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[[Image:Pb-1.jpg|thumb|none|401px|Makarov PB with integral suppressor - 9x18mm Makarov]] | [[Image:Pb-1.jpg|thumb|none|401px|Makarov PB with integral suppressor - 9x18mm Makarov]] | ||
[[Image:Ts PM supressed.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Gangster fires silenced PM.]] | [[Image:Ts PM supressed.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Gangster fires silenced PM.]] | ||
== MP5K == | |||
New high quality version of screenshots makes me think that MP5K is based on [[Heckler_%26_Koch_MP5#Daisy_Softair_Model_15_MP-5K|Daisy Softair Model 15 MP-5K]] replica or something similar. [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-D8AAOSwgBNaqdjL/s-l1600.jpg Here] is a photo of this replica on the same side that in the movie. It has a different handguard but note that the screen gun lacks SEF indicator on right side, just as Daisy replica, while real guns have it. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:16, 18 March 2018 (EDT) | |||
Revision as of 20:16, 18 March 2018
Revolver? Hmm... maybe Reck Agent? Pyramid Silent (talk) 17:32, 7 December 2015 (EST)
- Here (the link in Russian) the revolver is guessed to be a Stechkin-Avraamov RSA (aka OTs-01 Kobalt) but I strongly doubt in it as this revolver was manufactured only from 1992. Greg-Z (talk) 12:08, 8 December 2015 (EST)
- I think that the identification of the revolver as RSA is too unreliable. The movie was released in 1992 while first 100 pieces of RSA were manufactured only in 1993. Only the general shape of the revolver can be seen in the movie, and there are many models that have the same outlook. Greg-Z (talk) 02:27, 11 December 2015 (EST)
- Revolver probably Smith & Wesson Model 10. Anyway, it is much more logical, and the similarity is very great. --Slon95 (talk) 15:44, 22 February 2016 (EST)
- It looks to have a slightly slanted and shrouded ejector rod, which would rule out a S&W Model 10. Not that Reck Agent as it's got a longer barrel than that one. As it stands I honestly think it's difficult if not impossible to make any definitive ID. StanTheMan (talk) 19:41, 22 February 2016 (EST)
- Revolver probably Smith & Wesson Model 10. Anyway, it is much more logical, and the similarity is very great. --Slon95 (talk) 15:44, 22 February 2016 (EST)
- I think that the identification of the revolver as RSA is too unreliable. The movie was released in 1992 while first 100 pieces of RSA were manufactured only in 1993. Only the general shape of the revolver can be seen in the movie, and there are many models that have the same outlook. Greg-Z (talk) 02:27, 11 December 2015 (EST)
Wow
Is that an XM148 grenade launcher? --Funkychinaman (talk) 17:35, 7 December 2015 (EST)
- Thanks for help. I myself was surprised that it was not the usual M203. --Slon95 (talk) 17:44, 7 December 2015 (EST)
- I wonder how XM148 could appear in Russian movie. The only guess is that is was a trophy from Vietnam that was delivered to USSR and later it was transferred to a film studio. Greg-Z (talk) 11:58, 8 December 2015 (EST)
- I figured it was a trophy from Vietnam. But given the rarity, I'm surprised it ended up in a movie rather than a museum. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:00, 8 December 2015 (EST)
- I wonder how XM148 could appear in Russian movie. The only guess is that is was a trophy from Vietnam that was delivered to USSR and later it was transferred to a film studio. Greg-Z (talk) 11:58, 8 December 2015 (EST)
![[1]](http://www.mosfilm.ru/upload/iblock/f2e/f2eb5f20e06096f6fcd8ba678802916a.jpg){kind=link}
Shotgun
Maybe, I'm wrong, but the shotgun looks like the Harrington & Richardson Pardner Pump. Pyramid Silent (talk) 10:10, 8 December 2015 (EST)
- Hardly this shotgun could appear in Russian movie in early 1990s. As for me, an early version of Mossberg 500 with wooden furniture is more possible. Greg-Z (talk) 11:29, 8 December 2015 (EST)
- I would suggest Mossberg 500 as well. --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:51, 8 December 2015 (EST)
Suppressed PM
I think that the suppressed PM is a genuine PB. The shape of the suppressor matches this version. Greg-Z (talk) 15:01, 9 December 2015 (EST)
MP5K
New high quality version of screenshots makes me think that MP5K is based on Daisy Softair Model 15 MP-5K replica or something similar. Here is a photo of this replica on the same side that in the movie. It has a different handguard but note that the screen gun lacks SEF indicator on right side, just as Daisy replica, while real guns have it. Greg-Z (talk) 16:16, 18 March 2018 (EDT)
