Talk:The A-Team (TV Series): Difference between revisions

Latest revision as of 19:27, 28 July 2023

Added the Remington 700, Colt Lawman MK III, Federal M201-Z and a close-up of Col. Decker wielding the MAC-10. If I misidentified any of the weapons feel free to make the necessary corrections -- User:Milkovich 09:36, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Hannibal used a nickel S&W Auto? Huh? Is someone mistaking a Browning Hi-Power for a S&W or is this some other gun he might have used at some point (the Hi-Power was his go to sidearm) that is being referred to?

Hannibal carried a chrome S&W 639(or 39) in his waist band or holster but when he's shown shooting a hand gun its nearly always a Browning HP. But because of the rivalry between Peppard and Mr. T, Peppard is the only actor seen using an M60 machine gun while Mr. T is seen to be using the chrome S&W auto.--The Mercenary 18:07, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you guys should rewatch the series. They still show it in my city. At the beginnnig of the series, Hannibal carrid a Browning Hi-Power, later on, he switches to a Smith & Wesson 63p. B.A. carried a full sized Star handgun, not sure of the exact model.

About Done

I finished adding the weapons featured in Seasons 2, 3 and 4. I´ll add those missing from Seasons 1 and 5 tomorrow if I get around to it. There is still the one revolver at the bottom of this discussion page to identify.

Alright. This is almost it. The UZI carbine still needs a screencap and I got two more weapons which have to be identified. I will add them to the bottom of this page later. -- User:Milkovich 10:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Just tried to replace one of the old screencaps, but the site wont let me. -- User:Milkovich 18:51, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Unknown Smith & Wesson

Hannibal used a nickel S&W Classic auto for almost the whole show...it may have been a 539, but I don't know.

Given the difficulty determining single or double stack, the following could have been his S&W pistol:

Model 439 Model 539 Model 639 Model 459 Model 559 Model 659

No, it was definitely a single-stack model. The way you can tell the difference is by looking for the bulges in the frame (represented by vertical lines) that indicate where the frame was widened to take a double-stack magazine. If it doesn't have those, it's a single-stack model, and Hannibal's gun definitely didn't have them. I'm pretty sure it was a 539.

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 == Weapons to be identified ==
-[[Image:Showdown Revolver wide.jpg|thumb|none|300px|It looks like a Colt Single Action Army  ]]
+[[Image:A Team S5 ODDIF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
-[[Image:A TEam S1 PILOTVICK.jpg|thumb|none|300px|I think that this is a Vickers-Berthier Mk. I light machine gun]]
-[[Image:A TEam S1 PILOTGREAS 2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
-[[Image:A Team S5 ODDBALL.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
+[[Image:A Team S5 UNDERTOE3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
-[[Image:A Team S5 ODDIF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
 Any help with these is greatly appreciated.
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 -[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 20:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
-::Thanks for the help, but it does not match up 100 %, check [http://grungebag.webs.com/thompsonclones.htm]. This guy has a good side view of the Apache. The biggest difference is the fore-grip and a few details on the receiver (I am not exactly gun-savvy, so I am not familiar with the correct terminology here). There is another clone called the ''Spitfire'' which I haven't been able to dig more info on this far. -[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 10:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
+::Thanks for the help, but it does not match up 100 %, check [http://grungebag.webs.com/thompsonclones.htm]. This guy has a good side view of the Apache. The biggest difference is the fore-grip and a few details on the receiver (I am not exactly gun-savvy, so I am not familiar with the correct terminology here). There is another clone called the ''Spitfire'' which I haven't been able to dig more info up on this far. -[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 10:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
+Added two grenade launchers. The second looks like a Federal Gas, but this one has sights on the launch tube. -[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 10:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
+: Removed 4 screenshots of weapons that have been included in the article.--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 09:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
+== Yup, it was the 80's ==
+A little off topic, but it looks like the football team in the picture below is none other than the LA Express of the USFL, just another detail from the A-Team that screams the 80's. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 12:49, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
+[[Image:A Team S4 AKM.jpg|thumb|none|500px|And the USFL will forever live on in reruns.]]
+Holy Cow!  Hannibal is holding one of the EARLY MODEL Maadi ARMs with the nice linseed oiled wood furniture and the nice finish.  They stopped making good ones in the mid 1980s but this one screams 1983! :) LOL.  Brings back the days. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:53, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
+== Colt Lawman ==
+I just found an older screenshot of Peck, and I am not so sure any more that the revolver I previously identified as a Lawman is really that.
+[[Image:WUCBRR Rev.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
+Could someone confirm my first identification? --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 19:14, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
+==Remember all Flintlocks are not rifles==
+Rifles only refer to rifled barrels.  Many of the longs guns "Brown Bess" "French Charleville Musket - 1766 Model Flintlock", etc were all SMOOTHBORE Long guns, there was no rifling at all in their barrels.  When in doubt use the term Flintlock or perhaps Flintlock long guns, but it looks weird when the term rifle is used and the gun is later identified to be a smooth bore musket. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
+: Alright, fixed it. Thanks. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 11:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
+::Actually, that wasn't a flintlock. It was a Civil War era Springfield 1861 (or possibly an 1855, but you can't tell without a better look at the lock), and it's a percussion lock. Flintlocks have a big flash pan and striking surface ("frizzen") in front of the "hammer" (actually called the cock) which has big vice grips for a actual piece of flint. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]
+== Beretta 92 ==
+[[Image:A Team S4 M9.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
+This is not a Beretta 92; it has the slide-mounted safety/decocker.  Therefore, it's either a Beretta 92SB or a 92F. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:04, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
+:I'd go with 92SB, season 5 aired in '86, the 92F was released in '85 and filming is usually a few months prior to airing. It looks to me like it has wood grips which is sometimes seen on the 92F's but more on the SB and older 92's. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 13:25, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
+Can anybody give me the link to where they got all the screencaps it would be greatly appriciated.
+== General Stockwell´s personal sidearm ==
+Completely forgot about the scene where Stockwell shoots the model plane of B. A.
+[[Image:A Team S5TORPIST.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
+A [[Walther PP]]? --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 15:12, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
+: Added it. If someone can tell the calibre from the bore, please add it. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 16:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
+== Type 99? ==
+The assassin in "Alive at Five" uses another rifle that can be disassembled. It doesn't look like the Arisaka on the page , though.
+[[Image:A Team S5AAFT99.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
+--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
+== Star M28? ==
+Used throughout Season 5.
+[[Image:A Team S5 FRSTAR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
+[[Image:A Team S5PONRStar.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
+--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
+: Added. Not sure if It's really a M28, since there seem to be only minimal visual differencs between the 28/30/31 models. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 12:12, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
+== Modified M79  ==
+[[Image:A Team S2 PDPLaunch.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]
+[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
+The sights configuration bears a striking resemblance to the M79. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 14:07, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
+== Colt Government Model M1911A1 ==
+[[Image:ColtGovernmentModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Government Model M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
+[[Image:A Team S2 HTILGOV.jpg|thumb|none|300px|"Harder Than It Looks", Season 2.]]
+[[Image:A Team S2 SIWBGOV.jpg|thumb|none|300px|"Say It With Bullets", Season 2.]]
+I am only going from the outward appearance here. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 09:35, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
+:That's what I would classify them as, they are likely Series 70, but the Series 80 were around at time also.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:07, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
+:: "Absolute confirmation on the exact model is not possible, since the original [[Colt Government Model]], [[Colt MK IV Series 70]] and [[Colt MK IV Series 80]] were all available at the time of filming (1983 to 1987).". Thus far I have seen it in Season 2 and 4. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 20:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
+== Ruger Redhawk ==
+One of Styles's henchmen in "The Trouble with Harry", Season 4, uses a [[Ruger Redhawk]].
+[[Image:RugerRedhawk.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnum. Stainless steel.]]
+[[Image:A Team S4 TWHREV.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The man to the left holds his [[Ruger Redhawk]]. ]]
+Is this correct? I am basing this mostly on the front sight. I cant really tell the rounds used by the muzzle diameter, so some confirmation would be welcome. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 18:17, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
+:Unless there's shot of the cylinder release, Redhawk is a good assumption. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
+== Unknown Revolver ==
+[[Image:A Team S4 RARRug.jpg|thumb|none|300px|"The Heart of Rock N' Roll"]]
+--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 13:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
+:Looking at the Model 29 he held in S2, I would go with Model 19. But the different barrel lengths could be throwing me off. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:27, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
+:: [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]]? --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 20:02, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
+:::It looks too shiny to be stainless, so I figured a nickel Model 19. Stainless unless it's been polished is dull.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:45, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
+== Unidentified Dart Gun ==
+[[Image:A Team S4 TGTNDart.jpg|thumb|none|300px|"There Goes the Neighbourhood", Season 4.]]
+--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 13:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
+*Is it ever seen firing? The orange tip implies it's a toy. [[User:Vangelis2|Vangelis2]] 08:16, 23 March 2011 (CDT)
+: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dart_gun. I hate having to use wikipedia as a source. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 05:17, 24 March 2011 (CDT)
+::Oh, they usually call those sucker guns over here. [[User:Vangelis2|Vangelis2]] 00:34, 9 April 2011 (CDT)
+== M203, Cobray? ==
+Or just another mock-up?
+[[Image:A Team S4 CGM2032.jpg|thumb|none|300px|"Cowboy George", Season 4]]
+[[Image:A Team S4 CGM203.jpg|thumb|none|300px|"Cowboy George", Season 4]]
+It makes a reappearance in "The Trouble with Harry".
+--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 16:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
+: Checked again. Looks closer to the Cobray than the M203. The tube isn't long enough for it to be the faux launcher. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 07:35, 23 March 2011 (CDT)
+== Winchester Model 1897 ? ==
+[[Image:A Team S4 CGWinShot.jpg|thumb|none|300px|"Cowboy George", Season 4]]
+[[Image:A Team S4 CGWinShot2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|"Cowboy George", Season 4]]
+--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:07, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
+:Oh yeah definitely. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:29, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
+:: Added. Any idea why they would put tape on them like that? --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 20:06, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
+[[Image:WinchesterM1897.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 Riot Gun - 12 gauge]]
+== Over and Under Shotgun ==
+I checked the additional variants on the [[Talk:12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double Barreled Shotgun talk page]], and the only one that matches at least partially is this one:
+[[Image:Hitphotogun.jpg|thumb|none|300px| This is a photoshopped image of what the Sawn-Off Over/Under Shotgun - 12 Gauge could look like, with the exception that the foregrip is still attached.]]
+[[Image:A Team S5 SHOT.jpg|thumb|none|300px|"The Spy Who Mugged Me", Season 5]]
+--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 07:18, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
+==Smith & Wesson 915==
+I can't be a 915, it wasn't introduced until '92 and wasn't available in stainless either. I think it's just a 639 with fixed sights, versus the adjustable seen on the others.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 07:53, 30 March 2011 (CDT)
+: Really? Damn. I never wanted to go beyond 4 screenshots per firearm, but I guess the ones currently filed under the 915 would have to be moved. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 09:40, 30 March 2011 (CDT)
+::Since it's one of the lead actors, you can break that rule.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 10:14, 30 March 2011 (CDT)
+== Crossbow ==
+[[File:A Team S5AAFCROSS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|"Alive at Five"]]
+[[File:A Team S5AAFCROSS2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|"Alive at Five"]]
+Thought I'd be a nice addition to the article. If we can't figure it out I'll just add it as "Crossbow". --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 03:44, 17 May 2011 (CDT)
+== "A Small and Deadly War" Revolver and rifle ==
+[[File:A Team S1 AADWPock.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]
+My only guess right now is a [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]]. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 03:35, 22 June 2011 (CDT)
+:Mine too.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 06:27, 22 June 2011 (CDT)
+[[File:A Team S1 ASADWSnip.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]
+[[File:A Team S1 ASADWSnip2.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]
+--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 04:20, 22 June 2011 (CDT)
+== Star Model B? ==
+[[File:A TEam S1 PACM1911.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|"Pros and Cons".]]
+--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 03:45, 22 June 2011 (CDT)
+:Yes definitely, look at the extractor.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 06:25, 22 June 2011 (CDT)
+:: Sort of sad that you can't distinguish between the Model B and the 1911 if you only have a left side view. I have the feeling that this particular weapon had a lot more appearances than this one. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 06:51, 22 June 2011 (CDT)
+==Beretta BM59==
+The [[A-Team, The#FN FAL|FN FAL]] entry on the page says that the FALs are being used by the Italian Navy in the episode "Judgment Day, Pt. 2" because the [[Beretta BM59]] was unavailable in the U.S. Actually, a civilian version of the BM59 was released in the U.S., and our page for [[Miami Vice - Season 2#Beretta BM59|Miami Vice - Season 2]] documents a BM59 appearance, which would suggest that movie armorers purchased some of them.  I am guessing that in the case of ''The A-Team'', the problem was simply that the armorers couldn't get a BM59 at the time the episode was filmed. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 08:50, 22 June 2011 (CDT)
+: Thanks for the information. And my apologies for putting the Thompson in the wrong category. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 09:00, 22 June 2011 (CDT)
+== "Holiday in the Hills" rifle ==
+[[File:A Team S1 HINTHMAN.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|On the very left]]
+--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 10:16, 22 June 2011 (CDT)
+== Beretta 92? 951? ==
+[[File:A Team S1 TBFTBOABBerr.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|]]
+Certainly one of the briefest appearances of a pistol on ''The A-Team''. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 03:51, 23 June 2011 (CDT)
+: Compared it to various images of the M951 and it matches up perfectly as far as I can tell. Added to the article.  --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 06:05, 5 July 2011 (CDT)
+== Ingram SMG ==
+The picture with Murdock holding the SMG cant be an Ingram. It looks nothing like the Ingram Model 6. Too small of a reciever and too big of a barrel, also it looks like it has a Thompson SMG stock. Gunner5
+== M1 Carbine ==
+Recently, I started watching episodes of the "The A-Team" on Hulu. In season one, episode eleven, ("One More Time") it seemed to me that many of the guerrillas in Borneo were armed with M1 carbines. Some of the M1 carbines in this episode had bayonet lugs, while some others did not, and a few of them had those rod-like Owens telescopic stocks.
+I noticed that the M1 carbine is missing from the list of rifles on the main page. Could somebody please add this one? Thanks! --[[User:Kepiblanc|Kepiblanc]] 10:26, 19 December 2011 (CST)
+[[File:A Team S1 OMTRM1.jpg|thumb|none|350px| ]]
+You mean these? --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 02:46, 19 December 2011 (CST)
+:Yes, three of the guerrillas in this still frame appear to be armed with M1 carbines. The guerrilla furthest to the right appears to be armed an M1 carbine which has a bayonet lug, while the guerrilla second from the left appears to be armed an M1 carbine which does not have a bayonet lug. The guerrilla in between these two appears to be armed with an M1 carbine which has an Owens telescopic stock. The guerrilla furthest to the left appears to be armed with some other type of rifle that I cannot quite identify from this angle. --[[User:Kepiblanc|Kepiblanc]] 10:36, 19 December 2011 (CST)

Talk:The A-Team (TV Series): Difference between revisions

Latest revision as of 19:27, 28 July 2023

About Done

Unknown Smith & Wesson

unknown B.A. handgun

Discussion moved here, updates to Mini 14 section will be forthcoming

Weapons to be identified

Yup, it was the 80's

Colt Lawman

Remember all Flintlocks are not rifles

Beretta 92

General Stockwell´s personal sidearm

Type 99?

Star M28?

Modified M79

Colt Government Model M1911A1

Ruger Redhawk

Unknown Revolver

Unidentified Dart Gun

M203, Cobray?

Winchester Model 1897 ?

Over and Under Shotgun

Smith & Wesson 915

Crossbow

"A Small and Deadly War" Revolver and rifle

Star Model B?

Beretta BM59

"Holiday in the Hills" rifle

Beretta 92? 951?

Ingram SMG

M1 Carbine

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