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:::(And you will notice how much easier it is for me to have a conversation about these guns when I am calling them "MP" and "MP-C" - hence my preference for giving them a name with variant distinctions). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 13:57, 16 January 2015 (EST)
:::(And you will notice how much easier it is for me to have a conversation about these guns when I am calling them "MP" and "MP-C" - hence my preference for giving them a name with variant distinctions). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 13:57, 16 January 2015 (EST)
::::Compare these two silhouette views:
::::[[Image:Viper-SMG-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Felcan MP.]]
::::[[Image:crying-freeman-UnknownSMG2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Felcan MP-C]]
::::See what I mean? You can tell that the top gun has a longer barrel and receiver than the bottom version. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 14:05, 16 January 2015 (EST)

Revision as of 19:05, 16 January 2015

Earlier discussions: User Talk:Ben41/Archive 1, User Talk:Ben41/Archive 2, User talk:Ben41/Archive 3, User talk:Ben41/Archive 4

White Tiger

Sorry, your last edit in Tiger I Tank section is a little incorrect. The exact replica of Tiger was build specially for filming, but due to some reasons it was completed too late and wasn't used, while the screen Tiger is a vismodded IS-2. So the caption for Belyy tigr-Tiger.jpg "Replica of the German Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger I tank which must was be used in the film" is correct, this image is of the proposed screen tank but not of the one that really appeared on screen. Greg-Z (talk) 08:03, 2 January 2015 (EST)

Yamakasi

I reupload screenshots and correct some ID. What I should doing now? Pyramid Silent (talk) 14:30, 13 January 2015 (EST)

OK, thanks! Pyramid Silent (talk) 14:13, 14 January 2015 (EST)

Adding "The World Wars (miniseries)", which is part documentary and part live-action sequences

Can the miniseries "The World Wars" be eligible to be added onto this site? Its part documentary from interviews of experts, but it also contains live action sequence depicting life in WWI and WWII with actors and all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Wars_%28miniseries%29

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3543006/

Timecop Custom Assault Pistol

Hey, I am glad you finally made a page for these guns. However, I am not sure that "Timecop Custom Assault Pistol" is a good name for them because as far as I can tell, Felcan Enterprises (the armory that owns the guns) built them long before Timecop. Those guns appeared in episodes of The X-Files and The Highlander (the 1992 TV series) before they were in Timecop.

I think we should just go ahead and give the guns a name. Since they were made by Tom Felcan's company, we should call them the "Felcan MP" or something like that. Also, keep in mind that there are two variants of the gun - long- and short-barreled versions. I propose that we call them "Felcan MP" and "Felcan MP-C". It will be a lot easier than writing out, "Timecop Custom Assault Pistol" for every page on which they appear. -MT2008 (talk) 13:08, 16 January 2015 (EST)

Also, a lot of the information you wrote in the summary is not correct. Tom Felcan used to have fake MP5Ks in their inventory, but those guns are a different type of weapon, and Felcan is a Canadian armory, so import restrictions in the U.S. are irrelevant. I will re-write the summary in a bit. Still, this is a good start, and I am glad we have a page for those guns now. -MT2008 (talk) 13:16, 16 January 2015 (EST)
You raise a good point - they could have been made for Timecop and used on those shows before filming on Timecop began. But I'm still skeptical because there are two versions of the gun, and only one version appears in Timecop (the short-barreled version). I doubt that they would have built two types of guns for the same movie if only one type actually appeared in the film, though I suppose it's not impossible. But I still suspect they were made for another sci-fi movie that we haven't seen yet.
I still think we should name the guns just so that we don't have to refer to them as "Timecop Custom Assault Pistol" constantly. It's too awkward to write out, and the guns have been in so many movies and TV shows that I think they qualify for a fictional name. Kinda like the way we refer to the rifles from Deep Rising as the M1-L1 (their name in that movie) on that weapon's page - and those guns were also built by Tom Felcan's armorers. -MT2008 (talk) 13:36, 16 January 2015 (EST)
Yeah, I realize you were following that convention, but this is a case where I think the name you chose would just be too awkward. Plus, the name on the page fails to distinguish between the two variants of the gun. As Stan and I agree, we need to have a name that makes it easy to distinguish between them.
Compare the two pictures that you posted - the short-barreled version is the one that appears in Crying Freeman, while the long-barreled version was in Smallville. Both guns use the same lower receiver and magazine well, but the long-barreled version (Felcan MP) has a front sight, which the short-barreled version (MP-C) lacks. The MP also seems to have a flash hider as standard, while the MP-C only has a MAC-10-style threaded barrel (though in Timecop, it has a custom barrel shroud). You can also see other distinctions - see how the front of the receiver on the MP has four elongated slits, while the MP-C has six holes? The back of the receiver on the MP is also longer than the MP-C.
(And you will notice how much easier it is for me to have a conversation about these guns when I am calling them "MP" and "MP-C" - hence my preference for giving them a name with variant distinctions). -MT2008 (talk) 13:57, 16 January 2015 (EST)
Compare these two silhouette views:
Felcan MP.
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Felcan MP-C
See what I mean? You can tell that the top gun has a longer barrel and receiver than the bottom version. -MT2008 (talk) 14:05, 16 January 2015 (EST)