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[[Image:Kac warzone revolver.jpg|none|thumb|400px|The custom black version of the Smith & Wesson Model 500 with a suppressed black barrel, a Knight's Armament RIS setup, flashlight, and laser sight - .500 S&W Magnum was carried by Frank Castle during the final confrontation from ''[[Punisher: War Zone]]''.]] | [[Image:Kac warzone revolver.jpg|none|thumb|400px|The custom black version of the Smith & Wesson Model 500 with a suppressed black barrel, a Knight's Armament RIS setup, flashlight, and laser sight - .500 S&W Magnum was carried by Frank Castle during the final confrontation from ''[[Punisher: War Zone]]''.]] | ||
[[File:PunisherWarZoneModel500.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Screen Used Smith and Wesson Model 500 with extended ejector shroud and Muzzle Brake - .500 S&W Magnum. This is a screen used gun held by Castle ([[Ray Stevenson]]) in ''[[Punisher: War Zone]]''.]] | |||
[[Image:IMG 1305.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Two custom S&W Model 500s with customized barrel shrouds revolvers - .500 S&W Magnum were built for ''[[The Spirit]]''.]] | [[Image:IMG 1305.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Two custom S&W Model 500s with customized barrel shrouds revolvers - .500 S&W Magnum were built for ''[[The Spirit]]''.]] | ||
[[File:S&W M500 HIVIS.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 500 with HIVIS sights - .500 S&W Magnum]] | [[File:S&W M500 HIVIS.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 500 with HIVIS sights - .500 S&W Magnum]] | ||
[[File:S&W5006.5''.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 500 with 6.5" barrel - .500 S&W Magnum]] | |||
[[File:S&W500BoneCollector.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 500 Bone Collector - .500 S&W Magnum]] | |||
[[File:500-es.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 500 ES (Emergency Survival) - .500 S&W Magnum]] | |||
== .500 S&W Magnum == | == .500 S&W Magnum == | ||
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:Well, why can't YOU put them in? --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 08:35, 16 February 2011 (UTC) | :Well, why can't YOU put them in? --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 08:35, 16 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
== Why? == | |||
Why on earth do guns this powerful and expensive exist? I am a person completely against revolvers, yes, but that's not the point. The Desert Eagle falls into this category too. Who on earth buys the world's most powerful handgun? Is it just an expensive way for men to increase their masculinity? Realistically, you buy a gun for defense, or if you're in the military. No ordinary civilian will ever buy this, it's too expensive, large and overpowered. As for the military, both the gun itself and the ammunition are far too expensive, and it can't mount a suppressor or weapon light. And why oh why do Treyarch keep putting the Deagle in CoD? No realistic military will ever use one of them, and while I understand CoD doesn't keep realism very high on the priority list, it should at least understand that military sidearms these days are all 9mm semi-automatics, that are suppressor adaptable, and not freaking hand cannons. Why do gun makers constantly try and outdo each other in this stupid, expensive, impractical game? Can someone give me one good reason why guns like this exist, please? Alasdair. | |||
:The term is "range toy." [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:53, 5 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
::Not all guns are used by the military/police or for home defence. One of the main uses for both the Desert Eagle and the Model 500 is for hunting large game. I think they are also used for long range silhouette shooting, and short barrel versions of the Model 500 are used for self defence against dangerous animals such as bears. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:25, 5 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
Have you ever shot one of these weapons? I love my Desert Eagle and it so much fun to shoot. | |||
Who wrote the above statement? Name, seriously. Anyway, I don't want a gun that's fun to shoot, I want one that will save my life, and a Deagle stands a high chance of stove piping, and also a higher chance of killing, so I'll get arrested. As for the bear thing, fine in the Rockies of somewhere like that, but I live in Scotland. And I did once shoot a .44 Magnum S&W 29, but the severe recoil combined with my puny arms broke my nose. In America, you have your range toys. But in Britain, we believe in practicality over power. Hey, everyone's entitled to their own beliefs. Alasdair. | |||
:Not every gun you own has to be for self defence. Being English, none of the guns I own are for self defence, the majority are for sport (in other words, fun). I don't think the target market of the Model 500 and Desert Eagle is people who want one gun for home defence (I also don't think they had the Scottish consumer in mind either). As to your point about about a gun being a poor choice for self defence if it is more likely to kill someone, that is moronic. If you are in a country where it is legal to own a gun for home defence (not Britain for example) and a situation arises where you are justified in using it you don't want to have to be shooting out someone's kneecaps with .22s, you should be shooting to kill in order to save your own life. Just curious, were you shooting the Model 29 in Scotland? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 12:41, 5 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
Saying that a gun that's more likely to kill someone is less suited to home defense, in countries where you can't kill someone even if | |||
they shoot at you first is true. A 9mm is best suited to this in the U.K, as it will go straight through and wound, not kill unless you aim directly at the head. In the U.S.A, fine, but can we please keep this argument within the severe U.K gun laws and stupid legal system? And no, the 29 was fired at a shooting range. I'm not yet old enough to own a firearm legally. And they might have had the Scottish market in mind...there's some pretty aggressive wildlife here. I do see your point, though. All I'm saying is guns like this serve little practical purpose. There's no need to insult my perfectly valid opinion of the home defence, though. I've tried to pick up what I can, but my parents are very restrictive and do not support this hobby of mine. I hope to have my eyes opened more, and to open more people's eyes in future. Alasdair. | |||
:I don't know if you are aware of this but first off pistols are pretty mush 100% illegal to own in the UK. The only very rare exceptions to this are game wardens who may require a pistol in special circumstances, such as dense woodland, for culling deer. I wasn't intentionally trying to insult you, but I don't see your opinion as valid and if anything it seems like a dangerous opinion to me. Home defence is not a legal reason for owning a firearm in the UK, the only valid purposes are sport and hunting. If you were to use a firearm you legally had for hunting/sporting purposes for home defence you would likely loose your licence and be prosecuted for firearms offences, regardless of whether you only injured the assailant. It isn't the law that you aren't allowed to kill someone with a gun, you aren't allowed to shoot them at all. You can disagree with British law if you like, but you it is the law as it currently stands. Back on to the topic of guns like the Model 500 IMHO they do have legitimate purposes in sport and hunting, as well as being fun to use (I think this is a legitimate purpose), so I personally don't see them as being useless. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] | |||
::: Lol, just read this, what a inane question and rant. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 15:11, 28 January 2014 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 17:34, 28 January 2019
Additional Variants
.500 S&W Magnum
Is the Bullet specificly made the this Gun and how much bigger is it compared to say the .357 Magnum.
Basically a .357 mag is pushing a 158gr to a 180gr bullet...but the .500 S&W push anything from a 300gr to a 500gr bullet, and someone is even making a 702gr bullet for it...just crazy big but not as good ballistically as a .460 S&W.--Spades of Columbia 17:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
The Punisher
When did Tom Jane use it? I know Ray Stevenson did in War Zone, but I don't remember it in the first one. -SasquatchJim.
He provided the voice in the videogame. That's the only time he "used" it. Mercer 16:47, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Ah, got it. -SJ
Question
They say the S&W 500 is for hunters who need something powerful enough as a backup weapon in a real emergency... but what kind of emergency would a hunter use the S&W 500 for? --ThatoneguyJosh 13:18, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
In the event that your out bow hunting and a bear happens upon you through the thicket. My source? Personal experience. Some would call it overkill, but when a bear attack is a reality and a good possibility in the neck of the woods your hunting in, you want the biggest self defense weapon your money can buy. - Mikey
- A bear or any predator charging at you when you find yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time.--Mpe2010 14:14, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
As Michael Bane has said about other guns, "it's perfect for when the velociraptors come right through your front window." -SasquatchJim.
So... in Michael Bane's mindset, we are now hunting dinosaurs when we use the S&W 500? --ThatoneguyJosh 07:49, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Well, to be fair, he was talking about a Howdah pistol when he said the dinosaur line. But, the S&W seems like it would fit the bill for a sidearm as well. -SJ
Missing links
Your missing Machete, Transporter 3, and lock n' load with R. Lee Ermy.
- Well, why can't YOU put them in? --Jackbel 08:35, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Why?
Why on earth do guns this powerful and expensive exist? I am a person completely against revolvers, yes, but that's not the point. The Desert Eagle falls into this category too. Who on earth buys the world's most powerful handgun? Is it just an expensive way for men to increase their masculinity? Realistically, you buy a gun for defense, or if you're in the military. No ordinary civilian will ever buy this, it's too expensive, large and overpowered. As for the military, both the gun itself and the ammunition are far too expensive, and it can't mount a suppressor or weapon light. And why oh why do Treyarch keep putting the Deagle in CoD? No realistic military will ever use one of them, and while I understand CoD doesn't keep realism very high on the priority list, it should at least understand that military sidearms these days are all 9mm semi-automatics, that are suppressor adaptable, and not freaking hand cannons. Why do gun makers constantly try and outdo each other in this stupid, expensive, impractical game? Can someone give me one good reason why guns like this exist, please? Alasdair.
- The term is "range toy." Evil Tim 03:53, 5 April 2012 (CDT)
- Not all guns are used by the military/police or for home defence. One of the main uses for both the Desert Eagle and the Model 500 is for hunting large game. I think they are also used for long range silhouette shooting, and short barrel versions of the Model 500 are used for self defence against dangerous animals such as bears. --commando552 04:25, 5 April 2012 (CDT)
Have you ever shot one of these weapons? I love my Desert Eagle and it so much fun to shoot.
Who wrote the above statement? Name, seriously. Anyway, I don't want a gun that's fun to shoot, I want one that will save my life, and a Deagle stands a high chance of stove piping, and also a higher chance of killing, so I'll get arrested. As for the bear thing, fine in the Rockies of somewhere like that, but I live in Scotland. And I did once shoot a .44 Magnum S&W 29, but the severe recoil combined with my puny arms broke my nose. In America, you have your range toys. But in Britain, we believe in practicality over power. Hey, everyone's entitled to their own beliefs. Alasdair.
- Not every gun you own has to be for self defence. Being English, none of the guns I own are for self defence, the majority are for sport (in other words, fun). I don't think the target market of the Model 500 and Desert Eagle is people who want one gun for home defence (I also don't think they had the Scottish consumer in mind either). As to your point about about a gun being a poor choice for self defence if it is more likely to kill someone, that is moronic. If you are in a country where it is legal to own a gun for home defence (not Britain for example) and a situation arises where you are justified in using it you don't want to have to be shooting out someone's kneecaps with .22s, you should be shooting to kill in order to save your own life. Just curious, were you shooting the Model 29 in Scotland? --commando552 12:41, 5 April 2012 (CDT)
Saying that a gun that's more likely to kill someone is less suited to home defense, in countries where you can't kill someone even if they shoot at you first is true. A 9mm is best suited to this in the U.K, as it will go straight through and wound, not kill unless you aim directly at the head. In the U.S.A, fine, but can we please keep this argument within the severe U.K gun laws and stupid legal system? And no, the 29 was fired at a shooting range. I'm not yet old enough to own a firearm legally. And they might have had the Scottish market in mind...there's some pretty aggressive wildlife here. I do see your point, though. All I'm saying is guns like this serve little practical purpose. There's no need to insult my perfectly valid opinion of the home defence, though. I've tried to pick up what I can, but my parents are very restrictive and do not support this hobby of mine. I hope to have my eyes opened more, and to open more people's eyes in future. Alasdair.
- I don't know if you are aware of this but first off pistols are pretty mush 100% illegal to own in the UK. The only very rare exceptions to this are game wardens who may require a pistol in special circumstances, such as dense woodland, for culling deer. I wasn't intentionally trying to insult you, but I don't see your opinion as valid and if anything it seems like a dangerous opinion to me. Home defence is not a legal reason for owning a firearm in the UK, the only valid purposes are sport and hunting. If you were to use a firearm you legally had for hunting/sporting purposes for home defence you would likely loose your licence and be prosecuted for firearms offences, regardless of whether you only injured the assailant. It isn't the law that you aren't allowed to kill someone with a gun, you aren't allowed to shoot them at all. You can disagree with British law if you like, but you it is the law as it currently stands. Back on to the topic of guns like the Model 500 IMHO they do have legitimate purposes in sport and hunting, as well as being fun to use (I think this is a legitimate purpose), so I personally don't see them as being useless. --commando552
- Lol, just read this, what a inane question and rant. StanTheMan (talk) 15:11, 28 January 2014 (EST)