Talk:Street Kings: Difference between revisions
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Hello everyone. New account but I've been looking at these pages every time I watch a new movie. Looking at this page, I noticed that you have Ludlow's 1911 is listed in the 1911 page as a sw1911. I noticed on the big picture that says similar to pistol in film that it says series 80 and Cylinder & Slide on the right side. I've ordered a couple of parts from Cylinder & Slide and I know they mostly use Springfield 1911s. Makes me wonder whether this is a C&S custom pistol, and whether it is a series 80 colt, or a sw1911. -Jan
Hello everyone. New account but I've been looking at these pages every time I watch a new movie. Looking at this page, I noticed that you have Ludlow's 1911 is listed in the 1911 page as a sw1911. I noticed on the big picture that says similar to pistol in film that it says series 80 and Cylinder & Slide on the right side. I've ordered a couple of parts from Cylinder & Slide and I know they mostly use Springfield 1911s. Makes me wonder whether this is a C&S custom pistol, and whether it is a series 80 colt, or a sw1911. -Jan
- The snubby that Ludlow uses in the convenience store is actually a Charter Arms Off Duty.
:It's definitely not a SW1911. The cocking serrations on the S&W are slanted, whereas the serrations on this gun are vertical. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 21:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- The snubby that Ludlow uses in the convenience store is actually a Charter Arms Off Duty.
- Good Call, I fixed it. -GM45
- Good Call, I fixed it. -GM45
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In the Benelli M3 section theres a pic of Demille pointing what is labeled as a Benelli M3. I think the shape of the pump and groove in the yop of the reciever is more indicative of a remington 870. Also the lack of a charging handle for semi-auto action rules out the M3.
In the Benelli M3 section theres a pic of Demille pointing what is labeled as a Benelli M3. I think the shape of the pump and groove in the yop of the reciever is more indicative of a remington 870. Also the lack of a charging handle for semi-auto action rules out the M3.
yeah demille's shotgun looked like a 870 and so did santos's , and also the shotgun that diskant used in 40's town ..... dalemac37
== Mossberg 590 ==
== Mossberg 590 ==
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== M16A2 ==
== M16A2 ==
Based on the shape of the carry handle, I'd actually say they like more like M16A4s, the carry handles look removable. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Or AR15A4s. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 05:45, 2 December 2014 (EST)
==Charter Arms Off Duty==
There's no mention of which side the bullet hits, also the scapula (This is just how I read it, not sure if it's what he meant though) is essentially the shoulder. So what the coroner (Not the ballistics expert) said, is indeed correct. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 10:10, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Street-Kings-Washington-Scapula.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Screen cap of the GSW.]]
[[Image:Posterior.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Probable area of GSW, and scapula]]
== A few things ==
1. As previously said, the lack of a charging handle on the receiver of Demille's shotgun leads me to believe that it isn't a Benelli semi-auto, the sights make me say Remington 870.
2. Again as said previously scapula is the proper name for shoulder blade, so the dialogue in the movie is correct.
3. I can't help but laugh at all the screencaps of Common with his eyes closed.
== "Manstopper" bullets? ==
Detective Tom Ludlow (Keanu Reeves) tells Detective Paul Diskant (Chris Evans) to different ammo, what kind of bullets are they?
"Swap your rounds out."
"We don't want the coroner digging department-issue ammo out of these assholes. Use the gloves."
"Jesus. These are some serious manstoppers."
''I think they are 9mm JHP +P+P''
== Missing Gun ==
When Ludlow goes to Wander's house to confront him, He tries pulling his 1911 on Wander who knocks it from his hands.
Wander then seems to draw a small nickel revolver which they both fight over, and again gets knocked to the floor.
''Wander's revolver is a S&W model 66. I've added it to the page''[[User:Rafa|Rafa]]
== Ludlow's 1911 ==
i believe if you look closely when he picks it up off of the floor at the commanders house you will see that it very very very closely resembles a Springfield 1911 Operator
:The Operator series comes with rail frames. His gun does not have a rail. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:25, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Could be a TRP. There are Springfield TRP 1911s without rails.
:The TRP has front slide serrations which Ludlow's does not. If it was a Springfield it would the GI model that has been customized, since the Mil-Spec has slanted serrations. Does anybody have it on blu-ray? I think in this shot below you might be able to tell what it is. If the gun has good roll marks. But from the looks of it, it seems to be plain. :(--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:SKSW1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ludlow checks his custom 1911 after a long night of drinking.]]
The 1911 most resembles a colt special combat government. If you look close enough you can tell that all of the features of the gun are the same as the special combat government. Everything from the aluminum 3 hole trigger, beaver-tail grip safety, adjustable sights, only rear cocking grooves, and the custom magwell on the bottom show that its the most reasonable guess.
Does LA permit that gun as an off duty side arm or can you just have what ever you want? [[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]
::Well, thanks to the movie's armorer, [[User:TerribleMorgan|Terence Morgan]], we now have a picture of the 1911 from ''[[Street Kings]]'':
::[[File:IMG 0444.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Colt MK IV Series 80 - .45 The weapon pictured here is the actual screen-used handgun used from the film ''[[Street Kings]]'' and also the TV series ''[[Dark Blue (TV Series)|Dark Blue]]'' and ''[[Chase]]''.]]
::As it turns out, our initial guess was right on the money: We speculated that it was a modified Series 80, and indeed it is. It also turns out that this same gun was also carried by [[Dylan McDermott]] in ''[[Dark Blue (TV Series)]]'' and [[Cole Hauser]] in ''[[Chase]]''. Enjoy this awesome picture, and be sure to thank Terence Morgan! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:22, 13 April 2011 (CDT)
== Demilles Off Duty Weapon ==
I just caught this rewatching the film. When Captain Wander is telling Demille and Clady (Klady?) to go back and write up a report, briefly, you can see a gun holstered. It appears to be a Full Frame Glock, maybe a 17, but its only seen for a second, and i dont think its seen again after. Im willing to think, with the clothes hes wearing and the time of day, its his off duty sidearm, like Ludlows Series 80.
The best shot i can see of it, hes got a Glock 17, his badge, and a magazine holster, partially hidden by his shirt.
In one of the captions it mentions that the safety is off. I was wondering if anyone could confirm this: I was told a number of years ago by a LEO that they were trained to carry their Beretta's Safety off, round in the chamber since it was a DA/SA gun, that it came about when a number of officers had been shot over the years when they drew on a suspect and forgot the safety was on, and ended up having to flick the safety off and then bring the gun back to ready.
I was curious if this was true? Any LEO's chime in here?
:Usually cops carry their sidearms fully-loaded, safety-off, with a round in the chamber. That way, all they have to do is pull it out and pull the trigger. Most police shootings happen in just a few seconds, so getting rounds downrange as quick as you can is paramount. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 05:46, 2 December 2014 (EST)
=="Historic 1911's?"==
LOL what? I fail to see how any kimber or any other currently made 1911 is 'historic' that line is just nonsense. [[User:Furious Oyster|Furious Oyster]] ([[User talk:Furious Oyster|talk]]) 03:28, 19 November 2014 (EST) [[FuriousOyster]]
== Unknown Shotgun ==
:Based on the shape of the carry handle, I'd actually say they like more like M16A4s, the carry handles look removable. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
Was just rewatching this for the upteenth time and noticed something I hadn't seen before. At the beginning of the movie when Ludlow is cleaning his 4506 you seen a shotgun with a heat shield propped up against the wall next to his desk. The weapon is never used but I am thinking it is a nickel plated Ithaca Model 37. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 21:47, 2 December 2014 (EST)
Latest revision as of 00:36, 21 January 2015
I see you changed Ludlow's 1911 from a S&W to a RRA. It is neither. The cocking serrations on Ludlow's pistol are 90 degrees, while the serrations on all RRA pistols are angled at 11 degrees. The frontstrap on Ludlow's pistol is a standard cut, while the RRA cuts their's very high and at a 90 degree angle. Ludlow's 1911 has a pinned front sight; RRA uses a dovetail, and RRA uses a standard length serrated slidestop; not a flat extended stop. Also note the magazine funnel, ambidextrous safety, stainless (not blued) barrel - none of which are on the RRA.
I looked for the make of this pistol extensively, and came to the conclusion that it is a franken pistol built from a standard blued Colt; probably a series 70. There are lots of competition add ons in stainless steel, and in black; none of which would come standard on a blued gun that lacks a high cut frontstrap.
Yeah, I knew it was likely wrong, I'd been looking through my Standard Catalog of firearms and none of the RRA pistols fit the bill. I think it is likely just a custom Series 70 or Series 80. Thanks for the info.
Hello everyone. New account but I've been looking at these pages every time I watch a new movie. Looking at this page, I noticed that you have Ludlow's 1911 is listed in the 1911 page as a sw1911. I noticed on the big picture that says similar to pistol in film that it says series 80 and Cylinder & Slide on the right side. I've ordered a couple of parts from Cylinder & Slide and I know they mostly use Springfield 1911s. Makes me wonder whether this is a C&S custom pistol, and whether it is a series 80 colt, or a sw1911. -Jan
It's definitely not a SW1911. The cocking serrations on the S&W are slanted, whereas the serrations on this gun are vertical. -Gunman69 21:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- The snubby that Ludlow uses in the convenience store is actually a Charter Arms Off Duty.
- Good Call, I fixed it. -GM45
In the Benelli M3 section theres a pic of Demille pointing what is labeled as a Benelli M3. I think the shape of the pump and groove in the yop of the reciever is more indicative of a remington 870. Also the lack of a charging handle for semi-auto action rules out the M3.
yeah demille's shotgun looked like a 870 and so did santos's , and also the shotgun that diskant used in 40's town ..... dalemac37
Mossberg 590
I'm starting to think this is a 500 with a heat-shield. I looks like it has a standard mag tube, a 590 has an extended. Am I wrong? -Gunmaster45
Not Necessarily, MPM has two pictures that show the differences between a 590 and a 500, While I cannot see this picture clearly, It definitely looks more like a 590.
By standard, I mean only the six shot tube. Since the barrel is clearly extending past the mag tube by a lot, I'm assuming it is just a 500. - Gunmaster45
It's definitely a 500 for the reasons above. 590s always have extended mag tubes, and this gun clearly has a standard. -Gunman69 21:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
M16A2
Based on the shape of the carry handle, I'd actually say they like more like M16A4s, the carry handles look removable. - Gunmaster45
Or AR15A4s. Laqueesha (talk) 05:45, 2 December 2014 (EST)
Charter Arms Off Duty
There's no mention of which side the bullet hits, also the scapula (This is just how I read it, not sure if it's what he meant though) is essentially the shoulder. So what the coroner (Not the ballistics expert) said, is indeed correct. --Crazycrankle 10:10, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
1. As previously said, the lack of a charging handle on the receiver of Demille's shotgun leads me to believe that it isn't a Benelli semi-auto, the sights make me say Remington 870.
2. Again as said previously scapula is the proper name for shoulder blade, so the dialogue in the movie is correct.
3. I can't help but laugh at all the screencaps of Common with his eyes closed.
"Manstopper" bullets?
Detective Tom Ludlow (Keanu Reeves) tells Detective Paul Diskant (Chris Evans) to different ammo, what kind of bullets are they?
"Swap your rounds out."
"We don't want the coroner digging department-issue ammo out of these assholes. Use the gloves."
"Jesus. These are some serious manstoppers."
I think they are 9mm JHP +P+P
Missing Gun
When Ludlow goes to Wander's house to confront him, He tries pulling his 1911 on Wander who knocks it from his hands.
Wander then seems to draw a small nickel revolver which they both fight over, and again gets knocked to the floor.
Wander's revolver is a S&W model 66. I've added it to the pageRafa
Ludlow's 1911
i believe if you look closely when he picks it up off of the floor at the commanders house you will see that it very very very closely resembles a Springfield 1911 Operator
The Operator series comes with rail frames. His gun does not have a rail. -MT2008 15:25, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Could be a TRP. There are Springfield TRP 1911s without rails.
The TRP has front slide serrations which Ludlow's does not. If it was a Springfield it would the GI model that has been customized, since the Mil-Spec has slanted serrations. Does anybody have it on blu-ray? I think in this shot below you might be able to tell what it is. If the gun has good roll marks. But from the looks of it, it seems to be plain. :(--Predator20 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
The 1911 most resembles a colt special combat government. If you look close enough you can tell that all of the features of the gun are the same as the special combat government. Everything from the aluminum 3 hole trigger, beaver-tail grip safety, adjustable sights, only rear cocking grooves, and the custom magwell on the bottom show that its the most reasonable guess.
Does LA permit that gun as an off duty side arm or can you just have what ever you want? simmons 8492
Well, thanks to the movie's armorer, Terence Morgan, we now have a picture of the 1911 from Street Kings:
As it turns out, our initial guess was right on the money: We speculated that it was a modified Series 80, and indeed it is. It also turns out that this same gun was also carried by Dylan McDermott in Dark Blue (TV Series) and Cole Hauser in Chase. Enjoy this awesome picture, and be sure to thank Terence Morgan! -MT2008 18:22, 13 April 2011 (CDT)
Demilles Off Duty Weapon
I just caught this rewatching the film. When Captain Wander is telling Demille and Clady (Klady?) to go back and write up a report, briefly, you can see a gun holstered. It appears to be a Full Frame Glock, maybe a 17, but its only seen for a second, and i dont think its seen again after. Im willing to think, with the clothes hes wearing and the time of day, its his off duty sidearm, like Ludlows Series 80.
The best shot i can see of it, hes got a Glock 17, his badge, and a magazine holster, partially hidden by his shirt.
In one of the captions it mentions that the safety is off. I was wondering if anyone could confirm this: I was told a number of years ago by a LEO that they were trained to carry their Beretta's Safety off, round in the chamber since it was a DA/SA gun, that it came about when a number of officers had been shot over the years when they drew on a suspect and forgot the safety was on, and ended up having to flick the safety off and then bring the gun back to ready.
I was curious if this was true? Any LEO's chime in here?
Usually cops carry their sidearms fully-loaded, safety-off, with a round in the chamber. That way, all they have to do is pull it out and pull the trigger. Most police shootings happen in just a few seconds, so getting rounds downrange as quick as you can is paramount. Laqueesha (talk) 05:46, 2 December 2014 (EST)
"Historic 1911's?"
LOL what? I fail to see how any kimber or any other currently made 1911 is 'historic' that line is just nonsense. Furious Oyster (talk) 03:28, 19 November 2014 (EST) FuriousOyster
Unknown Shotgun
Was just rewatching this for the upteenth time and noticed something I hadn't seen before. At the beginning of the movie when Ludlow is cleaning his 4506 you seen a shotgun with a heat shield propped up against the wall next to his desk. The weapon is never used but I am thinking it is a nickel plated Ithaca Model 37. --Charon68 (talk) 21:47, 2 December 2014 (EST)
