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A shame the trailer is soo low quality, it makes the screencaps look horrible --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 20:12, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
==Question on the weapons used==
anyone know what the 6th barrel down is, between the silenced M4 and the MP7? Might be a shotgun of sorts, based on the barrel/handguard...also no magazine. Can pick out the grip/trigger to the right of the skull's eye.
:Sorry about that, I was looking on the internet and they said that there was a HD version but all the sites that had the trailer were the same quality with some being worse. --[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 22:57, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2378533888/tt1320253
No need to apologize, I don't blame you -I also looked and found the same problem. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:10, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
-Barrett M107 with SUSAT (?!) Scope
-M16A1
-C8 with M203
-G36 with AG36
-No idea
-Shorty Remington 870 / Masterkey
-MP7
-Mk. 23
-Model 29
-Steyr M9A1
-Beretta M9 with front cocking serrations
-SVI Infinity
-Beretta 93R
-Desert Eagle
-A fuckload of knifes --[[User:Yocapo32|yocapo32]] 03:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
It matches the sg9000 airsoft shotgun i once saw at a gunshow. so i think it may be it.
I also thing stathams 92 is most likely a 92G elite, or a ninety two based on the squared off pistol grip - captain snikt
I also thing stathams 92 is most likely a 92G elite, or a ninety two based on the squared off pistol grip - captain snikt
Tango Down makes a pistol grip almost identical to that of the HK416, the BG-16 Battle Grip or so it's supposedly called. It could be one of those. I'd rather wait until we can find better shots of his gun to determine whether it's a 416 or not. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 23:34, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
== Cameos ==
== Cameos ==
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:I just saw Commando last week so...no I don't miss his voice [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
:I just saw Commando last week so...no I don't miss his voice [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Anyone else think Clint Eastwood shoulda had a cameo?
I gotta disagree. He was huge int he 80s of course, but not in the same way these guys were. Eastwood is on another level in many ways. My question, where is Segal? Chuck Norris? Tom Berhinger?
:I agree on Clint. While he was a definite star, he was a different sort of star than these guys. As for your question about where is Seagal? Well, he WAS offered a part and turned it down. Apparently, Seagal has issues with one of the produces of The Expendables and refuses to work with him(you can catch him September in Machete though). Jean-Claude Van Damme was also offered a role and turned it down, because he "doesn't want his career going in that direction"(that direction being "up" I assume), and Kurt Russell turned a part down due to "a lack of interest in ensemble acting at this time". Wesley Snipes was going to be in it, but he wasn't allowed to leave the country due to that whole tax evasion thing, so he couldn't go down to South America or Mexico or wherever it was they filmed it. Chuck woulda fit in too, but I don't think he was offered a part. And Berrenger? Nothing against the guy, but Berrenger was pretty much third tier even in his heyday, even the average classic action fan isn't gonna bring him up when they're thinking of action stars. Not that I woulda opposed him don't get me wrong, but at the same time, I don't think his omission is exactly as noticeable as say, Seagal or Mel Gibson(I think we can all guess why he wasn't offered a part) for example. I also missed Chow Yun-Fat. Li is a badass to be sure and I'm glad he's here, but woulda been cool to see Chow going back to old school Woo-mode and packing a couple handguns as well. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 12:52, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
::Addendum. Apparently at Comic-Con, Stallone said "I talked to Van Damme. I talked to [Steven] Segal. I even talked to Chuck Norris." He then added, "But there are certain considerations, like insanity.". Not sure if the insanity line was specifically for one of them, or all of them. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 22:50, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Screw Chuck Norris bring Jack Bauer up in here. [[User:24guns|24guns]]
:I totally woulda dug Kiefer Sutherland getting a part. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 12:52, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Jackie Chan should have been in this. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 23:36, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
::Nope, Jackie Chan focuses on much lighter 'comical' action fare. He would not be comfortable with such grisly violence as this does not fit with his cinema history well at all. It would not have made sense to include Jackie Chan. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually Jackie Chan did a lot of serious, even dark action/drama movies before ([[New Police Story]] for example). It's just that his Hollywood movies are all action comedy and that's what North American viewers are used to.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 17:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Damn straight[[User:24guns|24guns]]
Bruce Campbell ftw. -SasquatchJim
In the inevitable sequel, (probably not as inevitable as I'd like to think, but I can dream, can't I?) my top choices would have to be Kiefer Sutherland, Clint Eastwood, Harrison Ford, and Steven Segal. Maybe Carl Weathers too. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 18:41, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
==Charles Daly 1911's - CONFIRMED AS KIMBER CUSTOMS==
The pistols list as Charles Daly Customs are Kimber Customs with Bright Blue finish. But I will confirm before I change the heading.-[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]] 00:04, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Who in their right mind would customize a Charles Daly...I would have to hear it from the movie armor himself before i believe that one.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 15:49, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
CONFIRMED:Whoever thought they were CDs could not have been further off. Like the above, my vote went for Kimber, and NOW it is CONFIRMED--->
--[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 23:19, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
After this confirmation I changed the heading on the main page to reflect this. Since, I confess, I'm kinda new at editing this, I just changed the heading, wasn't sure if the details of the customization are meant to be included or not. If they are, feel free to add whatever is necessary. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
==clip==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elpaRzwICMk
I think there is a Saiga 12 being used by Hale Caesar (Terry Crews) in the clip
== Holy Cow ==
So many action stars in one movie. This can only be good --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 15:59, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
==Plane==
Can anyone identify the plane and the machine guns in the nose they use to take out the dock?
:I would guess either .30 or .50 cal browning machine guns
Plane is a Grumman HU-16 Albatross. --[[User:Sidewinder Forge|Sidewinder Forge]] 14:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
::And they are identified in 'the making of' pre-released video as 50 cals, so I assume they are AN-M2 machine guns [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Interesting Fact: In "Inferno: The making of the Expendables", which is really good, Stallone only thought of that scene with Statham on the front of the plane and them dropping gas on the soldiers on the dock during production. They were literally almost done shooting when he saw a crew member standing in the hatch area and thought, "Hey, ya know what would be cool?" I think that's awesome that a director can pull a scene like that out of his head and have the crew instantly support it.
== Gunnar's M79 ==
I saw a Clip from when the Screenshot was taken. I believe he uses a Non-Explosive round like the HK69A1 in Miami Vice.
[[Image:Expendables-M79-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Gunnar Jensen opens fire with his [[M79 grenade launcher|M79]].]][[Image:MV_Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tubbs pulls out his [[Heckler & Koch HK69A1 40mm Launcher|Heckler & Koch HK69A1]] on Yero.]]
It's possible, the Miami Vive Round is a custom made single shot (giant) shotgun round made from a 40mm.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 23:29, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:: It's not a custom round per se; it's called a M576. It loads 20 pellets of #4 shot, and the US Army developed it because the original plan was that the M79 would the grenadier's only weapon, and you can't exactly shoot someone standing right in front of you with a grenade. Well, I suppose you could, but it wouldn't be terribly practical. The M576 is also compatible with the M203, though generally what a 40mm shotgun does you can do with a Masterkey or M1014. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 04:31, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
== Christ, those pistols look tiny. ==
I mean, I shouldn't be surprised that Stalone has massive hands, but still, the Beretta and the SSA look absolutely tiny in his hands. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 04:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
== Willis' Role ==
From what I've heard, Willis isn't just a cameo. He apparently plays an important part in the plot. At least, that's what I've heard. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 21:32, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
SPOILER SPOILER
*I saw it today. He isn't much more than a cameo. Three minutes of screen time, and mentioned again later.
*Stallone and Statham make up a sizeable portion of it, effectively being the two leads.
-SasquatchJim, 19:47 EST 13 August 2010
==Just watched it==
Pardon my french, but i fucking loved it!!! Arnie and bruce sadly only do cameos, but its worth it for a few jokes.
But onto the guns. Stallone (barny ross) is packing a pair of Kimber M1911's (which sometimes he fires so fast it nears automatic) one on each thigh. He does some perfect and frankly beautiful speedloads with them too. On the same belt he also caries the custom single action army on a quickdraw rig to his rear.
Stathams (lee christmas) main sidearm, seen mostly in the final action peice is a Beretta 92G Elite 1A which he uses in conjunction with throwing knives and if im being honest kinda steals the show.
The other real star of the movie is Terry Crews AA12, given its own into speech he even shows us the Frag 12 mini rocket out of its casing and explains to the audience just how cool the frag 12 really is, and the scenes he uses it truely do it justice, people are torn apart in a gorey wargasm.
Oh and Dolph Lundgren (Gunnar) briefly threatens Stone Cold with a shorty shotgun with a folding frong grip, much like Tubb's from miami vice, possibly a franchi but i cant be sure.
Ok there's my 50 cents, but it really did kick ass--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 23:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, Captain. The scene where he first uses the AA-12 is EPIC. I'm not normally a fan of the AA-12, but I had to respect it here. Also, many of Statham's fistfight scenes were awesome.
* As a side note, I believe the shotgun was a Serbu Super Shorty. I could easily be wrong, though.
*I think Yin was using a Steyr TMP in the back of Barney's truck. Again, don't quote me on that.
-SasquatchJim, 21:22 EST, 13 August 2010 (Not a member, but I've been told to sign my posts.)
Statham's fight scenes were cool. He messed that guy in the blue polo up with that kick to the head. --[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]
Suberu shorty looks like the gun, but i think it was a brugger and thompet MP9 not the TMP due to the folding stock, and its always good practise to sign your posts --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:35, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh, sorry. I've never heard of the MP9. BTW, am I signing my posts right, since I'm not a user? -SasquatchJim 21:55 EST 13 August 2010
Brugger and Thommet bought out the stery tmp design an released ith with a folding stock as the MP-9, and yeah, thats fine, you dont need the date/time stamp but its always welcome --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
It was badass, just a great fun to watch action movie not loaded with preachy messages or other bullshit. They said it would be like an awesome 80s action movie, and delivered. BTW, I dont think there charles daly 1911s. Im betting their kimbers like Pheonixint said. BTW, remember when i think it was steve austin took off stallone's vest (which looked like a blackhawk strike) and said that without the kevlar hed be ripped apart or something to that effect, that the vest had no kevlar, it was just load bearing equipment, no panels or plates.
No crap...where is the evidence that these are Charles daly? Like i said, who would buy a cheap 1911 just to customize it all badass like?--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 20:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
And pheonixint is in the industry, his info is usually real solid, while i dont see one shred of evidence its a bargain bin 1911.
There's only one reason I can think as to why they'd be CD 1911s: The directors wanted to save money bu using inexpensive 1911s and customizing them. E.G. Using a $600 1911 instead of a $3000 one. I don't know, though.-SasquatchJim
== The Knives ==
Does anyone know the knives that they used in the movie? I saw some links to the ones that Sly and Doph uses, but I want to know what are the ones that Jason Statham uses. He had the kunai throwing knives and the folding knife in that one scene. I really want that knife now. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:23, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:In the end credits, it says knives provided by Gil Hibben. Tool's throwing knives in the end were definitely Hibbens. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 21:05, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
http://www.hibbenknives.com/expendables.htm
The first knife Tool drew from his boot and threw, was a Cold Steel Espada. Gunner313
== What gun is stallone using in the tunnels? ==
I couldn't see it good enough to ID but it looks like a MP7. Anyone else got an opinion?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:20, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure Stallone was using one of the kitted out M4A1 Carbine things, but he was holding it with one hand by the foregrip instead of at the ready because he was using it mainly for the flashlight. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
Pretty much. I have no idea what part of that thing looks like an MP7. If you look at the main page, the Vltor rifles were all what the team was using [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:27, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I know he was using a Vltor later but when he was alone in the tunnels. I don't know just had a feeling it was.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:38, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I think the bad dark lighting of the movie confused you [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:39, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
He was holding the vltor by the surefire light foregrip, definatly - Captain snikt
Yep, I just saw the movie again, and as the other guys said, he's carrying the Vltor by the foregrip, there's no MP7 in sight. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 22:01, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Its a noveske, vltor makes the stock and rail system.
I was looking at the front of the gun and never looked at the back so it looked like a machine pistol of somesort so I assumed a MP7. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 16:46, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
== New Guns SPOILERS ==
[[Image:Shorty3-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Gunnar ([[Dolph Lundgren]]) pulls a [[Serbu Super Shorty]] on Monroe's Henchmen when negotiating a deal. The shotgun looks like a pistol in the hand's of the formidable actor.]]
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg |thumb|none|400px|Paine ([[Steve Austin]]) reacts to this and holds his [[H&K USP]] on Gunnar.]]
Someone needs to add these guns.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:24, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
== Yin Yang's pistol? ==
Anyone recall what pistol Jet Li's character was carrying at the end battle? There was so much going on during that assault that I was just sitting and enjoying the carnage, without paying as much attention to weapon details as I normally would. And now that I'm sitting here trying to recall, my mind is blanking on me. Anyone able to refresh my memory? [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:32, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
He had a pistol? There was too much for me to take in at once!--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:24, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, he most noticeably using it when he was clearing the soldiers out of one of those tents or whatever they were. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 05:55, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh yeah now I remember it, I believe it was a Beretta. I could be wrong though.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 15:00, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Its definaty a 'box' shaped pistol, I just watched it again, looked like a p99 to me, but the only times we see it he is moving, there are no close up either --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:27, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:Now that you mention it, I vaguely recall it looking like a P99 as well. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 22:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
i say it looked like a small glock, maybe a 19, not sure
I haven't seen the movie, but on a poster at my theatre, Jet Li has a SIG Pro in his holster, don't know if he has one in the movie though.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 05:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:Hmm, that could be it, actually. Fairly sure it's not a Glock, but it could definitely be a SIG Pro. Thanks for the info man. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 22:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
yep that is defintly the gun he used in the film, the pics of the slide in the film during that scene look the same
i remember a pistol, he sort of takes cover behind something and then kills the guys and shows a full shot of the gun in his hand kind of pointing down. im going to see it again tommorow so ill have a look,also found apicog Gunnars shotty, going to put itup--[[User:Smish34|Smish34]] 00:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Has this mystery gun been IDed yet?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:40, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
The movie's been out awhile now, any chance someone with the DVD could upload a screenshot or something?
It is a SIG Pro SP 2009 9x19mm, it matchs the movie and the poster
== low quality caps ==
Some of the lower quality caps will be put here until the official dvd or better quality official clips are released. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 09:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:The_expendable-ar15var.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Team members carry the Vltor / Noveske Diplomat with EOTech, flashlight, and laser sights.]]
[[Image:The_expendable-f2000.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Yang with his F2000 Tactical with Christmas's MP5K on the left.]]
[[Image:The_expendable-aa122.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Damn that thing's loud!"]]
[[Image:The_expendable-ak.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Enemy soldiers firing their AKs.]]
[[Image:The_expendable-ak2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Enemy soldiers fire their AKs as the team takes cover.]]
==Smoke Grenade==
[[Image:The_expendable-smoke.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Smoke grenade about to go off.]]
==Demolition Man==
in the promo still of sly aiming at dolph who is thretening li, doent it lookan awful lot like some of the scenes from demolition man?--[[User:Smish34|Smish34]] 01:29, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:I don't recall a single scene like that from Demolition Man but if you recall a specific part feel free to point it out. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:34, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:I think he means these two shots [[Image:DemoMan_011.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] [[Image:Expendables.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]--[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 05:05, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
yeah thats the one, thamks Funkychinaman.--[[User:Smish34|Smish34]] 15:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
:Okay, he's wearing a beret in both pics, but other than that, it's just 2 shots of the same actor holding a gun, and not even in the same situation, one he's holding it directly to someone's head, the other he's standing several feet away pointing it at someone. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 20:15, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
::Well, he said they look alike. As you pointed out, they look alike. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Well yeah, in the sense that it's the same dude holding a gun in both shots. By that reasoning, any 2 shots of Arnie holding an M16 will look alike, or any 2 shots of Chow Yun Fat holding 2 pistols, and so on. Doesn't mean End of Days looks an awful lot like Predator, does it? [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 10:15, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
::::He mentioned it, and I found it in two minutes, so obviously he wasn't he only one. It's like if Arnold made another movie where he held a shotgun with one arm while wearing a black leather jacket. Why are you getting worked up about this? The guy made an observation, that's all. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 11:17, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok, so the pistol is different and the goatee too, but in both shots, aiming one handed, tac vest over black t-shirt and black beret, i think its similar enough --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 12:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
I noticed it too and thought it was pretty badass. DKS01 you need to chill out with these comments. Let other people have an opinion. --[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]
::Blow me, I wasn't aware I was somehow preventing anyone from having an opinion. If I had that capability I'd probably use it to get Rush Limbaugh off the air, but since Rush still broadcasts, I guess I don't have that power. He stated his opinion, I stated my opinion, deal with it chief. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 20:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Geez man, lose the attitude. And don't you ever tell me to blow you. I have never seen you write anything on this site but rude and asshole comments. --[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]
::You've never seen me post anything but rude and asshole comments? Guess reading isn't something you're very good at then, cause there are other comments from me on THIS VERY PAGE where I posted about the fixing the Kimbers entry, discussed what pistol Jet Li was carrying, and agreed with some other dudes that Stallone's gun in the tunnel was the Diplomat and not an MP7. Actually, wait a sec, I think I remember you now, you're that dude who thought using the Harris technique was a "Call of Duty" homage then got mad when me and some other dudes told you it probably wasn't an homage, right? [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:24, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Yep that's me.--[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]
:I think it just stands out because it's rare for a lot of movie stars to wear anything on their head at all. Off the top of my head, I think the only movies where Arnold wears anything on his head is in the Conan movies, where's he's got that weird headband thing. Not even in Predator, where it would've made sense, did he wear a hat. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Actually he did have a hat on in the very beginning of Predator...-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 04:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, there are some particular movies where the character is well-known for wearing a hat. Indiana Jones, Crocodile Dundee, Freddy Krueger, and others.
Also, I think Arnold briefly wears a hat in the Running Man (When trying to escape.) -SasquatchJim
I'll give you Indy and Dundee, but those are also parts of costumes. I can't think of any other hat wearing Harrison Ford characters though. (And looking back, I think Arnold did wear a hat in Collateral, when he was trying to infiltrate the terrorist base.)--[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 10:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, Harrison wore a stormtrooper helment in Star Wars. Does that count LOL? But yeah, I see what you mean though; overall, costumes with hats are rare.
:For most stars, their greatest assets are their features. Why hide them with a hat? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 17:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Except in some cases...That explains why Mickey Rourke DID wear a hat. -SasquatchJim
To be honest Mickey Rourke Needed to wear a trenchcoat and a bag over his head--[[User:Smish34|Smish34]] 16:38, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Totally irrelevant but it bugged me, @DKS01 Arnie doesn't use an M16 in End of Days, is a pimped MP5.--[[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 22:13, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
While on the hat subject, the whole team wear hats in this movie both in the opening scene, and the final shootout (with the exception of stallone who loses his beret) --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 23:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't know why, but I REALLY like that Statham wore a baseball cap. It was understated and badass. -SJ
Toll Road's boonie hat never fell off, even during fights, i know from experience they come off easy if your not wearing a chin strap.
To be fair, this is sort of a "suspended-reality" movie. Take everything with a grain of salt. -SJ
Maybe he wore his boonie hat tightened on his head, as so not to lose it? And he could have straightnened the hat off-screen. [[User:T.H.M.Christensen|T.H.M.Christensen]] 17:08, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Talking of hats coming off, have you seen some of the behind the scenes footage of the Indiana Jones films, the hat was off Harrison's head more times than it was on. It would constantly be flying off. I think at one point they used double sided tape to get it to stay on a bit more. Plenty of people wear hats in films and TV shows. Look at Stargate SG1, Richard Dean Anderson is always wearing a baseball cap when they go off world and sometimes when they don't. Mel Gibson wears a baseball cap a few times in Lethal Weapon, Nick Nolte in Extreme Prejudice etc. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:16, 21 August 2011 (CDT)
==Gunner's 1911==
During the car chase Gunner uses a 1911 that looks alot like the one's used by Thomas Jane in The Punisher (2004). It was black with a silver compensator. Anybody else see it? [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]
no i noticed it i thought it was funny because Dolph Lundgren played The Punisher in the 80's--[[User:Anarchy66660|Anarchy66660]] 21:28, 24 November 2010 (UTC
Another possible punisher connection: I think the Guy riding shotgun with gunnar was one of the guys that Thomas Jane dropped in the lobby of the saint building after he made it rain money. Horace or Spoon perhaps?
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== Guns Appearing on the "Choose Your Weapon" Poster ==
Boy, Ross fires his handgun so fast that until I read about it here I thought it might have been some kind of machine pistol!
Anyway, the poster I first saw for The Expendables was the one with the chrome skull in the center surrounded by guns and knives in the shape of wings, which some have suggested is meant to evoke the Guns & Roses poster (maybe...). I'm kinda surprised that that poster wasn't used for this article (more appropriate here than the one used currently) and I was hoping to see the guns in it identified. Could anyone do just that (The original poster would appear alongside an annotated version with a list of firearms)? Here's some pictures I found:
And here someone even made a mockup using gun images from places like this site:
[http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/tutorials/how-to-create-the-expendables-winged-skull-poster-art How To Create The Expendables Winged Skull Poster Art]
:The very first section of this talk page is a listing of the weapons featured in that poster. This was the relevant info already posted above:"-Barrett M107 with SUSAT (?!) Scope -M16A1 -C8 with M203 -G36 with AG36 -No idea -Shorty Remington 870 / Masterkey -MP7 -Mk. 23 -Model 29 -Steyr M9A1 -Beretta M9 with front cocking serrations -SVI Infinity -Beretta 93R -Desert Eagle -A fuckload of knifes --yocapo32 03:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)". Someone later clarified that it's an ELCAN C79 scope not a SUSAT. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 08:30, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, Jeez, I skimmed this page way too quick looking for a mention and to be "sure" it wasn't covered, searched for the term "poster", thinking it would be included in any discussion. Sorry.
::But anyway, I still think it would be a better poster to use on the article page and think there really should be an annotated version too. And a big bag of money would be nice.
:::You got my vote. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
==Barney's Kimber - Possible Spoilers==
Is it possible that his Kimber's used double stacked magazines? I bought it at midnight, watched it, rewatched the speed firing bit at the end several times, and it seems like everytime he empties a magazine and reloads, he's firing fourteen to fifteen times. The time he fired both, he fires twenty six times and reloades, considering it'd be bad to go off with two rounds. Consistent with a double stacked .45 magazine. I couldn't see how many times the weapon cycled, but the sound was definitely fourteen shots. I'd also feel the need to point out that on several occasions, he fired only a few rounds at a time from one pistol, but it would be possible that he reloaded off screen. Especially given the speed he shows with his reloads. Movie magic, or some realism to a typical yet totally awsome, film? - Mikey
::The Kimbers he used had single-stack magazines (the armorer who blank-converted Stallone's pistols for this movie is an IMFDB administrator). You can also check the link that appears on the page. Counting the number of times the weapons are fired is a bad way to determine their magazine capacity in movies. Actors routinely fire more rounds than their weapons can hold because reloading is done between takes, off-camera. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:06, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
== Is it Just me ==
Or is something wrong with the front sight on this thing? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 10:53, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Exp010.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
No, it is just a hooded sight, indicating that it is the Chinese version of the AK, the Norinco Type 56. --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 10:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
I think (even though the somali is holding the rifle not so straight) the front sight is tilted a bit on the left --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 14:51, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
:?He's just holding the rifle itself tilted to the left. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:01, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but the sight is still a bit off... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 21:29, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
:::It's a little off center even considering he's holding the gun cocked to one side. Then again, he's a pirate with an AK. He's probably never even used the sights, so he hasn't noticed that he banged the nose of his Type 56 into the side of a boat and knocked his sights off-kilter or something. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 04:21, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
== Page correction F2000 ==
Someone has written 'An FN F2000 Tactical is used by Ross, and later by Lee, with an EO-Tech, flashlight, and laser sight during the mission to rescue hostages on the hijacked oil tanker.' The only Lee in the film is Stathams character Lee CHristmas, I assume you mean Yin Yang played by Jet LI, as shown in the photo, can someone sort this out - Captain Snikt
== Continuity error? ==
For the page, it shows shots of Jet Li's character, Yang with a P90 during the Oil Tanker scene, but then it showed another with the F2000. Did he happen to have both? or did the prop guy switched it by accident? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:13, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
::Huh. I had noticed that he started out with a F2000 (actually at first with the dim lighting in the scene, I thought all of the Expendables were carrying F2000s until I could see them better - and until Gunnar let a M576 off and blew a guy in half as a warning shot) and then didn't realize somehow that he was suddenly using a P90 in another shot. I assumed that maybe he picked up someone else's gun but... [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 04:24, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
==Colt Single Action Army==
Barney's Colt with the very short barrel could be a customized U.S. Firearms "Shopkeeper" or "Sheriff." They are somewhat uncommon, but the Sheriff is a clone of Colt's "Sheriff" SAA variant, with a 3" ejectorless barrel -- they can also be had in 2”, 3.5” and 4” -- and the Shopkeeper is the same song but with 3.5" barrel and an ejector rod. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 05:53, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
==Ceasars Pistol==
Hale Ceasar (terry crews) has a beretta 92G elite 1A as his sidearm in the final ballte as seen on this massive image http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2010_The_Expendables/2010_the_expendables_015.jpg - Captain Snikt
==F2000 in the Tanker scene==
Does anyone know why Stallone fires his F2000 left-handed in the Tanker scene? He's obviously right-handed, given that he fires all his other weapons (unless counting dual wielded Kimbers :P) right-handed - especially the Quickdraw Colt...
I always assumed he was ambidextrous; in lots of movies he plays left-handed characters. Of course, he could have just taught himself to shoot that way. Dunno. -SasquatchJim.
In the movie, he's said to have damaged his left hand severely, so it's possible he doesn't want to risk using his left to steady the front of the gun when he can't hold it properly, so he instead uses it to pull the trigger while his right hand aims. As for holding the Kimbers, I'd say during those scenes he's not worried too much about accuracy.
== Barney's (Stallone) holsters ==
Anyone know the make and model of Barney Ross' thigh rigs for his Kimbers? [[User:Thursday|Thursday]] 06:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
==Ambush scene==
Hey, just watched the movies and for the Glock 17 that is currently listed under for the ambush scene under the bridge. I believe the glock 17 is actually a G17 modified into full auto and fitted with a 33 round mag. Either that or he fired it in semi-auto really fast. I was streaming the movie so I couldn't go back and confirm it. What do you guys think? --[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 00:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
A "Glock 17" and a "G17" are the same thing with zero diffrences...and if it was modified to full auto it would still just be a Glock 17...if you put a 33rd mag into it, it is still just a Glock 17. So I dont really understand where you are getting at unless you are thinking this might be a Glock 18 or something at which point it would need a selector switch.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
yeah, I know that is all the same, and I am also positive it is not a Glock 18. What I meant to was that maybe someone should label the picture as a modified Glock 17 just in case there is someone who hasn't seen the movie. I probably didn't word it right in my first post. --[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 03:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
==Toll Road's shogun==
I noticed in the beginning sequence Toll Road has a shotgun slung on his back, maybe a Mossberg?
==Gunnar's handgun==
Just before the car chase, Gunnar has a gun while in his car. It looks like a custom 1911 with a compenstator. Anyone confirm? --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 16:57, 9 July 2011 (CDT)
== More Weapons to be ID'd ==
[[Image:Expendables Austin.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Black pistol held by Austin.]]
Looks like a Beretta 92FS --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 07:03, 11 August 2011 (CDT)
Customized 1911, looks like the ones in [[The Punisher (2004)|The Punisher]], carried by Thom Jane... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 07:03, 11 August 2011 (CDT)
:Yeah, I knew that it is an 1911 variant, I just thought that it is a specific pistol, a Kimber of something. Anyways, added it as "Custom M1911". - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 08:48, 11 August 2011 (CDT)
+ The shotgun on Toll Road's back. Possibly M500 or M590 Cruiser. I have never seen a real Mossberg so I cannot tell. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 13:10, 11 August 2011 (CDT)
The rifles The Expendables use in the final raid, are you sure they are Diplomats? They look more like PWS Diablos to me.
:Have you been playing Homefront? :P - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:55, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
I do, but thats not what i get i from.[[User:Gunner5|Gunner5]]
[[Image:PWS-MK107-556.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Primary Weapons Systems MK107 "Diablo" - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Expend 232.jpg|thumb|none|600px|It looks like a Diablo.]]
So you're suggesting the studio took delivery of 12 Vltor VIS-1s with Diplomat barrels and KX-3 flash hiders, threw them all away, then bought a bunch of guns that don't really look much like the ones in the movie and used those instead? PWS bragged the ''hell'' out of the Diablo being in ''Homefront''. You wouldn't be able to ''not'' know if they'd got a gun into a major Hollywood movie. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:57, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
[[Image:Vitor noveske.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Noveske Rifleworks Diplomat with M68 Aimpoint red dot scope and Surefire M900 weapon-light fore-grip - 5.56x45mm]]
:This is the Noveske Rifleworks Diplomat, they look somewhat similar eh? But the weapon in the cap has the Diplomat's flash-suppressor. Plus if you read the article on the main page, it says "In February 2009, ISS (Independent Studio Services) received 12 Vltor VIS-1s with Diplomat barrel assemblies, with KX-3 flash-hiders. ISS also received 24 EMod stocks from Vltor, which were intend to be used in The Expendables. They are converted to full auto." So there. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 19:10, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
== Barney "quick-firing" his SAA ==
Can you actually do that? Hold down the trigger and rapidly fire by working the hammer? - [[User: 2wingo]]
: On a single action revolver like the SAA, yes. It's not generally gonna be very accurate, though. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] ([[User talk:DKS01|talk]]) 03:30, 24 December 2012 (EST)
=Cameos=
A brief scene showcases three of the greatest movie action heroes of all time.
[[Image:Exp016.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mr. Church ([[Bruce Willis]]) offers Ross ([[Sylvester Stallone]]) a job.]]
[[Image:Exp017.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Give the job to my friend here. He loves playing in the jungle." Trench ([[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]) banters with Ross ([[Sylvester Stallone]]).]]
anyone know what the 6th barrel down is, between the silenced M4 and the MP7? Might be a shotgun of sorts, based on the barrel/handguard...also no magazine. Can pick out the grip/trigger to the right of the skull's eye.
I just thought I'd point out that the M107 does not have a SUSAT, but an ELCAN C79. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I guess I stand correct, it is a ELCAN C79, they look similar thought -_-' --yocapo32 23:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Unknown 1911
I think it's a Detonics Scoremaster, Check out the two Pictures on the 1911 section.
It's got the same trigger, and possibly the same magazine buttpad and hammer.
Look at this pic of Jet Li, the grip on his 'CQB'. Thats a Heckler & Koch 416?
Definatly a 416 look at the shape of the grip. Is Terry Crews using frag 12 rounds, as frag 12's normally come in a green casing and the spent cartridges in the image all appear to be see thu / white. this could of course just be hollywood, being hollywood - Captain Snikt
I also thing stathams 92 is most likely a 92G elite, or a ninety two based on the squared off pistol grip - captain snikt
Tango Down makes a pistol grip almost identical to that of the HK416, the BG-16 Battle Grip or so it's supposedly called. It could be one of those. I'd rather wait until we can find better shots of his gun to determine whether it's a 416 or not. Spartan198 23:34, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Cameos
Is it me or does anybody else miss hearing arnie's voice lol
I just saw Commando last week so...no I don't miss his voice Excalibur01 17:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Anyone else think Clint Eastwood shoulda had a cameo?
I gotta disagree. He was huge int he 80s of course, but not in the same way these guys were. Eastwood is on another level in many ways. My question, where is Segal? Chuck Norris? Tom Berhinger?
I agree on Clint. While he was a definite star, he was a different sort of star than these guys. As for your question about where is Seagal? Well, he WAS offered a part and turned it down. Apparently, Seagal has issues with one of the produces of The Expendables and refuses to work with him(you can catch him September in Machete though). Jean-Claude Van Damme was also offered a role and turned it down, because he "doesn't want his career going in that direction"(that direction being "up" I assume), and Kurt Russell turned a part down due to "a lack of interest in ensemble acting at this time". Wesley Snipes was going to be in it, but he wasn't allowed to leave the country due to that whole tax evasion thing, so he couldn't go down to South America or Mexico or wherever it was they filmed it. Chuck woulda fit in too, but I don't think he was offered a part. And Berrenger? Nothing against the guy, but Berrenger was pretty much third tier even in his heyday, even the average classic action fan isn't gonna bring him up when they're thinking of action stars. Not that I woulda opposed him don't get me wrong, but at the same time, I don't think his omission is exactly as noticeable as say, Seagal or Mel Gibson(I think we can all guess why he wasn't offered a part) for example. I also missed Chow Yun-Fat. Li is a badass to be sure and I'm glad he's here, but woulda been cool to see Chow going back to old school Woo-mode and packing a couple handguns as well. DKS01 12:52, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Addendum. Apparently at Comic-Con, Stallone said "I talked to Van Damme. I talked to [Steven] Segal. I even talked to Chuck Norris." He then added, "But there are certain considerations, like insanity.". Not sure if the insanity line was specifically for one of them, or all of them. DKS01 22:50, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Screw Chuck Norris bring Jack Bauer up in here. 24guns
I totally woulda dug Kiefer Sutherland getting a part. DKS01 12:52, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Jackie Chan should have been in this. Spartan198 23:36, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Nope, Jackie Chan focuses on much lighter 'comical' action fare. He would not be comfortable with such grisly violence as this does not fit with his cinema history well at all. It would not have made sense to include Jackie Chan. MoviePropMaster2008 18:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Actually Jackie Chan did a lot of serious, even dark action/drama movies before (New Police Story for example). It's just that his Hollywood movies are all action comedy and that's what North American viewers are used to.--Wildcards 17:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
In the inevitable sequel, (probably not as inevitable as I'd like to think, but I can dream, can't I?) my top choices would have to be Kiefer Sutherland, Clint Eastwood, Harrison Ford, and Steven Segal. Maybe Carl Weathers too. That's One Angry Duck 18:41, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Charles Daly 1911's - CONFIRMED AS KIMBER CUSTOMS
The pistols list as Charles Daly Customs are Kimber Customs with Bright Blue finish. But I will confirm before I change the heading.-Phoenixent 00:04, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Who in their right mind would customize a Charles Daly...I would have to hear it from the movie armor himself before i believe that one.--Spades of Columbia 15:49, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
CONFIRMED:Whoever thought they were CDs could not have been further off. Like the above, my vote went for Kimber, and NOW it is CONFIRMED--->
After this confirmation I changed the heading on the main page to reflect this. Since, I confess, I'm kinda new at editing this, I just changed the heading, wasn't sure if the details of the customization are meant to be included or not. If they are, feel free to add whatever is necessary. DKS01 02:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
I think there is a Saiga 12 being used by Hale Caesar (Terry Crews) in the clip
Holy Cow
So many action stars in one movie. This can only be good --Milkovich 15:59, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Plane
Can anyone identify the plane and the machine guns in the nose they use to take out the dock?
I would guess either .30 or .50 cal browning machine guns
Plane is a Grumman HU-16 Albatross. --Sidewinder Forge 14:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
And they are identified in 'the making of' pre-released video as 50 cals, so I assume they are AN-M2 machine guns MoviePropMaster2008 18:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Interesting Fact: In "Inferno: The making of the Expendables", which is really good, Stallone only thought of that scene with Statham on the front of the plane and them dropping gas on the soldiers on the dock during production. They were literally almost done shooting when he saw a crew member standing in the hatch area and thought, "Hey, ya know what would be cool?" I think that's awesome that a director can pull a scene like that out of his head and have the crew instantly support it.
Gunnar's M79
I saw a Clip from when the Screenshot was taken. I believe he uses a Non-Explosive round like the HK69A1 in Miami Vice.
It's possible, the Miami Vive Round is a custom made single shot (giant) shotgun round made from a 40mm.--Jackie.45Cal 23:29, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
It's not a custom round per se; it's called a M576. It loads 20 pellets of #4 shot, and the US Army developed it because the original plan was that the M79 would the grenadier's only weapon, and you can't exactly shoot someone standing right in front of you with a grenade. Well, I suppose you could, but it wouldn't be terribly practical. The M576 is also compatible with the M203, though generally what a 40mm shotgun does you can do with a Masterkey or M1014. Atypicaloracle 04:31, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Christ, those pistols look tiny.
I mean, I shouldn't be surprised that Stalone has massive hands, but still, the Beretta and the SSA look absolutely tiny in his hands. Acora 04:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Willis' Role
From what I've heard, Willis isn't just a cameo. He apparently plays an important part in the plot. At least, that's what I've heard. Acora 21:32, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
SPOILER SPOILER
I saw it today. He isn't much more than a cameo. Three minutes of screen time, and mentioned again later.
Stallone and Statham make up a sizeable portion of it, effectively being the two leads.
-SasquatchJim, 19:47 EST 13 August 2010
Just watched it
Pardon my french, but i fucking loved it!!! Arnie and bruce sadly only do cameos, but its worth it for a few jokes.
But onto the guns. Stallone (barny ross) is packing a pair of Kimber M1911's (which sometimes he fires so fast it nears automatic) one on each thigh. He does some perfect and frankly beautiful speedloads with them too. On the same belt he also caries the custom single action army on a quickdraw rig to his rear.
Stathams (lee christmas) main sidearm, seen mostly in the final action peice is a Beretta 92G Elite 1A which he uses in conjunction with throwing knives and if im being honest kinda steals the show.
The other real star of the movie is Terry Crews AA12, given its own into speech he even shows us the Frag 12 mini rocket out of its casing and explains to the audience just how cool the frag 12 really is, and the scenes he uses it truely do it justice, people are torn apart in a gorey wargasm.
Oh and Dolph Lundgren (Gunnar) briefly threatens Stone Cold with a shorty shotgun with a folding frong grip, much like Tubb's from miami vice, possibly a franchi but i cant be sure.
Ok there's my 50 cents, but it really did kick ass--Captain Snikt 23:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, Captain. The scene where he first uses the AA-12 is EPIC. I'm not normally a fan of the AA-12, but I had to respect it here. Also, many of Statham's fistfight scenes were awesome.
As a side note, I believe the shotgun was a Serbu Super Shorty. I could easily be wrong, though.
I think Yin was using a Steyr TMP in the back of Barney's truck. Again, don't quote me on that.
-SasquatchJim, 21:22 EST, 13 August 2010 (Not a member, but I've been told to sign my posts.)
Statham's fight scenes were cool. He messed that guy in the blue polo up with that kick to the head. --humanzie3
Suberu shorty looks like the gun, but i think it was a brugger and thompet MP9 not the TMP due to the folding stock, and its always good practise to sign your posts --Captain Snikt 00:35, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh, sorry. I've never heard of the MP9. BTW, am I signing my posts right, since I'm not a user? -SasquatchJim 21:55 EST 13 August 2010
Brugger and Thommet bought out the stery tmp design an released ith with a folding stock as the MP-9, and yeah, thats fine, you dont need the date/time stamp but its always welcome --Captain Snikt 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
It was badass, just a great fun to watch action movie not loaded with preachy messages or other bullshit. They said it would be like an awesome 80s action movie, and delivered. BTW, I dont think there charles daly 1911s. Im betting their kimbers like Pheonixint said. BTW, remember when i think it was steve austin took off stallone's vest (which looked like a blackhawk strike) and said that without the kevlar hed be ripped apart or something to that effect, that the vest had no kevlar, it was just load bearing equipment, no panels or plates.
No crap...where is the evidence that these are Charles daly? Like i said, who would buy a cheap 1911 just to customize it all badass like?--Spades of Columbia 20:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
And pheonixint is in the industry, his info is usually real solid, while i dont see one shred of evidence its a bargain bin 1911.
There's only one reason I can think as to why they'd be CD 1911s: The directors wanted to save money bu using inexpensive 1911s and customizing them. E.G. Using a $600 1911 instead of a $3000 one. I don't know, though.-SasquatchJim
The Knives
Does anyone know the knives that they used in the movie? I saw some links to the ones that Sly and Doph uses, but I want to know what are the ones that Jason Statham uses. He had the kunai throwing knives and the folding knife in that one scene. I really want that knife now. Excalibur01 21:23, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
In the end credits, it says knives provided by Gil Hibben. Tool's throwing knives in the end were definitely Hibbens. --funkychinaman 21:05, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
The first knife Tool drew from his boot and threw, was a Cold Steel Espada. Gunner313
What gun is stallone using in the tunnels?
I couldn't see it good enough to ID but it looks like a MP7. Anyone else got an opinion?--FIVETWOSEVEN 01:20, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure Stallone was using one of the kitted out M4A1 Carbine things, but he was holding it with one hand by the foregrip instead of at the ready because he was using it mainly for the flashlight. - Gunmaster45
Pretty much. I have no idea what part of that thing looks like an MP7. If you look at the main page, the Vltor rifles were all what the team was using Excalibur01 03:27, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I know he was using a Vltor later but when he was alone in the tunnels. I don't know just had a feeling it was.--FIVETWOSEVEN 14:38, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I think the bad dark lighting of the movie confused you Excalibur01 14:39, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
He was holding the vltor by the surefire light foregrip, definatly - Captain snikt
Yep, I just saw the movie again, and as the other guys said, he's carrying the Vltor by the foregrip, there's no MP7 in sight. DKS01 22:01, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Its a noveske, vltor makes the stock and rail system.
I was looking at the front of the gun and never looked at the back so it looked like a machine pistol of somesort so I assumed a MP7. --FIVETWOSEVEN 16:46, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Someone needs to add these guns.--FIVETWOSEVEN 04:24, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Yin Yang's pistol?
Anyone recall what pistol Jet Li's character was carrying at the end battle? There was so much going on during that assault that I was just sitting and enjoying the carnage, without paying as much attention to weapon details as I normally would. And now that I'm sitting here trying to recall, my mind is blanking on me. Anyone able to refresh my memory? DKS01 02:32, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
He had a pistol? There was too much for me to take in at once!--FIVETWOSEVEN 04:24, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, he most noticeably using it when he was clearing the soldiers out of one of those tents or whatever they were. DKS01 05:55, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh yeah now I remember it, I believe it was a Beretta. I could be wrong though.--FIVETWOSEVEN 15:00, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Its definaty a 'box' shaped pistol, I just watched it again, looked like a p99 to me, but the only times we see it he is moving, there are no close up either --Captain Snikt 22:27, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Now that you mention it, I vaguely recall it looking like a P99 as well. DKS01 22:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
i say it looked like a small glock, maybe a 19, not sure
I haven't seen the movie, but on a poster at my theatre, Jet Li has a SIG Pro in his holster, don't know if he has one in the movie though.--Pølaris 05:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, that could be it, actually. Fairly sure it's not a Glock, but it could definitely be a SIG Pro. Thanks for the info man. DKS01 22:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
yep that is defintly the gun he used in the film, the pics of the slide in the film during that scene look the same
i remember a pistol, he sort of takes cover behind something and then kills the guys and shows a full shot of the gun in his hand kind of pointing down. im going to see it again tommorow so ill have a look,also found apicog Gunnars shotty, going to put itup--Smish34 00:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Has this mystery gun been IDed yet?--FIVETWOSEVEN 03:40, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
The movie's been out awhile now, any chance someone with the DVD could upload a screenshot or something?
It is a SIG Pro SP 2009 9x19mm, it matchs the movie and the poster
low quality caps
Some of the lower quality caps will be put here until the official dvd or better quality official clips are released. --Ben41 09:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Team members carry the Vltor / Noveske Diplomat with EOTech, flashlight, and laser sights.Yang with his F2000 Tactical with Christmas's MP5K on the left."Damn that thing's loud!"
Enemy soldiers firing their AKs.Enemy soldiers fire their AKs as the team takes cover.
Smoke Grenade
Smoke grenade about to go off.
Demolition Man
in the promo still of sly aiming at dolph who is thretening li, doent it lookan awful lot like some of the scenes from demolition man?--Smish34 01:29, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't recall a single scene like that from Demolition Man but if you recall a specific part feel free to point it out. DKS01 04:34, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
yeah thats the one, thamks Funkychinaman.--Smish34 15:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Okay, he's wearing a beret in both pics, but other than that, it's just 2 shots of the same actor holding a gun, and not even in the same situation, one he's holding it directly to someone's head, the other he's standing several feet away pointing it at someone. DKS01 20:15, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, he said they look alike. As you pointed out, they look alike. --funkychinaman 20:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Well yeah, in the sense that it's the same dude holding a gun in both shots. By that reasoning, any 2 shots of Arnie holding an M16 will look alike, or any 2 shots of Chow Yun Fat holding 2 pistols, and so on. Doesn't mean End of Days looks an awful lot like Predator, does it? DKS01 10:15, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
He mentioned it, and I found it in two minutes, so obviously he wasn't he only one. It's like if Arnold made another movie where he held a shotgun with one arm while wearing a black leather jacket. Why are you getting worked up about this? The guy made an observation, that's all. --funkychinaman 11:17, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok, so the pistol is different and the goatee too, but in both shots, aiming one handed, tac vest over black t-shirt and black beret, i think its similar enough --Captain Snikt 12:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
I noticed it too and thought it was pretty badass. DKS01 you need to chill out with these comments. Let other people have an opinion. --humanzie3
Blow me, I wasn't aware I was somehow preventing anyone from having an opinion. If I had that capability I'd probably use it to get Rush Limbaugh off the air, but since Rush still broadcasts, I guess I don't have that power. He stated his opinion, I stated my opinion, deal with it chief. DKS01 20:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Geez man, lose the attitude. And don't you ever tell me to blow you. I have never seen you write anything on this site but rude and asshole comments. --humanzie3
You've never seen me post anything but rude and asshole comments? Guess reading isn't something you're very good at then, cause there are other comments from me on THIS VERY PAGE where I posted about the fixing the Kimbers entry, discussed what pistol Jet Li was carrying, and agreed with some other dudes that Stallone's gun in the tunnel was the Diplomat and not an MP7. Actually, wait a sec, I think I remember you now, you're that dude who thought using the Harris technique was a "Call of Duty" homage then got mad when me and some other dudes told you it probably wasn't an homage, right? DKS01 04:24, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I think it just stands out because it's rare for a lot of movie stars to wear anything on their head at all. Off the top of my head, I think the only movies where Arnold wears anything on his head is in the Conan movies, where's he's got that weird headband thing. Not even in Predator, where it would've made sense, did he wear a hat. --funkychinaman 23:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Actually he did have a hat on in the very beginning of Predator...-Ranger01 04:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, there are some particular movies where the character is well-known for wearing a hat. Indiana Jones, Crocodile Dundee, Freddy Krueger, and others.
Also, I think Arnold briefly wears a hat in the Running Man (When trying to escape.) -SasquatchJim
I'll give you Indy and Dundee, but those are also parts of costumes. I can't think of any other hat wearing Harrison Ford characters though. (And looking back, I think Arnold did wear a hat in Collateral, when he was trying to infiltrate the terrorist base.)--funkychinaman 10:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, Harrison wore a stormtrooper helment in Star Wars. Does that count LOL? But yeah, I see what you mean though; overall, costumes with hats are rare.
For most stars, their greatest assets are their features. Why hide them with a hat? --funkychinaman 17:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Except in some cases...That explains why Mickey Rourke DID wear a hat. -SasquatchJim
To be honest Mickey Rourke Needed to wear a trenchcoat and a bag over his head--Smish34 16:38, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Totally irrelevant but it bugged me, @DKS01 Arnie doesn't use an M16 in End of Days, is a pimped MP5.--Commando552 22:13, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
While on the hat subject, the whole team wear hats in this movie both in the opening scene, and the final shootout (with the exception of stallone who loses his beret) --Captain Snikt 23:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't know why, but I REALLY like that Statham wore a baseball cap. It was understated and badass. -SJ
Toll Road's boonie hat never fell off, even during fights, i know from experience they come off easy if your not wearing a chin strap.
To be fair, this is sort of a "suspended-reality" movie. Take everything with a grain of salt. -SJ
Maybe he wore his boonie hat tightened on his head, as so not to lose it? And he could have straightnened the hat off-screen. T.H.M.Christensen 17:08, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Talking of hats coming off, have you seen some of the behind the scenes footage of the Indiana Jones films, the hat was off Harrison's head more times than it was on. It would constantly be flying off. I think at one point they used double sided tape to get it to stay on a bit more. Plenty of people wear hats in films and TV shows. Look at Stargate SG1, Richard Dean Anderson is always wearing a baseball cap when they go off world and sometimes when they don't. Mel Gibson wears a baseball cap a few times in Lethal Weapon, Nick Nolte in Extreme Prejudice etc. --cool-breeze 14:16, 21 August 2011 (CDT)
Gunner's 1911
During the car chase Gunner uses a 1911 that looks alot like the one's used by Thomas Jane in The Punisher (2004). It was black with a silver compensator. Anybody else see it? humanzie3
no i noticed it i thought it was funny because Dolph Lundgren played The Punisher in the 80's--Anarchy66660 21:28, 24 November 2010 (UTC
Another possible punisher connection: I think the Guy riding shotgun with gunnar was one of the guys that Thomas Jane dropped in the lobby of the saint building after he made it rain money. Horace or Spoon perhaps?
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Guns Appearing on the "Choose Your Weapon" Poster
Boy, Ross fires his handgun so fast that until I read about it here I thought it might have been some kind of machine pistol!
Anyway, the poster I first saw for The Expendables was the one with the chrome skull in the center surrounded by guns and knives in the shape of wings, which some have suggested is meant to evoke the Guns & Roses poster (maybe...). I'm kinda surprised that that poster wasn't used for this article (more appropriate here than the one used currently) and I was hoping to see the guns in it identified. Could anyone do just that (The original poster would appear alongside an annotated version with a list of firearms)? Here's some pictures I found:
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The very first section of this talk page is a listing of the weapons featured in that poster. This was the relevant info already posted above:"-Barrett M107 with SUSAT (?!) Scope -M16A1 -C8 with M203 -G36 with AG36 -No idea -Shorty Remington 870 / Masterkey -MP7 -Mk. 23 -Model 29 -Steyr M9A1 -Beretta M9 with front cocking serrations -SVI Infinity -Beretta 93R -Desert Eagle -A fuckload of knifes --yocapo32 03:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)". Someone later clarified that it's an ELCAN C79 scope not a SUSAT. DKS01 08:30, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Oh, Jeez, I skimmed this page way too quick looking for a mention and to be "sure" it wasn't covered, searched for the term "poster", thinking it would be included in any discussion. Sorry.
But anyway, I still think it would be a better poster to use on the article page and think there really should be an annotated version too. And a big bag of money would be nice.
You got my vote. DKS01 13:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Barney's Kimber - Possible Spoilers
Is it possible that his Kimber's used double stacked magazines? I bought it at midnight, watched it, rewatched the speed firing bit at the end several times, and it seems like everytime he empties a magazine and reloads, he's firing fourteen to fifteen times. The time he fired both, he fires twenty six times and reloades, considering it'd be bad to go off with two rounds. Consistent with a double stacked .45 magazine. I couldn't see how many times the weapon cycled, but the sound was definitely fourteen shots. I'd also feel the need to point out that on several occasions, he fired only a few rounds at a time from one pistol, but it would be possible that he reloaded off screen. Especially given the speed he shows with his reloads. Movie magic, or some realism to a typical yet totally awsome, film? - Mikey
The Kimbers he used had single-stack magazines (the armorer who blank-converted Stallone's pistols for this movie is an IMFDB administrator). You can also check the link that appears on the page. Counting the number of times the weapons are fired is a bad way to determine their magazine capacity in movies. Actors routinely fire more rounds than their weapons can hold because reloading is done between takes, off-camera. -MT2008 15:06, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Is it Just me
Or is something wrong with the front sight on this thing? --Charon68 10:53, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
No, it is just a hooded sight, indicating that it is the Chinese version of the AK, the Norinco Type 56. --ZeoRanger5 10:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
I think (even though the somali is holding the rifle not so straight) the front sight is tilted a bit on the left --Warejaws 14:51, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
?He's just holding the rifle itself tilted to the left. -MT2008 15:01, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but the sight is still a bit off... --Warejaws 21:29, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
It's a little off center even considering he's holding the gun cocked to one side. Then again, he's a pirate with an AK. He's probably never even used the sights, so he hasn't noticed that he banged the nose of his Type 56 into the side of a boat and knocked his sights off-kilter or something. Atypicaloracle 04:21, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Page correction F2000
Someone has written 'An FN F2000 Tactical is used by Ross, and later by Lee, with an EO-Tech, flashlight, and laser sight during the mission to rescue hostages on the hijacked oil tanker.' The only Lee in the film is Stathams character Lee CHristmas, I assume you mean Yin Yang played by Jet LI, as shown in the photo, can someone sort this out - Captain Snikt
Continuity error?
For the page, it shows shots of Jet Li's character, Yang with a P90 during the Oil Tanker scene, but then it showed another with the F2000. Did he happen to have both? or did the prop guy switched it by accident? Excalibur01 16:13, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Huh. I had noticed that he started out with a F2000 (actually at first with the dim lighting in the scene, I thought all of the Expendables were carrying F2000s until I could see them better - and until Gunnar let a M576 off and blew a guy in half as a warning shot) and then didn't realize somehow that he was suddenly using a P90 in another shot. I assumed that maybe he picked up someone else's gun but... Atypicaloracle 04:24, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Colt Single Action Army
Barney's Colt with the very short barrel could be a customized U.S. Firearms "Shopkeeper" or "Sheriff." They are somewhat uncommon, but the Sheriff is a clone of Colt's "Sheriff" SAA variant, with a 3" ejectorless barrel -- they can also be had in 2”, 3.5” and 4” -- and the Shopkeeper is the same song but with 3.5" barrel and an ejector rod. Atypicaloracle 05:53, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone know why Stallone fires his F2000 left-handed in the Tanker scene? He's obviously right-handed, given that he fires all his other weapons (unless counting dual wielded Kimbers :P) right-handed - especially the Quickdraw Colt...
I always assumed he was ambidextrous; in lots of movies he plays left-handed characters. Of course, he could have just taught himself to shoot that way. Dunno. -SasquatchJim.
In the movie, he's said to have damaged his left hand severely, so it's possible he doesn't want to risk using his left to steady the front of the gun when he can't hold it properly, so he instead uses it to pull the trigger while his right hand aims. As for holding the Kimbers, I'd say during those scenes he's not worried too much about accuracy.
Barney's (Stallone) holsters
Anyone know the make and model of Barney Ross' thigh rigs for his Kimbers? Thursday 06:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Ambush scene
Hey, just watched the movies and for the Glock 17 that is currently listed under for the ambush scene under the bridge. I believe the glock 17 is actually a G17 modified into full auto and fitted with a 33 round mag. Either that or he fired it in semi-auto really fast. I was streaming the movie so I couldn't go back and confirm it. What do you guys think? --ThePotShot 00:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
A "Glock 17" and a "G17" are the same thing with zero diffrences...and if it was modified to full auto it would still just be a Glock 17...if you put a 33rd mag into it, it is still just a Glock 17. So I dont really understand where you are getting at unless you are thinking this might be a Glock 18 or something at which point it would need a selector switch.--Spades of Columbia 01:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
yeah, I know that is all the same, and I am also positive it is not a Glock 18. What I meant to was that maybe someone should label the picture as a modified Glock 17 just in case there is someone who hasn't seen the movie. I probably didn't word it right in my first post. --ThePotShot 03:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Toll Road's shogun
I noticed in the beginning sequence Toll Road has a shotgun slung on his back, maybe a Mossberg?
Gunnar's handgun
Just before the car chase, Gunnar has a gun while in his car. It looks like a custom 1911 with a compenstator. Anyone confirm? --Taurus96 16:57, 9 July 2011 (CDT)
Customized 1911, looks like the ones in The Punisher, carried by Thom Jane... --Warejaws 07:03, 11 August 2011 (CDT)
Yeah, I knew that it is an 1911 variant, I just thought that it is a specific pistol, a Kimber of something. Anyways, added it as "Custom M1911". - bozitojugg3rn4ut 08:48, 11 August 2011 (CDT)
+ The shotgun on Toll Road's back. Possibly M500 or M590 Cruiser. I have never seen a real Mossberg so I cannot tell. - bozitojugg3rn4ut 13:10, 11 August 2011 (CDT)
So you're suggesting the studio took delivery of 12 Vltor VIS-1s with Diplomat barrels and KX-3 flash hiders, threw them all away, then bought a bunch of guns that don't really look much like the ones in the movie and used those instead? PWS bragged the hell out of the Diablo being in Homefront. You wouldn't be able to not know if they'd got a gun into a major Hollywood movie. Evil Tim 18:57, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
This is the Noveske Rifleworks Diplomat, they look somewhat similar eh? But the weapon in the cap has the Diplomat's flash-suppressor. Plus if you read the article on the main page, it says "In February 2009, ISS (Independent Studio Services) received 12 Vltor VIS-1s with Diplomat barrel assemblies, with KX-3 flash-hiders. ISS also received 24 EMod stocks from Vltor, which were intend to be used in The Expendables. They are converted to full auto." So there. :) - Mr. Wolf 19:10, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
Barney "quick-firing" his SAA
Can you actually do that? Hold down the trigger and rapidly fire by working the hammer? - User: 2wingo
On a single action revolver like the SAA, yes. It's not generally gonna be very accurate, though. DKS01 (talk) 03:30, 24 December 2012 (EST)
Cameos
A brief scene showcases three of the greatest movie action heroes of all time.
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