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== ''[[Police Python 357]]'' Ten Years ''before'' ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' And a French movie to boot.== | == ''[[Police Python 357]]'' Ten Years ''before'' ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' And a French movie to boot.== | ||
Got myself over to Utube and watched a compilation of the movie. There is a pretty well done armored car robbery sequence. It's nicely done when you realize it was filmed 35 years ago. There is a stunt when the hero [[Yves Montand]] does a combat roll while being shot at. A middle aged French actor did it ten years before [[Mel Gibson]] in ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' (1987)! LOL. I wonder how many people know that? I didn't until today. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:01, 30 May 2010 (UTC) | Got myself over to Utube and watched a compilation of the movie. There is a pretty well done armored car robbery sequence. It's nicely done when you realize it was filmed 35 years ago. There is a stunt when the hero [[Yves Montand]] does a combat roll while being shot at. A middle aged French actor did it ten years before [[Mel Gibson]] in ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' (1987)! LOL. I wonder how many people know that? I didn't until today. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:01, 30 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
=='Old Timer' gun== | |||
Riggs states that "A lot of old timers carry those" with "Those" meaning revolvers. This film was made in 1987 when alot of police forces still carried revolvers as standard issue, so is this comment really appropriate? | |||
- It's meant to be a remark about Murtaugh's age more than anything about guns. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:31, 7 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
::I realize it was a jab at Murtaugh but the joke still seems to imply that only old timers carry revolvers, yet at the time this movie was made even young rookie cops were being issued revolvers. | |||
I think Riggs was basically saying that Murtaugh is the old cop and he is the new generation with the comment. He could have said something like "Cops are going to be using my pistol soon though so you best get used to automatics over your revolver", but that would have been a rubbish piece of dialogue. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:18, 14 December 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Flinching== | |||
I've noticed that Mel Gibson flinches quite a lot whilst firing, especially during the target practice scene. This doesn't really fit the character of a trigger happy cop who once shot a guy 1000 yards away. What's quite ironic is that Danny Glover never flinched in that bit. [[Special:Contributions/88.111.25.228|88.111.25.228]] 16:30, 1 April 2011 (CDT) | |||
:Yeah, you're right. He not only blinks every time, but flinches his entire head. | |||
::Whenever I shoot at one of those stupid indoor ranges I can't help but flinch too. I think they designed the walls on either side to bounce the gas directly into your eyes so the wandering know-it-alls running the place can tell you you're flinching.--[[User:Acepeacemaker|Acepeacemaker]] 23:11, 5 January 2012 (CST) | |||
==Heckler & Koch P7== | |||
Anyone notice the H&K P7 or variant, all covered in dust and sitting next to the grenades, while the General is burning in the flipped car? | |||
--[[User:Viktorgorchev|viktorgorchev]] 0:15, 21 August 2011 (GMT+1) | |||
== Smith & Wesson 5906 == | |||
This movie was made in 1987, the 5906 did not start production until two years later in 1989, so there is no possible way that the 5906 was the gun Murtaugh used, unless the movie's armorer used time travel. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 15:02, 13 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
:I am the one who made that edit without checking my facts. I apologize, and I do agree that the Model 59 or 459 is a likely stand-in, because it looks like a S&W Automatic, and it is surely not a 1911. | |||
== Propguns at the firing range? == | |||
This is probably not worth spending the time including in the main article. This is just a trivia. | |||
I think I've noticed something during the firing-range scene. The first part of that scene shows Riggs and Murtaugh discussing the Hunsaker case while firing their guns. When Riggs fires his Beretta the gun doesn't cycle. There is barely any recoil and I counted only one brass-ejection. And even that ejection happend half a second '''after''' the gun fired. Murtaughs gun too seems to have no recoil. To be honest I cant even see if the cylinder is spinning eventhough he is using double-action. (by the way, Murtaugh fires his gun only one time during the scene but he ejects six spent bullets anyways).. | |||
The second part of the same scene however, when first Murtaugh and then Riggs shows off their skills, they seem to be using real weapons. (Riggs doing the smiley face and Murtaugh the center head shot). | |||
[[User:Dudster32|Dudster32]] 07:58, 7 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
:If by real you mean live firing then you are completely wrong. No way would they have had live rounds on set as it's pretty much illegal anyway. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 12:13, 7 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
::No not real as in live bullets, I mean real as in real blank-firing weapons as opposed to prop-guns firing flame or whatever they do :P [[User:Dudster32|Dudster32]] 13:13, 8 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
:::Well they were firing the blank adapted guns from what I could see the whole time. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:28, 8 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
::::Thats where we disagree. I cant see the guns recycling or providing any recoil or brass-ejection during the first part of the scene, where as the second part of the scene the guns do. [[User:Dudster32|Dudster32]] 15:57, 8 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
:::::I just watched the scene on Netflix. It certainly looks like they're firing blank firing guns. Don't blank firing weapons have less recoil? And the last shot that Riggs takes, you can actually see him flinch. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:34, 8 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
== Dummy Grenades? == | |||
All the film images of M26 grenades look as though they're cast iron training grenades, at least when compared to the photo of the real thing. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] 23:43 6 October 2012 (EST) | |||
== How does Riggs have a PSG-1? == | |||
Was it ever explained in the movie how someone living (and obviously not living all that well) on a detective's salary could afford a 10 to 15 thousand dollar sniper rifle? - [[User: 2wingo]] | |||
What kind of sniper rifles did the LAPD SWAT use back then? (Noahrussell007) | |||
: The Remington 700P. - [[User: 2wingo]] | |||
Because he lives in a trailer on the beach and saves money on rent/mortgage? --[[User:Max Deployment|Max Deployment]] ([[User talk:Max Deployment|talk]]) 16:24, 21 December 2013 (EST) | |||
:I always assumed he got it out of evidence or something. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 12:25, 26 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
::Agree, I never assumed (even in the 80s while watching this) that he owned the snazzy rifle, just like Murtaugh didn't go down to Walmart to get a grenade. They spent the night looking at maps, making plans, and Riggs called some friends (or raided the evidence locker, or whatever) to get the gear they needed. It's not important to the movie how they did that. Worked for me they were able to pull this off that well. [[User:Shoobe01|Shoobe01]] ([[User talk:Shoobe01|talk]]) 21:39, 4 February 2020 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 02:39, 5 February 2020
16s
I think that M16 is actually an MGC replica. You can see the fake foward assist.--Oliveira 20:20, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Police Python 357 Ten Years before Lethal Weapon And a French movie to boot.
Got myself over to Utube and watched a compilation of the movie. There is a pretty well done armored car robbery sequence. It's nicely done when you realize it was filmed 35 years ago. There is a stunt when the hero Yves Montand does a combat roll while being shot at. A middle aged French actor did it ten years before Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon (1987)! LOL. I wonder how many people know that? I didn't until today. --Jcordell 02:01, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
'Old Timer' gun
Riggs states that "A lot of old timers carry those" with "Those" meaning revolvers. This film was made in 1987 when alot of police forces still carried revolvers as standard issue, so is this comment really appropriate?
- It's meant to be a remark about Murtaugh's age more than anything about guns. StanTheMan 17:31, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- I realize it was a jab at Murtaugh but the joke still seems to imply that only old timers carry revolvers, yet at the time this movie was made even young rookie cops were being issued revolvers.
I think Riggs was basically saying that Murtaugh is the old cop and he is the new generation with the comment. He could have said something like "Cops are going to be using my pistol soon though so you best get used to automatics over your revolver", but that would have been a rubbish piece of dialogue. --cool-breeze 15:18, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Flinching
I've noticed that Mel Gibson flinches quite a lot whilst firing, especially during the target practice scene. This doesn't really fit the character of a trigger happy cop who once shot a guy 1000 yards away. What's quite ironic is that Danny Glover never flinched in that bit. 88.111.25.228 16:30, 1 April 2011 (CDT)
- Yeah, you're right. He not only blinks every time, but flinches his entire head.
- Whenever I shoot at one of those stupid indoor ranges I can't help but flinch too. I think they designed the walls on either side to bounce the gas directly into your eyes so the wandering know-it-alls running the place can tell you you're flinching.--Acepeacemaker 23:11, 5 January 2012 (CST)
Heckler & Koch P7
Anyone notice the H&K P7 or variant, all covered in dust and sitting next to the grenades, while the General is burning in the flipped car? --viktorgorchev 0:15, 21 August 2011 (GMT+1)
Smith & Wesson 5906
This movie was made in 1987, the 5906 did not start production until two years later in 1989, so there is no possible way that the 5906 was the gun Murtaugh used, unless the movie's armorer used time travel. --SmithandWesson36 15:02, 13 April 2012 (CDT)
- I am the one who made that edit without checking my facts. I apologize, and I do agree that the Model 59 or 459 is a likely stand-in, because it looks like a S&W Automatic, and it is surely not a 1911.
Propguns at the firing range?
This is probably not worth spending the time including in the main article. This is just a trivia. I think I've noticed something during the firing-range scene. The first part of that scene shows Riggs and Murtaugh discussing the Hunsaker case while firing their guns. When Riggs fires his Beretta the gun doesn't cycle. There is barely any recoil and I counted only one brass-ejection. And even that ejection happend half a second after the gun fired. Murtaughs gun too seems to have no recoil. To be honest I cant even see if the cylinder is spinning eventhough he is using double-action. (by the way, Murtaugh fires his gun only one time during the scene but he ejects six spent bullets anyways).. The second part of the same scene however, when first Murtaugh and then Riggs shows off their skills, they seem to be using real weapons. (Riggs doing the smiley face and Murtaugh the center head shot). Dudster32 07:58, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
- If by real you mean live firing then you are completely wrong. No way would they have had live rounds on set as it's pretty much illegal anyway. --cool-breeze 12:13, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
- No not real as in live bullets, I mean real as in real blank-firing weapons as opposed to prop-guns firing flame or whatever they do :P Dudster32 13:13, 8 August 2012 (CDT)
- Well they were firing the blank adapted guns from what I could see the whole time. --cool-breeze 14:28, 8 August 2012 (CDT)
- Thats where we disagree. I cant see the guns recycling or providing any recoil or brass-ejection during the first part of the scene, where as the second part of the scene the guns do. Dudster32 15:57, 8 August 2012 (CDT)
- I just watched the scene on Netflix. It certainly looks like they're firing blank firing guns. Don't blank firing weapons have less recoil? And the last shot that Riggs takes, you can actually see him flinch. --Funkychinaman 16:34, 8 August 2012 (CDT)
- Thats where we disagree. I cant see the guns recycling or providing any recoil or brass-ejection during the first part of the scene, where as the second part of the scene the guns do. Dudster32 15:57, 8 August 2012 (CDT)
- Well they were firing the blank adapted guns from what I could see the whole time. --cool-breeze 14:28, 8 August 2012 (CDT)
- No not real as in live bullets, I mean real as in real blank-firing weapons as opposed to prop-guns firing flame or whatever they do :P Dudster32 13:13, 8 August 2012 (CDT)
Dummy Grenades?
All the film images of M26 grenades look as though they're cast iron training grenades, at least when compared to the photo of the real thing. --Maxman 23:43 6 October 2012 (EST)
How does Riggs have a PSG-1?
Was it ever explained in the movie how someone living (and obviously not living all that well) on a detective's salary could afford a 10 to 15 thousand dollar sniper rifle? - User: 2wingo
What kind of sniper rifles did the LAPD SWAT use back then? (Noahrussell007)
- The Remington 700P. - User: 2wingo
Because he lives in a trailer on the beach and saves money on rent/mortgage? --Max Deployment (talk) 16:24, 21 December 2013 (EST)
- I always assumed he got it out of evidence or something. --RedRobinAlpha (talk) 12:25, 26 September 2016 (EDT)
- Agree, I never assumed (even in the 80s while watching this) that he owned the snazzy rifle, just like Murtaugh didn't go down to Walmart to get a grenade. They spent the night looking at maps, making plans, and Riggs called some friends (or raided the evidence locker, or whatever) to get the gear they needed. It's not important to the movie how they did that. Worked for me they were able to pull this off that well. Shoobe01 (talk) 21:39, 4 February 2020 (EST)