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==I would recommend not opining about price or availability of guns unless you know for sure== | ==I would recommend not opining about price or availability of guns unless you know for sure== | ||
I get thinking when I hear remarks like "that's a rare gun" or "That's an expensive Gun" or "that's a much cheaper gun". I think to myself, "That's a rare gun NOW, but they were a commonplace back in the 1970s and 1980s". That's an age issue. Youngsters tend to only know what's true for the marketplace right NOW, not years ago. Also I would recommend NOT making commentary about availability and pricing because people '''with only gun knowledge of the present day''' cannot make credible commentary about gun availability and pricing when the movie was made. The thing about older members is that they tend to remember what was available and what they paid for guns back in the 1980s or 1990s. I still have editions of SHOTGUN news from 1983-1989. Judging from the distributor ads, I remember what was really cheap and plentiful at certain points in time. I've had to argue with people in the past regarding weapons availability when their only knowledge is guesswork based on what's true today. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC) | I get thinking when I hear remarks like "that's a rare gun" or "That's an expensive Gun" or "that's a much cheaper gun". I think to myself, "That's a rare gun NOW, but they were a commonplace back in the 1970s and 1980s". That's an age issue. Youngsters tend to only know what's true for the marketplace right NOW, not years ago. Also I would recommend NOT making commentary about availability and pricing because people '''with only gun knowledge of the present day''' cannot make credible commentary about gun availability and pricing when the movie was made. The thing about older members is that they tend to remember what was available and what they paid for guns back in the 1980s or 1990s. I still have editions of SHOTGUN news from 1983-1989. Judging from the distributor ads, I remember what was really cheap and plentiful at certain points in time. I've had to argue with people in the past regarding weapons availability when their only knowledge is guesswork based on what's true today. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC) | ||
==Taurus Model 689== | |||
It looks to me as if the cylinder doesn't spin when Man #4 fires at Jules and Vince, can anyone else see that? [[User:Stephenf1234|Stephenf1234]] 00:25, 3 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
==Gun Used in the Posters== | ==Gun Used in the Posters== | ||
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:Uh, No, that's a photo. Looks to me to be the 1911, which actually has that connection to Travolta's character.-protoAuthor 20:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC) | :Uh, No, that's a photo. Looks to me to be the 1911, which actually has that connection to Travolta's character.-protoAuthor 20:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC) | ||
What is the gun in front of her in THIS photo??? >> http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Pulp-Fiction-Poster.jpg it doesn't look like a standard M1911A1, Travolta's Auto Ordnance or Jule's Star Model B. | |||
:My guess is it is a photo shopped on gun, and isn't accurate. The frame is from a Beretta 92FS but the slide clearly isn't. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:11, 2 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
== Vincent's firearm safety == | == Vincent's firearm safety == | ||
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Is it so bad because of his heroin habit ? Also his behavior such as hanging around a place without checking the other rooms first etc ? | Is it so bad because of his heroin habit ? Also his behavior such as hanging around a place without checking the other rooms first etc ? | ||
I think it has to do with his lack of proper firearms training. And he also just got out of the bathroom, not just showed up. | :I think it has to do with his lack of proper firearms training. And he also just got out of the bathroom, not just showed up. | ||
:When he's reading that book, Vincent is totally oblivious to anything going on, as evidenced when he's in the bathroom at the diner and doesn't hear the robbery go down until later. So it makes sense that he didn't realize that Butch had come into the house. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:51, 9 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
::I think he's talking about the apartment near the start when he never checked the rooms and ended up almost being shot by the guy with the revolver. | |||
Well, he is clearly untrained because if he was, Marvin would still have a face. Not to mention, when he is in the bathroom, in both Butch's house | |||
and the diner, he is unaware of events going on out side. I believe it's the fact that he is trained , but not highly. simmons 8492 | |||
: I'd say his firearms training (character, not actor) was on a par with most crooks. He knows there is a right end and a wrong end of a gun. He knows pulling the trigger makes it go <bang!>. But the character knows very little about safe handling practices. However, he is willing to shoot other people without any second thought. As for the MAC-10 in the apartment, peeing into a toilet bowl in a small bathroom can be noisy enough to mask other sounds, such as someone entering the apartment and finding the SMG left on the kitchen counter top. And anyway, where are going to put the thing when you're taking a wizz? ''Wraith'' | |||
Well many people think that the MAC-10 is not Vincent's but Marcellus' and he left it to pick up coffee, which is why he has two cups with him and a bag when Butch hits him with his car. Something also tells me that he has his Para Ordnace and not a MAC. And I like the idea that if Jules was still with him he wouldn't have died.[[user:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]] | |||
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==Don't go to the bathroom== | ==Don't go to the bathroom== | ||
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haha, so true --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 08:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC) | haha, so true --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 08:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
yeah thats true(= --[[User:simmons 8492 / | yeah thats true(= --[[User: simmons 8492]] | ||
== Couple's Revolvers == | |||
Does anyone find it ridicilous that Ringo uses a smaller caliber revolver than the girl he's with? | |||
:No...should I?--[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 23:23, 2 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
Of course! Because women are genetically weaker than men and must always carry guns smaller than that of a man! Anything otherwise is sin against nature! | |||
I find it more ridiculous that he used a revolver chambered for a totally obsolete cartridge. - [[User: 2wingo]] | |||
:I don't think I'd call .32 S&W Long obsolete. It's certainly not as popular as .38 SPL or .357 Magnum, but it's still manufactured by multiple companies. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:01, 24 May 2013 (EDT) | |||
Actually, Tim Roth told Tarantino that he wanted to do a movie with Amanda Plummer, with the stipulation that she had to have "a big gun." Maybe that's why he uses a smaller-caliber weapon. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] ([[User talk:Atypicaloracle|talk]]) 06:14, 16 August 2014 (EDT) | |||
== 2002 Trivia Track mistake on the 'Hand Cannon' == | |||
I remember watching the film with the bonus trivia track some time ago, and it said that the 'hand cannon' was a [[Dirty Harry]] reference and went on to state that the gun 'Man #4' uses is a .44 magnum, which as we now know is incorrect. Of course this doesn't surprise me. Just irks me to see them get the info on the guns wrong sometimes. Of course, the 'Ultimate Edition' First Blood DVD I got is worse, so, bah. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:23, 1 July 2011 (CDT) | |||
==Model B & 1911 Usage== | |||
I've been curious about a detail in this movie for some time now and wanted to see if anyone here knew anything about it. I know the use of the Star Model B was extensive in movies before the late 90s because of the poor quality of .45 ACP blanks and the resemblance the Model B has with the 1911. That being said, I've wondered why a Model B and a 1911 were both used in this film. If the .45 ACP blanks were good enough that the 1911 could be used, why not use two matching ones? | |||
One possibility is the weapons house didn't have two nickel plated 1911s and they used a Model B due to the resemblance. Another theory I came up with was that Tarantino, being a huge movie buff, would probably know this factoid about the 1911/Model B usage in films such as The Wild Bunch, Dillinger and The Untouchables, and referenced that relationship by using both the Model B and the 1911 it regularly stood in for. | |||
Anybody else have any other theories? --[[User:Caldwellb734|Caldwellb734]] ([[User talk:Caldwellb734|talk]]) 21:43, 6 January 2016 (EST) | |||
: I think the more probable explanation was that there weren't two similar nickel .45s available. Could also however be attention to detail on Tarantino's part - Keep in mind Jules' gun is explicitly referenced as 'Mr. 9mm' so maybe Tarantino wanted to keep accurate to that fact while still having similar-looking 1911-style guns between him and Vincent. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 02:49, 7 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::It appears you're right! I just looked up the script and the line you mentioned was actually originally written as "Mr. .45" ([http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Pulp-Fiction.html Link to the script], it's almost all the way at the bottom), so the intent of two matching 1911s was initially there but it seems they had to use the Model B and changed the line for the scene. --[[User:Caldwellb734|Caldwellb734]] ([[User talk:Caldwellb734|talk]]) 15:13, 8 January 2016 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 20:13, 8 January 2016
I would recommend not opining about price or availability of guns unless you know for sure
I get thinking when I hear remarks like "that's a rare gun" or "That's an expensive Gun" or "that's a much cheaper gun". I think to myself, "That's a rare gun NOW, but they were a commonplace back in the 1970s and 1980s". That's an age issue. Youngsters tend to only know what's true for the marketplace right NOW, not years ago. Also I would recommend NOT making commentary about availability and pricing because people with only gun knowledge of the present day cannot make credible commentary about gun availability and pricing when the movie was made. The thing about older members is that they tend to remember what was available and what they paid for guns back in the 1980s or 1990s. I still have editions of SHOTGUN news from 1983-1989. Judging from the distributor ads, I remember what was really cheap and plentiful at certain points in time. I've had to argue with people in the past regarding weapons availability when their only knowledge is guesswork based on what's true today. MoviePropMaster2008 20:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Taurus Model 689
It looks to me as if the cylinder doesn't spin when Man #4 fires at Jules and Vince, can anyone else see that? Stephenf1234 00:25, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Gun Used in the Posters
What's the gun that uses Uma Thurman in the Pulp Fiction posters? Is a Star B? Or a M1911 ?
About the Gun, i ask about the original poster:
http://lentecreativo.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/poster-pulp-fiction1.jpg http://www.mi-direccion.com/divx/P/Pulp-Fiction-DVD.jpg http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/MiaWallacePulpFiction.jpg http://www.tarantino.info/wiki/images/Mia-b%26w_shirt-02.jpg obviously the other poster uses a computer generated or drawn gun.
Thanxs
- Uh, No, that's a photo. Looks to me to be the 1911, which actually has that connection to Travolta's character.-protoAuthor 20:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
What is the gun in front of her in THIS photo??? >> http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Pulp-Fiction-Poster.jpg it doesn't look like a standard M1911A1, Travolta's Auto Ordnance or Jule's Star Model B.
- My guess is it is a photo shopped on gun, and isn't accurate. The frame is from a Beretta 92FS but the slide clearly isn't. --commando552 18:11, 2 April 2012 (CDT)
Vincent's firearm safety
Is it so bad because of his heroin habit ? Also his behavior such as hanging around a place without checking the other rooms first etc ?
- I think it has to do with his lack of proper firearms training. And he also just got out of the bathroom, not just showed up.
- When he's reading that book, Vincent is totally oblivious to anything going on, as evidenced when he's in the bathroom at the diner and doesn't hear the robbery go down until later. So it makes sense that he didn't realize that Butch had come into the house. --Ben41 08:51, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think he's talking about the apartment near the start when he never checked the rooms and ended up almost being shot by the guy with the revolver.
Well, he is clearly untrained because if he was, Marvin would still have a face. Not to mention, when he is in the bathroom, in both Butch's house
and the diner, he is unaware of events going on out side. I believe it's the fact that he is trained , but not highly. simmons 8492
- I'd say his firearms training (character, not actor) was on a par with most crooks. He knows there is a right end and a wrong end of a gun. He knows pulling the trigger makes it go <bang!>. But the character knows very little about safe handling practices. However, he is willing to shoot other people without any second thought. As for the MAC-10 in the apartment, peeing into a toilet bowl in a small bathroom can be noisy enough to mask other sounds, such as someone entering the apartment and finding the SMG left on the kitchen counter top. And anyway, where are going to put the thing when you're taking a wizz? Wraith
Well many people think that the MAC-10 is not Vincent's but Marcellus' and he left it to pick up coffee, which is why he has two cups with him and a bag when Butch hits him with his car. Something also tells me that he has his Para Ordnace and not a MAC. And I like the idea that if Jules was still with him he wouldn't have died.simmons 8492
Don't go to the bathroom
It seems to be one of the morals of the film is 'Don't go to the bathroom'. As someone pointed out to me, whenever someone does something bad happens to them....Foofbun 20:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
haha, so true --Jackbel 08:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
yeah thats true(= --User: simmons 8492
Couple's Revolvers
Does anyone find it ridicilous that Ringo uses a smaller caliber revolver than the girl he's with?
- No...should I?--Jackbel 23:23, 2 April 2012 (CDT)
Of course! Because women are genetically weaker than men and must always carry guns smaller than that of a man! Anything otherwise is sin against nature!
I find it more ridiculous that he used a revolver chambered for a totally obsolete cartridge. - User: 2wingo
- I don't think I'd call .32 S&W Long obsolete. It's certainly not as popular as .38 SPL or .357 Magnum, but it's still manufactured by multiple companies. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:01, 24 May 2013 (EDT)
Actually, Tim Roth told Tarantino that he wanted to do a movie with Amanda Plummer, with the stipulation that she had to have "a big gun." Maybe that's why he uses a smaller-caliber weapon. Atypicaloracle (talk) 06:14, 16 August 2014 (EDT)
2002 Trivia Track mistake on the 'Hand Cannon'
I remember watching the film with the bonus trivia track some time ago, and it said that the 'hand cannon' was a Dirty Harry reference and went on to state that the gun 'Man #4' uses is a .44 magnum, which as we now know is incorrect. Of course this doesn't surprise me. Just irks me to see them get the info on the guns wrong sometimes. Of course, the 'Ultimate Edition' First Blood DVD I got is worse, so, bah. StanTheMan 22:23, 1 July 2011 (CDT)
Model B & 1911 Usage
I've been curious about a detail in this movie for some time now and wanted to see if anyone here knew anything about it. I know the use of the Star Model B was extensive in movies before the late 90s because of the poor quality of .45 ACP blanks and the resemblance the Model B has with the 1911. That being said, I've wondered why a Model B and a 1911 were both used in this film. If the .45 ACP blanks were good enough that the 1911 could be used, why not use two matching ones? One possibility is the weapons house didn't have two nickel plated 1911s and they used a Model B due to the resemblance. Another theory I came up with was that Tarantino, being a huge movie buff, would probably know this factoid about the 1911/Model B usage in films such as The Wild Bunch, Dillinger and The Untouchables, and referenced that relationship by using both the Model B and the 1911 it regularly stood in for. Anybody else have any other theories? --Caldwellb734 (talk) 21:43, 6 January 2016 (EST)
- I think the more probable explanation was that there weren't two similar nickel .45s available. Could also however be attention to detail on Tarantino's part - Keep in mind Jules' gun is explicitly referenced as 'Mr. 9mm' so maybe Tarantino wanted to keep accurate to that fact while still having similar-looking 1911-style guns between him and Vincent. StanTheMan (talk) 02:49, 7 January 2016 (EST)
- It appears you're right! I just looked up the script and the line you mentioned was actually originally written as "Mr. .45" (Link to the script, it's almost all the way at the bottom), so the intent of two matching 1911s was initially there but it seems they had to use the Model B and changed the line for the scene. --Caldwellb734 (talk) 15:13, 8 January 2016 (EST)