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== Colt 1911A1 == | == Colt 1911A1 == | ||
This is the first Colt 1911A1 I have ever seen that appears to have backwards (!) slanted cocking serrations, see below image. My best guess is that this is a badly made prop. Looks highly impractical to me, with fingers slipping off the slide when cocking the gun... - [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 09:13, 31 October 2013 (EDT) | This is the first Colt 1911A1 I have ever seen that appears to have backwards (!) slanted cocking serrations, see below image. My best guess is that this is a badly made prop. Looks highly impractical to me, with fingers slipping off the slide when cocking the gun... - [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 09:13, 31 October 2013 (EDT) | ||
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:Backwards slunted serrations also can be seen in ''[[Cop's_Honor_(Parole_de_Flic)#M1911_type_pistol_.28.3F.29|Cop's Honor]]'' (though it can be that the serration is really straight and it's only an optical illusion). [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 01:31, 2 November 2013 (EDT) | |||
== Mauser C96 == | |||
As to this gun, I have two comments; (a) it's probably just one version being used in the movie because both screenshots show wooden stocks and (2) it's probably an automatic-fire variant because of the way the shooter is holding the gun by what should be an extended magazine. So, it would be either a Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer, an Astra 902/903 or some Chinese variant. The latter is not unthinkable due to the shooters coming from Taiwan - [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 09:25, 31 October 2013 (EDT) | |||
:The movie was filmed in Spain so it's Astra or Royal (it seems to me that the barrel length matches Royal better but it's only a guess). [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 13:40, 31 October 2013 (EDT) | |||
== Unidentified Guns == | |||
Schenck ([[Klaus Kinski]]) is equipped with unidentified suppressed pistol. | |||
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A spy in the car pulls an unknown pistol, resembles to the gun which holds Schenck. | |||
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Several characters are seen with unidentified suppressed SMG. | |||
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[[Image:TMiI-B+C-G02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
:Are those submachine guns ever shown genuinely firing or with the magazines being changed? To me, the mag looks too small and attaches to a too skinny part of the weapon to be a real gun. My guess would be that they are either total mock ups, or possibly a pistol which has been modified to look like an SMG. Generally, these things look more like Star Wars toys or something rather than any genuine gun. The closest sort of match I can come up with is the Parinco mod. 3R, but this would have to have been modified in what I think are impossible (and for it still to fire) ways to make it look like this. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:16, 31 October 2013 (EDT) | |||
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*That really looks like some of the secret agent toy weapons from my childhood. I well recall seeing the first and best Kommissar X film ''Kiss Kiss Kill Kill''/''X-Hunting the Unknown'' (1965) use an actual Mattel Zero-M Radio Rifle during an assassination scene.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 18:48, 31 October 2013 (EDT) | |||
== Revolver == | |||
The shape of the grip on the second screenshot resembles Arminius HW-3. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 06:57, 20 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:ArminiusC.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Arminius HW-3 - .22 caliber revolver]] | |||
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== Spy's pistol == | |||
The spy's pistol appears to be a Luger rather than a Ruger (sounds funny, really). [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 03:13, 21 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 08:45, 21 July 2015
Colt 1911A1
This is the first Colt 1911A1 I have ever seen that appears to have backwards (!) slanted cocking serrations, see below image. My best guess is that this is a badly made prop. Looks highly impractical to me, with fingers slipping off the slide when cocking the gun... - PeeWee055 (talk) 09:13, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
- Backwards slunted serrations also can be seen in Cop's Honor (though it can be that the serration is really straight and it's only an optical illusion). Greg-Z (talk) 01:31, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
Mauser C96
As to this gun, I have two comments; (a) it's probably just one version being used in the movie because both screenshots show wooden stocks and (2) it's probably an automatic-fire variant because of the way the shooter is holding the gun by what should be an extended magazine. So, it would be either a Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer, an Astra 902/903 or some Chinese variant. The latter is not unthinkable due to the shooters coming from Taiwan - PeeWee055 (talk) 09:25, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
- The movie was filmed in Spain so it's Astra or Royal (it seems to me that the barrel length matches Royal better but it's only a guess). Greg-Z (talk) 13:40, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
Unidentified Guns
Schenck (Klaus Kinski) is equipped with unidentified suppressed pistol.
A spy in the car pulls an unknown pistol, resembles to the gun which holds Schenck.
Several characters are seen with unidentified suppressed SMG.
- Are those submachine guns ever shown genuinely firing or with the magazines being changed? To me, the mag looks too small and attaches to a too skinny part of the weapon to be a real gun. My guess would be that they are either total mock ups, or possibly a pistol which has been modified to look like an SMG. Generally, these things look more like Star Wars toys or something rather than any genuine gun. The closest sort of match I can come up with is the Parinco mod. 3R, but this would have to have been modified in what I think are impossible (and for it still to fire) ways to make it look like this. --commando552 (talk) 13:16, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
- That really looks like some of the secret agent toy weapons from my childhood. I well recall seeing the first and best Kommissar X film Kiss Kiss Kill Kill/X-Hunting the Unknown (1965) use an actual Mattel Zero-M Radio Rifle during an assassination scene.Foofbun (talk) 18:48, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
Revolver
The shape of the grip on the second screenshot resembles Arminius HW-3. Greg-Z (talk) 06:57, 20 July 2015 (EDT)
Spy's pistol
The spy's pistol appears to be a Luger rather than a Ruger (sounds funny, really). Greg-Z (talk) 03:13, 21 July 2015 (EDT)