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==Finally Answering your questions== | ==Finally Answering your questions== | ||
Sorry, but sometimes I miss the obvious! :) The AKM Pistol was one of several, I saw one with a painted bolt carrier. The one I photographed has a faded blued carrier. Don't know which variation was in which film. I think Mike's is the full auto gun, Harry's is the Semi auto pistol with a folding stock (Rambo 2008) registered as an SBR, but I'm not sure. So that's why I didn't mention if it was in anything or not, but I'm 100% sure that's the same type of gun. You asked previously if any of my M16s were from Iraq. That is unlikely for any armorer. All of the US Property marked M4s or M16s are being used or utilized by the military or national guard or given away to allied nations. All of our guns are lower receivers within the domestic chains of commerce, either pre-1986 transferable full auto lowers or post 86 dealer samples, none of which would be overseas or used by any government entity, whether military or law enforcement. Sometimes we "could" pick up a post 86 sample that was used by a non government entity (aka private party) like Blackwater Security in Iraq, but that's hypothetical and it hasn't happened. It's also funny that IMFDB tries to determine whether or not an M16 was the A2 or A3 variant. I don't know how some of the other rental houses get their stuff nowadays, but I would venture a guess that 95% of all the M4s or A4s are just commercially purchased barreled upper receivers, mounted on existing full auto A1 or A2 style lower receivers (built up and registered with ATF). I have rarely seen any 3 round burst guns in Movie armories, since no movie director ever uses it, so why spend the money on it. It's all smoke and mirrors and we build and rebuild guns all the time to make things look like the latest and greatest incarnation of the guns. I just converted a bunch of M16A1s into A4s for an film (spring 08) and then had to convert all of them BACK to A1 for a Vietnam movie. So most of the time it's a moot point. There are no | Sorry, but sometimes I miss the obvious! :) The AKM Pistol was one of several, I saw one with a painted bolt carrier. The one I photographed has a faded blued carrier. Don't know which variation was in which film. I think Mike's is the full auto gun, Harry's is the Semi auto pistol with a folding stock (Rambo 2008) registered as an SBR, but I'm not sure. So that's why I didn't mention if it was in anything or not, but I'm 100% sure that's the same type of gun. You asked previously if any of my M16s were from Iraq. That is unlikely for any armorer. All of the US Property marked M4s or M16s are being used or utilized by the military or national guard or given away to allied nations. All of our guns are lower receivers within the domestic chains of commerce, either pre-1986 transferable full auto lowers or post 86 dealer samples, none of which would be overseas or used by any government entity, whether military or law enforcement. Sometimes we "could" pick up a post 86 sample that was used by a non government entity (aka private party) like Blackwater Security in Iraq, but that's hypothetical and it hasn't happened. It's also funny that IMFDB tries to determine whether or not an M16 was the A2 or A3 variant. I don't know how some of the other rental houses get their stuff nowadays, but I would venture a guess that 95% of all the M4s or A4s are just commercially purchased barreled upper receivers, mounted on existing full auto A1 or A2 style lower receivers (built up and registered with ATF). I have rarely seen any 3 round burst guns in Movie armories, since no movie director ever uses it, so why spend the money on it. It's all smoke and mirrors and we build and rebuild guns all the time to make things look like the latest and greatest incarnation of the guns. I just converted a bunch of M16A1s into A4s for an film (spring 08) and then had to convert all of them BACK to A1 for a Vietnam movie. So most of the time it's a moot point. There are no distinctive A2s or A3s or C7s, or at least we can't tell from the rate of fire since most of the guns are "Build ups". All M16s in inventory go full auto or semi auto only. (that's as far as I've seen and I've handled and inspected literally one hundred movie M16/AR15 variants, including carbines, 9mms, fake XM177s, A1s, A2s, M4s, A4s). So I wonder, how do we reconcile the difference between the real world and the movie world? I think we should keep on doing as we are doing. Designate the difference between the A2s and A3s (etc) since that's correct in the real world and (whether intentional or not) that's what's being represented in the movies, but be aware that most of the guns are just dressed up A1s. Sorry for the longwinded post. Didn't mean to ramble. Have a happy new year [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
BTW, I'm tickled (again) that IMFDB is the only place on the net to have a pic of this gun. :) | BTW, I'm tickled (again) that IMFDB is the only place on the net to have a pic of this gun. :) (edit)(BTW: I will photograph a C7 for the site soon just to complete the M16 series) | ||
Revision as of 20:19, 3 January 2009
Hi , there is a kid name Brady94 or something that keeps changing the images from H&K UMP, I asked him twice to stop doing it and he doesn´t understand , so if you could protect this image or ask him yourself because the images that he uploads are lousy ones compare to the pictures of moviepropmaster thanks.Gerry
Absolutely 18th C. weapons are fine - I even set up an anime section for fantasy weapons. I should be the one thanking you for helping me build the site! bunni 06:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
You're quite welcome for the WotW help. As for the M16A2 and the Mk 19, the convoy scene should help. I believe one of the humvees (with the gunner wearing sunglasses instead of goggles) has the Mk 19 and the truck full of soldiers (one of which shouts to Robbie that he's gonna get run over) should be bristling with M16A2's. The hilltop battle scene would be another place to check for M16A2's if the convoy yields no results. Orca1 9904 18:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'm afraid the gun you posted as an M16A2 from WotW is another M4A1 carbine. Note the short foregrip. Orca1 9904 00:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- There you go, that's more like it. :) Orca1 9904 01:01, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
DSA-58OSW
I'm pretty sure that gun you posted from RE:Apocalypse is a DSA-58OSW, a FAL clone made by DS Arms, not a SCAR CQC.
Scarface
Wow, nice job on Scarface - I just found it while browsing around the site! :) bunni 04:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Beretta pistol SNAFU
Thank you for helping to clear up the mess reguarding the Beretta M92F and Beretta 93R pages. Orca1 9904 00:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Just a reminder
Just wanted to make sure you knew about the new category Bunni implemented for screenshots, and that the tag for them should be posted in the description of each applicable pic. Orca1 9904 19:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Aircraft-mounted Lewis Gun images
Do you think you could find a non-screenshot image of the aircraft-mounted Lewis Gun like in Image:PDVD 081.jpg? That's the same machine gun mounted on the biplanes in the climax of King Kong, and an image of that weapon would greatly add to the article. Orca1 9904 21:10, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- Disreguard, just saw that there was such an image on the The Mummy page. Orca1 9904 21:22, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Congrats!
Your Scarface page was featured on gorillamask.net and uniquedaily.com today - over 3,000 hits in the last few hours, I'll update you with the total number of viewers it receives. As a side note you should keep an eye on it for the next few days to erase any vandalism. Best, Chris. bunni 02:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Blocking Users
WikiSysop is me, bunni - I just don't make edits with the admin account so I don't screw anything up to bad. I perma blocked one guy for vandalism - post their ip's to my talk page and I'll give them the boot. The scarface page hit ebaumsworld so we're getting a ton of new traffic, 14,000 hits and counting in the last 12 hours - good thing I upgraded the server. :)
Adding Admins
I'm all for that, you and orca are the only ones I'd trust with admin status though. Let me know if you're up for it and I'll figure out how to upgrade your accounts. bunni 00:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Digg
I submitted the Saving Private Ryan page to Digg - can you digg it? http://digg.com/movies/A_visual_guide_to_the_guns_of_Saving_Private_Ryan bunni 18:29, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Page Redirection
If you could provide me with an email address or other secure means of communication I would be happy to tell you. Sorry for the covertness, just want to keep that knowledge from falling into the hands of vandals who might use it for malicious purposes. Orca1 9904 21:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Funny...
I was watching Goldmember on Fox last night, checked the site to see if anyone had done a page on it, was sad that no one had, then I woke up this morning and there it was. lol bunni 16:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Sin City
Go ahead and edit the screenshots and page - I'm sure a couple of those are Colt Pythons... and I'm guessing Bruce Willis's is a large S&W... but I am at a total loss on revolvers in general. bunni 20:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Call for screenshots
I was wondering if you or Bunni could help add some screenshots to some of the film & game articles I've made? I'm only limited to images I've been able to scour off the internet, which sadly isn't much. Any help you two could provide would be greatly appreciated. Orca1 9904 21:55, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Image:AA3_Handgun.jpg
Just looked at the pic of Mini Me with the unknown handgun, and it looks like some sort of Glock or a clone thereof. Orca1 9904 01:23, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
American History X
Thanks for Editing the American History X page. My English sentences are not that good, so that is at least one thing you could help me with... ;-) And about the credits: I just made the screenshots... You came up with all the names, so I think it should be your name on that page.
Sorry I didn't reply earlier on your message on my 'Talk': It was 7.35 a.m. here, so I was quite tired :-P
Vinniebar 17:19, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Picture
It's Timothy Olyphant... :-P
Vinniebar 19:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
You're now a Sysop, Congrats!
Thanks for all your efforts so far, I finally got the chance to research how to set user privileges and made both you and Orca Sysops. You can now ban users, delete and undelete pages, and revert pages to previous versions. Thanks much! Best, Chris WikiSysop 23:31, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Re: Good News.
Awesome, go for it man. :) Orca1 9904 01:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
BB2 G36K
It's only visible for a split second but one of the DEA agents Syd works with who is involved in the chase can be seen holding one in the Ford Bronco. I belive it's during the part where the Haitians are dumping cars off the hijacked semi truck. Orca1 9904 23:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Screenshot Help?
I was wondering, do you know how to get screenshots with InterVideo WinDVD? I'd like to try to get some screenshots of my own, but don't know how with this program. Orca1 9904 00:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Re: Is this it?
Negative, that's a G36C, note the carry handle design. Orca1 9904 00:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Re: Screenshot Help
I'm afraid I don't see anything like that on my program. I'll ask Bunni if he can help. By the way, is it me, or does Bad Boys II have more guns than any other film on this site thus far? Orca1 9904 01:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Re: Question
Just trying to keep the articles in a type of uniform order with the pics of the guns above the screenshots showing them. Hope that's not a problem? Orca1 9904 05:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Re: Thanks
No problem at all. Your Dawn of the Dead article actually helped me ID one of the guns in Die Another Day, namely the Smith & Wesson Model 15 revolver Bond uses in Cuba. Took one look at it and was immediately reminded of the one from your article. Orca1 9904 13:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Re nice call
Yea the PA8 is a unique gun, it almost is a Franchi Spas 12 minus a few addons. I'm still working on the unknown guns fron V for Vendetta, Dawn of the Dead, and Mr.& Mrs Smith. Just let me know if there are others.--Gunner313 17:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
two movie requests
You should add Miami Vice (new movie) to the list. Miami Vice has a lot of different guns. And a page needs to be made for Swordfish. Mabye three movies, Smokin Aces has a lot of gun play as well.--Gunner313 04:55, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Underworld MP5 ID?
Are you sure that's the A2 version of the MP5 being used in Underworld? That one screenshot shows what looks like an MP5A3-style telescoping stock vs. the MP5A2's fixed stock. Orca1 9904 01:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Awesome work on Lethal Weapon 4
Great work on the Lethal Weapon 4 screenshots so far. Feel free to fill in any weapons and details I missed, as I haven't actually seen the film in a while and only put in what I could recall from memory. Orca1 9904 05:12, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Lethal Weapon 4 mystery pistol
Can you ID the silver pistol in this screenshot and who's using it? Orca1 9904 06:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
M41A Pulse Rifle Info
Heya, I noticed you're starting a page on Aliens, and thought you might find this interesting.
Seems like there were components of three different real-world guns used to make the Space Marines' M41A Pulse Rifles. Also I believe the Heckler & Koch VP70 makes an appearance in there somewhere. Orca1 9904 00:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Re: Aliens
That flamethrower looks like it might have some M16 in it, most notably the carry handle/rear sight assembly. Orca1 9904 01:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- Also looks like it's got an M203 handguard on it. Orca1 9904 02:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Miami Vice Id
I try and identify any gun you want. Miami vice has a lot of different guns in it.
Miami Vice
Yes that will be fine.--Gunner313 21:43, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Miami Vice Sniper Rifle
I think this might be the sniper rifle from Miami Vice (2006), let me know what you think. Orca1 9904 05:17, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Re: Identification
Afraid not man, sorry. Can't make out any of the markings on it, and the casing doesn't match anything I'm familiar with. Orca1 9904 08:35, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Re: King Kong
Thanks a lot man, I appreciate it. I'm presently watching Clear and Present Danger and working on that page as I type this. Orca1 9904 22:08, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you
I just saw the work you did on King Kong (2005), and wanted to thank you for the excellent job you did with the screenshots. If you could help me with the Patriot Games article I'm currently working on I'd greatly appreciate it. It's presently airing on Spike TV as part of a Harrison Ford marathon they're running tonight. Orca1 9904 01:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Re: Thanks
I'm afraid I've got no idea what kind of gun that is, other than some sort of field artillery gun. Orca1 9904 01:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Instant messenger?
Just out of curiousity, do you have any kind of instant messaging program so we could chat in real-time? I'm on AIM and YIM. Orca1 9904 01:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Re: Instant Messenger
My AIM ID is bassmas314. Be sure to identify yourself when you IM me so I don't mistake you for a spammer. Orca1 9904 02:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Link for you
Heya, here's a link to some info about the Calico M960. Orca1 9904 06:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Re: Spam
Affirmative. Spam identified and terminated as per standard operating procedures. Orca1 9904 00:52, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
my user page
lol - those were some silly edits on my user page, thanks for taking care of them. bunni 17:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Re:M16A3
How do you know it is a A3 the only difference between the A3 and A2 is the trigger group. From a distance both models look the same.--Gunner313 16:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Need ID for SoaP pistols
Just saw some semi-auto pistols at the start of Snakes on a Plane being used by Eddie Kim's henchmen but I couldn't ID them. They were seen with and without silencers. Any help would be appreciated. Orca1 9904 00:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Pistol ID Needed
Hey, do you think you could ID this pistol? I was browsing still images from The World Is Not Enough on IMDB and came upon this pic:
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Orca1 9904 20:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Response from an anoymous user: I believe that the handgun in that picture is a Smith and Wesson 5906.
Special Request
You wrote: I also want to know if you can do me a favor, if you can upload a picture of a Remington 870 with Ghost Ring Sights and a High Capacity Tube like the one in the screenshot below for the Dawn of the Dead (2004) page, I would greatly appreciate it, and great work so far.
Sure. I have a dozen Remington 870s set up for films, but none in that variation, but I will ask around to the other Weapons wranglers and see who has one like the one you're looking for. I will be taking shots of my 870s in the standard police and police folding stock versions. I will also try to get a pic of the 870 that Linda Hamilton actually used in T2. But a lot of the guns are used in a film and then retrofitted to look different for another movie. Thanks for the compliment. I sure would like people to see that IMFDB has REAL pics of REAL movie guns and not just copies of pics from Gun sites or (worse!) Airsoft pics. You know it DOES cost me money to get pics of some of those particular guns from famous movies .... I have to take the armorer who worked on the specific movie OUT to a nice lunch! hahahaha.
I am also pretty shocked that you, Orca, MT and others are so damned young! Y'all are just kids! But you have an IMPRESSIVE array of knowledge and wisdom and maturity for your years! I can tell you now, that you guys act more mature than tons of guys who are old enough to be your dads! .....MoviePropMaster2008
Looks like another spammer
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Template:GFDL Don't know what this guy is trying to do, but at any rate, a complete page in another language is verboten.
Armageddon screenshots
Thanks a lot for providing screenshots for Armageddon! I only have the movie on VHS so wasn't able to get any images myself. You did a wonderful job, and really helped the article a lot. Keep up the awesome work, man! :) Orca1 9904 19:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
Gunmaster45
Thanks, you're screen shots are good too. Keep up the good work.
- I read your guns held, do you have any pictures of it so someone could I.D. it here. I got some major gunsmith bibles with just about every gun ever made and even if I can't I.D. it by sight, I'd have that book. Or is it a case of you held it a long time ago and couldn't remember it if you tried? Let me know, I'd love to help.
Re: Screenshot Help By the way, is it me, or does Bad Boys II have more guns than any other film on this site thus far? Orca1 9904 01:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Now my Last Action Hero and Hollow Point pages have it beat. Cool!
- Distict B13 has tied with Hollow Point. Both have 37. But if I had sorted all the guns on the wedding table section, I'd have had him beat. I guess the most gun heavy movies are the ones no one hears of or hasn't in a long time. Last Action Hero is a great movie, 34 guns, but no one really even knows about it.
- Let's see how my Hard Boiled page turns out once I get back to work on it. I realize it doesn't have either of those pages beat yet, but every time I watch that movie, I see another type of gun in it that I didn't notice before. I'm willing to bet that it could have even District B13 beat once I finish the page.
Re: Thanks
My computer was recently so dark I couldn't have seen it myself, but I turned the brightness up recently so I could see what the hell was going on. I could tell the 2nd shotgun was a Wincehster 12 because my dad just got one to fix in the shop and I had just been looking at a book that showed the bottom of the shotgun, which looked indentical to the shot in the movie. Thanks for complementing my Toy Soldiers page. I actually bought it off Ebay just to screencap it. I had seen it on TV and wanted to put it on the site because I thought it was cool. I'm actually just about to upload Heartbreak Ridge page, so you can check that out soon. Keep up the good work. -Gunmaster45
Re:Hey
Oh, don't worry, I don't really want to "compete" or anything for most screenshots in a movie. But it must be said that Hard Boiled really does have a ridiculous number of different types of firearms, so once I get a new computer that's actually capable of playing DVDs without slowing down, I can get back to work on that. That, and the fact that making arrangements to move to Texas are proving rather difficult, are the reasons I keep delaying my work on the page.
You are right...I really should get the Boyz n the Hood and Belly pages re-done. I still have the screenshots I took before the Great Crash, and there aren't that many guns in either movie, so it's something I could get done.
- Wait, so you're one of the mods? And Orca, too? Whew! You know, for a while, I've thought this site's been going without any mods, because I see Bunni and Wykiscop (errr, I know I butchered that) so rarely. That's so odd that I just thought you guys were regular users like myself. Goes to show how behind I am...
- Yeah, I'm still trying to fix up the Beretta page. Is there a way to do breaks after each section for the different variants? I know there is in Wikipedia, but I couldn't get the same thing to work here. The Beretta page still needs some work, so does the SIG P220 series page, and the M1911 page is basically a disaster right now! Also, I did see your Shooter page - nice work! Sadly, I sold my Taurus PT92, which was a very old one (wood grips and no third position decocker) many years ago to pay for my AK, and now my S&W 4506 is my only pistol. I like Berettas and Tauruses, but I only prefer the Taurus slightly because I think the safety is in a better position (you can reach it with your thumb more easily than the Beretta).
Re:MGS4 M1911A1
Thanks, I wish I had one too. I hope to buy one soon but I'm unemployed and money is a big factor. I've got about $200 now, I'm half way there. I worship the 1911 from the 3rd game and hope to one day make one based on what is said in the game. The Uber 1911. I just wanted the code unless I get one anytime in the future.
Re:Nice Job
I can do those little pages day after day, it's the big movies that take a weekend to do. I'll take care of the other two Jurassic Parks sometime this week, I have the Rambos, Unforgiven, the other Sergio Leone westerns and a lot more on my list. -GM
870
Per your request: That looks like a Remington 870 but the rear ghost ring sights look like Mossberg 590 style sights. Weird. I can get a Remington 870 with Ghost ring sights, but the sights I've seen don't look like Ving Rhames' gun. Have you found any shot on the web of the exact configuration that he has? Or did their armorer just put Mossberg Sights on a remington? MPM2008
Check out the vandal
Some moron is now vandalizing the Commando Page. His last comment when i said 'not to delete page contents and replace them with gibberish' was "It's fun. Good luck". But he changes his IP address every time.
Beretta
Hi,
This is kinda minor, but just so you know...the Beretta 92FS is not spelled "M92FS", "M92F", or "92 FS" (with a space between the '92' and 'FS'). It's exactly as I've spelled it: Beretta 92FS. Sorry to be nitpicky, but you know, that's what we're here for.
- It looks awesome now! I actually have the trilogy on DVD and have thought about screencapping this movie (and the first) for a while, but like a lot of things, I never seem to get around to it. But...that's OK, cause you've done a fine job yourself!
- One thing I should point out is that you might want to take a screencap of the end when Simon's men are all grabbing MP5Ks out of the crates before they try to flee the cops. I remember all of the MP5Ks in that particular scene being Daisy BB replicas of MP5Ks, and I figured that might be worth pointing out.
- Appreciated!
Admin rights
I've re-added you as a Sysop - are you still having trouble banning people? WikiSysop 06:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Post the error you're receiving and I can work back from that, do you know if Orca is having any issues? bunni 03:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Re: Admin Rights
I was unable to terminate the specified spammer, recieved the following error message:
Database error From imfdb :. guns in movies :. movie guns :. the internet movie firearms database Jump to: navigation, search A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "Block::insert". MySQL returned error "1054: Unknown column 'ipb_by_text' in 'field list' (localhost)".
Orca1 9904 05:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
What user?
I haven't been able to find a cause of the error. What user are you trying to ban? It may be the same issue we're having with non-english characters in the articles... also, create a new account and I will give that account admin privileges and we can see if it's something tied to the transfer of the accounts to the new server. bunni 03:31, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Tyrann now admin
Try out the other account and let me know the results on my bunni account WikiSysop 19:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Re: Bad Boys II P226
Yeah, I suppose we should, just because MPM2008 went to the trouble of taking the picture and it would be a shame not to use it. Especially if it's a more accurate representation of the gun that Lawrence uses in the film.
Beretta M92FS
Don't know if this is good enough. Let me know. I was trying to find one with a Pietro Beretta marking on the slide, but a lot of mine have Beretta USA marked on the slide. If it's not good enough, then I'll keep on looking for one that's not all beat up with a Pietro Beretta marked slide. Alot of our Berettas are heavily customized.
- Hey, Alienqueen, now that we have our own genuine 92F picture courtesy of MoviePropMaster, do you want to start replacing the Beretta image that we've been using since the site was started? Last I checked, we have over 100 pages linking to the old Beretta image, so it might take a while, but I think it's worth our while to phase out older images taken from other sites, and replace them with MPM's images.
- BTW, to answer your question: There is pretty much zero difference between American-made 92Fs and Italian-made guns besides the markings. There are some internal differences between the original 92F and the 92FS, however, but I don't think it's terribly relevant for the purposes of this site.
RE: Dawn of the Dead
Feel free to remove them or add some of the info to the descriptions. -GM
Re:
Probably for the better...unfortunately, I'm not so good with shotguns (I have trouble telling Mossberg 500s apart from 590s, for instance). -MT2008
- Only thing is, I'm a bit worried, because isn't it going to fuck up all the links on movie/TV/game pages that go to the Beretta page? It's kind of a bad situation when you've got a page that's got so many other pages linked to it. Is there any way to find a list of pages that link directly to the Beretta 92F page?
- Also, I agree with you that people should not put links to gun pages in the titles. It looks really bad, and personally, I like pages to look clean and neat. -MT2008
- Oh, yeah, and I didn't realize you could delete stuff? Can I give you some other pages to delete? As well as images?
- Hmmm, maybe I'll do it later. But right now, here are some pages that need to go, because the users who made them didn't check carefully enough to make sure that other pages existed, or because they just weren't relevant to IMFDB:
- http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Mossberg_500_Bullpup_shotgun
- http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_silence_of_the_lambs
- http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Diamonds_are_Forever
- http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Licence_to_Kill
- http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Terrorists
- http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Top_Ten_Combat_Rifles
- http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Boondock_Saints
- http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun
- http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Heckler_%26_Koch_HK41
- Also, the talk page for the SIG SG 551 page you deleted is still there, so you might wanna ditch that, too. -MT2008
- Awesome! Will do. But it looks you've got a good start so far. -MT2008
- Thanks! Like I said, I will get around to it, though not tonight. -MT2008
- If I were you, I'd go ahead and just add a lock on MPM2008's images to be safe. But then again, considering this user has openly defied you and doesn't seem to be contributing much of use to IMFDB, you could also just ban him for being a nuisance. -MT2008
- Good call. It sucks when we have to do stuff like that, but I think it's a necessary evil at the moment. -MT2008
Is it everyone you can't block? Or only people with weird characters in their names? bunni 22:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hah! Try it out - I think I fixed it. bunni 22:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
WTF?
I leave for a few days and all Hell breaks loose! hahaha ;) What was going on? I think someone was being careless with image overwrites. I guess now I'm a mod, though I will pretty much only have time to protect images (and the occasional banning of a vandal, but only if I'm 100% sure). ;) You guys did a great job of reverting pics, many times BEFORE I even noticed it myself! :) That was pretty seamless and invisible support, but I suppose that it got tiresome for you guys. I guess I won't have to complain to a mod if I see more vandalism on the site. Thanks. I do like the ability to edit the uploaded images. MoviePropMaster2008
edit: I still can't figure why someone would overwrite an image that was SHOT for IMFDB with a 'stolen' shot from the net. Weird.
870
As for the DOTD 870 I would have to get Mossberg ghost ring sights and PUT them on an 870, which is what I'm pretty sure the armorer did. I don't have ANY mossberg sights and currently aren't ready to spend the $$ to pick them up, but I will try to get someone with both to do us the favor and swap them for a pic. I'm pretty sure that will do it for the page. :) Will keep that on the list of things to do. MoviePropMaster2008
Finally Fixed! I swear this time!
OK - I think I got it - try banning now. WikiSysop 03:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Re: Good news
Excellent! Nice to be rid of that dude finally. I dunno what his problem was, anyway.
I appreciate the nomination for mod, but I must warn you that I'm not sure I can be all that helpful. I'm working 40 hrs. a week now, and I usually don't post from my computer at work. So it's kinda hard for me to keep watch on this site regularly like I could have done when I was still in college. -MT2008
- Oh, I'll most def accept it, provided Bunni's OK with it. I'm sure I can help out to some degree even if I can't always be on the site. I just thought I'd give you a heads-up. -MT2008
Requests
Okay, I'll get to it when I can.
Screencaps
One thing I'd recommend...for now, we should leave the movie screencaps up, but only if they're ones that haven't been replaced by better ones on their pages. Choi's shots from The Killer, for instance, are worth keeping. I'll put them on the page when I get around to it. MT2008 05:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think so. I'm guessing some of these images may have been uploaded for pages that were lost in the Great Crash. MT2008 05:09, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yep, that would be a good idea. And wow...between the two of us, we've REALLY put a serious dent in the number of unused images that were in circulation. Unfortunately, as I'm discovering, there are still some users who uploaded images of guns we already have JUST for their own pages - the Chaos page was a good example before I edited it. We're gonna have to watch out for stuff like that, too - unnecessary images of guns that appear on only one page. It looks like user Mmanalang did this quite frequently - I'm gonna have to work on his Revolver page a bit, too. -MT2008 05:15, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Re:Jaws
Go for it, I don't own it. I only added stuff to the page because I saw it on TV. If you do do it though, don't forget to cut out any widescreen bars and gets some nice shots of Sheider shooting his guns, because his current pic on his page is mediocre at best. -GM
Finally got my CLASSIC 870 police shotgun
Got brand new wood for it, since the existing wood was beat to crap... I don't remember if you asked for this or not. MPM2008
4 brothers HK41
Uh, that's not an HK41. the 41 was the early precursor to the HK91 and fires the .308 round. That's a 223 magazine. that's an HK33.MoviePropMaster2008 07:26, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- Someone else put down that it was an HK41, long before AlienQueen. I hadn't seen this movie in a while and couldn't remember what it was myself, but I doubted it was an HK41. -MT2008 18:28, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Database Error
I just tried to access the article for The Beast of War and got some kind of database error. Think you & Bunni could take a look at it and find out what's wrong? Orca1 9904 21:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
Thanks
Thanks for recommending me as an admin. to bunni. I really like being an admin. Check out my Leone trilogy sometime. That's a fistful of dollars, for a few dollars more, and the good the bad and the ugly if you don't know. I finally got them done. -GM
- Nice work with Four Brothers, btw.
New pics
Thanks. I try to please. I will be shooting a a3 and A4 as well as a Diemaco soon. I really want to start replacing all of the Colt commando and 653 pics when I can. I got better versions of all these guns and as you probably can tell, I've started taking all my pics with a Nikon Digital camera instead of shooting with a film camera and scanning the pics (some of the older ones were that "old School" way). The Digital camera sure makes a difference. MoviePropMaster2008 20:07, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you much! :)
I explained my lighting set up to GM45 (you can check it out on his talk page), but it seems pretty complicated, but not so much once it's already set up. But thanks anyway. 99.999999% of the gun pics on the net SUCK! (also they're probably not public domain which is why IMFDB should try to replace as many of the copyrighted images as soon as possible). I just wonder if anyone notices (other than GM, MT, you and the other heavy duty mods/contributors), i.e. people who just visit IMFDB. So far I haven't seen any of my images pirated on other sites, so that's a good thing. :) hahaha. I replaced one of my older M4 pics with a new one done with the new digital camera... It's one with aftermarket Rails but it's an iconic M4 image that we didn't have a good one of. I will also try to do the LE version and one with an M203, more like Thomas Jane's version in "the PUnisher". MoviePropMaster2008 20:48, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Luger P08
Hahahaha. I finally posted a pic of one of the Lugers we have in inventory. Apparently this is one of the Luger P08s used on the Television show "Hogan's Heroes" in the 1960s. It sure is beat up. Though that info is third hand is the only reason I don't post it because I don't have the info directly from the source. The Barrel was replaced about 20 years ago for some reason, which is why the finish doesn't match. It's a bit of TV history, thought you'd get a kick out of it. :) MoviePropMaster2008 23:07, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Best of War
Fixed the page - the issue is with non-english language characters, the database is having an issue with them... I'm still trying to find a solution to that as it seems to be configured correctly... bunni 03:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Assault on Precinct 13
Hey, have you seen the special feature from the Assault on Precinct 13 (2005) DVD where Charles Taylor (the movie's armorer) shows off the guns used in the movie? Dunno if you've thought of this already, but you should screencaps from that and use them on the page, just as GunMaster did for the Bad Boys page. -MT2008 02:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- I should get rid of those pics tho, the armorer was actually showing guns similair to the ones in the film. I only realized this after I had finished uploading them. Shooter had a similair special featture.
- I have a lot of stuff to do tonight so I'll do it tommorow anyway, you starting AOP13 just help give me the extra boost to say "aw, f#@% it". -GM
To Alienqueen11.
I belive I am not aware of vandilising any articles. Maybye it was an edit I made that has been mis-classified as vandilism? I have made an article on Stormboy, which I wasnt sure on due to the fact its a kids movie.
Ultraussie 03:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
NOTE: Now I remember that ive edited Die Another Day article with vandilism. Please dis-regard my previous message.
Ultraussie 03:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Tears of the Sun
Nice job chopping off the widescreen bars, it needed that. I did that with Quigley Down Under, and I don't want to do it again after that. Training Day, Rambo: First Blood, and Hostage (2005) need similair treatment. -GM
Check it out
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
MoviePropMaster2008 01:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.
Hostage
Thanks, it looks much better but you missed one or two of them. How come the Beretta still has black bars but is squished now? -GM
- You missed one of the USP Expert shots. I always thought if they got all distorted that I did the upload wrong, now I knwo. Thanks for fixing it. It looks far better now. -GM
Request
I'll keep it in mind. I usually do a bunch of handguns at once, and then a bunch of Rifles at once because I have to shift and adjust the entire lighting setup to do each size. I've done a bunch of images that I haven't uploaded yet, because I want to edit out the plastic pegs holding up the guns in the photographic table. Edit: Some of the Berettas don't interswap. I tried it once. I'll try it amongst a variety of models to see what fits. I've noticed that some different finishes have different tolerances between the frame and the slide. Again I will add that to my long list of things to do.
hehehehe. Here's a weird one. I saw this WAAAAAAYYY in the back of the vault. Figured someone would be interested in it. ;)
Too bad no one uses them for films...
mystery gun
hahaha sorry for being unclear and confusing with my file naming nomenclature :) . That's not an FG421. The file name is actually supposed to be FG42 1st pattern. It's a FG 42 aka Fallschirmjäger Gewehr 42 - the full sized assault rifle that fired the 7.92 Mauser round, used by Fallschirmjäger (German Paratroopers) in World War 2. It's so rare that few people have one. I missed an opportunity to get the 2nd pattern one, and now I'm kicking myself for missing that opportunity. I could have had both versions. MoviePropMaster2008 04:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Widescreen Movies
Two in need of fixing are MT2008's Training Day and The Replacement Killers pages, since they are on the main page. Other than my Rambo: First Blood page, I think that's it. Not to bug you or anything, I just thought I'd let you know. -GM
The Dark side of movie guns
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. MoviePropMaster2008 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Smokin' Aces
I don't own it but next time I go out, I'll buy it. My to-do list is sky-high and if I keep buying movies, I'll never bring it down. This is what is in my pile now.
- The Whole Nine Yards/The Whole Ten Yards DVD double featture
- Unforgiven
- Young Guns
- The Last Boyscout
- Mr. & Mrs. Smith (unrated cut)
- Starsky & Hutch
- Daredevil (director's cut)
- Supertroopers
- 30 Days of Night
- Speed
- The Dirty Dozen
- Flags of our Fathers
- The Jackal
- Absolute Power
- The Thin Red Line
- Tango & Cash
- Blazing Saddles
As you can see, I'm trying not to make it any bigger until it is a least half done. But I can add one more I suppose. Almost done with Crank, than I'll do Speed, 30 Days of Night, and the Whole Yards movies. Fun. Gunmaster45 04:08, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Happy Thanksgiving
Hope you're eating well :) regards 76.199.198.193 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail
Don't know what your thougts are on this but I posted the message below:
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. It's a bottle with gasoline in it. It's not manufactured or crafted, like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.
Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.
Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.
Since the page was made and effort was put into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO
MoviePropMaster2008 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.
The page on IMDFB. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi
Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode) http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf
Your thoughts are appreciated. MoviePropMaster2008 08:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
The Dark Knight
Thanks man, I'll get working on it soon. I was just starting when I saw gunny was adding shots. I stopped and started on Mail Call. Once I finish saving those shots, I'll get my DVD on. - Gunmaster45
Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page?
Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time Excalibur01
I can't be nice anymore
Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. Excalibur01 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I wnat to be a mod
I've already requested to be a mod of the forums, though that place isn't as popular of talk as I thought, so I mind as well be one here Excalibur01 02:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
My airsoft
So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. Excalibur01 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Heckler & Koch UMP
I'm sorry for the picture changes I just think it would be better if I could have a same replica of a UMP 45 and a UMP 9 to show how close and what the difference is. If you don't want it fine i'll just upload on other guns.
Got it, finally :)
Now I will be updating with this pic. :) MoviePropMaster2008 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Finally Answering your questions
Sorry, but sometimes I miss the obvious! :) The AKM Pistol was one of several, I saw one with a painted bolt carrier. The one I photographed has a faded blued carrier. Don't know which variation was in which film. I think Mike's is the full auto gun, Harry's is the Semi auto pistol with a folding stock (Rambo 2008) registered as an SBR, but I'm not sure. So that's why I didn't mention if it was in anything or not, but I'm 100% sure that's the same type of gun. You asked previously if any of my M16s were from Iraq. That is unlikely for any armorer. All of the US Property marked M4s or M16s are being used or utilized by the military or national guard or given away to allied nations. All of our guns are lower receivers within the domestic chains of commerce, either pre-1986 transferable full auto lowers or post 86 dealer samples, none of which would be overseas or used by any government entity, whether military or law enforcement. Sometimes we "could" pick up a post 86 sample that was used by a non government entity (aka private party) like Blackwater Security in Iraq, but that's hypothetical and it hasn't happened. It's also funny that IMFDB tries to determine whether or not an M16 was the A2 or A3 variant. I don't know how some of the other rental houses get their stuff nowadays, but I would venture a guess that 95% of all the M4s or A4s are just commercially purchased barreled upper receivers, mounted on existing full auto A1 or A2 style lower receivers (built up and registered with ATF). I have rarely seen any 3 round burst guns in Movie armories, since no movie director ever uses it, so why spend the money on it. It's all smoke and mirrors and we build and rebuild guns all the time to make things look like the latest and greatest incarnation of the guns. I just converted a bunch of M16A1s into A4s for an film (spring 08) and then had to convert all of them BACK to A1 for a Vietnam movie. So most of the time it's a moot point. There are no distinctive A2s or A3s or C7s, or at least we can't tell from the rate of fire since most of the guns are "Build ups". All M16s in inventory go full auto or semi auto only. (that's as far as I've seen and I've handled and inspected literally one hundred movie M16/AR15 variants, including carbines, 9mms, fake XM177s, A1s, A2s, M4s, A4s). So I wonder, how do we reconcile the difference between the real world and the movie world? I think we should keep on doing as we are doing. Designate the difference between the A2s and A3s (etc) since that's correct in the real world and (whether intentional or not) that's what's being represented in the movies, but be aware that most of the guns are just dressed up A1s. Sorry for the longwinded post. Didn't mean to ramble. Have a happy new year MoviePropMaster2008 20:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC) BTW, I'm tickled (again) that IMFDB is the only place on the net to have a pic of this gun. :) (edit)(BTW: I will photograph a C7 for the site soon just to complete the M16 series)