Talk:Far Cry 5: Difference between revisions
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[[File:170323_large.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 629 Stealth Hunter - .44 Magnum]]
[[File:170323_large.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 629 Stealth Hunter - .44 Magnum]]
[[File:FCND M629 (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|If anything, the 629's finish looks a lot more like shiny carbon fiber.]]
[[File:FCND M629 (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|If anything, the 629's finish looks a lot more like shiny carbon fiber.]]
[[File:FCND M629 (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Captain holds the Model 629 out on a bandit. The snowy terrain is courtesy of a mod.]]
[[File:FCND M629 (3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the revolver.]]
[[File:FCND M629 (4).jpg|thumb|none|600px|About to mash the ejector with the new speedloader in hand.]]
[[File:FCND M629 (5).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Locking in the new .44 cartridges into the cylinder.]]
==Smith & Wesson SW1911==
==Smith & Wesson SW1911==
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Red Dot Sight
The Red Dot Sight appears to be a hybrid between Aimpoint Micro, Primary Arms Micro and Sig Romeo 5.
Discussion
First heading
Looks like UbiSoft will be revealing the gameplay on Friday (May 26th) but, for now, they have released a teaser image. Looks like the game is set in Montana and the villains are a crazy, religious cult (Like the Westboro Baptist Church, I guess).--SeanWolf (talk) 14:42, 24 May 2017 (EDT)
Wonder if the enemies will all still be running around with AK-103s and P416s as they have been in the last two games...., also, I hope they paid the NFA tax on those short-barreled carbines or we'll be ATF simulator-ing that dog.--AgentGumby (talk) 15:42, 24 May 2017 (EDT)
I bet it'll be full auto weapons all around because Ubisoft, a French company with developers in Canada thinks every American is a white red neck with full auto M16s in their back yard Excalibur01 (talk) 17:48, 24 May 2017 (EDT)
To be fair, a combination of black market usage, home gunsmithing/machining, and theft could net one a fair amount of fully-automatic weaponry (especially if, as seems to be the case here, the group in question effectively operates without any law enforcement supervision), but still, there have to be some limits. Full-auto converted AR-15 carbines and Luty-style SMGs I could understand; FAMASes and QLZ-87s, well, I'd be a fair bit less forgiving. Then again, this is Far Cry, so it's not exactly meant to make a whole lot of sense. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 21:27, 24 May 2017 (EDT)
Ubisoft just doesn't care all that much about realism and prefers to include cool guns in their games. I can't imagine the weapon set in Far Cry 5 will be any attempt at a political statement at all, though people will certainly take it as such given the new setting. It's gonna be a big amalgamation of different cool to use but ultimately probably not very realistic weapons. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 18:29, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
To be serious, aside from how this may be a dumb story plot, I do hope they use different weapon templates. I will be pissed if I see the same AK, POF 416, SIG and for the love of God, there better not be any FAMASs in this game set in America. Also, the image already confirmed RPGs...even though really no one can get them here Excalibur01 (talk) 17:48, 24 May 2017 (EDT)
Nah, man, they're totally gonna keep reusing weapons from previous games. I mean, it's apparently not an Ubisoft game these days if it doesn't have the Far Cry 3 P416 model in it somewhere (I'm legit surprised they haven't thrown it into R6 Siege yet), plus there's all these other models from Watch_Dogs 2 and Wildlands just begging to be put into another game or two... Kadorhal (talk) 05:54, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
in all seriousness though I would love at least a different AK model or something. This one's gonna be set in America, give us a 5.56mm AK. Wouldn't even need much work to turn the AK-103 model into a believable AK-101, I'd like to imagine. Kadorhal (talk) 05:56, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
The P416 actually shows up in the initial startup screen of Siege, lol. Also, there's no reason why an AK in America has to be 5.56; it just shouldn't be an AK-100 series since those aren't exactly imported in America (Arsenal SLR is probably the closest thing).--AgentGumby (talk) 10:43, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
I'm just hoping they're let you use more than 3 attachments in the single player.
Honestly, it's not even the "3 attachment" trope that pisses me off the most, but it's the fact that Ubisoft actually locks some attachments to multiplayer only and you have to download a patch to be able to use them in SP. (Like the SPAS-12 suppressor and the SVD illuminated sight). Nobody even plays Far Cry multiplayer, so why even bother doing that??? --Patfast (talk) 14:25, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
On the subject of attachments, here's hoping that extended magazines actually change the weapon models now. Now, a lot of these changes that we hope for aren't likely, but hey, a man can dream. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 20:08, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
To be fair, the RPG-7 is one of few (common) reusable rocket launcher out there, so if they're gonna include any at all (which they will, because it's Far Cry, come on), is not a poor choice. The Desert Eagle and MP5 will also likely return, seeing as how they've been in every major Far Cry game to date. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 18:23, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
I hope they really switch up the current Far Cry formula of "you must defeat le psychotic bad guy by capturing ALL the radio towers", but knowing Ubisoft, probably not. Also, $50 on there being at least one Buford T. Justice caricature of a southern police officer. --Aidoru (talk) 01:22, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
Nice job out there! Only 5 more bell towers to go and you can buy an RPG from an unsuspecting gun store, because obviously that's how it works in America! --Patfast (talk) 14:16, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
They're going to set it in an Amish community, so all this will be new to them. Evil Tim (talk) 14:22, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
I can't find the pic, but someone did photoshop the image so it said Duck Dynasty 5 instead. That made me chuckle.--SeanWolf (talk) 01:02, 26 May 2017 (EDT)
Grrrrhhh it will be a Far Cry 3/4 just with a different skin (hero join a La Resistânce group for defeat the Bad Guy/Guys)... they should had done something revolutionary like they did Far Cry 3. It didnt look the same to Far Cry 2, and if werent for the title you won't even assume they were same series...--Dannyguns (talk) 09:42, 29 May 2017 (EDT)
Well I've pre-ordered my copy, based on the knowledge that /k/ will hunt me down and kill me if I don't screencap this. Let's just hope it doesn't have some godforsaken random multiplayer unlock system to stash weapons behind like the CoD games decided to have. And doesn't need me to grind for hours in a phone app to get one of the unique weapons, that would be nice too. Evil Tim (talk) 05:33, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
Trailer Dropped
Well, UbiSoft dropped the trailer and it looks good. In terms of weapons, I don't think I saw any from the previous games (thankfully), but I did see two shotguns I couldn't ID, what looks to be a PDW, an AK-74, and a VERY quick shot of a revolver. --SeanWolf (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2017 (EDT)
Looks like there's a Remington 870 with wooden furniture as well, and another short-barreled "cruiser" pump-action with polymer furniture, Browning M2HBs on the technicals, a MAC-10/11. According to the Far Cry website, the game's AR-type gun is called the "AR-C", and doesn't look to be based on any particular AR variant (that I know of), though the selector switch looks kind of like an HK's. The sawed-off "D2 Shotgun" from Far Cry 4 appears to be returning, but with a new model this time (thank god it's not the cut down Double Rifle.) Though this time around it looks like it was manufactured that way, seeing that it has front sights and a proper finish, making it technically not "sawed-off" at all. The 1911 is also back, and also has a new model. Looks to be an amalgamation of several M1911 variants (Springfield Armory, Kimber, etc.) rather than a single one.
I've never been particularly good at telling pump-action shotguns apart (unless it's a SPAS-12 or maybe an Ithaca they really all look nearly the same to me), but taking a close look at the shotgun in the trailer and comparing it to screenshots from Far Cry 4, I think it might possibly be the FC4 M133 model. Again. Damnit. Kadorhal (talk) 04:15, 27 May 2017 (EDT)
If you watch the character trailers, you can see it's not the same model (it's especially clear at the end of the one set in the bar.) It's got a much longer barrel and a shorter magazine tube than the MP133. Which is good, because not only is reusing the models dumb, but the Baikal is also a pretty bad choice in rural America when you have the equally common and near-identical M870. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 18:09, 28 May 2017 (EDT)
Is the MP133 a copy of R870? From what I know, it's just further development of Baikal-81, which seems to be quite an independent development. --Slon95 (talk) 09:30, 28 March 2018 (EDT)
Luckily Ubi decided to get it together and give most of the weapons new models this time around. --yocapo32 (talk) 02:27, 28 May 2017 (EDT)
I think that the reason the AR and 1911 don't seem to be based on any particular model might be intended to reflect how people will custom build their AR's and 1911's rather than just buying a full one off the shelf A LOT nowadays, which is something I've been wanting to see in a game for a while.--BlackHawk510 (talk) 14:35, 28 May 2017 (EDT)
Gun Wishlist
What do you folks want? --Dannyguns (talk) 09:24, 29 May 2017 (EDT)
Well already there appears to be some kind of high caliber lever gun from what I see from the trailer. Guide gun maybe? I'd love a Browning BLR, maybe a BAR Safri as a Hunting/Sniper Rifle too. I'm fully expecting some kind of AK as well, whether it be a video game mashup or maybe even a civi variant like a Romanian WASR converted for full auto, because I highly doubt FC5 will have fire controls for selective fire. Also expecting some more Revolvers too, although I'm hoping for a more traditional .357 revolver over the .44 Magnum. Draco122 (talk) 12:08, 29 May 2017 (EDT)
I'm just hoping we get a few of the "American classics" in there - Single Action Army, Thompson, M1 Garand, etc. Older American movie guns like the TEC-9, MP5A3, Winchester 1887, and Desert Eagle, all of which have been in FC games in the past, hopefully will reappear as well (some, like the MAC-10 are already confirmed.) --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 13:11, 29 May 2017 (EDT)
The Coonan, though that's probably hoping for too much, considering how obscure the damned thing is. --yocapo32 (talk) 15:17, 29 May 2017 (EDT)
Aaaand cue this random guy listing off a bunch of stuff that's varying degrees of strange, and will never get into the game: A Ruger PMR-30, a Chiappa Rhino, literally anything made by Mateba, a COP 357, a Taurus Judge, a Thompson Center Contender, a Magnum Research BFR, a Remington XP-100, an Arsenal AF2011A1, an HK VP70M, a Ruger 10/22, with a 25-round BX-25 magazine and an aftermarket full-auto trigger pack (yes, those exist, and they are absolutely hilarious), an American-180, an AR-18, an M2 Carbine, an STGW-57, an Ithaca MAG-10 Roadblocker, a Chiappa Triple Threat, a DP-12, an SRM M1216, a K31 with an optional aftermarket scope mount, a Mossberg 464 SPX, a Hadar II, an HK SL8, the .700 Nitro side-by-side from FC4, a Kel-Tec RFB, a Lahti L-39, an M2 Flamethrower (to replace the jury-rigged LPO-50 from the earlier games), a Manville Gas Gun, a Gyrojet, a Hawk MM1... on one hand, listing off all these random-ass weapons makes me happy; on the other hand, realizing that they'll never be in this game (and, most likely, a fair amount of them won't be in many/any games at all) makes me sad. Yours truly dishonestly, Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 17:45, 29 May 2017 (EDT)
An M9A3, Browning Hi Power, Glock 19, the Judge someone mentioned earlier, the M500 (because Far Cry), and the M29 for handguns/magnums. A good old tried and true AR-15 as a basic rifle would be nice, along with the Mini-14 and maybe a full-size M14 for DMRs, the expected AK and M16 variants for assault rifles, an M1903 (ala Far Cry 2), M1 (which you can upgrade into an M1-C), and some form of Barret rifle for snipers, the 870, Ithaca (with mods for making it a Stakeout), KSG, and some form of Armsel drum-fed shotgun for shotguns, and the tried and true M249, M60, and M2 for machine guns of various flavors. I'd also like to see the M79 come back from Far Cry 2 because it adds such a new dynamic to gunplay. --That's the Way It's Done (talk) 22:30, 29 May 2017 (EDT)
For the record, the M79 was also in Far Cry 4, and it was awesome there too, I'd love for it to make another return. Personally, I'd also like to see a FAL of some variety (preferably a full-size model just so they at least have to put some work into it instead of just copying over the Future Soldier/Blacklist SA58 and calling it a day) and some more revolvers. Maybe a Charter Arms Bulldog, they could make the Signature version into the Blade Runner gun. Kadorhal (talk) 00:34, 30 May 2017 (EDT)
If they do that, it needs to fire rifle rounds, a laFallout New Vegas.--That's the Way It's Done (talk) 22:52, 3 June 2017 (EDT)
They should add civilian variants of military guns like the ARX-100, the Texan-buiod MSBS,SCAR-L, the SIG-Sauer P320 that is now standard of US Army,Glocks,SR-47...--Dannyguns (talk) 07:51, 30 May 2017 (EDT)
I wish for an actual regular Glock. G17, or G19 and it isn't a full auto Glock as the default. Make the full auto Glock a special gun you get later. For handguns, an M&P series, maybe in .40 since your character will be a cop of sorts or LEO. For new gun flavors, I want to see the MPX, Scorpion Evo 3, MDR. Let's see some Kel-tec guns like their KSG, even though it isn't really a new hotness anymore or the RFB or the RDB. There are so many guns in America to choose from. I want to see an SKS or something Excalibur01 (talk) 10:43, 30 May 2017 (EDT)
Personally I'd love to see some factual basis for the guns in this game. Having the likes of say an ultimax or PKP say just doesn't fit. I'd also like say a Krebs or Rifle Dynamics AK. Both are good US made platforms and not seen in a VG before. Also ditch the staple weapons. No desert eagle, no P416, no AK103 variant.
A decent domestic AR15 variant would be nice as opposed to the standard M4/M16 we see from typical VG. Also add a glock, a SIG and a SCAR H/RFB instead of the ACE.--Forrest1985 (talk) 13:26, 2 June 2017 (EDT)
The Desert Eagle would make more sense in the American setting than any of the other Far Cry games, ironically enough. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 14:10, 2 June 2017 (EDT)
The 2016 version would be awesome.--Dannyguns (talk) 15:11, 2 June 2017 (EDT)
I wouldn't mind them bringing back the Tec-9. Add a MAC-10 with the big old suppressor would be cool. I seriously doubt a non-American company like Ubisoft to be aware of specific custom gun makers like Rifle Dynamics or Taran Tactical unless those companies reach out to Ubisoft to have their guns represented or someone on the design team reach out to them Excalibur01 (talk) 15:56, 2 June 2017 (EDT)
Mac-10 in place of tec9 from FC4 wold be nice with the huge suppressor as the signiture edition. With regards to desert eagle, its really accurate but for me its an overused hollywood wonder weapon bit like Glock 18. I'd prefer a nice S&W or Colt revolver in the classic VG "hand cannon" slot instead. With regards to RD, Krebs, or TT I am sure Ubisoft have google? Activision seems to make great use of it for their weapon choses. It was my personal wishlist hence the addition of an american based AK designer. If they wanted an authentic setting rather than just re-use guns from R6 siege and watch dogs then perhaps they could have done some research? I do love Ubisoft but they are definitely following the COD rinse and repeat when it comes to firearms. A classic 1911 would be nice perhaps with the back story that it was the main characters Grandads piece from WW2. --Forrest1985 (talk) 16:24, 2 June 2017 (EDT)
Ubisoft uploaded a few screenshots to their website, these are high def variants. They look doctored to me, but assuming this is anything like what the game will be (ha ha), there are a few things that stick out: the WW2 plane in the second image is definitely a frankenplane, a bastard child of a Ju 87 and Bf 109 by the looks of it. It looks like the rear facing MG15 has been replaced by a Browning M2, or maybe an AN/M2 (something I'm okay with, because an actual firing MG15 would make very little sense.) Also, in the first image, you can see the ally on the right has an AR-type that's very similar to the one the player & enemies are holding, but it's a longer-barreled variant and has a custom paint job (and no sights at all, ugh.) This, combined with the fact that there are even more AR-types shown in promo images or trailers makes me think that weapon customization will actually be somewhat extensive in this game, rather than the "two attachments per gun" thing Far Cry 3 & 4 had going. It COULD just be a signature rifle or something, but I'm willing to bet it might be more. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 11:44, 2 June 2017 (EDT)
I can already tell the AR has the front sight on backwards...like the last game. The rail kinda reminds me of Daniel Defense's new M-Lok rail Excalibur01 (talk) 15:57, 2 June 2017 (EDT)
Said sniper rifle has a telescoping that's fully retracted. What exactly did the developers think the lever was for? --VladVladson (talk) 04:08, 13 June 2017 (EDT)
Well, the chick shooting it does look kinda short, maybe it sits better on her shoulder like that. I mean, that is the idea behind adjustable stocks after all. --yocapo32 (talk) 04:44, 13 June 2017 (EDT)
Sad News...
New firearms confirmed are : Fabarm FP6,M4A1(yeah),M11A1 variant,MBP.50 (high caliber rifle).
Sad News?
Suspance...
Another bit..
Most of them are recycled. So we get the usual arsenal. AGAIN. So pissed.--Dannyguns (talk) 05:11, 12 July 2017 (EDT)
Where did you get any of this information? I haven't seen anything recycled thus far, except for the Vz.61 Skorpion on the game's expanded cover which is clearly the same as the one in Ghost Recon: Wildlands (or at least rendered the same.) But even that doesn't confirm it'll be ingame that way, or in the game at all for that matter. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 10:18, 22 July 2017 (EDT)
I get it on the wikia.--Dannyguns (talk) 03:09, 4 September 2017 (EDT)
The Far Cry wiki is poorly maintained and none of the recycled guns listed there are sourced, nor have they appeared in any promo material I could find. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 13:40, 17 September 2017 (EDT)
Question, since the trailer dropped already, shouldn't we make the page and not just stick around here? --yocapo32 (talk) 18:30, 1 August 2017 (EDT)
Weapon classifications
Is it accurate to list machine pistols as SMGs and the flamethrower as a launcher? --Slemke1998 (talk) 11:31, 24 December 2017 (EST)
The Skorpion is called an SMG as often as it's called a machine pistol, and a flamethrower is a launcher. It launches flames. More to the point flamethrowers usually get put in launchers because it's rare for there to be more than one of them in a given work so giving them their own category is a bit silly. Evil Tim (talk) 11:46, 24 December 2017 (EST)
Sure,I can see how the Skorpion qualifies but not the MAC. I don't see any reason why flamethrowercan't be categorised as"other". --Slemke1998 (talk) 12:52, 24 December 2017 (EST)
MAC-10 is also classified as an SMG at least as often as it's called a machine pistol. SMG at least benefits from having a real definition (pistol calibre automatic) while with machine pistol once you get outside auto versions of actual pistols you're left spinning in the wind mumbling about form factors. And every other Far Cry page lists the flamethrower under launchers, it's something of a standard. I don't think it's worth fretting over. Evil Tim (talk) 16:05, 24 December 2017 (EST)
Well as far as I can tell an SMG is an automatic or select fire weapon with a carbine length barrel and chambered ina pistol cartridge. That description doesn't fit either gun. Also I still think it's wrong to list a flamethrower as a launcher. I can't be the only one who thinks it's bizarre that liquid propellants and rockets are the same according to this page. --Slemke1998 (talk) 16:50, 24 December 2017 (EST)
Naw, that definition doesn't work because there's some SMGs that don't have carbine-length barrels: for example, the TDI Vector's barrel is only 5.5 in, only half an inch longer than an M1911's, while an MP5K's barrel is shorter than an M1911's at 4.5 in, which is the same length as a Skorpion's and 0.01 in longer than a MAC-10's. Kedr PP-91 only has a 4.7 inch barrel, too.
The LPO-50 specifically is a weapon that uses an explosive charge to fire, so is basically a gun that happens to fire a projectile that's liquid. Calling it a launcher is actually completely accurate to how it operates. Also as I said, it's not really worth worrying about. Evil Tim (talk) 17:02, 24 December 2017 (EST)
Bah, we've long rolled machine pistols into SMG categories with a few exceptions those being the rather few automatic variants of otherwise semiauto-only pistol model-groups (Glock, Beretta, CZ). MAC-10/11, Skorpions, Mini/Micro Uzi, etc are not related to sidearm-vein handguns and thus they fill more a SMG aesthetic while still also meeting all the other criteria (pistol caliber, select fire, and many have folding or detachable stocks allowing them to be technically 'shoulder fired'). Barrel length is rather irrelevant as Tim pointed out - I'll add that longer barreled guns like the Calicos and the earliest 'sub' guns are likewise listed as SMGs as they meet the other requirements while having barrel lengths as long as many rifles. An aside, I'm not seeing the difference between Skorpions and MACs in this discussion at all. Anyway, all-told yes it is.. if not 'accurate', then certainly not improper to categorize them as such. The alternative is come up with a 'machine pistol' category which really just opens up another can of worms.
As for the flamethrower, that is even less of a question mark, since as ET noted, it is indeed technically a launcher that propels flame instead of grenades or rockets. What it propels is rather irrelevant in this regard. I'd put gas dischargers under the same, also. Anyway, no one is saying they're the "same", just that they share some similar characteristics enough to be grouped together. A Blunderbuss and a AA-12 are certainly not the same except for the single fact they both fire shot - which is enough to categorize them both in one section. Now while I grant flamethrowers are generally put in 'other' sections in many other pages, those pages also don't diversify into explosives and launchers as is done here - hand grenades and rocket launchers would be lumped with them. That and the 'other' section is already used for another purpose it seems - it would be bizarre to do it that way here by my reckoning. Now I suppose the launchers and explosives could all be lumped together into an 'other' section while the existing other with the listing about the cover weapons could be renamed 'special' or something. But as said, this is part of a series with this one weapon listed a certain way and I would lean to keeping it so for the sake of consistency among the set, especially when it's not improperly listed otherwise. Bottom-line, I more agree with Tim in that this ain't worth making a stink about - and this coming from someone who has made stinks about things of this sort in the past. StanTheMan (talk) 23:27, 24 December 2017 (EST)
Possible lever gun in trailer
At around 43 seconds in the Announcement Trailer you can someone hunting a deer with what appears to be some sort of lever action rifle, though you can't see a lever so it might be a semi-auto sporting rifle. If someone can ID this should it be added? I don't think it's gameplay footage so I'm not sure if this counts. Also, I hate to bring up categories again but if this gun is in the game then the categories need a small overhaul. It's not really a sniper and it certainty isn't an AR. --Slemke1998 (talk) 11:06, 28 December 2017 (EST)
Marlin 1895
What makes this a "Sniper Rifle"? You can tell from my post history that I am a bit pedantic but I don't see how an unscoped lever action rifle qualifies as a sniper. Has this just been categorised as such for simplicity's sake or am I missing something here? --Slemke1998 (talk) 19:45, 9 March 2018 (EST)
I think it’s classified as so in game and can mount the sniper scopes, so that’s the reason.--AgentGumby (talk) 20:50, 9 March 2018 (EST)
If it's in the sniper rifles category in the game it's probably treated as one in terms of things like the ammo it uses and the upgrades it gets. It's probably just that the low-tier sniper rifles don't come with a scope by default. Might change it to "Sniper / Marksman Rifles" I suppose. Evil Tim (talk) 03:04, 10 March 2018 (EST)
Moved
I'll take a look for some evidence of these later, but if it's just finding names in the game files that's not worth including. Evil Tim (talk) 03:03, 28 March 2018 (EDT)
Click sounds
Can somebody explain to me why some games such as this one and CS:GO have those ANNOYING empty click-like sounds simultaneously with each round that you fire, when your magazine is almost empty? (no matter if your weapon is full-auto or bolt-action) CoD WWII has also has this, albeit on the last round only. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 13:09, 29 March 2018 (EDT)
It's supposed to help you keep track of your remaining ammo since the HUD element for the ammo counter is so small, I think. Evil Tim (talk) 13:14, 29 March 2018 (EDT)
I had it in my mind that it's for this reason, but if it's merely for this one it's stupid (not to mention that the HUD is still visible in these games), and as I've said, really annoying (and loud compared to the firing sound), especially on automatic weapons. Now on the opposite end of the scale, I somehow remembered Operation Black Mesa, which was supposed to come out as a remake for Half-Life: Opposing Force, and where apparently there wouldn't have been any HUD at all, so you'd have your character check the chamber before reloading. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 16:13, 29 March 2018 (EDT)
Lackluster gun selection
I was honestly hoping for more stuff and weird that not a single American made shotgun. Was hoping for the MDR or UMP, or other variants of M4s or something. Excalibur01 (talk) 17:34, 29 March 2018 (EDT)
Hope (County) that there will be "DLC"s like in GTA V or Ghost Recon: Wildlands. In this times game are rarely released full finished. But yeah you are right. For my opinion they should take off the "Prestige" variants and replace them with completely different guns. The U.S. of A. are the lands of guns! --Dannyguns (talk) 04:48, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
Seems like I were right...--Dannyguns (talk) 08:49, 20 June 2018 (EDT)
1911
I don't think the 1911 is based on any S&W model as the in-game gun has no external extractor, as all SW1911s have. --SmithandWesson36 (talk) 12:57, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
They probably just forgot to put it there, like the belt box on the M60. Evil Tim (talk) 14:34, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
I feel like they went with a different model of Kimber for the 1911, other then the front serrations, it reminds me a lot of the Kimber Two Tone. Bristow8411 (talk) 22:59, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
ArtStation for Lead Artist
Not sure if it would be useful, but I found the Artstation for the lead artist at Ubisoft Montreal, Greg Rassam, who's got many pictures of their weapon assets. --Wuzh (talk) 05:57, 7 April 2018 (EDT)
It's kind of neat to look at, but I wouldn't really use those on the page because (a) they're watermarked and (b) they're high-poly models rather than the in-game assets. Evil Tim (talk) 14:52, 7 April 2018 (EDT)
AR-C
I don't understand why the description on the page seems to imply that it's some sort of frankenrifle. To me, it seems like it was obviously supposed to be some sort of fictional custom AR15 carbine build, rather than some sort of rifle "inspired" by the AR15. --BlackHawk510 (talk) 15:07, 14 April 2018 (EDT)
The word "inspired" is only used with regard to how the receiver is put together, and that's because the rear part of the receiver doesn't seem to come together in quite the same way an AR upper and lower would. The name would lead people to think it's supposed to be an ACR, it does have some gross features of an ACR, but it has features an ACR wouldn't have but an AR would. It looks rather like someone who almost knew the mechanics of the AR tried to design an AR that looked like an ACR, really. Evil Tim (talk) 15:41, 14 April 2018 (EDT)
I think I see your point now about the receiver. For reference, this is an example of a slanted AR10 upper on a more typical (DPMS) curved lower.--AgentGumby (talk) 16:57, 14 April 2018 (EDT)
I feel like the weapons designer took some inspiration from the Mega Arms MKM Airsoft Rifle, other than the markings and rail system, the upper looks quite similar. Bristow8411 (talk) 00:36, 15 April 2018 (EDT)
Obvious basis, though still not quite the same, can chalk that up to modelling error. Looks like they referenced the .308 MATEN for most of the receiver but copied the magwell from one of the company's 5.56mm lowers onto it. Evil Tim (talk) 02:23, 15 April 2018 (EDT)
Weird Weapons explanation found...
Well, in a note somewhere in the game is stated that the cult got their guns from a dealer in South America (remember Longinus in the previous game?). While seems weird for US made guns, it does make sense for foreign guns like Baikal MP-133 and the LPO-50, that were sold by Longinus in Far Cry 4. Remember that he was so religious? Well, he just found a group of religious people like him, who just needed guns because wanted to kill people and commit atrocieties in peace. Also the guns that are unlocked by Resistance Points, this can be explained by the fact that the Cult's Leader are smart and maybe hidden the buyed guns in some stash/armory/whatever, and later found by the Resistance. --Dannyguns (talk) 02:24, 6 June 2018 (EDT)
Vietnam DLC has been released.
New guns: M16A1, SVD, silenced CZ527, Mossberg 500, M60 Vietnam era model. The RPG Vietnam era model is usable in the DLC.
--Teslashark (talk) 06:11, 6 June 2018 (EDT)
I think you'll find that "Mossberg" is just a reskin of the Baikal again. They trick you by writing "MN500" on the side. Evil Tim (talk) 06:15, 6 June 2018 (EDT)
Also in the prepatched version I seen a rusted S-20 from Far Cry 4. I would had made a screenshot if I knew that they would had remove it.--Dannyguns (talk) 08:55, 19 June 2018 (EDT)
Those are the flintlock Enfields from Black Flag, I'll have to add them at some point. Evil Tim (talk) 09:57, 19 June 2018 (EDT)
Should weapons that aren't accessible in gameplay be added to the "other" section
Far Cry 2's weapon page has it this way, where the weapons that cannot be used in the game are kept in a separate section to the ones that can be. Might make sense considering most people looking here would probably be more interested in the weapons that are actually usable in the game than ones that appear in cutscenes or as world objects, but feedback would be nice. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 21:00, 3 July 2018 (EDT)
FC2 just does that because it's ordered using the system the game itself uses to classify the weapons. There's no such system in this game (or rather there is, but it classifies the M79 as a sidearm so it can go away until it's sobered up), so no real reason not to classify weapons by what they are. Evil Tim (talk) 21:06, 3 July 2018 (EDT)
Also someone on reddit posted an image of the Ubisoft Club app, which was updated incorrectly and more less confirmed that the next gun unlock is an MG42.
I think they might have confused Montana with Germany. Can't really put it on the page yet, but just thought it was worth noting. Evil Tim (talk) 21:14, 3 July 2018 (EDT)
Still rolling my eyes at the mostly mediocre amount of guns. No Glocks, or even the S&W M&P guns or the MPX. Lack of creativity Excalibur01 (talk) 23:32, 3 July 2018 (EDT)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain the last time a Glock appeared in a Ubisoft game was R6V2. I think they just have a serious aversion to paying Glock the licensing fee, either that or Glock themselves have stated that they no longer approve of having their products featured in their games (which would be an incredibly odd decision for a company like Glock to make, but hey, Toyota did the same thing for racing games) --Patfast (talk) 20:21, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
Well, maybe because the Glock have faded out of popularity. They became too common that anyone think they arent cool anymore. Too sadly, I always hoped to see a Glock in a Ubisoft's Far Cry game.--Dannyguns (talk) 07:27, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
Glock gives them a problem because there's an outline of a Glock 17 in one of Glock's trademarks, so they may be able to ding you with a very easy-to-win trademark infringement case based on the weapon's inventory icon. But given HK has a trademark with an MP5 in it, it might just be that game designers think Glocks look boring. Evil Tim (talk) 08:01, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
Hope they will add it later... anyway why isn't the MG42 on the page?--Dannyguns (talk) 09:53, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
What MG4, what are you talking about? Evil Tim (talk) 09:56, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
Whas MG42, like in tye description... "if you pass the personal challenge you will get a MG42"...
It's an error on the app, you don't get the MG42, you get the Luger. But the fact they had that block of text pre-written suggests it's probably the next weapon release. Evil Tim (talk) 10:01, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
Well, thanks for having saved me from completing the stupid useless challenge 'cause I was really hoping for the MG-42. Mah I personally hate the silly variants. Anyway I bet 100 euros that ALL the guns from the previous Far Cry games (at least FC3 and FC4) will be rewards from Live Events.--Dannyguns (talk) 10:05, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
The VHS is a new weapon to the series and not even a reskin of the FAMAS, so who knows. Maybe we'll get more new guns. Excalibur01 (talk) 11:34, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
According to some people who do datamining on the FC5 subreddit (and have been rather reliable in the past), the MG42 and Makarov PB are both fully textured and usable and likely to be included in very near-future live updates. The Webley, Beretta 93R Auto-9, and Mauser M712/C96 are also apparently planned as well, and the FAMAS, Bizon, QLZ-87 and M79 Osa have also shown up (though they're not as certain.) As far as new guns go, there's an LMG called the "Chainsaw" (possibly a KAC, or just a skin variant of the MG42) and a Crye Six12 (set to appear in the Zombie DLC.) There's also still old references to an HK Mark 23 and an "AR-15" rifle, but those have been present since the game released and I have no word on whether or not they've been updated. No word on anything else, but it's always possible more could show up, and like another user said above, it does seem likely that we can at least expect the majority of the FC3/FC4 arsenal before Ubisoft is done with the game. But obviously nothing is 100% confirmed until it's either in the game or Ubisoft announces it themselves. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 21:54, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
The Mark 23 was a cut gun in FC3, I guess because it was a spec ops gun that was simply out of place. But in US is another story.--Dannyguns (talk) 03:29, 5 July 2018 (EDT)
Sure enough, leaks confirm some new weapons - the MG42, Auto-9, Makarov PB, Bizon, Winchester 1887, and QLZ-87. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 12:38, 7 July 2018 (EDT)
Please don't upload leaked images. The all-blue weapons (that's the default "not found" texture) are more likely to be placeholders, mind you. Evil Tim (talk) 13:09, 7 July 2018 (EDT)
Okay, but those have actually appeared with their new stats/descriptions as of newer updates. The fact that they're untextured just means that they're not planned for the immediate future - however, there's really no reason they would add menu names or descriptions in the most recent patch if they didn't intend to add them. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 14:08, 7 July 2018 (EDT)
MG42 is confirmed in the new event Slugger! God damn it, Hope Country is turning into Courland, Latvia at this rate.
--Teslashark (talk) 12:09, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
Shame the Live Event is borked and you can't get the thing yet. Or the normal Luger. Evil Tim (talk) 13:36, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
It worked fine for me, other than I had to actually find cultists to kill. The P08 challenge was a little weird too, apparently I had to "hunt" domesticated farm animals in Holland Valley instead of wildlife.--AgentGumby (talk) 15:58, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
Four cultists will always spawn by the big wrecked boat on the North shore of the river in Faith's area. They also often forget to set it up so picking a fight with friendly NPCs doesn't count as fighting "Peggies" for these challenges. I got my Luger by having Peaches kill a bunch of cougars since she has about a 75% chance of killing a cougar. She's also faster than a deer, got a few that way. I did hear it was temperamental, though. Evil Tim (talk) 16:18, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
I'd be fine with resetting outposts, but it only works after doing the more "involved" ending that I didn't choose, gonna have to do that at some point. Also, Error creating thumbnail: File missingHere's a fun image of deputy Steamboat Willie taking on a target in the photomode.--AgentGumby (talk) 17:00, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
Incidentally, if you're curious what the other IMFDB Deputy looks like, here she is.
Apparently they're having people vote to bring back old Live Events for a second go and nothing's happening on that front until August 7th, and since it's "pick 7" they might be running repeats until September 25th. So I guess all these other weapons people have found in the game must be either placeholders or intended for Dead Living Zombies. Evil Tim (talk) 22:40, 24 July 2018 (EDT)
The PP-19 Bizon was added to the map editor in the most recent Title Update (only a "Super" variant with attachments, not the base gun.) The map editor also has corpses for some "Evil Corp" soldiers with Cyrillic insignia on their clothing, which makes me think that both it and the Makarov PB that were found are going to be part of a zombie scenario set in Russia. Likewise, one of the PS4 trophies for the DLC mentions killing a Blood Dragon, so the Beretta 93R Auto 9 will probably be part of that one. As for the other guns though, no idea. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 03:45, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
Judging by them throwing in the 1887-T on what I guess must have been last Tuesday, it might be that each repeat Live Event is going to add a new gun when it concludes. After all, the basic versions of all the weapons in these Live Events are already in the game. Evil Tim (talk) 05:06, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
We can hope. Also, a pre-release version of Dead Living Zombies came out on Xbox One (probably mistakenly), and it looks like the PP-19 is the only new weapon in the DLC at all. Guess the 6P9 and AJM-9 are future live event rewards after all, or just cut. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 01:19, 12 August 2018 (EDT)
Leaks
What constitutes a leak? And why are leaked weapons not allowed? --Wuzh (talk) 22:44, 14 August 2018 (EDT)
We typically don't allow or acknowledge material that's not part of an official release of something. It's largely a result of our having several users who actually work in Hollywood, which tends to not be amused by websites that publicise leaked material. Evil Tim (talk) 00:52, 15 August 2018 (EDT)
The relevance of that policy to video games is admittedly questionable, but it's simpler just to apply one standard across the board. My view is that anything found within the files of a demo or released game (which is how we learned about many of the unreleased guns in FC5) should be fair game since the publisher released it and thus can't argue it was unauthorized. On a side note, I sometimes wonder how much hard drive space on our platforms is being taken up by unused data left behind from the development process. Spartan198 (talk) 21:42, 22 February 2019 (EST)
Far Cry New Dawn
Just got a e-mail from Ubisoft, that they announced a new Far Cry game, called New Dawn. It will be set 17 years after the "Nuking of Hope County", which is pronunced : WTF? Anyway since is the same setting and mostly same guns, should we gave another page or put them in this page, like we did with other Far Cry spin-off games?--Dannyguns (talk) 04:11, 8 December 2018 (EST)
Um, well I'd wait until we, like...know anything before making a decision there. Feb 15th launch does make it sound like it's just an add-on pack with reworked and reskinned guns (like the AR-C being made to look like those stupid Fallout pipe weapons), though, and if so I'll just add it here. Only new thing I see so far is the sawblade launcher. Evil Tim (talk) 05:40, 8 December 2018 (EST)
Well, looks like literally the only new thing is the sawblade launcher. --Wuzh (talk) 03:05, 17 February 2019 (EST)
Huh, didn't even realise it was out already. Well, if they're going to recycle content, we'll just use this page as it is. I'll update the entries when I get it, but we can keep the screencaps unless there's some drastic differences. Evil Tim (talk) 03:20, 17 February 2019 (EST)
The high-end AR-C has a used bolt release(!) Also, the AJM-9 seems to be the one other new-ish weapon.--AgentGumby (talk) 23:00, 20 February 2019 (EST)
Hm. If it's a new set of animations, it might be worth making a new page after all. Evil Tim (talk) 03:22, 21 February 2019 (EST)
Yeah, having now actually played it, probably will need its own page. I'll get it started tomorrow. Evil Tim (talk) 15:07, 21 February 2019 (EST)
If it's not too late, may I make a suggestion? Try getting a reload shot of the M11/9 while looking straight up at the sky. Apparently the front strap wasn't exactly designed with that in mind... Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 21:23, 22 February 2019 (EST)
Just going through now, there is absolutely no way this isn't a scrapped battle royale mode. You've got the airdrops, the weapons are sorted according to the rarities of an abandoned lootbox system...hell, even the camps seem to all be built around a central open space for that end-of-the-round close brawl. Evil Tim (talk) 00:23, 24 February 2019 (EST)
Far Cry New Dawn is an offshoot standalone sequel to Far Cry 5 released in early 2019. It is set seventeen years after the (non-canonical) armageddon ending of Far Cry 5 in the vastly Hope County, Montana setting, albeit the county has been vastly reshaped and changed after the better part of two decades of nuclear winter. By 2035, the winter and fallout recedes to the point that survivors have emerged and are attempting to rebuild and restart again.
As with its predecessor, the protagonist of New Dawn is formally unnamed and their appearance is player-determined. The player character is a member of a group of post-apocalyptic survivors that have set about to help rebuild the continental United States. Their role is as a Captain of Security and are referred to in-game as "Captain" or simply "Cap." This group of surviving specialists has been called to aid rebuilding efforts in Hope County, but are ambushed during the train ride into the valley by the local chapter of the Highwaymen, a roving band of Mad Max style post-apoc bandits. The Captain is able to escape, but has to join forces with the resisting survivors to rescue fellow specialist leader Thomas Rush and deal with the Highwayman, led by sadistic twin sisters Mickey and Lou. Additionally, the Captain must also deal with the surviving cultists of the Project at Eden's Gate, who have reemerged as an independent, technology-rejecting primitive community in the northern sector near Joseph Seed's old compound.
Gameplay has generally carried over from 5 with some changes, most notably that weapons are now tiered RPG-style (akin to The Division series). Additionally, due to the lack of currency in the post-civilization world, everything must be crafted from raw materials scavenged and looted in-world. The resisting Hope County survivors have headquartered themselves in a large compound named "Prosperity," lead by the Rye family. This settlement has its own upgrade system that requires the player to acquire ethanol, either through stealing Highwaymen supplies and tanker trucks, or as an added reward acquired through taking over the Highwaymen's outposts in typical post Far Cry 3 fashion. Another new feature is "Expeditions," where a surviving Quebecois helicopter pilot that resides in Prosperity will take the Captain to locations across post-apocalyptic America in order to steal from particularly lucrative supply stashes kept by roving gangs of Highwaymen. New Dawn has the same coop and AI allied character system from 5.
The following weapons appear in the video game Far Cry 5:
Far Cry New Dawn carries over the same style of loadout from its immediate predecessor. The Captain begins with a sidearm-exclusive slot and one standard slot; two more slots can be unlocked via perk points.
All firearms are grouped into an RPG-style tier system, with a Rank 1 (gray), Rank 2 (blue) Rank 3 (purple), and Elite (gold) tiers. As the Highwaymen are grouped into similar tier levels, the player will need to acquire ethanol to level up the Gun Bench in Prosperity in order to unlock each successive tier to Elite, and also have the needed materials to craft each weapon. Paid currency can be used to buy higher tier weapons if one desires to do so.
Ammunition is again determined by weapon subtypes, with generic "Handgun," "SMG," "Rifle," etc. types. It can either be found in-game or crafted from a weapons station or trader simply with the Copper raw material. Special ammo types can also be unlocked through upgrading Prosperity's Explosives Lab. These again are simply crafted from copper, but include AP rounds, incendiary, and explosive rounds. The lower tier weapons cannot change ammo types; unfortunately, the feature is limited to the purple and gold tiers. While roving tradesman will be found in the game world, they no longer can give the player weapons, only supplies and tradeable maps.
As with Far Cry 5's DLC, weapon customization is completely absent in New Dawn. Some low-tier firearms have upgraded variants in the higher tiers, and some weapons only exist kitted-out as late-game power weapon rewards. Once the Weapons Workbench is upgraded to level 3, the ability to upgrade weapons for a certain amount of resources is unlocked. This allows lower tier weapons to receive an increase in damage potential and be viable against higher-tier enemies, though the resource cost may become a bit prohibitive.
Pistols
Beretta 92FS
A rather worn Beretta 92FS is unlocked at the Weapon Workbench's second tier, and serves as a straight upgrade over the dilapidated SW1911. It features a hastily put together reflex sight affixed over the front of slide, and is unfortunately stuck with a 10-round magazine thanks to New Dawn lacking weapon customization.
Properly returning from Far Cry 4, the Beretta 93R "Auto 9" appears again under the "A.J.M.9" moniker. It has two variants - the first, lower quality variant is unlocked in the third tier, and a properly suppressed Rex Power Colt variant is available in the final fourth tier. Both come in full-auto by default, but can use the fire selector ability to fire in semiauto and bursts. They also both use flush-fitting 20-round magazines.
A Desert Eagle Mark XIX is available in the final Weapon Workbench tier. This time it still deals a ridiculous amount of damage but doesn't share ammo with the ".50 Cal" category.
Also available as a gold-tier handgun, the same stubby Luger Carbine appears as the only Luger variant in New Dawn, having somehow soldiered on into 2035.
The SIG-Sauer P226 returns, this time fulfilling the niche as a suppressed pistol thanks to the lack of an ability to customize other pistols with a can. Unfortunately, this also means the P226 is restricted to using 10-rounder mags.
The 4" Smith & Wesson Model 29 appears as an alternative to the SW1911 in the starting low weapons tier. Its 6" counterpart is absent, perhaps having not survived the apocalypse.
The Smith & Wesson Model 629 again returns, using the same style of barrel as the "Cannon" variant from the previous game. It is available as a fourth-tier unlock.
As in 5, the first firearm acquired is the Smith & Wesson SW1911 .45 caliber handgun. It only appears as a low quality tiered sidearm, without any advanced variants.
The same Cobray M11/9 is still around in 2035, still under Ubisoft's signature "SMG-11" designation. It is the first SMG unlocked and only appears in the gray tier. Lower-end Highwaymen specialists keep Cobrays as backups in case the Captain gets close. It is also stuck with a paltry 24-round capacity.
Another recent series staple, the vz. 61 Skorpion is available as a higher-tier machine pistol. It still has a functioning selector and has 30 rounds in standard 20-round vz. 61 magazines.
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Heckler & Koch MP5A3
The longtime standard Heckler & Koch MP5A3 of the series again returns in New Dawn. It also has the fire selector functionality despite the S-E-F lower, and is a fairly bog standard SMG held back by the lack of attachments. The MP5K from the original game is not present in this game.
Additionally, the Heckler & Koch MP5SD3 is available as the higher-tier counterpart of the MP5A3. As the base MP5 can't be suppressed and is locked into the lowest tier, the MP5SD has a bit more of a fulfilled niche.
The last machine pistol unlocked, the Intratec TEC-9 returns from 5 as an SMG grouped in the gold tier. It has been embellished with various visual tidbits, and has an oil filter suppressor and a similarly-improvised optical sight.
The PP-19 Bizon-2 reappears from 5's zombie DLC, as an Elite tier SMG this time around. It is still a classic Far Cry mirrored model and comes with a rudimentary scope. It also gets a near-LMG level capacity of 84 rounds in the standard helical magazine.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingPP-19 Bizon-2 with side-folding stock in folded position - 9x18mm MakarovError creating thumbnail: File missingThe "BZ19" in the weapons menu. Note that the magazine appears to latch into that leather band just under the front sight. The original side-folding triangle stock also appears to have been lost to time and has an improvised replacement.
MP34
The Steyr MP34 again returns, this time as a 101-year-old design that has somehow endured into the 2030s. It is a decent tier-two SMG and features a simple reflex sight and has a correct 32-round capacity.
Another Wehrmacht holdover that has somehow endured the end of days, the Schmeisser MP40 can be unlocked as a blue tier SMG in New Dawn. As with its side-feeding analogue above, it gets a hasty reflex sight as per many of the second tier weapons.
Another modern modern Far Cry staple, the KRISS Vector appears in game as the usual "Vector .45ACP" with two variations. The first is the "Space Force" Vector, unlocked either as a tier-II reward or from the Uplay/Ubisoft Connect store. The latter is in the third tier despite appearing to be far more worn and improvised, as the "Optimized" Vector.
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Shotguns
Baikal MP-133
The same alleged Baikal MP-133 (with a lot of elements from the more fitting Remington 870) is available in New Dawn as per most of Ubisoft's recent modern games. Both the default full length and shortened configurations are available.
Appearing as a fitting post-apoc staple, a Double Barrel Shotgun is unlocked in the second tier. It offers a bit more damage potential over its counterparts, but at the obvious expense of having to reload a lot.
The staple "D2" Sawed-Off Double Barrel Shotgun is again available with a few variants. It is classified as a sidearm and can be used while piloting vehicles and with the improvised shield. The first variant, the "Sin Eater" from 5 is unlocked in tier II and is available early on to those who have played the previous game. Two more variants are available in the Elite tier, featuring fairly ludicrous damage potential.
The classic left-handed Franchi SPAS-12 is again available in New Dawn as a final-tier shotgun. It has the same monocle sight as the shorty MP-133s, and has an oil filter suppressor for the discerning stealth shotgunner.
Far Cry 5's live-service reward Winchester Model 1887 is unlocked as a purple-tier reward. It features some kind of scope, a kitchen knife affixed to the barrel as a usable bayonet, and an extended 9-round magazine tube made somehow made from piping parts. The sawn-off variant is absent.
The exact same franken Mega Arms MATEN-Daniel Defense Armalite AR-15 type carbine returns as the bog standard assault rifle wielded by survivors and Highwaymen alike in New Dawn, the latter have a corresponding paint scheme depending on their rank (usually red as seen with standard mooks). It is fairly beat up and held together with various improvised elements, and is rather held back compared to it's previous iteration due to the lack of attachments to kit the carbine out with. It also has the same multiple firemode functions, and fires at a rather fast 900RPM.
A significantly improved variant is available in the Elite tier, featuring something of an actual scope and something of a bayonet. The "AR-CL" sniper variant is not found in New Dawn.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingEmphasis on the dogs actually retrieving a lot of these things for you. The front end sling strap is gone.Error creating thumbnail: File missingThe "Rock-Paper-Scissors" AR-C. This one somehow requires an elite cougar skin to craft. The bayonet seems to be one half of a set of garden shears.Error creating thumbnail: File missingApproaching a Highwaymen scrapyard encampment with the AR-C in hand.Error creating thumbnail: File missingAiming with the makeshift iron sights. The green light isn't actually an illuminated front post, but the light from the enemy reinforcement radio box that the Captain is aiming at.Error creating thumbnail: File missingReloading the AR-C at the local inferno. The animation has been completely redone; the character brings out the new magazine first and presses them together...Error creating thumbnail: File missing...swaps them out, with the old one now pointed skyward with the muzzle...Error creating thumbnail: File missing...and if empty, the carbine is turned over and the charging handle is fumbled with until the bolt drops back and is ready to feed a new round. The Captain must still be searching for a guide on how the bolt release functions.Error creating thumbnail: File missingDuring the weapon workbench upgrade cutscene, a Prosperity woman is seen inspecting her AR-C.Error creating thumbnail: File missingThe fancy "Rock-Paper-Scissors" AR-C. It is held with a magwell grip thanks to the bayonet and weird metal construction under the handguard.Error creating thumbnail: File missingIts scope appears to be one of the same models from 5, with some external addons.Error creating thumbnail: File missingWhen empty, the Captain does a dramatic flick to discard the magazine. Hang on, is the bolt locked back in there?Error creating thumbnail: File missingMashing in a new mag...Error creating thumbnail: File missing...and clapping the bolt release. Perhaps the Captain's gravestone will commemorate that they finally uncovered the mystery of what a bolt release was.
AKM
As with 5, several AKM variants are available in New Dawn. The classic model is unlocked in the blue tier, the "Optimized AKMS" variant comes next in the purple tier, and lastly "Radiation Pink" is unlocked in the gold tier. In true communist fashion, all three feature bayonets, and in true capitalist fashion, they all somehow hold 40 rounds in 30-rounder-sized magazines.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingAKM - 7.62x39mmError creating thumbnail: File missingThis one actually has something of a bracket on the left side of the receiver, although it appears to be helping hold the Avtomat together.Error creating thumbnail: File missingGood thing the Captain is a legend. Note the Zastava M85-style pistol grip on these variants.Error creating thumbnail: File missingA Radiation Pink shortened AKM to go with your radiation tan. Presumably, the bayonet was a pair of shears split between this and the "Optimized" variant.Error creating thumbnail: File missingThe Captain and his AKM observe an unusual siege tactic of the Highwayman.Error creating thumbnail: File missingReloading the AK, the animations are identical to 5, much to Carmina's dislike.Error creating thumbnail: File missingDuring the actual siege of Prosperity, a Highwayman runner finds his jaw as a receptacle for the Captain's bayonet.Error creating thumbnail: File missingCrouch running with the AKM out on an Expedition to a Highwayman outpost over the Colorado River near the Grand Canyon. Here the missing rear sight is visible, as is the lack of an actual top section in the AKM's front trunnion. The top part of the bolt carrier that extends into the gas tube is totally absent here.Error creating thumbnail: File missingThe replacement rear sight is a bit too low to really be of use, not that it'd really help anyway.
Colt M16A1
Hours of Darkness's M16A1 appears as one of the gold-tier assault rifle unlocks. It has various embellishments, including a permanently-affixed optic atop the carry handle, and a screwdriver bayonet affixed at the seven-o'clock of the front sight/gas block. It still feeds from standard thirty-round STANAGs and has an overgassed 900RPM rate-of-fire.
Once a live service reward in the previous game, the HS Produkt VHS-D2 is available in this game as an Elite tier reward. It fulfills a niche as serving as the suppressed, scoped assault rifle. The VHS gets 40 rounds in thirty round mags, and has the full fire selector functionality.
The Marlin Model 1894, specifically the "45/70-T" variant from the last game, is available as a rifle in the blue tier. It features a primitive optical sight made from some sort of threaded valve, and a similarly ghetto sound suppressor. Given its early unlock status, it is especially handy for stealth raids on Highwaymen bases, Expeditions, and some story missions.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingModern Marlin Model 1894 - .44 MagnumError creating thumbnail: File missingThe shortened 1894 is a bit hard to properly snipe with, but is better suited for sneaking up and picking off Highwaymen sentries. Despite the valve added under the barrel, it is unfortunately limited to a meager four shots.
M14 Rifle
The M14 is available in the third tier as a suppressed DMR-style rifle. As with the last game, it is restricted to semi-auto and only holds fifteen shots in standard twenty-rounders. The M1A SOCOM 16 variant is not found in this game.
The same CZ 527 "308 Carbine" is present in New Dawn as a tier II sniper rifle, this time with some actual statistical value over the starting SVD. It only appears with a sniper scope, and still has a five shot capacity.
The Desert Tech Hard Target Interdiction is again available in two forms, the first as the "Optimized MBP .50" in the purple tier, and the "Guerilla-Gear MBP .50" in the gold tier. Both exclusively feature sniper scopes and suppressors.
The Hungarian Gepard GM6 Lynx is once again found in New Dawn, and again as the penultimate sniper rifle. Two variants are present in the Elite tier, the "Length of Pipe SA-50" and the "Space Force SA-50." They have distinct advantages over the HTI in terms of semi-automatic function, though both have the same ten-shot magazine capacity.
The SVD Dragunov from Hours of Darkness appears right off the bat as the default marksmen's rifle in post-apocalyptic Hope County, having replaced the odd "AR-CL" variant from the previous game. It again uses a mirrored model, but more notable has been cut down into practically some sort of close-quarters carbine despite its sniper role. Additionally, the psuedo PSO-1-style scope is again victim to the end of days, and is instead replaced with some attempt at putting together a combat optic with salvaged wares. It is also again unfortunately stuck with ten-round magazines half loaded to five shots.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingIzhmash Tiger SVD - 7.62x54mm RError creating thumbnail: File missingPreviewing the default SVD - note the wildly shortened barrel and handguard. Actually headshotting someone at 100 yards with this would be a feat given the likely fireball and recoil.Error creating thumbnail: File missingThe alleged "Claymore" SVD, not to be confused with the antipersonnel mine of the same name. If anything, this stubby rifle is more akin to a shortsword.
Machine Guns
M249 SAW
Far Cry 5's M249 SAW variant is available in New Dawn under a few variants. The technically-first variant found in the blue tier is the "Wrath M249," unlocked as part of Hurk's bundle. The later two are unlocked in the purple tier and don't really have any significant differences. All use an improvised gunsight, collapsed paratrooper stocks, and have 160-round belts in classic 200-round Minimi drums.
Hours of Darkness's classic M60 appears as a second tier unlock, and functions as a higher-quality upgrade over the E4 variant seen below. It features the same homemade reflex sight that's found in many of the other blue tier weapons, and feeds from 100-round loose belts.
The same foregrip-less M60E4 appears again as the default machine gun in New Dawn. It is available in the gray tier, and is stuck with rather paltry 50-round belts and deals similarly meager damage. Highwaymen machine gunners carry M60E4s with a red paint scheme as their default MG.
An MG42 is unlocked in the Elite tier as the final machine gun and serves as an awesome power weapon given its fairly ludicrous damage output and 200-round belts. It is the same oddball model originally from Far Cry 4, with the chainsaw foregrip and removed stock.
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Launchers
RPG-7
The old school RPG variant that was leftover in 5 and formally included as part of Hours of Darkness appears in this game and is the only RPG variant left in Hope County - the Airtronic model must have been lost to the apocalypse. It is the lowest tier explosive launcher available in-game.
The same truncated and stylized Carl Gustav M4 returns from 5, and appears under a couple of variants in New Dawn. The "Makeshift RAT4" and "Blast-Off RAT4" appear in the second tier - the latter is part of the paid Hurk content pack. Lastly, an "Optimized" variant is unlocked in the third tier.
Enduring the fires of the apocalypse, the same stylized LPO-50 flamethrower is present in New Dawn again as the primary means of setting fire to the superblooming vegetation in Hope County. It has four variants, with an initial "Rusty" model in the first tier that is also carried by Highwaymen pyros. The "Optimized" variant isn't unlocked until the third tier, and two final "Weedkiller" and "Unicorn" versions are a part of the Elite gold tier.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingLPO-50 flamethrowerError creating thumbnail: File missingOne would think that a usable fire extinguisher would make for a good hard counter to these, although its understandable that those are all probably gone after the apocalypse.Error creating thumbnail: File missingAs with the base version above, note the missing stock, replacement tubing, added pilot lighter, and a monkey wrench serving as the lever to unlock the fuel canister. Which is seemingly made from three of the game's normal improvised suppressors tied together and filled with some sort of petroleum jelly.Error creating thumbnail: File missingThe "Weedkiller" variant finally gains a stock made from the handle of a shovel, and has some sort of protrusion on the added heat shield.Error creating thumbnail: File missingClearly this is the pinnacle of Soviet flamethrowers in Montana. Aside from the horn, the model appears to be fairly unmolested akin to the previous games.
M79 Grenade Launcher
The sawn-down M79 grenade launcher "pirate pistol" returns from previous titles, having soldiered on through the apocalypse. Two variants are exclusively available in the gold tier, one being the "Bison Burger M-79" that requires a pelt from an elite buffalo to craft, and a "Color Spray" version that's instead a lot more resource intensive to craft and will probably require the Captain to pursue a few extra Expedition runs. They both use the "40mm" ammo found in game, and can load an incendiary round unlocked from the fully upgraded Explosives Lab.
While fixed wing aircraft are all but gone in 2035, some Browning M2 Aircraft guns are still found on ground vehicles and the "Lammergeier" helicopter.
Nick Rye's "Carmina" has still lived on into New Dawn, this time without wings and instead as a kind of amphibious airboat. Its M134 Minigun has been relocated into the nose where the original propeller and engine were.
M120 mortars are somehow still around in 2035, and can be found in a few stronghold outposts. The same geosynchronous satellite-powered aiming system is also still in working order.
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