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== Model 66 ==
== Model 66 ==
I think that the Taurus is actually a S&W Model 500, the 500 is also seen in Arnold's hands on the poster. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 11:47, 20 August 2012 (CDT)
I think that the Taurus is actually a S&W Model 500 as it has a five-round cylinder, the 500 is also seen in Arnold's hands on the poster. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 11:47, 20 August 2012 (CDT)
 
== Flare Gun ==
 
I just watched an extended trailer when they were loading up one of them loaded what looked like a orion flare gun can anyone identify?
 
== Dinkum's Stash ==
 
Don't know if this helps but I spotted an M1 Carbine and what I think might be an Arisaka rifle in his museum/stash.--[[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]] ([[User talk:John Ryder|talk]]) 20:57, 20 January 2013 (EST)
 
Yeah definitely saw an M1 and some other nice stuff, it made me wonder why they picked pistols, shotguns and a bolt action, perhaps no ammo? Because the rifles would make much more sense. But then again they gave the thompson to the comic relief guy and not the supposed marine with the army tat. but then again it was in a bit of a weird genre half comedy/half serious  --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:35, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
 
==?Question?==
What was the weapon used by the elderly lady in her bedroom?[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 02:39, 3 March 2013 (EST)
 
I believe it was some shotgun, but I don't think it was ever seen properly and its probably not the same prop used by the farmer (which we did see properly) since this isn't exactly low budget production.
:Got a real quick look and the weapon appeared to be a [[Remington 1858 New Army|Remington 1858 ("Cattleman's Carbine")]] --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 21:34, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
:Pretty sure that's what I saw too --Patrick Trudeau 01:11, 24 April 2013 (EDT)
 
== Mk 14 Mod 0/1 Enhanced Battle Rifle  ==
 
This might be the same (or similar) weapon as used in [[Fast Five]] since, at one point, the guy using it seems to be firing bursts from the weapon and not single shots as you might expect. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 21:36, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
 
Similar in that they're both M14 variants, but definitely not the same one.
 
[[File:Fastfive-pstill-m14.jpg|thumb|none|499px|A publicity still of Fernando Chien firing the M14 EBR.]]
[[Image:TLS Mk14 2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The henchman fires the Mk 14 full auto. ''Note: this is image was flipped in the trailers.'']]
 
Notice the difference in barrel length. The rifle in this movie looks like an FA M14 action put into an EBR stock rather than a true MK14 like the one in Fast Five. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:29, 17 January 2014 (EST)
 
== The revolver used by Peter Stormare ==
 
The revoler used looks more like a Colt Dragoon. The Dragoon has a seperate barrel from the frame as were the Colt Walkers while the Colt Navey 1851 has a sealess barrel and frame. It can't be a Colt Walker because the Walker did't have the loading lever latch that you can see in the picture.
:Not an era of firearms I know anything about, but if it was guaranteed to be one of the two options, Dragoon or 1851 Navy, I'd put my money on Dragoon.--[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] ([[User talk:Crazycrankle|talk]]) 04:54, 27 May 2013 (EDT)
 
It is a Second Model Dragoon(square cylinder notches and squareback triggerguard)with what appears to be a Kirst cartridge converter cylinder. The
Dragoon's barrel is referred to as "half round" as some collectors ,with the breech end having flats and the forward end being round. The 1851 Navy
had an octagonal barrel from breech to muzzle. Weighing about half as much as a Dragoon, the Navy was referred at the time as a "belt pistol" while the Dragoon was called a "holster(as in saddle or pommel) pistol, however plenty of folks wore them on their person.
As to the Dragoon's use in the movie, there were undoubltedly more than one on set, as using the Kirst converter requires tapping out the barrel wedge, sliding the barrel off, and replacing the empty cylinder.  Tecolote 12:35, 27 May 2013 (EDT)
 
Is it mechanically possible to convert a Colt Dragoon to fire metal cartridge?--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 19:21, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
 
==Stormare's 2nd gun==
After Burrell drops his ancient six gun on the floor, he pulls this from the back of his pants:
[[Image:TLS-Burrell.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:TLS-Burrell-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another angle with the gore cropped out.]]
 
This happens like a second before Arnie blows his brains out with the Model 500. I'm guessing a [[Heckler & Koch P30|P30]], but I'm open to suggestion. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 13:54, 27 May 2013 (EDT)
 
== Mrs Salazar ==
 
I think that Mrs Salazar gun isn't a Remington carbine i believe that its a Uberti revolving carbine can anyone confirm it?--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 10:58, 28 May 2013 (EDT)
 
==Additional==
[[Image:12Gauge_Rounds_LSAS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Owens puts some 12 gauge rounds in his pocket but doen't reload his shotgun when it runs out of ammunition.]]

Latest revision as of 21:49, 28 July 2023

Model 66

I think that the Taurus is actually a S&W Model 500 as it has a five-round cylinder, the 500 is also seen in Arnold's hands on the poster. --SmithandWesson36 11:47, 20 August 2012 (CDT)

Flare Gun

I just watched an extended trailer when they were loading up one of them loaded what looked like a orion flare gun can anyone identify?

Dinkum's Stash

Don't know if this helps but I spotted an M1 Carbine and what I think might be an Arisaka rifle in his museum/stash.--John Ryder (talk) 20:57, 20 January 2013 (EST)

Yeah definitely saw an M1 and some other nice stuff, it made me wonder why they picked pistols, shotguns and a bolt action, perhaps no ammo? Because the rifles would make much more sense. But then again they gave the thompson to the comic relief guy and not the supposed marine with the army tat. but then again it was in a bit of a weird genre half comedy/half serious --Iceman (talk) 05:35, 23 April 2013 (EDT)

?Question?

What was the weapon used by the elderly lady in her bedroom?Foofbun (talk) 02:39, 3 March 2013 (EST)

I believe it was some shotgun, but I don't think it was ever seen properly and its probably not the same prop used by the farmer (which we did see properly) since this isn't exactly low budget production.

Got a real quick look and the weapon appeared to be a Remington 1858 ("Cattleman's Carbine") --Charon68 (talk) 21:34, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
Pretty sure that's what I saw too --Patrick Trudeau 01:11, 24 April 2013 (EDT)

Mk 14 Mod 0/1 Enhanced Battle Rifle

This might be the same (or similar) weapon as used in Fast Five since, at one point, the guy using it seems to be firing bursts from the weapon and not single shots as you might expect. --Charon68 (talk) 21:36, 23 April 2013 (EDT)

Similar in that they're both M14 variants, but definitely not the same one.

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A publicity still of Fernando Chien firing the M14 EBR.
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The henchman fires the Mk 14 full auto. Note: this is image was flipped in the trailers.

Notice the difference in barrel length. The rifle in this movie looks like an FA M14 action put into an EBR stock rather than a true MK14 like the one in Fast Five. Spartan198 (talk) 10:29, 17 January 2014 (EST)

The revolver used by Peter Stormare

The revoler used looks more like a Colt Dragoon. The Dragoon has a seperate barrel from the frame as were the Colt Walkers while the Colt Navey 1851 has a sealess barrel and frame. It can't be a Colt Walker because the Walker did't have the loading lever latch that you can see in the picture.

Not an era of firearms I know anything about, but if it was guaranteed to be one of the two options, Dragoon or 1851 Navy, I'd put my money on Dragoon.--Crazycrankle (talk) 04:54, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

It is a Second Model Dragoon(square cylinder notches and squareback triggerguard)with what appears to be a Kirst cartridge converter cylinder. The Dragoon's barrel is referred to as "half round" as some collectors ,with the breech end having flats and the forward end being round. The 1851 Navy had an octagonal barrel from breech to muzzle. Weighing about half as much as a Dragoon, the Navy was referred at the time as a "belt pistol" while the Dragoon was called a "holster(as in saddle or pommel) pistol, however plenty of folks wore them on their person. As to the Dragoon's use in the movie, there were undoubltedly more than one on set, as using the Kirst converter requires tapping out the barrel wedge, sliding the barrel off, and replacing the empty cylinder. Tecolote 12:35, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

Is it mechanically possible to convert a Colt Dragoon to fire metal cartridge?--Balin21 (talk) 19:21, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

Stormare's 2nd gun

After Burrell drops his ancient six gun on the floor, he pulls this from the back of his pants:

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Another angle with the gore cropped out.

This happens like a second before Arnie blows his brains out with the Model 500. I'm guessing a P30, but I'm open to suggestion. --Warejaws (talk) 13:54, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

Mrs Salazar

I think that Mrs Salazar gun isn't a Remington carbine i believe that its a Uberti revolving carbine can anyone confirm it?--Balin21 (talk) 10:58, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

Additional

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Owens puts some 12 gauge rounds in his pocket but doen't reload his shotgun when it runs out of ammunition.