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Is it possible to reload an MP5 like described in the text regarding the 2015 version? Wouldn't pulling the charging handle back, then reloading and moving it forwards again make it an open bolt weapon? Ir is it possible to reload closed bolt weapons like that? [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 18:12, 7 August 2015 (EDT) | Is it possible to reload an MP5 like described in the text regarding the 2015 version? Wouldn't pulling the charging handle back, then reloading and moving it forwards again make it an open bolt weapon? Ir is it possible to reload closed bolt weapons like that? [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 18:12, 7 August 2015 (EDT) | ||
:As described is correct. On the MP5 there is a hook at the back of the charging handle slot, which means that the bolt can be retracted and the charging handle turned upwards slightly to lock the bolt to the rear. At this point you can put in a new magazine, and then when it is in place you can "slap" the charging handle out of the slot which allows the bolt to go forwards and load the first round from the magazine. This is exactly the same in concept to any other closed bolt weapon that can have the bolt held open (either by being locked open on an empty mag or manually as is the case with the MP5). On an open bolt weapon, when you pull the charging handle back it would stay to the rear without having to engage it in a hold open slot (although a lot of open bolt guns do have a similar notch which acts as a safety of sorts), and generally the only way to get the bolt to go forward is to pull the trigger. However, when the text says "one mid-magazine where the magazines are simply swapped (which can be difficult to do on an MP5 with a full magazine and the bolt closed, hence the usual HK slap)", this isn't really true. Well, it is sort of true but only if the incorrectly try to use a magazine loaded with 31 rounds rather than the 30 rounds it is designed for. The taught method is still to lock the bolt back during a reload though, but I do not believe this is actually to do with making the magazine easier to insert (although it does eliminate a potential problem if you didn't pay attention when loading your magazines), but rather it is done to make sure there is not chance of you riding the bolt forward as instead you slap it free of the hold open notch. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:33, 7 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
::As I recall I got that from a manual for the MP5, IIRC it says it can be difficult with I think 28 or more and recommends the HK slap, and that it's outright impossible if there's more than 30. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 03:01, 9 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
Thanks for the answer, I didn't know you could lock the bolt back first before reloading on closed bolt weapons. I guess that's what happens when one never has operated a real weapon. [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 19:04, 7 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
:A lot of close bolt weapons have a lock bolt open feature. If you look up any of your favorite guns, a lot of the modern stuff has this feature. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 23:48, 7 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
==A couple of questions== | |||
Firstly, where exactly is the BGM-71 TOW found? So that I get a quick location to take screenshots. And secondly, would the satchel charge and laser tripmine qualify in this page or not? --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 07:36, 21 October 2017 (EDT) | |||
:[https://youtu.be/wKTvp7naj68?t=19226 Here], it's the level after the annoying missile silo that explodes and kills you instantly if headcrabs do anything. Also seems to be a Bradley [https://youtu.be/wKTvp7naj68?t=18384 here a bit earlier on] and Abrams [https://youtu.be/wKTvp7naj68?t=20183 here] a bit later and another [https://youtu.be/wKTvp7naj68?t=20329 here]. Not sure if the M202 FLASH-thing in On A Rail is still there, can't find video of it. For the latter, I'd say you could include them for trivia, if only to say the laser tripmine is based on the one from Duke Nukem rather than being a real weapon. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 12:57, 21 October 2017 (EDT) | |||
::Alright. For the record, no, there's no M202 FLASH in BM. Instead, before you go up to send the rocket up into orbit, one of the soldiers next to an M2HB emplacement fires a single missile at you from a futuristic Armbrust and then switches to an MP5. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 07:24, 24 October 2017 (EDT) | |||
== Xen, finally == | |||
https://youtu.be/TAIJich73NY | |||
--[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 09:29, 23 November 2018 (EST) | |||
::Wow, only six years after the original mod was released! (And that mod took ''seven'' years to be released!) It boggles my mind to think that I was 20 years old and in college when I first heard of this mod. Now I’m 33. Oh well, I enjoyed the Black Mesa content, so I’m sure this will be worth the wait. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 10:34, 23 November 2018 (EST) | |||
== is the python actually an anaconda? == | |||
all of its traits apart from its chambering and markings (trigger guard shape, screw placement above the trigger guard) match the anaconda rather than the python [[User:TheExplodingBarrel|TheExplodingBarrel]] ([[User talk:TheExplodingBarrel|talk]]) 17:31, 6 March 2019 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 22:31, 6 March 2019
Need update
This page hasn't been updated since a long time. For example, the MP5 model has been changed a long time ago. I will try to rewrite the page soon and upload some new images.
Oops, I must have an account to upload new files, can someone upload these images?
New MP5 after firing a grenade
Another shot of new SPAS-12 model.
- Is this mod ever coming out? I remember when I was looking forward to it...five years ago! At this point, it's become the Duke Nukem Forever of mods. -MT2008 17:56, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
The mod is completed in about 80-90%, so it will come out in a few months. Maybe even during holidays.
Soon enough Excalibur01 03:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
http://forums.blackmesasource.com/showpost.php?p=241467&postcount=796 For those who are interested, here is the planned release date.
Oh beautiful. The next TWELVE MONTHS they say. I know it's hard to make a game up from scratch, but this is just taking too long and the hype is a killer Excalibur01 17:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Well, so it turns out that Black Mesa is finally being released this month (September 2012). It's also funny that I did not even remember discussing the release date on this very page until I just glanced at it now (because I made the above comment more than two years ago). -MT2008 10:26, 3 September 2012 (CDT)
- I'll see what I can do about taking some in game shots and uploading them to the page sometime today. I've been busy playing all night. Some things have changed from what's up on the page now. - EvanAzzo
Title change
I moved this to Black Mesa, since the Source part was removed long ago at the request of Valve. --Milkovich 13:00, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Weapon models changed
The retail release changed some of the weapon models. Anyone have some pics?Temp89 (talk)
- Faaaak they slowed down the RoF of the SPAS-12's double fire function. Oh and they added new sprinting animations for weapons, but apparently they forgot to do this to the crossbow lol. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 15:49, 5 June 2015 (EDT)
MP5 Reloading?
Is it possible to reload an MP5 like described in the text regarding the 2015 version? Wouldn't pulling the charging handle back, then reloading and moving it forwards again make it an open bolt weapon? Ir is it possible to reload closed bolt weapons like that? Z008MJ (talk) 18:12, 7 August 2015 (EDT)
- As described is correct. On the MP5 there is a hook at the back of the charging handle slot, which means that the bolt can be retracted and the charging handle turned upwards slightly to lock the bolt to the rear. At this point you can put in a new magazine, and then when it is in place you can "slap" the charging handle out of the slot which allows the bolt to go forwards and load the first round from the magazine. This is exactly the same in concept to any other closed bolt weapon that can have the bolt held open (either by being locked open on an empty mag or manually as is the case with the MP5). On an open bolt weapon, when you pull the charging handle back it would stay to the rear without having to engage it in a hold open slot (although a lot of open bolt guns do have a similar notch which acts as a safety of sorts), and generally the only way to get the bolt to go forward is to pull the trigger. However, when the text says "one mid-magazine where the magazines are simply swapped (which can be difficult to do on an MP5 with a full magazine and the bolt closed, hence the usual HK slap)", this isn't really true. Well, it is sort of true but only if the incorrectly try to use a magazine loaded with 31 rounds rather than the 30 rounds it is designed for. The taught method is still to lock the bolt back during a reload though, but I do not believe this is actually to do with making the magazine easier to insert (although it does eliminate a potential problem if you didn't pay attention when loading your magazines), but rather it is done to make sure there is not chance of you riding the bolt forward as instead you slap it free of the hold open notch. --commando552 (talk) 18:33, 7 August 2015 (EDT)
Thanks for the answer, I didn't know you could lock the bolt back first before reloading on closed bolt weapons. I guess that's what happens when one never has operated a real weapon. Z008MJ (talk) 19:04, 7 August 2015 (EDT)
- A lot of close bolt weapons have a lock bolt open feature. If you look up any of your favorite guns, a lot of the modern stuff has this feature. Excalibur01 (talk) 23:48, 7 August 2015 (EDT)
A couple of questions
Firstly, where exactly is the BGM-71 TOW found? So that I get a quick location to take screenshots. And secondly, would the satchel charge and laser tripmine qualify in this page or not? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 07:36, 21 October 2017 (EDT)
- Here, it's the level after the annoying missile silo that explodes and kills you instantly if headcrabs do anything. Also seems to be a Bradley here a bit earlier on and Abrams here a bit later and another here. Not sure if the M202 FLASH-thing in On A Rail is still there, can't find video of it. For the latter, I'd say you could include them for trivia, if only to say the laser tripmine is based on the one from Duke Nukem rather than being a real weapon. Evil Tim (talk) 12:57, 21 October 2017 (EDT)
- Alright. For the record, no, there's no M202 FLASH in BM. Instead, before you go up to send the rocket up into orbit, one of the soldiers next to an M2HB emplacement fires a single missile at you from a futuristic Armbrust and then switches to an MP5. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 07:24, 24 October 2017 (EDT)
Xen, finally
--Ultimate94ninja (talk) 09:29, 23 November 2018 (EST)
- Wow, only six years after the original mod was released! (And that mod took seven years to be released!) It boggles my mind to think that I was 20 years old and in college when I first heard of this mod. Now I’m 33. Oh well, I enjoyed the Black Mesa content, so I’m sure this will be worth the wait. -MT2008 (talk) 10:34, 23 November 2018 (EST)
is the python actually an anaconda?
all of its traits apart from its chambering and markings (trigger guard shape, screw placement above the trigger guard) match the anaconda rather than the python TheExplodingBarrel (talk) 17:31, 6 March 2019 (EST)