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[[Image:Tb-dvd.jpg|thumb|none|300px|DVD cover for ''Thunderball'' (1965)]]
== Unidentified Sniper Rifle ==
== Unidentified Sniper Rifle ==
Felix Leiter ([[Rik Van Nutter]]) fires a rifle with a scope at a shark to distract the other sharks as Bond dives.
Felix Leiter ([[Rik Van Nutter]]) fires a rifle with a scope at a shark to distract the other sharks as Bond dives.
[[Image:Tb-rifle1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Felix aims his rifle.]]
[[Image:Tb-rifle1.jpg|thumb|none|701px|Felix aims his rifle.]]
[[Image:Thunderball 13.jpg|thumb|none|701px|Another view.]]
The upper handguard on the rifle gives it away as a M1 Carbine variant. It may be one of the Iver Johnson M1 carbines that had a pistol grip stock.
The upper handguard on the rifle gives it away as a M1 Carbine variant. It may be one of the Iver Johnson M1 carbines that had a pistol grip stock.
:There is another possiblity,the French Unique .22 Model L pistol/carbine combo,which featured a pistol that fitted up into the "M1 carbine"-like stock, which got around ATF regs due to the fact the carbine setup had an 18 inch barrel. Leiter ''is'' holding the carbine the way one would hold this model.
:There is another possiblity,the French Unique .22 Model L pistol/carbine combo,which featured a pistol that fitted up into the "M1 carbine"-like stock, which got around ATF regs due to the fact the carbine setup had an 18 inch barrel. Leiter ''is'' holding the carbine the way one would hold this model.
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It is not an M1 that is for sure--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 20:24, 9 February 2012 (CST)
It is not an M1 that is for sure--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 20:24, 9 February 2012 (CST)
:It also isn't a Unique .22 Model L pistol/carbine, as that has a square upper handguard rather than rounded, and is pretty much made of solid wood with a hole for the ejeection port, as opposed to this thing which has a metal receiver visible.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:47, 10 February 2012 (CST)
:[[File:Unique Model L pistol carbine.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Unique Model L pistol-carbine - .22LR]]
Actually there were Model Ls with more rounded corners and more metal around the receiver. I have an photo of one and if my skills at posting
images were better, I'd post it. Also other screencaps show Van Nutter holding the rifle showing the brown of the  inserted pistol's grip. I'm positive it's a Model L.--[[User:Tecolote|Tecolote]] ([[User talk:Tecolote|talk]]) 03:06, 3 September 2014 (EDT)
::Should the page be changed to reflect this? --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 05:47, 1 October 2014 (EDT)
*I was researching some 1960s Hy Hunter Firearms and wonder if the photo in the 1960s advert might be Felix Leiter's mystery shark rifle?[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 06:11, 10 August 2014 (EDT)
[[File:Hyhunter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
No,but two of those models were used in the Matt Helm movies: the Bolo Mauser in Murderers Row and the T-62 in The Ambushers.--[[User:Tecolote|Tecolote]] ([[User talk:Tecolote|talk]]) 03:10, 3 September 2014 (EDT)
==Poison pistol==
Are there any stills of the poison gas weapon used to kill the real Derval? These are images of Ken Adam's original 1965 artwork and the 1976 Church Commission CIA poison dart pistol[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 17:29, 14 November 2020 (EST)
[[File:Thunderballdartgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:Thunderballdartgun-actual.jpg|thumb|none|480px]]

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DVD cover for Thunderball (1965)

Unidentified Sniper Rifle

Felix Leiter (Rik Van Nutter) fires a rifle with a scope at a shark to distract the other sharks as Bond dives.

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Felix aims his rifle.
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Another view.

The upper handguard on the rifle gives it away as a M1 Carbine variant. It may be one of the Iver Johnson M1 carbines that had a pistol grip stock.

There is another possiblity,the French Unique .22 Model L pistol/carbine combo,which featured a pistol that fitted up into the "M1 carbine"-like stock, which got around ATF regs due to the fact the carbine setup had an 18 inch barrel. Leiter is holding the carbine the way one would hold this model.

Regards, Tecolote

It is not an M1 that is for sure--Coltmth 20:24, 9 February 2012 (CST)

It also isn't a Unique .22 Model L pistol/carbine, as that has a square upper handguard rather than rounded, and is pretty much made of solid wood with a hole for the ejeection port, as opposed to this thing which has a metal receiver visible. --commando552 04:47, 10 February 2012 (CST)
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Unique Model L pistol-carbine - .22LR

Actually there were Model Ls with more rounded corners and more metal around the receiver. I have an photo of one and if my skills at posting images were better, I'd post it. Also other screencaps show Van Nutter holding the rifle showing the brown of the inserted pistol's grip. I'm positive it's a Model L.--Tecolote (talk) 03:06, 3 September 2014 (EDT)

Should the page be changed to reflect this? --Maxman (talk) 05:47, 1 October 2014 (EDT)


  • I was researching some 1960s Hy Hunter Firearms and wonder if the photo in the 1960s advert might be Felix Leiter's mystery shark rifle?Foofbun (talk) 06:11, 10 August 2014 (EDT)

No,but two of those models were used in the Matt Helm movies: the Bolo Mauser in Murderers Row and the T-62 in The Ambushers.--Tecolote (talk) 03:10, 3 September 2014 (EDT)

Poison pistol

Are there any stills of the poison gas weapon used to kill the real Derval? These are images of Ken Adam's original 1965 artwork and the 1976 Church Commission CIA poison dart pistolFoofbun (talk) 17:29, 14 November 2020 (EST)

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