Talk:The Green Berets: Difference between revisions
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(New page: ==Modified AR-7s in Viet Cong Assault== During the VC/NVA Assault on the basecamp, two VC being killed on the wire are carried the modified wooden stock and pistol grip AR*7's used in 'The...)
During the VC/NVA Assault on the basecamp, two VC being killed on the wire are carried the modified wooden stock and pistol grip AR*7's used in 'The Ambushers' and in a still of Maxwell Smart[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 08:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
During the VC/NVA Assault on the basecamp, two VC being killed on the wire are carried the modified wooden stock and pistol grip [[Armalite AR-7]]'s used in 'The Ambushers' and in a still of Maxwell Smart[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 08:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I can't seem to find an image of this model anywhere online except for a ''Get Smart'' fansite. At least two gun were used in the film. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 03:31, 26 January 2013 (EST)
*Shades of ''Red Dawn'' the T62!!![[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 03:14, 1 February 2013 (EST)
[[File:T22cdw.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
::Are there no surviving examples? Because I can't find any actual images of the weapon itself even when searching for the actual name. (And I have Soviet paratroopers dropping in my neighborhood, I'd want something bigger than a .22, pistol grip or not.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 03:19, 1 February 2013 (EST)
*If I found that perhaps someone else might have one in their collection they can photo for the database. Over here the commies parachute in because parking is too expensive. I reckon that delayed action firing AR-7 in ''Murderer's Row'' was probably a Hy Hunter Bolomauser.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 05:53, 1 February 2013 (EST)
==T26 Tanker Garand Rifle ==
The rifle seen in the Mike Force assault is a T26 Tanker Garand Rifle. I have seen them in the inventory with the flash hider removed and two holes drilled in the bottom of the trigger housing to mount a dummy magazine. It was the armories way of having a weapon look like an M14 at that time. --[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 17:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:Well, sure looks like a BM-59 to me, but you know what you're talking about so I'll bow to your knowledge on that one. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]
::Actually I have heard of something like that when it came to the movie adaptation if "A Rumor of War" by Phillip Caputo. If I remember correctly due to the controversial nature of the movie the producers were unable to acquire the M-14s they needed for the movie so some M-1 Garands (possibly the "Tanker" version were used in their place. It is noticeable in scenes where they are loading their weapons that they are not real M-14s but modified M-1s (of some sort). --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
== Unknown Pistol? ==
[[Image:TGB 2.jpg|none|thumb|800px|Unknown Pistol on board]]
Sorry but that is not a Makarov> Am not sure what it is but not that. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:31, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't think it's a Colt 1903 Hammerless either - due to the grips extending all the way up the frame to the slide. My first thought was a MAB Model D but there are features which would seem to rule that out as well (position of safety catch, depth of frame in front of trigger guard). IKD
:I think that the unknown pistol in the green berets movie is a Browning Hi-Power because of the frame and slide of the pistol reminds me of a Browning Hi-Power. BNat93
::There is no hammer on this pistol. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 02:49, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
Another weapon on the board is a semi-automatic pistol (probably SACM M1935A).
The shape of the grip resemble Llama pistols. Can it be Llama (models III, XI and some others has the similar shape of grip) with missing, lost or removed hammer? [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 01:32, 29 January 2013 (EST)
:This one has a heel-mounted mag release. I think Llama have thumb mag releases. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 09:46, 29 January 2013 (EST)
::The state of Idaho has a firearms museum. There are undisplayed specimens in the collections (which I've seen and actually handled) that were brought back from South Vietnam in the 60's. They were made by VC armorers in jungle workshops. Crude and dangerous they were designed to get the user another better gun. Since the movie received the support of the DOD maybe that pistol is one of those jungle copies?--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 09:58, 9 April 2014 (EDT)
::: It was recently surmised that this was MAS 1935. Does it look like this?
[[File:MAS1935.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
::::The slide looks different, and the frame mounted safety is in another place. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 06:30, 26 September 2015 (EDT)
* I believe copies of various weapons were locally made in various parts of Asia that were not 100% copies but were fully operational and cheaper to make[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 19:20, 26 September 2015 (EDT)
== Suppressed Ruger MK II ==
I remember during the scene in which the Green Berets are on the mission to kidnap the NVA general, during the night when the team approachs the plantation Colonel Cai uses a silenced pistol to take out some of the guards, I believe it is a Ruger MK.2--[[User:Jamesmac1801|Jamesmac1801]] ([[User talk:Jamesmac1801|talk]]) 22:08, 30 January 2013 (EST)--[[User:Jamesmac1801|Jamesmac1801]] ([[User talk:Jamesmac1801|talk]]) 22:08, 30 January 2013 (EST)
:Once again, please sign your posts. And is here anything else so we don't have to keep going back and forth? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 00:37, 30 January 2013 (EST)
:Personally, I think it's a [[Colt Woodsman]]. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 02:59, 30 January 2013 (EST)
M1911A1s on display next to captured weapons display in the beginning and seen holsterd,and MK.2 Grenades on several soldiers suspenders, noteably on SFC McGee's. Jamesmac1801--[[User:Jamesmac1801|Jamesmac1801]] ([[User talk:Jamesmac1801|talk]]) 22:08, 30 January 2013 (EST)([[User talk:Jamesmac1801|talk]]) 22:05, 30 January 2013 (EST)
:Do you actually have a copy of the film? If so, it'll be easier for you to just take the screencaps. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 22:09, 30 January 2013 (EST)
[[Image:TGB 32.jpg|none|thumb|300px|Green Beret of the "Mike Force" carrying a [[M79 grenade launcher|M79 Grenade Launcher]].]]
== Actor ID ==
Given the body type and the shape of his face, I don't think this is Aldo Ray. Any ideas? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 07:51, 6 March 2018 (EST)
[[Image:Gb12.JPG|600px|thumb|none|MSG Muldoon ([[Aldo Ray]]) oversees the camp's defenses. Note the M1919 in the upper right corner.]]
During the VC/NVA Assault on the basecamp, two VC being killed on the wire are carried the modified wooden stock and pistol grip Armalite AR-7's used in 'The Ambushers' and in a still of Maxwell SmartFoofbun 08:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I can't seem to find an image of this model anywhere online except for a Get Smart fansite. At least two gun were used in the film. --Funkychinaman (talk) 03:31, 26 January 2013 (EST)
Shades of Red Dawn the T62!!!Foofbun (talk) 03:14, 1 February 2013 (EST)
Are there no surviving examples? Because I can't find any actual images of the weapon itself even when searching for the actual name. (And I have Soviet paratroopers dropping in my neighborhood, I'd want something bigger than a .22, pistol grip or not.) --Funkychinaman (talk) 03:19, 1 February 2013 (EST)
If I found that perhaps someone else might have one in their collection they can photo for the database. Over here the commies parachute in because parking is too expensive. I reckon that delayed action firing AR-7 in Murderer's Row was probably a Hy Hunter Bolomauser.Foofbun (talk) 05:53, 1 February 2013 (EST)
T26 Tanker Garand Rifle
The rifle seen in the Mike Force assault is a T26 Tanker Garand Rifle. I have seen them in the inventory with the flash hider removed and two holes drilled in the bottom of the trigger housing to mount a dummy magazine. It was the armories way of having a weapon look like an M14 at that time. --phoenixent 17:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, sure looks like a BM-59 to me, but you know what you're talking about so I'll bow to your knowledge on that one. - Nyles
Actually I have heard of something like that when it came to the movie adaptation if "A Rumor of War" by Phillip Caputo. If I remember correctly due to the controversial nature of the movie the producers were unable to acquire the M-14s they needed for the movie so some M-1 Garands (possibly the "Tanker" version were used in their place. It is noticeable in scenes where they are loading their weapons that they are not real M-14s but modified M-1s (of some sort). --Charon68 21:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry but that is not a Makarov> Am not sure what it is but not that. --Charon68 01:31, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't think it's a Colt 1903 Hammerless either - due to the grips extending all the way up the frame to the slide. My first thought was a MAB Model D but there are features which would seem to rule that out as well (position of safety catch, depth of frame in front of trigger guard). IKD
I think that the unknown pistol in the green berets movie is a Browning Hi-Power because of the frame and slide of the pistol reminds me of a Browning Hi-Power. BNat93
There is no hammer on this pistol. --Ben41 (talk) 02:49, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
Another weapon on the board is a semi-automatic pistol (probably SACM M1935A).
The shape of the grip resemble Llama pistols. Can it be Llama (models III, XI and some others has the similar shape of grip) with missing, lost or removed hammer? Greg-Z (talk) 01:32, 29 January 2013 (EST)
This one has a heel-mounted mag release. I think Llama have thumb mag releases. --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:46, 29 January 2013 (EST)
The state of Idaho has a firearms museum. There are undisplayed specimens in the collections (which I've seen and actually handled) that were brought back from South Vietnam in the 60's. They were made by VC armorers in jungle workshops. Crude and dangerous they were designed to get the user another better gun. Since the movie received the support of the DOD maybe that pistol is one of those jungle copies?--Jcordell (talk) 09:58, 9 April 2014 (EDT)
It was recently surmised that this was MAS 1935. Does it look like this?
The slide looks different, and the frame mounted safety is in another place. Greg-Z (talk) 06:30, 26 September 2015 (EDT)
I believe copies of various weapons were locally made in various parts of Asia that were not 100% copies but were fully operational and cheaper to makeFoofbun (talk) 19:20, 26 September 2015 (EDT)
Suppressed Ruger MK II
I remember during the scene in which the Green Berets are on the mission to kidnap the NVA general, during the night when the team approachs the plantation Colonel Cai uses a silenced pistol to take out some of the guards, I believe it is a Ruger MK.2--Jamesmac1801 (talk) 22:08, 30 January 2013 (EST)--Jamesmac1801 (talk) 22:08, 30 January 2013 (EST)
Once again, please sign your posts. And is here anything else so we don't have to keep going back and forth? --Funkychinaman (talk) 00:37, 30 January 2013 (EST)
M1911A1s on display next to captured weapons display in the beginning and seen holsterd,and MK.2 Grenades on several soldiers suspenders, noteably on SFC McGee's. Jamesmac1801--Jamesmac1801 (talk) 22:08, 30 January 2013 (EST)(talk) 22:05, 30 January 2013 (EST)
Do you actually have a copy of the film? If so, it'll be easier for you to just take the screencaps. --Funkychinaman (talk) 22:09, 30 January 2013 (EST)
