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::There's also a Beretta PM12 in between the MP5Ks and Uzis. Most of the guns on the bottom are hard to ID, but there's a couple of obvious M4/M16 variants.--[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] ([[User talk:Lynx|talk]]) 10:58, 5 February 2017 (EST) | ::There's also a Beretta PM12 in between the MP5Ks and Uzis. Most of the guns on the bottom are hard to ID, but there's a couple of obvious M4/M16 variants.--[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] ([[User talk:Lynx|talk]]) 10:58, 5 February 2017 (EST) | ||
:::Two of those tall shotguns are Benelli M4s, and it looks like there are two SG553s behind them, in addition to regular Beretta AR 70s.--[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:47, 5 February 2017 (EST) | :::Two of those tall shotguns are Benelli M4s, and it looks like there are two SG553s behind them, in addition to regular Beretta AR 70s.--[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:47, 5 February 2017 (EST) | ||
== Just saw it == | |||
So let me start by saying that if you're a fan of the first, chances are you'll love this one, I did. The action was beautifully choreographed and shot, and the world of the continental was expanded upon really well. Now for the guns I saw. Bear with me because the movie moved really fast and a lot of guns were used, but this is what I remember. | |||
-HK P30L - Same gun from the first movie, used by John in the opening fight briefly. Later seen buried under John's floor. | |||
-Kel-Tech KSG - Seen briefly being buried underneath John's floor in the beginning. | |||
-Coharie Arms CA-415 - Buried alongside the KSG and another gun I couldn't identify. | |||
-Glock 26 - Also seen alongside the P30L being buried. | |||
-Glock 34 - Main sidearm used by John in Rome, Had either the TTI or Salient modification. It was specifically referred to as the Glock 34 by "The Sommelier" (armorer). He also mentioned it's Austrian roots as well as the German roots of the P30. | |||
-Glock 27 - Also used by John in Rome. Also provided by The Sommelier. It may have been a Glock 26 but I seem to remember him calling it the 27, I could be wrong though. Used in a fistfight with Cassien. | |||
-Benelli M4 - Also used by John in Rome. Also provided by The Sommelier. Referred to by name and it's Italian roots are directly mentioned. | |||
-TTI TR-1 - Final weapon used by John in Rome (I believe). Once again, provided by The Sommelier. He refers to it as an AR-15, and the specifications of it's attachments were mentioned but unfortunately I cannot remember them. Also appears to be used by Ares men in the final battle | |||
-Kimber Warrior - Used by John as well as countless other assassins including Ares ([[Ruby Rose]]). Seen in both suppressed and unsuppressed modes, both of which are used by John. The Bowery King ([[Laurence Fishburne]]) provides one to John before the climax. He specifically refers to it as a "Kimber 1911" and also mentions it's seven round capacity, which also annoys John. The final gun John handles in the film. | |||
-Grey Glock? - Used by Cassien ([[Common]]) while pursuing John through New York. Appeared to be a grey Colored Glock with a matching grey suppressor. Could be a custom gun or could be something entirely different, I didn't get a clear look at it. | |||
-Various handguns - Used by multiple assassins attempting to kill John in New York. Appeared to be an assortment of Glocks, Kimbers, and HKs in suppressed and unsuppressed forms. Didn't get a clear view of them. John procures many of them from the assassins he kills throughout. | |||
-Beretta Cheetah - Appeared to be used by one of The Bowery King's men who saves John. Seen suppressed. Also used, unsuppressed, by Santino D'Antonio ([[Riccardo Scamarcio]]) | |||
-Bowery King arsenal - Various weapons, many the same as seen earlier in the film, however I did notice what appeared to be an RPG-7 in one of the racks. | |||
-Glock 17 - Carried by nearly all of Santino's men. Multiple are used by John in the finale, with him procuring a new one every time he runs out of ammo in the previous one. | |||
-Sig SG 550 and 552 - Used by Ares' men in the finale. Some appeared to lack rear iron sights. | |||
Thats about it. Cassien used a handgun during his fight with John in Rome, but I never got a clear view of it. Also in the finale Ares's men used a collection of AR-15s and I believe a few SMGs. I couldn't quite tell what models the SMGs were, however they appeared to be HKs and also lacked rear iron sights, though I could just be rememebering the Sigs and imagining that they used SMGs (Quite likely to be honest, It was a late showing and I'm fairly tired). I'm sure I missed several guns, as like I said this was a gun heavy movie, however i will comment that many of the same models appeared repeatedly, probably props being reused. Both The Bowery King and The Sommelier had large arsenals with numerous guns I was unable to Identify. Sorry for missing some things, the movie moved at a breakneck pace and I didn't always have time to appreciate the action on screen and notice what guns we're being used.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 05:09, 10 February 2017 (EST) | |||
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SO MUCH YES --PyramidHead (talk) 21:24, 6 October 2016 (EDT)
- I KNOW!!! Excalibur01 (talk) 10:43, 7 October 2016 (EDT)
- The hype is real!--AnActualAK47 (talk) 20:44, 8 October 2016 (EDT)
- And then there's me: I think the film looks generic.--SeanWolf (talk) 21:17, 8 October 2016 (EDT)
- It really is, but it's not how original a story can be. The best thing you can do to a generic type of character is to have pretty good acting and for us here, awesome gun play and John Wick is awesome at the gun play. Excalibur01 (talk) 16:59, 12 October 2016 (EDT)
- And then there's me: I think the film looks generic.--SeanWolf (talk) 21:17, 8 October 2016 (EDT)
- The hype is real!--AnActualAK47 (talk) 20:44, 8 October 2016 (EDT)
So, any special reason he's using some fancy Glock and AR-15 from a company no one has heard of? Why not give him his old P30 and HK416 back? Why do armorers keep buying overpriced Glocks with fancy aftermarket parts?--Mandolin (talk) 23:35, 8 October 2016 (EDT)
- Taran Tactical isn't an unknown company. It might not be as famous or infamous as Salient, but it's known enough in some circles. They also trained Will Smith for Suicide Squad. Excalibur01 (talk) 11:11, 9 October 2016 (EDT)
- I'm pretty sure Keanu Reeves trained with them for the movie.--Quarax (talk) 00:35, 9 October 2016 (EDT)
- Yep. They even had a contest perfect for us.--Quarax (talk) 00:39, 9 October 2016 (EDT)
- Here's the same videoon youtube for those who loathe facebook. Anyway, i think those tacticooled glocks sorta fit in a silly movie like John Wick. Then again, the only other movies where i've ever seen these types of pimped guns are the Transformers movies and 13 hours.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 09:23, 9 October 2016 (EDT)
- It makes a sort of sense in a way of people of expensive groups will buy expensive things, including guns if need be. Excalibur01 (talk) 09:59, 10 October 2016 (EDT)
- One of the unseen henchmen on the poster (on the right) appears to be holding a P30L with the same compensator from the first film. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 11:00, 9 October 2016 (EDT)
- Here's the same videoon youtube for those who loathe facebook. Anyway, i think those tacticooled glocks sorta fit in a silly movie like John Wick. Then again, the only other movies where i've ever seen these types of pimped guns are the Transformers movies and 13 hours.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 09:23, 9 October 2016 (EDT)
Here's another vid of him training with Aaron Cohen, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKISkjMtPU Excalibur01 (talk) 17:00, 12 October 2016 (EDT)
Please help ID
Please help ID this launcher. --Ben41 (talk) 14:30, 19 December 2016 (EST)
- Looks like an ARWEN 37 to me.--BlackHawk510 (talk) 15:09, 19 December 2016 (EST)
Glock
Looks like the Glock that was used in this film is currently on display at SHOT Show: https://scontent.fdet1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15977767_10154301140996134_2975412249705260393_n.jpg?oh=e720456e623db93a6644ca3c46a432c9&oe=591FE97A
Lynx (talk) 12:05, 19 January 2017 (EST)
- Cool--AnActualAK47 (talk) 12:38, 19 January 2017 (EST)
- Apparently he's also carrying a Taran Glock 26 too, if Glock themselves are to be believed.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 10:07, 27 January 2017 (EST)
- There's a short clip ad of the scene where John Wick talks to the gun guy about what gun recommendations. He suggested a Glock 34, a Glock 26 as well as an "AR-15" and Benelli M4 Excalibur01 (talk) 10:57, 27 January 2017 (EST)
- Got a link to that clip?--AnActualAK47 (talk) 11:36, 27 January 2017 (EST)
- I've been trying to look for it, but it only appears as an ad every time I watch a Youtube vid. Excalibur01 (talk) 14:28, 27 January 2017 (EST)
Nevermind. Found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgxWQADcWXI Excalibur01 (talk) 14:29, 27 January 2017 (EST)
- That's neat. I guess all those guns have some Taran tactical thing going on with them...--AnActualAK47 (talk) 15:18, 27 January 2017 (EST)
Armory
Grabbed a couple more shots of the armory from the trailer. Does anyone know what the rifles that are hanging horizontally are? I can't place them, and it's bugging me. --Lynx (talk) 11:45, 3 February 2017 (EST)
- Beretta AR70/90?--AgentGumby (talk) 12:16, 3 February 2017 (EST)
- Yep, seems like a AR70/90--Flavio (talk) 13:56, 3 February 2017 (EST)
- Looks like the 90 to be specific.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 14:31, 3 February 2017 (EST)
- Yep, seems like a AR70/90--Flavio (talk) 13:56, 3 February 2017 (EST)
- In Picture #1 I see several Glock 17s on the top shelf and what looks like a Glock 17L on the very far right. The shelf below that has a compact SIG P220 series handgun (not sure which), a VP9, and two empty spots which is likely where John got his two Glocks below. The one below that has two Beretta 92 handguns, and another that I can't identify (looked kind of like a compact Walther P99 or Springfield XD but I don't think it is.) The bottom shelf is mostly unidentifiable but the one on the furthest right looks kind of like a HK Mark 23 to me. Leaning against that shelf is an M79. The right most shelf has more Glock 17s, two two-tone SIG-Sauer P226s, and a Beretta 93R. There's another 93R and a Px4 on the one below that.
- In Picture #2 I see MP5Ks, two of which have compensators attached and several Uzis/Mini-Uzis. To the right of those are a bunch of MP5s, some of which have Surefire lights installed. Can't identify the shotguns, sadly.
--Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 21:02, 3 February 2017 (EST)
- There's also a Beretta PM12 in between the MP5Ks and Uzis. Most of the guns on the bottom are hard to ID, but there's a couple of obvious M4/M16 variants.--Lynx (talk) 10:58, 5 February 2017 (EST)
- Two of those tall shotguns are Benelli M4s, and it looks like there are two SG553s behind them, in addition to regular Beretta AR 70s.--AgentGumby (talk) 11:47, 5 February 2017 (EST)
- There's also a Beretta PM12 in between the MP5Ks and Uzis. Most of the guns on the bottom are hard to ID, but there's a couple of obvious M4/M16 variants.--Lynx (talk) 10:58, 5 February 2017 (EST)
Just saw it
So let me start by saying that if you're a fan of the first, chances are you'll love this one, I did. The action was beautifully choreographed and shot, and the world of the continental was expanded upon really well. Now for the guns I saw. Bear with me because the movie moved really fast and a lot of guns were used, but this is what I remember.
-HK P30L - Same gun from the first movie, used by John in the opening fight briefly. Later seen buried under John's floor.
-Kel-Tech KSG - Seen briefly being buried underneath John's floor in the beginning.
-Coharie Arms CA-415 - Buried alongside the KSG and another gun I couldn't identify.
-Glock 26 - Also seen alongside the P30L being buried.
-Glock 34 - Main sidearm used by John in Rome, Had either the TTI or Salient modification. It was specifically referred to as the Glock 34 by "The Sommelier" (armorer). He also mentioned it's Austrian roots as well as the German roots of the P30.
-Glock 27 - Also used by John in Rome. Also provided by The Sommelier. It may have been a Glock 26 but I seem to remember him calling it the 27, I could be wrong though. Used in a fistfight with Cassien.
-Benelli M4 - Also used by John in Rome. Also provided by The Sommelier. Referred to by name and it's Italian roots are directly mentioned.
-TTI TR-1 - Final weapon used by John in Rome (I believe). Once again, provided by The Sommelier. He refers to it as an AR-15, and the specifications of it's attachments were mentioned but unfortunately I cannot remember them. Also appears to be used by Ares men in the final battle
-Kimber Warrior - Used by John as well as countless other assassins including Ares (Ruby Rose). Seen in both suppressed and unsuppressed modes, both of which are used by John. The Bowery King (Laurence Fishburne) provides one to John before the climax. He specifically refers to it as a "Kimber 1911" and also mentions it's seven round capacity, which also annoys John. The final gun John handles in the film.
-Grey Glock? - Used by Cassien (Common) while pursuing John through New York. Appeared to be a grey Colored Glock with a matching grey suppressor. Could be a custom gun or could be something entirely different, I didn't get a clear look at it.
-Various handguns - Used by multiple assassins attempting to kill John in New York. Appeared to be an assortment of Glocks, Kimbers, and HKs in suppressed and unsuppressed forms. Didn't get a clear view of them. John procures many of them from the assassins he kills throughout.
-Beretta Cheetah - Appeared to be used by one of The Bowery King's men who saves John. Seen suppressed. Also used, unsuppressed, by Santino D'Antonio (Riccardo Scamarcio)
-Bowery King arsenal - Various weapons, many the same as seen earlier in the film, however I did notice what appeared to be an RPG-7 in one of the racks.
-Glock 17 - Carried by nearly all of Santino's men. Multiple are used by John in the finale, with him procuring a new one every time he runs out of ammo in the previous one.
-Sig SG 550 and 552 - Used by Ares' men in the finale. Some appeared to lack rear iron sights.
Thats about it. Cassien used a handgun during his fight with John in Rome, but I never got a clear view of it. Also in the finale Ares's men used a collection of AR-15s and I believe a few SMGs. I couldn't quite tell what models the SMGs were, however they appeared to be HKs and also lacked rear iron sights, though I could just be rememebering the Sigs and imagining that they used SMGs (Quite likely to be honest, It was a late showing and I'm fairly tired). I'm sure I missed several guns, as like I said this was a gun heavy movie, however i will comment that many of the same models appeared repeatedly, probably props being reused. Both The Bowery King and The Sommelier had large arsenals with numerous guns I was unable to Identify. Sorry for missing some things, the movie moved at a breakneck pace and I didn't always have time to appreciate the action on screen and notice what guns we're being used.--One shot is all it takes. (talk) 05:09, 10 February 2017 (EST)