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Some of the U.S. Army and Mexican Army soldiers in the film use [[M1903 Springfield|Springfield M1903A3]] rifles. Tector ([[Ben Johnson]]) uses one while dressed as an Army corporal and in some scenes after. Coffer ([[Strother Martin]]), a member of Thornton's posse, uses one as well, at one point telling one of the other posse members to dig a bullet out of a corpse to see if it is one of his .30-06 rounds. Coffer's M1903A3 is the World War II variant, making it anachronistic for a film taking place between 1913 and 1916. The rifles used on the film were made by National Ordnance.
Some of the U.S. Army and Mexican Army soldiers in the film use [[M1903 Springfield|Springfield M1903A3]] rifles. Tector ([[Ben Johnson]]) uses one while dressed as an Army corporal and in some scenes after. Coffer ([[Strother Martin]]), a member of Thornton's posse, uses one as well, at one point telling one of the other posse members to dig a bullet out of a corpse to see if it is one of his .30-06 rounds. Coffer's M1903A3 is the World War II variant, making it anachronistic for a film taking place between 1913 and 1916. The rifles used on the film were made by National Ordnance.


:These are Remington 03A3s, which are indeed WWII guns. For the record the MPM pic is a Remingotn as well. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:These are Remington 03A3s, which are indeed WWII guns. For the record the MPM pic is a Remington as well. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:Springfield03A3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Springfield M1903A3 - .30-06 Springfield]]
[[Image:Springfield03A3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Springfield M1903A3 - .30-06 Springfield]]
[[Image:Wildb-spring03a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Coffer, with his Springfield M1903, and T.C..]]
[[Image:Wildb-spring03a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Coffer, with his Springfield M1903, and T.C..]]

Revision as of 00:02, 23 November 2009

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The Wild Bunch (1969).

The following firearms were used in the film The Wild Bunch:







Winchester Model 1897

Many of the "Wild Bunch" use Winchester Model 1897 riot shotguns, most notably Pike Bishop (William Holden), Dutch Engstrom (Ernest Borgnine), Lyle Gorch (Warren Oates), and Angel (Jaime Sanchez).

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Winchester 1897 riot shotgun (non-takedown version which is the version seen in the movie) - 12 gauge. This particular weapon is an IAC imported clone.
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Dressed as U.S. Army soldiers, the gang prepares to rob a Texas railroad payroll office. Lyle Gorch holds a Winchester '97.
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A gang member fires a round from a Winchester '97 at the rooftop posse.
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Winchester 1897 muzzle flash
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Gang member shooting the 1897 shotgun
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Angel literally rolls onto the train with his Model 1897.
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Angel aims his Winchester '97 at an engineer.
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Lyle rides on the front of the train with his 1897.
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Dutch nervously trades guns with the Mexican soldiers.
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During the gang's memorable march towards their final confrontation, Pike, Dutch, and Lyle carry Winchester '97 shotguns while Tector handles a Winchester '92 rifle.
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Lyle fires his Winchester Model 1897 during the final shootout in Agua Verde.

Springfield M1903A3

Some of the U.S. Army and Mexican Army soldiers in the film use Springfield M1903A3 rifles. Tector (Ben Johnson) uses one while dressed as an Army corporal and in some scenes after. Coffer (Strother Martin), a member of Thornton's posse, uses one as well, at one point telling one of the other posse members to dig a bullet out of a corpse to see if it is one of his .30-06 rounds. Coffer's M1903A3 is the World War II variant, making it anachronistic for a film taking place between 1913 and 1916. The rifles used on the film were made by National Ordnance.

These are Remington 03A3s, which are indeed WWII guns. For the record the MPM pic is a Remington as well. - Gunmaster45
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Springfield M1903A3 - .30-06 Springfield
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Coffer, with his Springfield M1903, and T.C..
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Coffer kisses his 03A3 when preparing for a shootout.
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Tector fires at the posse on the rooftops.
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Coffer aims his Springfield at the Wild Bunch.
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U.S. Army soldiers on the weapons train armed with Springfields.
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A soldier fires his Springfield just as he takes an accidental bullet from one of Thornton's posse.
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Gen. Mapache (Emilio Fernandez) looks over the Springfield rifles the Wild Bunch stole for him.
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Coffer fires his Springfield M1930A3.
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A Mexican soldier's M1903 flies up into the air when he is shot.
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Mexican soldiers aim their rifles at the Wild Bunch during the shootout in Agua Verde.
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A Mexican child soldier shoots Pike during the finale.

Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine

Characters on both sides of the law use Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine rifles. Of the "Wild Bunch" itself, Pike, Dutch, Tector, Angel, and Freddie Sykes (Edmond O'Brien) can all be seen using Winchester '92s. Deke Thornton (Robert Ryan) leads his posse with a Model 1892. Some members of the posse, including T.C. (L.Q. Jones) use '92s as well.

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Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine - .32WCF/.38-40/.44-40.
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T.C. prepares for the rooftop ambush with his Winchester '92.
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Deke, T.C., and another posse member fire their Model '92s down on the Wild Bunch bandits.
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Deke fires his Winchester Model 1892.
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T.C. aims his Winchester '92.
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Deke tries to aim his Winchester through the smoke on the rooftop.
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Dutch taps his Winchester '92 against the crates of rifles to alert the soldiers on the train that he is holding a gun on them.
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Pike fires at Thornton's posse.
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T.C.'s Winchester '92.
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Deke aims his Winchester just before the bridge is blown up.
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Angel during the weapons trade with the Mexicans.

Winchester Model 1912

Clarence "Crazy" Lee (Bo Hopkins) uses a Winchester Model 1912 during the opening payroll robbery.

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Winchester Model 1912 riot - 12 gauge.
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Lee waits with his Model '12, anxiously asking if he can kill the hostages.
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Lee taunts the hostages.
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Lee shoots his hostages when they try and run away.

Colt M1911/Star Model B

The members of the "Wild Bunch", most notably Pike Bishop, Dutch Engstrom, Lyle Gorch, and Angel, use Colt M1911 pistols. As with many other films made during this time, 9 mm Star Model B pistols were used instead as they were more reliable with blanks. The German government official with Gen. Mapache notes that the "Wild Bunch" are carrying them, noting to tell them that they cannot be acquired legally by private citizens.

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Star Model B - 9mm
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Dutch stands in the payroll office with his M1911 drawn.
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The external extractor on Pike's M1911 clearly identifies it as a Star Model B.
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Lee draws his M1911 on the hostages.
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Pike puts a wounded gang member out of his misery during their escape.
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Angel shoots his ex-fiancee when he sees her with Gen. Mapache.
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Lyle and Tector shoot barrels of alcohol when out partying with prostitutes from Agua Verde.
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Angel's Model B sits in his holster as he tells the Wild Bunch that his villagers are going to take a crate of rifles and ammunition.
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After shooting Gen. Mapache, Pike spins around with his Model B and Winchester '97 in hand.
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Pike shoots a Mexican military official.
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Lyle fires his M1911 during the final shootout, double-wielding with his Winchester shotgun.
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Pike reloads when he and Dutch are cornered during the final shootout.

Single Barrel Shotgun

A single barrel shotgun is used by a town resident to shoot one of Pikes gang members in the face. The shotgun has a very long barrel giving the impression that this citizen grabbed his duck gun and tried to help fight the gang.

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Aiming the single barrel shotgun
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This must be a hunting gun, look at the length of the barrel
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Killed by gang member

Double-Barreled Shotgun

One of the Wild Bunch's anonymous gang members fires a 12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun during the opening robbery.

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J. Stevens and Company 1878 - 12 gauge.
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A bandit fires at the rooftop posse.

Winchester Model 1892

Pat Harrigan (Albert Dekker) fires a Winchester Model 1892 (not a Saddle Ring Carbine like the other characters carry) when he sits on the rooftop with the posse he hired.

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Winchester 1892 -.32WCF/.38-40/.44-40/.25-20.
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Harrigan fires at the Wild Bunch.

Single Action Army

Of the "Wild Bunch", Pike Bishop, Dutch Engstrom, and Tector Gorch keep a Single Action Army as a secondary sidearm. Deke Thornton and the rest of his posse pack SAAs and they seem to be the standard sidearm of the Mexican Army, including Major Zamorra (Jorge Russick). Other anonymous characters use them as well.

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Colt Single Action Army w/ 5" barrel known as the "Artillery" model - .45 Long Colt
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One of the vigilantes with Rev. Wainscoat (Dub Taylor) carries a Single Action Army.
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A Mexican soldier holds his own New Service and Dutch's SAA after Angel shoots his ex-fiancee Teresa.
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Maj. Zamorra holds a Single Action Army.
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Pike with his SAA drawn during the train robbery.
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Tector fires his SAA at the Thornton posse.
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Pike fires back at his girlfriend's husband
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Pike returning some more fire with his Single Action Army.
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One of Gen. Mapache's men fires an SAA during the military battle.
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A Mexican soldier is shot while firing his Single Action Army.
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Dutch, SAA in hand, rushes to Pike's side.
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Pike's unfired Single Action Army sits in his holster after the final shootout.

Colt New Service

Some of the Mexican soldiers carry Colt New Service revolvers. In both flashbacks, a lawman arresting Thornton and a jealous husband who wounds Pike each use a New Service. Pat Harrigan also keeps one in his waistband.

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Colt New Service M1917 in moon clipped .45 ACP.
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Pat Harrigan reaches in his pocket, revealing a New Service.
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A lawman shoots Deke in the shoulder before arresting him.
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The lawman looks for Pike, who escaped.
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A Mexican soldier holds his own New Service and Dutch's SAA after Angel shoots his ex-fiancee Teresa.
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The jealous husband kills his wife and shoots Pike in the leg.

Mauser 1912

Some of Mapache's soldiers use Steyr-made Mauser 1912 Short Rifles. These were purchased by Mexico around the time the movie is set.

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Peruvian Mauser M1935, very similar to the 1912 Short Rifle
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Mexican soldiers march, some with Mauser '98s.
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A Mexican soldier shoots another Mexican soldier for instigating a fight when the Wild Bunch reveals the Browning M1917.

Smith & Wesson Model 10

One of Mapache's soldiers holds a Smith & Wesson Model 10 on Angel during the gang's first night in Agua Verde.

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Smith & Wesson Model 10 - .38 Special
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The soldier guards Angel.

Browning M1917

The Wild Bunch steals a .30-06 water-cooled Browning M1917 machine gun and gives it to Mapache "as a gift". Mapache (Emilio Fernandez) fires it wildly when trying to find out how to use it. Later in the film, Pike, Lyle, and Tector each fire it at the Mexicans during the final shootout. This gun is most likely an anachronism as the film takes place during Pershing's time in Mexico, which was before the M1917's development.

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Browning M1917 - .30-06 Springfield‎
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Tector and Lyle show the gang the M1917 they find.
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Lyle rides through Mexico with the Browning mounted on the wagon.
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Tector and Lyle prepare the M1917 for presentation to the Mexicans, confusing them and causing one to fire at it.
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The Mexicans try to load ammunition.
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The gun fires wildly in the hands of the Mexicans as everyone in Agua Verde runs for cover.
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Mapache loses control of the Browning M1917.
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A Mexican officer prepares to fire at the Wild Bunch during the final shootout.
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Tector wipes out some of the Mexicans.
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Lyle turns the machine gun towards Mapache's men.

Enfield No.2 Mk.I*

Some of the Mexican soldiers are armed with British Enfield No.2 revolvers.

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A Mexican is shot while drawing his Enfield revolver.

Luger P08

The Mexican prostitute that shoots Pike in the back during the final shootout uses a Luger P08.

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Luger P08 - 9 mm
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The prostitute draws her Luger.
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She drops her Luger when Pike fires a round from his Winchester '97 shotgun into her.

Dynamite

In one of the most memorable scenes of the movie Thorton and the posse stop on the bridge to shoot at the gang, not realizing that the bridge has been packed with dynamite. Pike tips his hat to Thorton just as the dynamite explodes sending the posse into the river. Later on, Pike remarks that Thorton won’t be on their trail "after riding half a case of dynamite into the river". The stunt men saddled on live horses rode the exploding bridge into the river. The gang also ties dynamite to the wagon full of guns, and threaten to blow up the wagon if the Mexicans attack them or dont pay up. Lyle uses dynamite to play a joke on Skyes.

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Sticks of dynamite
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Lighting the fuses
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about to explode
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Tip of the hat
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Boom
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Boom
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Boom
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Boom
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A clear shot of the stuntmen
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The horses and stuntmen in the river
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"You know what this is?"
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Lyle lights a bundle of dynamite for his joke, you can see the wagon is still riged to blow
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The dynamite lands next to Skye as he is "relieving" himself
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He's not too happy