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== Colt 1895 Automatic Machine Gun == | == Colt 1895 Automatic Machine Gun == | ||
The [[Colt 1895 Automatic Machine Gun]] is seen on various airplanes of the Mercenaries without the tripod. | The [[Colt 1895 Automatic Machine Gun]] is seen on various airplanes of the Mercenaries without the tripod. | ||
[[Image: | [[Image:Colt3.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1895 machine gun .30-40 Krag]] | ||
[[Image:ATLE1895Colt.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercanary fires his 2 Colt 1895s.]] | [[Image:ATLE1895Colt.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercanary fires his 2 Colt 1895s.]] | ||
''':I'm disputing this, how can you even tell?? --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 01:37, 26 May 2010 (UTC)''' | ''':I'm disputing this, how can you even tell?? --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 01:37, 26 May 2010 (UTC)''' | ||
The 1895,when fired,launched a lever from the bottom while cycling. I can see they mounted them sideways so the levers flap into the air and so the cartridges eject upwards. To the pilot's right you can see one of the machine gun's levers as it cycles. - LaFarge | The 1895,when fired,launched a lever from the bottom while cycling. I can see they mounted them sideways so the levers flap into the air and so the cartridges eject upwards. To the pilot's right you can see one of the machine gun's levers as it cycles.Denoting that it is a Colt 1895. - LaFarge | ||
== Isn't it kind of odd... == | == Isn't it kind of odd... == | ||
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That Rourke uses a Luger P08 and Hegla uses a Mauser C96? And that almost all the other mercenaries in this film use foreign firearms and not... well, you know, AMERICAN-made weapons? If they are mercenaries under the guise of the U.S. Military or official U.S. Military personnel, wouldn't it make more sense to use American-made weapons so that way they don't stick out like a sore thumb? --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 04:10, 21 February 2011 (UTC) | That Rourke uses a Luger P08 and Hegla uses a Mauser C96? And that almost all the other mercenaries in this film use foreign firearms and not... well, you know, AMERICAN-made weapons? If they are mercenaries under the guise of the U.S. Military or official U.S. Military personnel, wouldn't it make more sense to use American-made weapons so that way they don't stick out like a sore thumb? --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 04:10, 21 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
:One reason why Rourke and the mercenary army used British firearms (Lee-Enfield No.1 MkIII rifles and Vickers machine guns) and German firearms (Luger P08 and Mauser C96 pistols) instead of American firearms could be that it would have been easier (and cheaper) to buy firearms from the British and the Germans (keep in mind that Britain and Germany were major imperial powers in 1914, both were major producers of firearms (namely military firearms), and both countries were engaged in an arms race with each other pre-WW1) -- [[Roughneck Jase]] 21:36PM AEST 21 February 2011. | :One reason why Rourke and the mercenary army used British firearms (Lee-Enfield No.1 MkIII rifles and Vickers machine guns) and German firearms (Luger P08 and Mauser C96 pistols) instead of American firearms could be that it would have been easier (and cheaper) to buy firearms from the British and the Germans (keep in mind that Britain and Germany were major imperial powers in 1914, both were major producers of firearms (namely military firearms), and both countries were engaged in an arms race with each other pre-WW1) -- [[User:Roughneck Jase]] 21:36PM AEST 21 February 2011. | ||
::I seriously doubt that it's anything that elaborate. The M1911 is still a common weapon, so using foreign pistols, which most Americans have only seen in movies set during or before WWII helps with the antiquated feel. The rifles and machine guns were likely chosen for aesthetic reasons as well.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 15:04, 21 February 2011 (UTC) | ::I seriously doubt that it's anything that elaborate. The M1911 is still a common weapon, so using foreign pistols, which most Americans have only seen in movies set during or before WWII helps with the antiquated feel. The rifles and machine guns were likely chosen for aesthetic reasons as well.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 15:04, 21 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
== Helga's "C96" == | |||
I was thinking about the change myself, but seeing as I'm going off of memory, I was wondering if someone could verify/look this up. Currently, Helga is stated to have been using a C96 Mauser. Now, as the weapon isn't completely detailed, there's probably room for moving the name around. My point is, the C96 uses a fixed magazine, and when Helga runs dry she clearly ejects a magazine from her gun. So, wouldn't this technically make the gun closer to a [[Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer]] (Which has a detachable box magazine)? Now, the reason I'm asking because I might be wrong, and she doesn't eject a magazine. I just remember a scene like that, but being unable to confirm this for myself at this moment, I thought that I'd ask here. A cap of the scene, if it does exist, would probably be useful too. --[[User:Clonehunter|Clonehunter]] ([[User talk:Clonehunter|talk]]) 10:45, 24 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:Looking at the gun, while it was probably meant to be a C96, I almost want to say it looks like a Bergman 1910/21. But hey, that's probably me just being my usual mentally damaged self. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 14:16, 9 August 2017 (EDT) P.S.: Hooray for posting on 3+ year-old discussion threads! | |||
== PPSh-41 (SMG) == | |||
I think it's more like a hybrid Schmeisser MP-18 and Suomi KP/-31 | |||
Latest revision as of 09:54, 3 May 2020
Mercenaries...not mercinaires. lol The Winchester
Vickers machine gun
Isn't there a picture right below of a Vickers firing, or am I seeing things? Hexslinger 07:02, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Upload wide screen!
The widescreen shots are awesome. Who is going to complete this page and replace all the 4:3 Full Screen shots (which are too small anyway) to the larger Wide screen shots! :) MoviePropMaster2008 05:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm actually the one who uploaded those. I'll try to replace those images as soon as possible. - Kenny99 15:00, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
- Finally, I finshed replacing the images with widescreen shots. Hope this helps. - Kenny99 04:29, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hey uh, I know you finished the widescreen images, but can you please put info's under the screen, like the picture that said "Nothing Personal". 07:04 3 April 2010
Disney Category
Hey, you should add this animated movie to the Disney category, since this is a Disney film.
Colt 1895 Automatic Machine Gun
The Colt 1895 Automatic Machine Gun is seen on various airplanes of the Mercenaries without the tripod.
:I'm disputing this, how can you even tell?? --AdAstra2009 01:37, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
The 1895,when fired,launched a lever from the bottom while cycling. I can see they mounted them sideways so the levers flap into the air and so the cartridges eject upwards. To the pilot's right you can see one of the machine gun's levers as it cycles.Denoting that it is a Colt 1895. - LaFarge
Isn't it kind of odd...
That Rourke uses a Luger P08 and Hegla uses a Mauser C96? And that almost all the other mercenaries in this film use foreign firearms and not... well, you know, AMERICAN-made weapons? If they are mercenaries under the guise of the U.S. Military or official U.S. Military personnel, wouldn't it make more sense to use American-made weapons so that way they don't stick out like a sore thumb? --ThatoneguyJosh 04:10, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- One reason why Rourke and the mercenary army used British firearms (Lee-Enfield No.1 MkIII rifles and Vickers machine guns) and German firearms (Luger P08 and Mauser C96 pistols) instead of American firearms could be that it would have been easier (and cheaper) to buy firearms from the British and the Germans (keep in mind that Britain and Germany were major imperial powers in 1914, both were major producers of firearms (namely military firearms), and both countries were engaged in an arms race with each other pre-WW1) -- User:Roughneck Jase 21:36PM AEST 21 February 2011.
- I seriously doubt that it's anything that elaborate. The M1911 is still a common weapon, so using foreign pistols, which most Americans have only seen in movies set during or before WWII helps with the antiquated feel. The rifles and machine guns were likely chosen for aesthetic reasons as well.--PistolJunkie 15:04, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Helga's "C96"
I was thinking about the change myself, but seeing as I'm going off of memory, I was wondering if someone could verify/look this up. Currently, Helga is stated to have been using a C96 Mauser. Now, as the weapon isn't completely detailed, there's probably room for moving the name around. My point is, the C96 uses a fixed magazine, and when Helga runs dry she clearly ejects a magazine from her gun. So, wouldn't this technically make the gun closer to a Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer (Which has a detachable box magazine)? Now, the reason I'm asking because I might be wrong, and she doesn't eject a magazine. I just remember a scene like that, but being unable to confirm this for myself at this moment, I thought that I'd ask here. A cap of the scene, if it does exist, would probably be useful too. --Clonehunter (talk) 10:45, 24 July 2014 (EDT)
- Looking at the gun, while it was probably meant to be a C96, I almost want to say it looks like a Bergman 1910/21. But hey, that's probably me just being my usual mentally damaged self. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 14:16, 9 August 2017 (EDT) P.S.: Hooray for posting on 3+ year-old discussion threads!
PPSh-41 (SMG)
I think it's more like a hybrid Schmeisser MP-18 and Suomi KP/-31