IMFDB talk:Test Template Page: Difference between revisions

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The New Template

I think it should be like this:

The Uzi Submachine gun has appeared in the following:'

Film

The new template as created by PhoenixEnt

The layouts below are the type being used at this time on several pages. It will be the standard layout for now. The Note spacing has been increased. -Phoenixent

All layouts now 950 width so once info is put in the columns it will all look the same size.-Phoenixent

Film

Title	Actor	Character	Notation	Date
King of New York	Laurence Fishburne	Jimmy Jump	Satin Nickel	1990

Television

Show Title / Episode	Actor	Character	Notation	Air Date
Stargate Atlantis	Joe Flanigan	Lt. Col. John Sheppard		2004 - 2009

Anime

Film Title	Character	Date
El Cazador de la Bruja	Nadie	2007 -
Black Lagoon	Several Characters	2006
Kai Miyagusuku	Blood+	2005 - 2006

Sample #1

Film Title	Character	Date
El Cazador de la Bruja	Nadie	2007 -

Black Lagoon	Several Characters	2006

Blood+	Kai Miyagusuku	2005 - 2006

Sample #2

Film Title	Character	Date
El Cazador de la Bruja	Nadie	2007 -
Black Lagoon	Several Characters	2006
Blood+	Kai Miyagusuku	2005 - 2006

Sample #3

Film Title	Character	Date
El Cazador de la Bruja	Nadie	2007 -
Black Lagoon	Several Characters	2006
Blood+	Kai Miyagusuku	2005 - 2006

Video Games

Title	Referred As	Release Date
Call of Duty: World at War		2008
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots	Can be unlocked via password	2008
Combat Arms		2008

I prefer sample #1. #1 looks really professional and organized.-Oliveira 15:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks that is one for #1 and one for #2. -Phoenixent

Sorting

Part of the reason I like the idea of tables is that I think it will encourage us to SORT movies on gun/actor pages, which is a much better and more organized way of doing things. I think we should arrange all tables by the date of the movie/TV show/video game/whatever, and then by title. Though maybe titles would be simpler, but what do you guys think? -MT2008 02:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I would sort by date as you can see when the weapon came in to use and on the actors page the weapons used over their career from beginning to end. The many thing is to get to a standard as soon as possible so we don't have pages done then have to redo them. -Phoenixent

Narrowing Down

As I've made clear, I really like the box column style template (sample #2), so my vote of course goes to that. You have to fill in every column with something though or else the columns have holes in them that look bad. So if an actor is unknown put "Unknown" in and if there are no notes, put "None" in that column. I think the whole reverse chronological order makes sense, since it is also how IMDb organizes their movies. To see examples of the format I prefer in use, see SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series (although some boxes were emptied and my computer crapped out before I could fix them) for a gun page and Jeffrey Dean Morgan for an example of an actor page. - Gunmaster45

I vote on Sample numbah 2 as well. I also agree with John that we should fill the empty spaces.-Oliveira 22:51, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I pretty much agree with what we've been doing (box style and dates going in reverse chronological order, not like on the Steyr AUG page). But as for filling in every column, I do think the "Note" column should only be used if the weapon has been modified from its factory-standard appearance or is distinctive in some way (i.e. pointing out that an M16A1 is fitted with an A2's hand guards, or describing a finish that is different from factory black or whatever else is standard). -MT2008

"WE" as in you and some others ;) I don't like Reverse Chrono for the reasons I've stated. I noticed that NOT doing reverse Chrono is not even listed as an option. MoviePropMaster2008 02:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I made this post before we talked more about this on the forum and I even realized that there was any dissent. :) But yes, if anyone DOES disagree with reverse-chronological order, please do mention it here. This is the place to make your voice heard (one of the places, anyway...) -MT2008

Okay so we will wait for the others to state their opinion and then it will be a done deal. After we standardize this format we can move forward with this project. John has done some actor pages already and we will incorporate the layout he has made with any other mods that come from this. Sample #2 is fine and a reverse chronological order on both the guns and actor pages. -Phoenixent

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 '''The new template as created by PhoenixEnt'''
-{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="0" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
-|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Used by'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''While Playing'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''In the movie'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date of film'''
-|-
-| [[Laurence Fishburne]] || Jimmy Jump ||[[King of New York]]||1990
-|}
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 :All layouts now 950 width so once info is put in the columns it will all look the same size.-[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
+===Film===
 {| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="0" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
 |-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Title'''
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Notation'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Date'''
+|-
+| [[King of New York]] || [[Laurence Fishburne]] || Jimmy Jump ||  Satin Nickel ||1990
 |-
-| [[Laurence Fishburne]] || Jimmy Jump || [[King of New York]] || Satin Nickel ||1990
 |}
@@ Line 42: / Line 33: @@
 {| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="0" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
 |-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Notation'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Air Date'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
 |-
-|  [[Joe Flanigan]] || Lt. Col. John Sheppard || [[Stargate Atlantis]]   || || 2004 - 2009
+| [[Stargate Atlantis]]   || [[Joe Flanigan]] || Lt. Col. John Sheppard ||   || 2004 - 2009
 |-
 |}
@@ Line 55: / Line 46: @@
 {| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="0" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
 |-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
 |-
-|  Nadie || [[El Cazador de la Bruja]] || || 2007 -
+|  [[El Cazador de la Bruja]] || Nadie ||  || 2007 -
 |-
-|  Several Characters || [[Black Lagoon]] || || 2006
+|  [[Black Lagoon]] || Several Characters ||  || 2006
 |-
 |  Kai Miyagusuku || [[Blood+]] || || 2005 - 2006
@@ Line 69: / Line 60: @@
+Sample #1
+{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="0" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
+|-
+| [[El Cazador de la Bruja]] || Nadie ||  || 2007 -
+|- bgcolor="#D0E7FF"
+|colspan="4"|
+|-
+| [[Black Lagoon]] || Several Characters ||  || 2006
+|- bgcolor="#D0E7FF"
+|colspan="4"|
+|-
+| [[Blood+]] || Kai Miyagusuku ||  || 2005 - 2006
+|- bgcolor="#D0E7FF"
+|colspan="4"|
+|}
+Sample #2
 {| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
 |-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
 |-
-|  Nadie || [[El Cazador de la Bruja]] || || 2007 -
+|  [[El Cazador de la Bruja]] || Nadie || || 2007 -
 |-
-|  Several Characters || [[Black Lagoon]] || || 2006
+|  [[Black Lagoon]] ||Several Characters ||  || 2006
 |-
-|  Kai Miyagusuku || [[Blood+]] || || 2005 - 2006
+|  [[Blood+]] ||Kai Miyagusuku ||  || 2005 - 2006
 |-
 |}
+Sample #3
 {| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="0" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
 |-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
 |-
-|  Nadie || [[El Cazador de la Bruja]] || || 2007 -
+|  [[El Cazador de la Bruja]] ||Nadie ||  || 2007 -
 |-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
-|  Several Characters || [[Black Lagoon]] || || 2006
+|  [[Black Lagoon]] ||Several Characters ||  || 2006
 |-
-|  Kai Miyagusuku || [[Blood+]] || || 2005 - 2006
+|  [[Blood+]] ||Kai Miyagusuku ||  || 2005 - 2006
 |-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
 |}
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 {| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="0" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
 |-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Title'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Mods'''
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Referred As'''
-!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Passwords'''
+!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
 !align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
 |-
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-And if it's a television show it should be "In the Television Show"
-And if it's a Video Game it should be "In the Video Game"
+::I prefer sample #1. #1 looks really professional and organized.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
-And the same applies to the "Date of Film/Television Show/ Video Game".
+Thanks that is one for #1 and one for #2. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
-What do you guys think?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
+==Sorting==
-:Actually, we could just say "Title", and that would work just as well. Other than that, I think the columns as MPM has named them work best. Of course, the first two columns would simply be excised from any video game page. Remember, we want it to be as simple and easy to standardize as possible. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
+Part of the reason I like the idea of tables is that I think it will encourage us to SORT movies on gun/actor pages, which is a much better and more organized way of doing things. I think we should arrange all tables by the date of the movie/TV show/video game/whatever, and then by title. Though maybe titles would be simpler, but what do you guys think? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
-::I wanted the templates to be more specific. The two columns would be exercised from video game pages though which is why this template isn't perfect. I still think the more specific version is better.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
-:::I dunno, I just don't see much advantage to being so specific. Whereas I worry that some users will ignore the format if they try making new pages (it sounds unbelievable, I know, but people really can be lazy when it comes to following page conventions - look how many people I've had to tell to either use gun page links on their movie pages, or not put the gun page links in the heading). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
+: I would sort by date as you can see when the weapon came in to use and on the actors page the weapons used over their career from beginning to end. The many thing is to get to a standard as soon as possible so we don't have pages done then have to redo them. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
-:Users ignoring page formats is always worrying. I like being specific. I always specific in my life. The template being specific makes it look more professional.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
-::I'll be sure to give this a try next time I make a gun page. I'm not a huge fan of change though, but this definately looks more professional than before. Oh, and looking at how to do this, I think I'll have to copy and paste from this page, because I can't remember all that greek. There isn't anyway this could be turned into an actual template, is there? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
-:::I think there is but i'm not sure.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
-: I added the set up for TV, Anime and Video Games. I think the a notes column needs to be added but I am not sure were to place it. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
-::Mods? I don't get it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
-:::Mods are modification or upgrades used during the game play or unlocked during the game. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
-::::Oh, you mean like in the case of MGS4, cheats?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
-: More like 1911 changing to a hi-cap 1911 as in Godfather.-[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
-::Like upgrades then? I'm sorry but i'm being annoying aren't i?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
-::: Exactly like an upgrade, No problem on the questions it all new to this layout. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
-::Thank you for not thinking that i am annoying. I can see how being specific can complicate things however.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
+==Narrowing Down==
+As I've made clear, I really like the box column style template (sample #2), so my vote of course goes to that. You have to fill in every column with something though or else the columns have holes in them that look bad. So if an actor is unknown put "Unknown" in and if there are no notes, put "None" in that column. I think the whole reverse chronological order makes sense, since it is also how IMDb organizes their movies. To see examples of the format I prefer in use, see [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series]] (although some boxes were emptied and my computer crapped out before I could fix them) for a gun page and [[Jeffrey Dean Morgan]] for an example of an actor page. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
+:I vote on Sample numbah 2 as well. I also agree with John that we should fill the empty spaces.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:51, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
-::::OK, I think I like the way this is shaping up a bit better. The only thing I would recommend is that we widen the "Note" column a bit more. For instance, on the Calico page, the "Note" column would say "as the M1-L1 Triple Pulse rifle" for the movie ''[[Deep Rising]]''. As the column is now, it would be a bit too narrow to fit that text in. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
+::I pretty much agree with what we've been doing (box style and dates going in reverse chronological order, not like on the [[Steyr AUG]] page). But as for filling in every column, I do think the "Note" column should only be used if the weapon has been modified from its factory-standard appearance or is distinctive in some way (i.e. pointing out that an M16A1 is fitted with an A2's hand guards, or describing a finish that is different from factory black or whatever else is standard). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
-::What is Satin Nickel?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:21, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
-::: Satin Nickel is a finish of nickel that is dulled by bead blasting the metal prior to having the item nickel plated. Makes it look like stainless steel but wit a white/yellow tint. The SP89/MP5K on [[Speed]] were satin nickel so are some Colt MKIV Series 70 pistols.-[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
+:::"WE" as in you and some others ;)  I don't like Reverse Chrono for the reasons I've stated.  I noticed that NOT doing reverse Chrono is not even listed as an option.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
-::::Thanks Steve, good info as usual. :)
+::::I made this post before we talked more about this on the forum and I even realized that there was any dissent. :)  But yes, if anyone DOES disagree with reverse-chronological order, please do mention it here. This is the place to make your voice heard (one of the places, anyway...) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
-::::Now,here is a visual comparison for those folks don't know what a finish is.
-::::Here is a Satin Nickel Finished pistol
-::::[[Image:NickelM1911A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Satin Nickel M1911]]
-::::Here is a Brushed Stainless pistol
-::::[[Image:SpringfieldM1911SS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Brushed Stainless M1911]]
-::::They don't look all that different.  The Stainless Steel finish is MUCH more durable and will last much longer.
-::::Here is a bright nickel finish (and the most difficult to PHOTOGRAPH)  it's almost like photographing into a mirror....
-::::[[Image:M1911A1-AutoOrdChrome PF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bright Nickel Auto Ord M1911]]
-::::Here is a bright stainless finish (and the 2nd most difficult to PHOTOGRAPH)  I had to pick my Model 66 since it was really the only bright Stainless handgun I had, the so called bright Stainless semiautos were only semi bright.  I consider a a gun to have a bright finish when I can clearly see my own reflection in the gun.
-::::[[Image:Smith-&-Wesson-Model-66.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bright Stainless S&W Model 66]]
-::::MPM
+:Okay so we will wait for the others to state their opinion and then it will be a done deal. After we standardize this format we can move forward with this project. John has done some actor pages already and we will incorporate the layout he has made with any other mods that come from this. Sample #2 is fine and a reverse chronological order on both the guns and actor pages. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
-:Jesus, Satin guns are really ugly. They are really cheap looking. Anyway, i think the templates should be more specific. Like the ones in the [[Daewoo K3]] Page. Instead of Satin Nickel it should be the "The Gun was painted with Satin Nickel.".-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
-::Now you're getting annoying ;)  No one PAINTS a gun with satin nickel. Satin nickel is an accepted finish, like bright nickel, stainless steel, parkerized, blued, matte blued, etc.   And the opinion that a gun is ugly simply because it has a satin nickel finish is purely in the eye of the beholder MPM
-:::Oh, i didn't now that. Then what is called the act of making giving a gun a finish? I just find then cheap looking. That's all.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
-==Sorting==
-Part of the reason I like the idea of tables is that I think it will encourage us to SORT movies on gun/actor pages, which is a much better and more organized way of doing things. I think we should arrange all tables by the date of the movie/TV show/video game/whatever, and then by title. Though maybe titles would be simpler, but what do you guys think? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
-: I would sort by date as you can see when the weapon came in to use and on the actors page the weapons used over their career from beginning to end. The many thing is to get to a standard as soon as possible so we don't have pages done then have to redo them. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

IMFDB talk:Test Template Page: Difference between revisions

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The New Template

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Television

Anime

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Sorting

Narrowing Down

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