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==I would advise this page be deleted==
==I would advise this page be deleted==
The weapons are not even actual weapons, and are more like plastic/rubber toys. - [[User:1morey]] January 18, 2013 9:05 PM (EST)
The weapons are not even actual weapons, and are more like plastic/rubber toys. - [[User:1morey]] January 18, 2013 9:05 PM (EST)
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It's gone.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 23:59, 18 January 2013 (EST)
It's gone.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 23:59, 18 January 2013 (EST)


== Interim page ==
==Eligibility==
 
I've put up a poll in a new thread in the admin only section of the forum. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 21:23, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
{{WIP}}
:I don't have that kinda access, so I'm just going to drop my opinion here. I think it should be allowed. There is a lot of anime shows and movies here which obviously don't have any real guns either, and in some cases are less detailed.--[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] ([[User talk:Crazycrankle|talk]]) 00:04, 20 October 2013 (EDT)
 
::For a number of years now I have come to appreciate IMFDB and the collective wisdom of all contributors. However, this is the first time I am somewhat unpleasantly surprised. Without checking with me first, my page for Team America is deleted within a matters of hours, even though I created it with the best intentions and (as far as I understand) respecting IMFDB guidelines. Yes, some weapons are probably taken from GI Joe toy dolls, but some have just too many details to refer to as just toys and seem to be purposely build for this movie. I totally agree that the guns on this page are subject to debate, but hey, so are most anime pages. Just look at the anime pages with mostly fantasy weapons that can be found on IMFDB... Anyway, I was hoping that my 'disclaimer' in the header would be enough to avoid debate, but unfortunately it was not. I very much appreciate the admin discussion and I will respect its outcome, [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 06:57, 20 October 2013 (EDT)
{{Infobox Movie|{{Team America: World Police}}
:::Like I pointed out, if you had used the proper title, you would've seen that the page was locked. That should've been a heads up. We'll know in about a week. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:05, 20 October 2013 (EDT)
|name = Team America: World Police<br>
::::I vote it stays up. IMFDB is rather inconsistent when it comes to whether cartoons or the like can have pages. Some have generic "guns", but some have detailed ones and don't fit under anime.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 16:00, 20 October 2013 (EDT)
|picture = TAWP-poster-01.jpg
:::::There are a few animation pages that were made before we tightened up the rules as to what was acceptable, however if there is a non-anime animation that you think is eligible for inclusion then feel free to post some caps on your user page and start a topic in either the forum or the main discussion page to check that it is ok. As to whether this is eligible I go back and forth on it, but I am inclined to allow it. Firstly, the previous version were deleted not only on eligibility grounds but also because they were pretty much no-effort pages, and at least this version is complete (as far as I can remember). Also, I believe these weapons were actually made by the production company rather than just being taken from GI Joes or Hot Toys. The scale they used for the puppets was a 1:3, and although the weapons do tend to look small in the puppets hands, they are nowhere near as small as they would be if they used the 1:6 scale that you get on toys. I'm of the opinion that somebody may watch this movie and wonder what the weapons were so I think it would be good if we had a page for it. Also, it isn't like puppet films are becoming the norm and we really need to worry about setting a precedent. However I don't think it should be listed on any of the gun pages, as it would have to go under the normal film section as it isn't animated and yet there are no actual guns used in the film so to list it as such would be misleading. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:54, 20 October 2013 (EDT)
|caption =
|country = [[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] USA
|director = Trey Parker
|date = 2004
}}
 
'''''Team America: World Police''''' is a 2004 action movie about the elite counter-terrorism organization Team America: World Police. They are tasked to deal with a conspiracy between North Korean leader Kim Jong Il and a group of idealistic American actors to destroy Western civilisation with weapons of mass destruction hidden all over the world.
 
This movie being marionet-animated, all firearms used are purpose-build plastic props. However, the creators seem to have been inspired by real-life firearms used in popular action movies so most weapons used have a good degree of details. For this reason, when a certain gun is described below as e.g. ‘M16’ is should be read ‘inspired by M16’.   
{{Film Title|Team America: World Police}}
 
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=Handguns=
 
==Auto-Ordnance M1911A1==
Members of Team America use a M1911A1-type pistol with target sights as their secondary weapon. It is also seen handled by “Kim Jong Il” and Spottswoode, the leader of Team America. It is probably an [[Auto-Ordnance M1911A1]] due to the slanted grooves on the slide.
[[Image:M1911A1-AutoOrdChrome PF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Auto-Ordnance M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:TAWP-AOM1911A1-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Spottswoode holding Gary at gunpoint at the Team America HQ, note the small compensator on the [[Auto-Ordnance M1911A1]].]]
[[Image:TAWP-AOM1911A1-04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chris holding the [[Auto-Ordnance M1911A1]] as he and Gary make their way through Kim Jong Il’s palace in the finale.]]
[[Image:TAWP-AOM1911A1-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An angry-looking “Kim Jong Il” raises his [[Auto-Ordnance M1911A1]] to settle a commercial dispute.]]
 
=Submachine Guns=
 
==Heckler & Koch MP5A5==
The [[Heckler & Koch MP5A5]] is the main weapon of choice for the American actors during the final shoot-out at the peace conference at Kim Jong Il’s palace.
[[Image:H&KMP5A5.jpg|thumb|none|460px|Heckler and Koch MP5A5 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-MP5A5-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An angry “[[Tim Robbins]]” takes a  [[Heckler & Koch MP5A5]] from Kim Jong Il’s armory to confront Team America. Note the ‘A5’-style trigger group.]]
[[Image:TAWP-MP5A5-22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another American actor to face Team America is “[[Liv Tyler]]” holding her [[Heckler & Koch MP5A5]] with her left hand dangerously close to the barrel.]]
 
==Heckler & Koch MP5KA4==
Gary is armed with a pair of [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]]A4’s, mounted in shoulder holsters. Most of the time, he is seen dual-wielding them with deadly efficiency, not bad for somebody who just learned to shoot a few days earlier…
[[Image:MP5KA4.jpg|thumb|none|460px|Heckler & Koch MP5KA4 with 15-round magazine - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-MP5KA4-08.jpg|thumb|none|460px|A promotional image for Team America showing Gary holding his [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]]A4’s.]]
[[Image:TAWP-MP5KA4-03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gary disposing of some palace guards, his crossed-arms stance with the [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]] reminiscent of [[Steven Seagal]] in [[Under Siege]].]]
[[Image:TAWP-MP5KA4-05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of one of Gary’s [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]]A4’s as he is attacked by “[[Tim Robbins]]”. Note that from up close the fire selector is just a bunch of random red dots.]]
[[Image:TAWP-MP5KA4-07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gary’s [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]]A4’s are well visible in the special shoulder holsters as he addresses a crowd at the peace conference.]]
 
==Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW==
During the opening scene in Paris, Carson carries a [[Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW]] with stainless steel navy suppressor and some kind of scope. It also looks like he has two magazines taped together ‘jungle style’.
[[Image:MP5K-PDW.jpg|thumb|none|460px|MP5K-PDW with its extended barrel with 3 lugs & folding stock - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-MP5KPDW-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Carson making his way towards terrorists, note that his [[Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW]] seems to have two magazines taped together.]]
[[Image:TAWP-MP5KPDW-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The business end of Carson’s [[Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW]] as he pops up in front of escaping terrorists.]]
 
==Uzi ==
Several terrorists as well as a few American actors at the Kim Jong Il hosted ‘peace conference’ carry the IMI [[Uzi]] during fights with Team America.
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|300px|IMI Uzi with buttstock collapsed - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-UZI-03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Several terrorists can be seen armed with [[Uzi]]’s during the shootout with Team America in Egypt.]]
[[Image:TAWP-UZI-07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|”[[Ethan Hawke]]” with an [[Uzi]] as he searches for Team America members in the hallways of Kim Jong Il’s palace.]]
[[Image:TAWP-UZI-08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gary is confronted by an [[Uzi]]-wielding “[[Susan Sarandon]]” during the final shootout at the palace.]]
 
=Rifles=
 
==Blaser R93 Tactical==
Lisa carries a [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle|Blaser R93 Tactical]] sniper rifle but she’s never seen firing it. This rifle is equipped with a 10-shot magazine and the distinct muzzle break of its successor the [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle|Blaser R93 LRS2]].
[[Image:Blaser R93 Tactical (LSR1).jpg|thumb|none|460px|Blaser R93 Tactical - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-BlaserR93Tactical-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lisa disembarking from the Team Amercia helicopter, note the characteristic receiver and bottom section of the stock of the [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle|Blaser R93 Tactical]].]]
[[Image:TAWP-BlaserR93Tactical-03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lisa (left) as she and Sarah are guarding the front door of a terrorist hide-out, note that her bipod seems to have fallen off as opposed to above screenshot.]]
 
==Chinese SKS==
Several terrorists are seen carrying the Chinese [[SKS Rifle|SKS rifle]]. One of the differences that set it apart from the original Russian model is the spike-bayonet that is clearly seen in below screenshots.
[[Image:ChineseType56Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|460px|Chinese Type 56 Carbine aka the Chinese SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-ChinaSKS-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The terrorist on the right is holding a Chinese [[SKS Rifle|SKS rifle]], the distinctive spike-bayonet and the slanted magazine are well visible.]]
[[Image:TAWP-ChinaSKS-03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As Gary is talking to two terrorists in their hide-out in Egypt, there’s a detailed view of the spike-bayonet and barrel of the Chinese [[SKS Rifle|SKS rifle]].]]
 
==Zastava M76==
In the scene at the terrorist hide-out in Egypt, one terrorist is seen with a [[Zastava M76]] on his back. The rifle can be identified by the long barrel and the massive wooden hand guard with three vent holes.  
[[Image:Zastava-m76.jpg|thumb|none|460px|Zastava M76 Sniper Rifle - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:TAWP-M76-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Just an average afternoon at a terrorist’s bar; lots of guns and a belly dancer. Note that the front sight of the [[Zastava M76]] appears to be mounted up-side down!]]
 
=Assault Rifles=
 
==AIM==
During the opening shoot-out in Paris, one terrorist is seen armed with an [[AIM]] assault rifle, easily recognizable by the wooden vertical foregrip under the handguard.
[[Image:Aimrifle.jpg|thumb|none|460px|AIM - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-AIM-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A terrorist holding up Chris, his left hand clearly on the wooden vertical foregrip of an [[AIM]].]]
[[Image:TAWP-AIM-04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After Chris challenges the terrorist to a martial arts fight, the distinctice lines of the terrorist’s [[AIM]] can be seen on the right.]]
 
==AIMR==
An unlucky terrorist during the Paris mission handles an [[AIMR]], recognizable by the stubby front section with shortened barrel plus the front sight being attached to the gas pipe.
[[Image:PM md. 90 Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|460px|AIMR - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-AIMR-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An [[AIMR]]-wielding terrorist meets his end in a Parisian fountain, note the typical front section of his rifle.]]
 
==AKM==
The [[AKM]] is seen handled in many scenes by members of all sides, most prominently by guards in Kim Jong Il’s palace and in one notable scene, by Kim Jong Il himself.
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|460px|AKM, stamped steel receiver with slant muzzle brake - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-AKM-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two guards to Kim Jong Il stand at guard with [[AKM]]’s next to the globe with pin-sized missiles indicating the locations of planned terrorist attacks.]]
[[Image:TAWP-AKM-04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A nice shot of Chris with an [[AKM]] at Kim Jong Il’s palace. Note the [[AKM]] details such as the slant compensator on the tip of the barrel and the [[AKM]] typical receiver.]]
[[Image:TAWP-AKM-05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A palace guard meeting his end with an [[AKM]] in his right hand. A good view of the slant compensator.]]
[[Image:TAWP-AKM-06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With an angry look on his face, “Kim Jong Il” decides to take matters in his own hand and starts shooting participants at the peace (…) conference with his [[AKM]].]]
 
==AKMS==
Throughout the movie, most terrorists carry an [[AKMS]] as their weapon of choice. Both the regular version, as well as the version with shortened barrel is seen used.  
[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|460px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver with slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-AKMS-05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two terrorists during the Paris mission, the one on the right holding an [[AKMS]] with two magazines taped together ‘jungle style’.]]
[[Image:TAWP-AKMS-08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same terrorist as above, now taking cover near a bakery. Note the improvised way the two magazines are taped together.]]
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Custom AKMS with shortened barrel, slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-AKMS-09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of a short-barrelled [[AKMS]] being carried by the terrorist on the left, his rifle actually being very detailed for an animated movie.]]
[[Image:TAWP-AKMS-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Three heavily-armed terrorists in the Cairo hide-out, the one on the right carrying an [[AKMS]]. Note what appears to be a green hand grenade in the fruit bowl (…) on their table.]]
[[Image:TAWP-AKMS-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the raid on Kim Jong Il’s palace, Team America encounters “[[George Clooney]]” shooting at them with a short-barrelled [[AKMS]].]]
[[Image:TAWP-AKMS-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another actor confronting Team America with an [[AKMS]] is “[[Sean Penn]]”, while on the left “[[Danny Glover]]” joins the shoot-out with a generic revolver.]]
 
==M16==
Gary can be seen training at a shooting range with some kind of hybrid [[M16 Rifle|M16]] showing a muzzle flash indicating a 3-prong flash hider but closer inspection reveals an A1-style A1 "birdcage" flash hider.  
[[Image:M16-SP1-30Mag.jpg|thumb|none|460px|M16 with an A1 "birdcage" Flash hider - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-M16-04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|If only our local gun range could look as neat, clean and well-illuminated as this facility…]]
[[Image:TAWP-M16-06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the muzzle flash indicative of a 3-prong flash hider for an [[M16 Rifle|M16]].]]
[[Image:TAWP-M16-05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same shot half a second later, without seemingly aiming Gary realizes an amazing score on full auto with his [[M16 Rifle|M16]] (from the hip!).]]
 
==M4A1 with M203 grenade launcher==
During the Cairo raid, Joe ropes down from a Team America helicopter with a rifle inspired by the  [[M4/M4A1 with M203 Grenade Launcher|M4A1 with M203 grenade launcher]].
[[Image:Sopmod m4 m203 06.jpg|thumb|none|460px|M4A1 with M68 Aimpoint red dot scope, flip-up rear sight, and M203 grenade launcher 40mm - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-M4A1M203-05.jpg|thumb|none|460px|A promotional image for Team America showing Joe holding his [[M4/M4A1 with M203 Grenade Launcher|M4A1 with M203 grenade launcher]].]]
[[Image:TAWP-M4A1M203-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe roping down with his [[M4/M4A1 with M203 Grenade Launcher|M4A1 with M203 grenade launcher]], note the collapsible stock.]]
[[Image:TAWP-M4A1M203-04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From this angle, the hand guards with holes are somewhat reminiscent of those for a [[M16 with M203 Grenade Launcher|M16 with M203 grenade launcher]]. Also note the absence of sights for the grenade launcher.]]
 
=Machine Guns=
 
==M249-E2 SAW==
Chris can be seen carrying an [[M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249-E2 SAW]] during the Cairo raid. It has some kind of scope and is fed from a 100-round drum magazine; impossible but cool-looking nevertheless.
[[Image:Fn m249saw mk2 10-1-.jpg|thumb|none|460px|M249-E2 SAW - upgraded M249 with heat shield and full synthetic Stock, equipped with a 200 round ammo drum - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-M249SAW-04.jpg|thumb|none|460px| A promotional image for Team America showing Chris holding his [[M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249-E2 SAW]].]]
[[Image:TAWP-M249SAW-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of the business end of Chris’ [[M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249-E2 SAW]] with a small scope on top.]]
[[Image:TAWP-M249SAW-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The typical stock of the [[M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249-E2 SAW]] is visible as well as the drum magazine.]]
 
==GE M134 Minigun==
Both the hand-held as well as the wing-mounted versions of the [[GE M134 Minigun|GE M134 minigun]] make an appearance in this movie.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|460px|General Electric M134 - 7.62×51mm NATO]]
[[Image:TAWP-M134-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[GE M134 Minigun|GE M134 minigun]] can be seen mounted on small wings on the sides of the Team America Blackhawk as it exits the Mount Rushmore base.]]
[[Image:TAWP-M134-04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A [[GE M134 Minigun|GE M134 minigun]] on the Team America helicopter spews death and destruction as they chase terrorists across the Middle East.]]
[[Image:TAWP-M134-05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In this still the limitations of the look-alike [[GE M134 Minigun|GE M134 minigun]] become painfully visible; no ammunition belt and 4 barrels instead of the standard 6.]]
[[Image:Minigun 2.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Airsoft handheld M134 Minigun with 'chainsaw grip' to handle the recoil force - (fake) 7.62×51mm NATO]]
[[Image:TAWP-M134-13.jpg|thumb|none|460px| A promotional image for Team America showing Sarah holding her hand-held [[GE M134 Minigun|GE M134 minigun]].]]
[[Image:TAWP-M134-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sarah, on the right, holding her [[GE M134 Minigun|GE M134 minigun]] as she and Lisa are scouting a terrorist hide-out in Egypt.]]
[[Image:TAWP-M134-08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With her hand-held [[GE M134 Minigun|GE M134 minigun]], Sarah decimates the inside of a bar in Cairo after their cover is blown.]]
 
=Shotguns=
 
==Remington 870 Police==
Lisa can be seen carrying a [[Remington 870]] Police during the mission in Paris. The shotgun has a Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight, pistol grip, synthetic stock and a heat shield.
[[Image:Model870P MAXlg.jpg|thumb|none|460px|Remington 870 Police with a Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:TAWP-Rem870Police-03.jpg|thumb|none|460px| A promotional image for Team America showing Lisa holding her [[Remington 870]].]]
[[Image:TAWP-Rem870Police-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''”Hey terrorist, terrorize this!”'']]
[[Image:TAWP-Rem870Police-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of Lisa’s [[Remington 870]] as she tends to Carson who’s been shot by a terrorist. Note the spare shells attached to the stock.]]
 
==Winchester Model 1912 Riot Gun==
During the final assault on Kim Jong Il’s palace, Chris carries a [[Winchester Model 1912]] Riot Gun.
[[Image:WinchesterModel12Riot.jpg|thumb|none|460px|Winchester Model 1912 Riot Gun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:TAWP-Winchester1912-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chris peeking around the corner with his [[Winchester Model 1912]] Riot Gun as Gary prepares to throw a grenade.]]
[[Image:TAWP-Winchester1912-04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chris and Gary checking the damage caused by a grenade. Note that the external extractor that seems to have been added for no reason.]]


==Short barreled side by side shotgun==
== Recreation of this page ==
Gary carries a [[Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)# short barreled side by side shotgun]] in a holster on his hip, but he is never seen firing it.
[[Image:Stevens 311 (Sawed Off).jpg|thumb|none|460px|Stevens 311R (sawed-off) - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:TAWP-sidebyside-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chris with the [[Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)# short barreled side by side shotgun]] on his right hip. Note his extreme firepower; next to the [[Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)# short barreled side by side shotgun]] on his hip, he has two [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]]A4’s in shoulderholsters and an [[Heckler & Koch MP5A5]] in his left hand.]]
[[Image:TAWP-sidebyside-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of the short stock of the [[Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)# short barreled side by side shotgun]] as Gary liberates Lisa from being held hostage by Kim Jong Il during the peace conference.]]


=Rocket Launchers=
I just learned that IMFDB administrators have voted in favour of this page. For this reason, I have recreated it and will finish it shortly, with the best intebtions and IMFDB guidelines in mind. Thanks for all the reactions in the last few days, [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 09:37, 27 October 2013 (EDT)


==RPG-7==
== Getting rid of characters on top of page ==
Lots of scoped [[RPG-7]]’s are seen lying around the terrorist hide-out in Cairo as Gary sneaks in to get information about upcoming attacks. 
[[Image:Rpg-7.jpg|thumb|none|460px|RPG-7 with PG-7VM rocket and PGO-7 scope - 40mm]]
[[Image:TAWP-RPG7-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As Gary is being led away, two [[RPG-7]]’s are seen on the right as decoration material.]]
[[Image:TAWP-RPG7-03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|For no apparent reason, an [[RPG-7]] can be seen standing against the bar of the terrorist hide-out.]]


==M136 AT4==
Can anybody recommend how I can get rid of the annoying and mysterious ''''|}'''' on top of the movie page? It's not in the coding so I am at a loss where it comes from. If you know, please don't just remove it but let me know so that I can understand where this comes from. Thanks in advance, [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 17:03, 27 October 2013 (EDT)
During the mission in Paris, Joe uses a recoilless launcher that is based on the [[M136 AT4]] launcher. It is fitted with Hollywood embellishments such as a pistol grip and a magazine with additional rockets (…). 
:Whoops, it must be the new template. I created a new infobox template that didn't have the cast listings for this. I'll have to tweak it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:14, 27 October 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:TF launcher.jpg|thumb|none|460px| Prop M136 AT4 recoilless launcher with M16 lower receiver and AN/PVS-4 night-vision scope - 84mm]]
::There we go. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:16, 27 October 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:TAWP-M136AT4-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An interesting screenshot showing Joe with preparing to fire the modified [[M136 AT4]] launcher, seemingly using a night-vision scope in broad daylight…]]
[[Image:TAWP-M136AT4-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe fires the [[M136 AT4]] at fleeing terrorists, interestingly no rocket is loaded after his shot. Note the obvious pyrotechnics muzzle flashes.]]

Latest revision as of 22:16, 27 October 2013


I would advise this page be deleted

The weapons are not even actual weapons, and are more like plastic/rubber toys. - User:1morey January 18, 2013 9:05 PM (EST) We've deleted this page multiple times as there are no actual weapon in the film. Plus quite a few of thos "weapons" are not based on real fireams but stuff taken from GI Joe sized dolls.Rockwolf66 (talk) 21:39, 18 January 2013 (EST)

It's gone.--Jcordell (talk) 23:59, 18 January 2013 (EST)

Eligibility

I've put up a poll in a new thread in the admin only section of the forum. --Funkychinaman (talk) 21:23, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

I don't have that kinda access, so I'm just going to drop my opinion here. I think it should be allowed. There is a lot of anime shows and movies here which obviously don't have any real guns either, and in some cases are less detailed.--Crazycrankle (talk) 00:04, 20 October 2013 (EDT)
For a number of years now I have come to appreciate IMFDB and the collective wisdom of all contributors. However, this is the first time I am somewhat unpleasantly surprised. Without checking with me first, my page for Team America is deleted within a matters of hours, even though I created it with the best intentions and (as far as I understand) respecting IMFDB guidelines. Yes, some weapons are probably taken from GI Joe toy dolls, but some have just too many details to refer to as just toys and seem to be purposely build for this movie. I totally agree that the guns on this page are subject to debate, but hey, so are most anime pages. Just look at the anime pages with mostly fantasy weapons that can be found on IMFDB... Anyway, I was hoping that my 'disclaimer' in the header would be enough to avoid debate, but unfortunately it was not. I very much appreciate the admin discussion and I will respect its outcome, PeeWee055 (talk) 06:57, 20 October 2013 (EDT)
Like I pointed out, if you had used the proper title, you would've seen that the page was locked. That should've been a heads up. We'll know in about a week. --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:05, 20 October 2013 (EDT)
I vote it stays up. IMFDB is rather inconsistent when it comes to whether cartoons or the like can have pages. Some have generic "guns", but some have detailed ones and don't fit under anime.Temp89 (talk) 16:00, 20 October 2013 (EDT)
There are a few animation pages that were made before we tightened up the rules as to what was acceptable, however if there is a non-anime animation that you think is eligible for inclusion then feel free to post some caps on your user page and start a topic in either the forum or the main discussion page to check that it is ok. As to whether this is eligible I go back and forth on it, but I am inclined to allow it. Firstly, the previous version were deleted not only on eligibility grounds but also because they were pretty much no-effort pages, and at least this version is complete (as far as I can remember). Also, I believe these weapons were actually made by the production company rather than just being taken from GI Joes or Hot Toys. The scale they used for the puppets was a 1:3, and although the weapons do tend to look small in the puppets hands, they are nowhere near as small as they would be if they used the 1:6 scale that you get on toys. I'm of the opinion that somebody may watch this movie and wonder what the weapons were so I think it would be good if we had a page for it. Also, it isn't like puppet films are becoming the norm and we really need to worry about setting a precedent. However I don't think it should be listed on any of the gun pages, as it would have to go under the normal film section as it isn't animated and yet there are no actual guns used in the film so to list it as such would be misleading. --commando552 (talk) 20:54, 20 October 2013 (EDT)

Recreation of this page

I just learned that IMFDB administrators have voted in favour of this page. For this reason, I have recreated it and will finish it shortly, with the best intebtions and IMFDB guidelines in mind. Thanks for all the reactions in the last few days, PeeWee055 (talk) 09:37, 27 October 2013 (EDT)

Getting rid of characters on top of page

Can anybody recommend how I can get rid of the annoying and mysterious '|}' on top of the movie page? It's not in the coding so I am at a loss where it comes from. If you know, please don't just remove it but let me know so that I can understand where this comes from. Thanks in advance, PeeWee055 (talk) 17:03, 27 October 2013 (EDT)

Whoops, it must be the new template. I created a new infobox template that didn't have the cast listings for this. I'll have to tweak it. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:14, 27 October 2013 (EDT)
There we go. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:16, 27 October 2013 (EDT)
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