably add some info. I have a huge list of movies I plan on building/screencapping/improving, etc. so it'd be better if I got that name up there in blue. Thanks! - Speakeasy804

That would be awesome if you could protect it. Thanks! Speakeasy804
I appreciate that, I'll try and add more once I can think of anything remotely interesting about myself. -Speakeasy804

re: The Untouchables

Thanks! Whenever you get a chance, do you think you might be able to review some of the Model 10s and shotguns on there? I'm wondering if a few of the revolvers listed as Model 10s are something else (though nothing I could quickly identify) and I just want to make sure I got the shotguns straight (I only know a few things about differentiating 1897s from 1912s). Thank you and good luck with Mail Call! - Speakeasy804

Thank you for the revolver help. I knew the front sight was off, as well as other things on the frame, but I didn't want to make a poor guess. I believe you're right about the Police Positives. Thanks again! - Speakeasy804

Mail Call

Nice photos but the ones that are listed as M1917 on aircraft are not correct. The Machine gun on the Folker EIII is a Maxim LMG08/15 Air Cooled machine gun built by Spandau. The LMG in LMG08/15 stands for Luft Maschinen Gewehr or Air Machine Gun in english.

Nice job on Mail Call. When you get to the episode on the Colt Potato Digger machine gun I have some info on that. Also I will see if I can scan my challenge coin that R. Lee gave me for the site.

The Untouchables

Photo of Nickel pistol held by Kevin Costner and Billy Drago is a Star Model B. The show also had some Colt Official Police .38 revolvers and a Welbey in .455 caliber used by the RCMP.

XXX

Thats a M61 Vulcan mounted under the chopper. The special features in the film has it wrong. There are only two Vulcans in the industry at this time. They have been converted to blank fire and used in Armageddon, XXX and Death Race. I have hadled they and see them and the helicopter mount about once a week. Look at the size of the weapon mounted to the copper and minigun. The gun under the chopper is twice as long as the minigun. Also compare the photo from XXX to the gunship from We Were Soldiers that we had two miniguns mount on.

Video Games

Armorers work on video games consist of four parts. Part one is foley work sound department records every noise the weapons action makes without firing. Part two is live firing the weapon at private range with eight to ten mics surrounding the shooter and several more located down range. Part Three is have each weapon photographed and film in the firing position for the digital modeling. Part Four is firing at items with a suppressed weapon to record impacts for the game. To most people this would sound like a lot of fun but it has to be one of the most stressful events for a armorer since there is no breaks other than to change weapons. Most of the time games have about 20 to 30 different weapons in them and all this is done between one and three days. The shooter can not move, breath or make any noise while firing as the mics will pick it up.

Iron Man CAR15

In the photo with the line of rifles it states it has a commercial CAR15 flash hider. I really it is an M4 carbine with a Surefire suppressor flash hider BFA. I built those BFA's for that show. Phoenixent


M60E1 machine gun

I went back and checked to see if our M60's were of the E1 configuration. We had 18 on We Were Soldiers and they were all standard M60's. Then I checked out a sight that had a photo of the M60E1 and that is completely different system. Check it out at this website http://www.warboats.org/stonerordnotes/M60%20GPMG%20R5.html. -Phoenixent

M1 Garand question

I have a question about the M1-C Garand and M1-D Garand, do you load them like you would the M1 Garand? and does the En Bloc clip pop out of them too after the last round is fired? I'm not sure because the scope seems to right above where the En Bloc clip pops out. Thanks for any answers in advance.--Alienqueen11 04:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Usable pic?

I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)

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Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG

best regards MoviePropMaster2008 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC) BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

Thanks

Thanks for the info, I see how it works now. And yeah,, I don't think I would like a left sided scope either, I would prefer it to be in line with the barrel. And glad to see you're finally able to screencap Shoot Em' Up, can't wait to see it.--Alienqueen11 19:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Request list

I'm going to visit some buddies who have a lot more stuff than I do and I was wondering if you had any more special request pics. I have them on my user page at the top, but I wanted to make sure that you knew that I was 'taking orders' to see if these guys have any pristine versions of these guns that i could photograph. Thanks. Let me know your 'request list'. MoviePropMaster2008 01:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Request list

Good thing you mentioned the Winchester 1866 with the forearm and without, or else I would have forgotten about it. Again, don't know if the guys with these weapons even want to take the time to let me snap some pro photos, but it doesn't hurt to ask. As for the M60, I got one myself and are looking at it right now, but it's fubared, i.e. the plastic trigger group got cracked and I did a patch job on the rear end (and haven't bothered to fully fix it. Also it's REALLY beat up and I am still looking for one in decent shape. Here is a cropped snap shot of it taken some years ago on a movie set. One of the young actors was holding it near the crafts services table and I took a snapshot. here it is. But I will try to fix it up prior to IMFDB photography ;)

Nope, just an extra. He treated the gun great though. There was always guys who listen to the on set armorer and then there are they guys you gotta watch like a hawk. MPM

Re:Hitman

Actually, I only have the regular Unrated DVD. Mine doesn't seem to come with a whole lot of special features besides Deleted Scenes. If you want to add the screencaps of the armorer showing off the guns, that's fine by me. Also, I think I'm going to keep some of the publicity stills. I prefer to keep those whenever they show a better view of the gun than appears in the movie. -MT2008 21:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Colt Mustang

Thanks for fixing the page up. Been a while since I created one so I have forgotten some of the nuances. User: Charon68

Got a gift for you! ;) More coming

You can do the honors on the movie page... :D I still have more pics to clean up and color correct (and that takes a lot of time)...

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The Custom engraved Colt Single Action army used by "Ace Hanlon" (Lance Henriksen) in The Quick and the Dead (1995) .45 LC. This is the actual live firing screen gun used by Lance Henriksen.
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The custom engraved Remington 1875 used by John Herod (Gene Hackman) in The Quick and the Dead (1995) This it the ACTUAL revolver used by Hackman in the Saloon sequence.
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This it the Custom All silver Remington 1875 used by 'The Kid' (Leonardo DiCaprio) in The Quick and the Dead (1995) This is the actual revolver handled by DiCaprio in the Gun Store scene!.

Like it? :) MoviePropMaster2008 00:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I got more, but they're not western related

I will actually be REPLACING some of the existing images with these, so that we don't have to manually update all the linked pages. I will be doing these, but I am giving you a heads up update on what I am uploading....

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Kimber Custom TLE II pistol with Surefire light - this is the exact pistol used by the team in the movie SWAT. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)
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This is the screen used SIG P220R used by Bruce Willis in the movie Live Free and Die Hard. This one is Bruce Willis's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him and fired by him)
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Nickel plated STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie Pulp Fiction. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)
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Blued STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie The Untouchables (1987). This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. Normally on generic guns I retouch out big scratches on the finish, but this is an original piece used in the film and the scratches are what identify it as authentic to people who know what Costner was firing.

I got tons more, but I have to clean up the pics.... MoviePropMaster2008 01:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Replacing some of your pics

Hope you don't mind that I will be replacing some of your pics with screen used gun pictures. I have the 5906 from Collateral. ;) MoviePropMaster2008 02:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

More pics

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Vincent's Smith & Wesson 5906 from Collateral - 9mm. This is a screen used gun. Note the late model 5906 pistols have the rounded trigger guard.
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Early Model Smith & Wesson 5906 - 9mm. The early model 5906 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but they changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.
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Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.

These others were also screen used, but I need to recheck and verify what. BTW, I do 'scramble' the serial numbers (in Photoshop) when they are visible so that nosy people can't track down the original SN for the movie gun. I have TONS more pics, but I don't want to sit here all night. I have another gig to go to :) I also replaced the TEC-9 image with a good one and will be replacing a bunch more. :) MoviePropMaster2008 02:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Re:Your page format

I see what you are talking about with the none instead of left. I was just think about when you have multiple photos of the same weapon to put them next to each other to same some space. I also notice that the photo go all over the place as in the Death Race posting without the left or right. It works on a couple of other wikis but all are different. I will put up a representative photo for each weapon shortly. Thanks. - Phoenixent

SOCOM Mk 23

The Knights Armament Suppressor was not mine, but belonged to a fellow armorer, but he was also a license Title II and Destructive Device Manufacturer, so he had samples of ALL the late generation Suppressors. MoviePropMaster2008 02:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Re:Hitman

It looks great! Nice job! Too bad I didn't get the proper version, but I only spent $7 for this movie (used) at Half-Price Books. I don't think I would have wanted to spend more than that. Anyway, it does seem like this weapons coordinator was kind of a douche. I imagine armorers in Bulgaria aren't really held to the same standards as their American counter-parts.

Oh, yeah, and I think there may be one other weapon type in the film I missed (besides the myriad assortment of handguns on the table at Udre's place which I would never be able to figure out. It looks like two of Udre's guards are using MP7s just before 47 takes them out with his MP5s. -MT2008 02:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Gunner313

Some loser anonymous was vandalizing pages throughout the site one time, and he made Gunner313's user page with a nasty comment on it. Gunner313 is free to make a real user page whenever he wants.--Alienqueen11 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: The Iron Giant

I have the movie, although on VHS instead of DVD, otherwise I would have screencapped it. There's some other weapons used by the soldiers (rifles and a pistol fired by Gen. Rogard), but wasn't sure if they were based enough on any real weapons to be included (the rifles looked like the bastard children of an M1 Garand and an M14). If you can screencap the film for me, feel free. Orca1 9904 02:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Shoot 'Em Up.

Great Job on the Shoot 'Em Up page. Just a couple of quick thoughts:

- Don't be so hard on the movie. The entire thing was basically one feature-length Looney Tunes cartoon...if Quentin Tarantino had written one.

- Doesn't Smith use a USP Compact during his sex scene with DQ/shootout, or is that the same USP? If so, then I'm going to assume that you don't have shots of that...for obvious reasons. --Clutch 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

push

Per your request, I got as many gun pics as I could from the HD trailer. Check out the Push page. I haven't seen the movie so my guesses are just guesses. MoviePropMaster2008 09:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Legends of the Fall

Hi, I congratulate you for you work! Can you post the movie "Legends of the Fall" and the firearms used in this film? Sorry for my bad english.

Legends of the Fall (again)

Hi again, maybe I don`t write correctly. I trying to say: "can you do Legends of the Fall"? I saw you are realy good and know a lot about firearms.But I have bad english and I don´t know much about firearms, I am learning. It`s a request if its no bother to you. I hope do you understand what I trying to say you. Sorry again for my english.

shotgun in Thunderball

Hey I just posted screenshots from Thunderball and there was a ribbed barrel shotgun (which I believe was a Remington 870) in some scenes. I remember you had some pictures of an incredible 870 Wingmaster and I was wondering if you could look at the shots I took from TB and tell me if they're at all similar, just so I'd know how to categorize it. Thanks! - Speakeasy804

Thanks, that should be a great help! I won't label anything clearly until we know for sure but I'll do some looking into it myself as well now that I'm not searching blindly - Speakeasy804

Tanks for your answer

Tanks for your answer about Legends of the fall. My first language is Spanish, I´m from Argentina. My English is basic, sometimes I forgot the past simple or the future, and sometimes I need help from google translate, but I hope improve in English and learn more about firearms. I wait craving for Legends of the fall. Tanks.


SIG

Whoops, sorry if I missed that. Anyway, the answer is that yes, "SIG-Sauer" is correct. SIG is an acronym for Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft (Swiss Industrial Society), while Sauer is shorthand for the German firm J. P. Sauer und Sohn GmbH. In other words, "SIG" is an acronym, while "Sauer" is not, so it's appropriate to capitalize all letters of "SIG". And if I ever see people who don't capitalize it, I always correct it. -MT2008 23:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Rundown

Well I have no problem with posting screencaps of guns that are not what I already posted. As I proposed in the 'rules' suggestion in the forum, that this being a Wiki, we should be prepared that our screengrabs 'could' be replaced at any time with something of markedly 'superior' quality. However, if you open that can of worms, just remember that in all fairness, I or other users could also replace any of your screengrabs on any page you built when we please as well. I am glad you asked, but unless the existing screencap is just crap, it doesn't seem appropriate to replace it. MoviePropMaster2008 18:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Blank revolver question

My talk page is too big and I can't find the blank revolver question so please post it again. Sorry, but my own discussion page is just too massive to scan (I should do some cleanup to make it shorter). MoviePropMaster2008 18:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Shit

I just did an edit on The Rundown while you are still editing. A useless one, too. Please make sure you don't lost the edits you're doing now... -MT2008 19:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Norinco SKS Sporter

Rosario Dawson doesn't have an SKS-D. She has a Norinco SKS Sporter which has the thumbhole stock and the shorter paratrooper barrel. the SKS-M is nearly identical but the ones marked "Sporter" have a slightly different thumbhole design (and which model she has exactly is hard to see because her hand is in the buttstock nearly all the time), but both the SKS-M and the "Norinco SKS Sporter" are thumbhole, paratrooper length barreled SKS designed to take factory AK mags, like the D model. The D Model is a standard full length SKS that takes AK mags. Frankly, I've never seen these in any real foreign warzone. Only at gunshows in the U.S. But the SKS-D was used by Chinese police alot in the 1980s and 1990s.

Blank revolvers

Don't know what you mean about the primers, but we don't adapt any revolvers to fire blanks. No need to. I have never had a problem with primers unless the loading process was messed up or the blanks were bad. Also recoil (too much or not enough) should have no effect on the primers. So I have fired hundreds of different revolvers with literally thousands of blanks (everything from .45 LC - .38 sp - 44 mag - .357 mag - .38 short - etc. etc. ) and never ran into any difficulty. What type of blanks were you firing? MPM

The Rundown

BTW, spectacular job on filling out the rest of the Rundown. Though (as expected per MY personal tastes) there are more screencaps than I would have done per gun, you really scoured that movie for every single solitary firearm in it. You caught guns that I didn't even know were in the film! Good job. MoviePropMaster2008 04:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Shootemup

I was just wondering. Why are the master screenshots so massive? 1062 pixels? on some of them. Didn't you used to edit master shots so that they were smaller? Just curious. MoviePropMaster2008 06:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Legends of the Fall

I corrected your discription of the weapons that Brad Pitt is carrying over his shoulder. The weapon is a Holland and Holland 10ga. Paradox used to hunt big game with 10 gauge slug. The barrels are smoth bores except for the final 2 inches before the muzzle were they are rifled. It is a rare weapon as most of which have been destroyed due over pressure from the unique design. I built the buttplate for that weapon as the wanted a brass buttplate on it. The weapon came form Ellis Mercantile- Phoenixent

I will check my old photo from Ellis to see if I have one. Holland and Holland were going to reissue the Paradox with different material for the barrels and new style rifling. The bullets were cast in the prop shop at Ellis using a pattern I made on the lathe and glued into original brass 10ga shells.

Street Kings

Hey,

I was just wondering if you'd be OK letting me add a few more shots to the Street Kings page. And I literally just mean a few:

  • (1.) Two more shots (good ones) of Tom Ludlow with his S&W 4506.
  • (2.) A better shot of Diskant with his Glock 17 when he and Tom go to the house where the real Fremont and Coates are buried.
  • (3.) A shot of the fake Fremont reaching for his own Glock (which looks to be another -17) when Tom kills him during the climactic shootout.

Would that be OK?

Also, I watched the scene again where Tom kills the Koreans, and as best I can tell, the S&W 4506's muzzle flashes are not digitally added. The gun cycles and ejects spent blanks, just as I would expect. --MT2008 18:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Tried to make it a little bit darker, but weirdly, I can't do it without really ruining the detail. Are you sure it matters if mine are a bit lighter? In daylight scenes, it's pretty hard to tell.
Got shots of the R9, as well as more of the armory guns (there are M4s as well as M16s in there). I still couldn't figure out what kind of shotgun Coates (Common) uses, or the Korean slaver. Your guesses are as good as mine. -MT2008 01:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


Unforgiven Shotgun

Hi

The Colt 1878 Shotgun you have listed for the show is incorrect. The shotgun is a 10 gauge supplied by Ellis Mercantile for the film. I will check tomorrow for the manufacturer and check for a photo of the shotgun for you. Nice job on the page I took care of all those weapons before the sale. - Phoenixent

Dust hit gun

It's called a Sweeney gun and I have used it. The best features of that gun are the constant air feed and the variable full auto fire mode. The Dust balls are basically clear transparent paint ball containers that are full of 'Fuller's earth'. I don't use the Sweeney gun. It's basically a really EXPENSIVE paintball gun. I opt to use a standard paintball gun myself and shoot much closer to the action, but don't tell anyone that. It's way cheaper. Also those dust balls are really expensive. (think about 2$ a shot) As are the "Sparking" balls. Special effects houses also make full glass balls (these are all the same size as paintballs) which are designed to shatter windows and then the glass balls shatter themselves, thus 'masking' the source of the shatter (good for people's houses that you don't like) and metallic balls which blow out Car windows. MPM

Review on Wanted

You asked me a long time ago to review your WANTED page, and I deferred, primarily because I glanced at it briefly and saw that it might have spoilers. Now that I have seen the film I went back to the page. You did a lot of hard work and it shows. Also I was a bit horrified at the sheer amount of spoilers in the page. I would never DELETE a photo of yours on a page you built, since that seems to be an unwritten rule. I WILL delete unnecessary photos on pages that I built. I am probably going to delete all pics of Kenneth Johnson from my Rambo page ... this guy was just the head propmaster. He wasn't the armorer and this guy doesn't know anything about guns. All the armorers I know are disgusted and he (being the glory hound that he is) insisted on doing the DVD Featurette commentary on guns. the real armorers aren't even mentioned, which disgusted me. Anyway, back to topic, I would request that you remove the pics of Cross dying in that it is a major spoiler. I fixed some of the written spoilers in that I think that the page doesn't suffer if we don't know the plot twists. Like revealing that Darth Vader is Luke's father, some of these points aren't necessary. I was actually really glad I avoided the page previously since I was actually surprised at the betrayal and truth. I was surprised who Cross really was and what his motivation was. I was surprised at Fox's true test of faith and sacrifice and I was happy at the comeuppance of Sloan (the decoy surprised me completely). The entire movie experience would have been ruined if I had all those plot twists spoiled for me. For people looking up the guns (who have seen the film already), the non-spoiler explanations are good enough and clearly show what guns were in the film. Anyway, that was my input and opinion. Other than my own gripes with spoilers in general, excellent work on the page. MoviePropMaster2008 07:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

watermark

excellent work on the watermark. It is a very attractive watermark. I tried a watermark already, once, and I didn't like how it looked in thumbnails. Who knows, I might start to like it in the future, but right now, I DO have hidden electronic tags in all my files (which a savvy tech person can remove, but it takes a level of skill that most pirates don't bother to develop). But I like the idea of the watermark for images I approve to be ALLOWED on other sites, like Wikipedia. As for IMFDB, I am content to (a) initially mark the files as copyrighted to IMFDB and also (b) have the invisible eletronic tags on the files themselves that outline ownership and license. Many high end programs can read this. the latest versions of Photoshop can read the electronic copyright on a file. BTW, that one wikipedia pirate got booted for stealing all those images from us at IMFDB, and he got banned.  :) MoviePropMaster2008 00:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up

Group message cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen1 I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is the definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) MoviePropMaster2008 04:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

some Westerns

Hey, I've been working on the pages for some Westerns and I heard you were the go-to guy on IMFDB for that sort of thing. I was wondering if you could look at my page for The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford and maybe see if there's anything I messed up. I figured it's your forte so if anyone would be able to fix it up, it would be you. Also I'm right now working on American Outlaws which has quite a number of Western guns as well, so I could let you know when I finish that and whenever you have time you might be able to check through and correct some of my inevitable errors haha. Thanks in advance - Speakeasy804

re: Boondock Saints

Dude, armory scenes in movies always suck to do on IMFDB. And the one in "Boondock Saints" is probably one of the worst, even worse than Hard Boiled or The Matrix. I have an AVI rip of that movie on my external HD, and I don't think I've even managed to ID everything in that scene yet myself. I know you've already one-upped me if you saw the M79, because I don't recall that one and I've only seen the movie like, oh, 50 times. (Trust me when I say that if you ever go to college in the Northeast, especially a college where the student body is mostly of Irish descent, you will be watching that movie on an extremely regular basis, not even by choice necessarily.) But, it sounds like you're working hard, so I applaud you for that.

As far as movies I plan to do, I'm trying to decide what to rent on iTunes right now that I haven't seen in a while (or not at all). I want to watch something tonight because I know I won't have time tomorrow (I'll be going to Houston and not getting back home until Sunday morning). I'm thinking about saving myself some money and working on two "gangsta" movies I used to like when I was in high school - Menace II Society and Belly. -MT2008 03:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey I was just watching The Boondock Saints and noticed a gun you didn't include. I'm watching a full-screen version sadly, but at roughly 00:18:51 movie time (This is when Agent Smecker is in the police station and the MacManus brothers turn themselves in) There's a shot where you get a very clear view of a revolver in a shoulder holster on Detective Greenly. I figured since you built the page you'd want to add the screen and all. Hope that helps. - Diego Wolfwood

Yeah no rush, just thought I'd let you know. - Diego Wolfwood

Titles starting with 'The' ....

I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of "The Shining" (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be "Shining, The". I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

(edit: I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think MT2008 had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Let me know what you think)  :)

Update on the new gun pics.... I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.MoviePropMaster2008 06:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Title change

Well we all can disagree on somethings, I've always hated how our listing alphabetized on "the" as a "T". I think that's just stupid, since nearly everyone ignores "The" when looking for a title. Libraries do it, Video stores do it and I get pissed when I look for "The Dark Knight" but instinctively look in the 'D' section and see nothing. I've hated it since I joined the site, but also recently I've shown this site to famous armorers, and when their first comment is "great site, but sorting by "the", that's stupid" was the motivation I had to get off my ass and fix it. Heck, Mike Papac hated it. So I will still change the titles. I think you will find it easier to find movie pages as well. Thanks for your understanding. MoviePropMaster2008 20:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


Winchester 1897

Hey John

I was working on that right now. The Trench Gun photo although it is nice was not correct for some of those films. Just trying to help out on correcting an error. Just taking time to do. Also I discovered that there was two different 1897 Trench guns on IMFDB as samples that was the on was better than the other. - Phoenixent

Hey John, I just checked the links on both images Riot Guns and Trench Guns and did not see any errors on the pages. The sample matched the screen caps on them if I missed one late last night I am sorry. - Phoenixent


Appaloosa

Hey John Since you are a Western Fan did you see this movie yet? When you do the page let me know as I built the 8 gauge for it and have photos for you. Also I got the okay to photograph the 10 gauge shotgun from Unforgiven will have them for you next week. The manufacturer of the shotgun is W. Richards originally owned by Ellis Mercantile and sold in 1999.

No problem John on the Win 97. Great job on the westerns as for the Lonesome Dove Series thats a lot of ground. I worked on the guns for the prequel and Streets of Laredo. The same prop department did both shows and he picked several guns that I can track down for you. I hope you like everything I have been posting so far. Thanks - Phoenixent
Hey John, Thanks for the heads up I posted a photo of the shotgun when I finished it. I also put a thread for the shotgun I am not sure if or when they will be used again as Gibbons Ltd. was sold to ISS at the end of last year. I took photos of the fabrication of these shotguns it was a cool project but as everything Hollywood it had to be done quick. -Phoenixent

Mr & Mrs Smith

You can go ahead and do it. You know I am just hoping you don't go crazy with the screencaps. YOU DO have an amazing ability to catch guns that I miss. I just had to prove that the Widow maker wasn't some existing launcher that was slightly modified, to another member. Also, I noticed that your recent Matrix shots are very big but are low resolution, so they look a little fuzzy. Were these done on another computer? Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008 03:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Matrix

Sorry. Didn't mean to slam Matrix pics so much. But I did notice the image size versus the file size and it was kinda low resolution. They didn't look bad, but remember when some of your screencaps were so awesome that I actually thought you had bought a Blu-ray machine! :) I uploaded some pics very similar to your screencaps for comparison. Maybe Matrix is a fuzzy movie (A Bridge Too Far was maddening since it seemed like the entire movie was filmed through a layer of gauze) I did notice that the Matrix shots are still a little 'squished'. Maybe its an optical illusion, but maybe they look fuzzier because they aren't as bright. For some reason, my screencapping software has bright output and (IMHO) a little sharper image. Let me know what you think. But I know you can do it since I've seen your bright screencaps before. :)

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BTW: you did an amazing job on the Matrix page. Especially with the Virtual Armory. MoviePropMaster2008 04:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Admins

FYI I am not for making any more people Admins until they've been on the site for a longer time. I'm not being weird about it, but we're seeing a lot of good contributors and unfortunately a lot of 'energetic but wrong' contributors. I want to give ALL new members a probation period to see how they work out. Also, I've noticed that some energetic new members are slowly changing the formats of pages, away from what the original Admins have been doing. MPM2008

Sure, no problem. He seems reasonable and listens to input from us Admins, which is a good thing. Also he is patient and doesn't fly off the handle, something we need more of, being that the Internet makes things more hostile than they really are... ! :) I was just making sure since we seem to be getting a lot more 'active' users, and some of them have 'uneven' accuracy histories. :) MPM

Speakeasy804

I just granted him sysop privileges - thanks for the recommendation, I think he's been a great contributor to the community. bunni 00:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for the recommendation, I greatly appreciate it! I've got a full list of movies lined up so I'll certainly be keeping myself busy! - Speakeasy804

Need your help here

Since YOU have the eagle eyes. I'm not sure WHAT the silenced pistols are that John Smith has. See the screenshots. They are definitely two toned guns with the lower grips black and the upper Stainless....

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Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)
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Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)

Here are the candidates that people suggested:

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Ruger Mk II - Silenced
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Ruger Mk III silenced - note the slight changes from the Mark II

What do you think? :) MoviePropMaster2008 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

You might get a kick out of this

Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.

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the handgun room

MoviePropMaster2008 21:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Quote on Mr & Mrs Smith

Who keeps on reverting my correction for John's quote? I played it five times to verify what he is saying, even though Pitt is mumbling when he speaks, he distinctly says "You should not be allowed to buy these things." I also turned on the closed caption as well to prove what the guy is saying. He never says anything about "kids".

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The Correct quote - what John Smith says after blowing up the shack.

Anyway, excellent work so far on the page. I noticed that you noticed too that there are NO good pics of the KTR rifle that Jane uses... :( MoviePropMaster2008 20:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Colt 25?

I'm asking you since you know a lot about older firearms. Isn't the Colt 25 as listed on IMFDB the same as the Colt Model 1908 Vest pocket? I think it's the same gun, but I wanted independent verification. I ask because I hate it when I shoot a custom pic for IMFDB (so as not to violate anyone's copyright) and other members STILL upload 'jacked' images off of Google of the SAME GUN, undoing the point of getting licensed images for IMFDB (versus violating someone else's copyright). Anyway I wanted to make sure that these were the same pistol. Thanks for your expertise. MPM http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_25 http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:Colt25.jpg http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket

Imagine if you will.......

Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)

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Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;)

MPM2008


Re: Sgt. York

Hey John, Thanks for the help on that I will go ahead and setup the pages that way. - Phoenixent

Hey John, Check out how I did on Sgt.York and let me know if I got it right.
Also what listing do you have a sample of this --M1911-- (substituting equal signs) that way I can take a look at it. - Phoenixent
Okay I think I got it. I added to the the description on the Luger and removed the link on the titles and the excess wording in the Luger photo. - Phoenixent