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[[Image:Extraction2-05.JPG|thumb|400px|none|Nik Khan ([[Golshifteh Farahani]]) can be seen with a holstered Glock 17 with threaded barrel and Trijicon RMR.]] | [[Image:Extraction2-05.JPG|thumb|400px|none|Nik Khan ([[Golshifteh Farahani]]) can be seen with a holstered Glock 17 with threaded barrel and Trijicon RMR.]] | ||
[[File:Extraction02-06.JPG|thumb|400px|none|A slung M240 machine gun aroound a henchman's neck.]] | [[File:Extraction02-06.JPG|thumb|400px|none|A slung M240 machine gun aroound a henchman's neck.]] | ||
[[Image:Extraction2-02-1.JPG|thumb|400px|none|The [[Mk 46 Mod 0]] SAW is visible in this BTS image | [[Image:Extraction2-02-1.JPG|thumb|400px|none|The [[Mk 46 Mod 0]] SAW is visible in this BTS image.]] | ||
== Agency Arms Glock used by Tyler Rake == | == Agency Arms Glock used by Tyler Rake == | ||
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:::::When a page is marked as incomplete, I wouldn't take the posting as gospel. Also: The number of rounds fired onscreen is a bad way to tell the difference, since (as you can imagine) it is common for Hollywood to not show reloads, implying an exaggerated capacity (especially for automatic weapons). Visually, one way to tell a G21 from any of the normal full-sized Glocks (G17, G22, etc.) is that it has a wider slide, but uses the same rear sight. This visual difference can be obvious in some films. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 12:10, 23 June 2023 (UTC) | :::::When a page is marked as incomplete, I wouldn't take the posting as gospel. Also: The number of rounds fired onscreen is a bad way to tell the difference, since (as you can imagine) it is common for Hollywood to not show reloads, implying an exaggerated capacity (especially for automatic weapons). Visually, one way to tell a G21 from any of the normal full-sized Glocks (G17, G22, etc.) is that it has a wider slide, but uses the same rear sight. This visual difference can be obvious in some films. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 12:10, 23 June 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::: Great points MT2008! . I also noticed that the "serial#", on the Glock barrel in photo (for extraction 2 )starts AFN , from what I can tell AFN is associated with second gen Glock 21 . (Though I think the frame at least would be gen 3 from the looks. ). Thank you again. - jenglock | |||
:::Speaking of that Glock, ISS posted yesterday another image showing screen-used Glock 21 pistols. They are mentioned as 4th generation Glocks, and they indeed have the Gen 4's enlarged magazine release. However, when the Glock is taken by Sandro in the film, there is a closeup in our article showing a narrower guide rod face as seen on Gen 3 models. Perhaps different models were used in the film? Is there any change of getting a screencap showing details of the Glock in another scene? --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 18:00, 24 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::Yes, I saw the pics of the Glock 21s, and also (now) the Glock 19. As for Generation: Agency Arms Glocks use their own proprietary custom-made slide and barrel assemblies, and (I assume) their own unique serial numbers. Their slide assemblies seem to use the older-style single-stage captive assembly guide rods found on Gen3s, rather than the dual-stage found on Gen4s and Gen5s, regardless of what frame generation is provided by the customer. I don't think that going by Glock serial numbers, or guide rod face, makes sense when we're talking about an Agency Arms custom Glock. I can ask ISS to confirm, but as far as I know, all of the G21s were Gen4s that Agency Arms built for the production. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 20:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::Ah, that makes sense. While you're at it, could you ask them what generation Yaz's SIG MPX is? I believe it's a Gen 1 (albeit fitted with an M-LOK handguard), though I'd like to make sure. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 22:59, 24 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: Very good points. However, it does appear that Agency Arms main work is milling work on OEM slides. As far as Stock created G21 slide goes, doesn't appear they have hit public market. The Glock gen 3 variants have a smaller guide rod because they are a single captive spring which is why the smaller end. Gen 4 Glocks have a larger dual recoil spring, hence the larger front end of slide. (Guide rods and springs assembly are not switchable between the models gen 3 and 4 because of this). So while the guide rod in pic does appear to be the smaller variant (single caption rod) of the gen 3 Glock 21, it is of course optional that Agency Arms created a new slide variant for the Gen 4 21, just for the movie, that is not yet available to the public as a solo piece to purchase. Most of their work is by mail in of customers pre existing OEM firearms. Certain things can be changed of course, but the different between gen 3 and 4 Glocks guide rods and recoil springs is not one of them due to larger cavity of the gen 4. So perhaps a completely built slide. (Not stock based). The serial number thing is also a point of consideration, as the barrel itself doesn't appear to have any Agency markings. So possibly an OEM barrel. And while round count in some films is not reasonable to go by. In the new wave of action films, where stunt men are creating the movie, and armorer positions are taken very seriously (in films like this, where the creators know their audience is knowledgeable and watching). It is very likely they will try to stick to a realistic adaptation of at least the rounds contained in a firearm. It's seen in several current films to be authentic in that way. That pointed out, I do hope that Agency Arms makes these slide variants available to the public soon. I own a Glock 17 gen 3, and a Glock 21 gen 4 .. And while I don't have a favorite between the two (different application for different situations, their tools after all). I would love to get a slide for the Glock 21 gen 4, like the one shown. ::: Best Regards y'all - JenGlock94 | |||
== Arsenal SLR-106CR in S.W.A.T. == | |||
Is it possible that this Zenitco Arsenal SLR-106CR was also used in [[S.W.A.T. - Season 5|Season 5]] and [[S.W.A.T. - Season 6|Season 6]] of ''S.W.A.T.''? I would rather believe that it was an Arsenal AK than really an AK-105. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 19:01, 27 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah, it does appear to be the case. ISS was involved with both the movie and the TV series. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 22:24, 27 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
==Unusual Austrian sniper rifle continuity error - From Remington 700 AXAICS or Accuracy International AXMC to Remington Model 700 AICS== | |||
[[File:G22A2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|G22A2 - .300 Winchester Magnum]] | |||
[[Image:AI AWP.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Accuracy International AWP - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | |||
[[File:Ex24K 31.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Austrian police sniper is seen with a [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare Police]], rechambering the rifle in a continuity error after firing the G22A2.]] | |||
Rewatched movie twice and thrice now and definitely saw two kinds of sniper rifles wielded by the same Austrian police sniper in the helicopter responding to the Vienna attacks. Not sure if it’s Remington 700 AXAICS or a Accuracy International AXMC but it definitely features a Keymod forearm, a muzzle device and was tan coloured, then changes to the black Remington AICS upon rechambering and then back again. - [[User:MrJDK9412|MrJDK9412]] ([[User talk:MrJDK9412|talk]]) 11:22 AEST, 03 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:Just to point out, the AXMC and G22A2 are different weapons. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 15:38, 13 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
Ultimate94ninja, was there a SIG Sauer MCX Patrol Assault Rifle used in the movie, because I’m kinda getting the feeling that there is an image for it, but no one has had the time to upload it yet.--[[User:DJBrimstorm|DJBrimstorm]] ([[User talk:DJBrimstorm|talk]]) 15:49, 13 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 15:49, 13 October 2023
AR-15 to AR-10 style rifle and back
Just watched the Extraction sequel and noticed Rake was using some kind or AR-10 type rifle at the apartment suite safe house in Austria after losing his DDM4V7 during the prison. Near the end Rake switches back to 5.56 AR but in a shorter barrel, possibly a Block II Mk 18 or a DDMk18. - MrJDK9412 (talk 02:27, 18 June 2023 (AEST)
BTS Images
Agency Arms Glock used by Tyler Rake
Do we have any confirmation that Tyler Rakes Agency Arms Glock is indeed a Glock 21? Have seen other takes that it's a Glock 17.
- Can’t solidly confirm but it maybe the barrel gives it away? It looks like 9mm (G17) but sources say it’s a G21. Confirm source then finalise edit. - MrJDK9412 (talk 16:48, 22 June 2023 (AEST)
- Thank you MrJDK9421 . I thought same about barrel. (Appears to be closer to 9mm, than .45 acp, but images can be tricky) Very interested to know. Original image (thumb nail) posted reads G17 , as well as Silencer shop. run down of weapons used.. Have not found link or source that claims G21 yet. But am interested to find those.(could be) - jenglock94
- Take a look at the IG post again - ISS confirmed in a comment response that it is indeed a G21. They say that the Director asked for a G21 because Chris Hemsworth has such huge hands that they were afraid a G17 would look too small. Also: Even before ISS made the comment publicly, I had asked them in DMs, and they told me the same, which is why I changed the page in the first place. -MT2008 (talk) 23:27, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Aww , thank you for the clarification MT2008! Was confused by some other postings of it being possibly the 17 . (Though I did watch the movie again, and noticed that a couple times Rake reloads after 12 or so rounds, which does fit the 21 13+1 capacity) I appreciate you providing clarity. Makes me wonder now about the Glock from first film, if it's a 17. (The bigger hands thing etc.) Either way cheers and thanks- - jenglock
- When a page is marked as incomplete, I wouldn't take the posting as gospel. Also: The number of rounds fired onscreen is a bad way to tell the difference, since (as you can imagine) it is common for Hollywood to not show reloads, implying an exaggerated capacity (especially for automatic weapons). Visually, one way to tell a G21 from any of the normal full-sized Glocks (G17, G22, etc.) is that it has a wider slide, but uses the same rear sight. This visual difference can be obvious in some films. -MT2008 (talk) 12:10, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Great points MT2008! . I also noticed that the "serial#", on the Glock barrel in photo (for extraction 2 )starts AFN , from what I can tell AFN is associated with second gen Glock 21 . (Though I think the frame at least would be gen 3 from the looks. ). Thank you again. - jenglock
- Speaking of that Glock, ISS posted yesterday another image showing screen-used Glock 21 pistols. They are mentioned as 4th generation Glocks, and they indeed have the Gen 4's enlarged magazine release. However, when the Glock is taken by Sandro in the film, there is a closeup in our article showing a narrower guide rod face as seen on Gen 3 models. Perhaps different models were used in the film? Is there any change of getting a screencap showing details of the Glock in another scene? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 18:00, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw the pics of the Glock 21s, and also (now) the Glock 19. As for Generation: Agency Arms Glocks use their own proprietary custom-made slide and barrel assemblies, and (I assume) their own unique serial numbers. Their slide assemblies seem to use the older-style single-stage captive assembly guide rods found on Gen3s, rather than the dual-stage found on Gen4s and Gen5s, regardless of what frame generation is provided by the customer. I don't think that going by Glock serial numbers, or guide rod face, makes sense when we're talking about an Agency Arms custom Glock. I can ask ISS to confirm, but as far as I know, all of the G21s were Gen4s that Agency Arms built for the production. -MT2008 (talk) 20:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes sense. While you're at it, could you ask them what generation Yaz's SIG MPX is? I believe it's a Gen 1 (albeit fitted with an M-LOK handguard), though I'd like to make sure. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 22:59, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Very good points. However, it does appear that Agency Arms main work is milling work on OEM slides. As far as Stock created G21 slide goes, doesn't appear they have hit public market. The Glock gen 3 variants have a smaller guide rod because they are a single captive spring which is why the smaller end. Gen 4 Glocks have a larger dual recoil spring, hence the larger front end of slide. (Guide rods and springs assembly are not switchable between the models gen 3 and 4 because of this). So while the guide rod in pic does appear to be the smaller variant (single caption rod) of the gen 3 Glock 21, it is of course optional that Agency Arms created a new slide variant for the Gen 4 21, just for the movie, that is not yet available to the public as a solo piece to purchase. Most of their work is by mail in of customers pre existing OEM firearms. Certain things can be changed of course, but the different between gen 3 and 4 Glocks guide rods and recoil springs is not one of them due to larger cavity of the gen 4. So perhaps a completely built slide. (Not stock based). The serial number thing is also a point of consideration, as the barrel itself doesn't appear to have any Agency markings. So possibly an OEM barrel. And while round count in some films is not reasonable to go by. In the new wave of action films, where stunt men are creating the movie, and armorer positions are taken very seriously (in films like this, where the creators know their audience is knowledgeable and watching). It is very likely they will try to stick to a realistic adaptation of at least the rounds contained in a firearm. It's seen in several current films to be authentic in that way. That pointed out, I do hope that Agency Arms makes these slide variants available to the public soon. I own a Glock 17 gen 3, and a Glock 21 gen 4 .. And while I don't have a favorite between the two (different application for different situations, their tools after all). I would love to get a slide for the Glock 21 gen 4, like the one shown. ::: Best Regards y'all - JenGlock94
Arsenal SLR-106CR in S.W.A.T.
Is it possible that this Zenitco Arsenal SLR-106CR was also used in Season 5 and Season 6 of S.W.A.T.? I would rather believe that it was an Arsenal AK than really an AK-105. Pustelga7 (talk) 19:01, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, it does appear to be the case. ISS was involved with both the movie and the TV series. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 22:24, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
Unusual Austrian sniper rifle continuity error - From Remington 700 AXAICS or Accuracy International AXMC to Remington Model 700 AICS
Rewatched movie twice and thrice now and definitely saw two kinds of sniper rifles wielded by the same Austrian police sniper in the helicopter responding to the Vienna attacks. Not sure if it’s Remington 700 AXAICS or a Accuracy International AXMC but it definitely features a Keymod forearm, a muzzle device and was tan coloured, then changes to the black Remington AICS upon rechambering and then back again. - MrJDK9412 (talk) 11:22 AEST, 03 July 2023 (UTC)
- Just to point out, the AXMC and G22A2 are different weapons. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 15:38, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Ultimate94ninja, was there a SIG Sauer MCX Patrol Assault Rifle used in the movie, because I’m kinda getting the feeling that there is an image for it, but no one has had the time to upload it yet.--DJBrimstorm (talk) 15:49, 13 October 2023 (UTC)